McCain on Juan Hernandez: I’ll be happy to look into it
posted at 2:47 pm on June 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Yeah, funny thing: He was actually confronted once before about Juan Hernandez, at a campaign stop in Florida, and promised to look into the good doctor’s musings about illegal immigration then, too. “I have no idea but I will check in to the information you’ve given me,” he told the questioner, after giving him a paint-by-numbers Hagee-ish defense about how the people associated with the campaign support McCain’s ideas and not vice versa. Sounds like he either hasn’t gotten around to checking yet or that promise was just another statement on immigration during the primaries that we weren’t really supposed to take seriously, because here’s what he told Matt Lewis today:
MATT LEWIS: Can I ask you about Juan Hernandez, not so much about Townhall where I write, but a lot of conservative bloggers have a lot to say about him… You never know what is accurate, but from what I read he has some very controversial things to say…about Mexico first, about essentially having a completely open border….Are we getting misinformation? or What is the disconnect there? Why are you taking advice from someone if he has made these outlandish comments?
SEN. McCAIN: First of all, I take advice from many many people. I don’t always agree with that advice. I’m not sure that if he has a view, that he and I are in disagreement about..which I’m sure he does… I know very few people in this country, or in this world, that I agree with everything on… There’s a difference between disagreement, if we have disagreement, and things that American’s just find not acceptable…..
MATT LEWIS: …Couldn’t you make that argument for Rev. Wright or….?
SEN. McCAIN: I would be glad to examine any statement from any supporter of mine…I don’t even know if he is quote or what he has specifically…I’ll be glad to look at it… I’ll be glad to look at anything anybody has said that may be offensive or wrong. But I may have disagreements with an issue with lots of people…and if we have strong enough disagreements, I will ask them to withdraw their support. And that is what has guided me….and that is all I have to say about it.
Good enough. You can revisit some of Hernandez’s greatest hits here; my personal favorite is his fond hope that even seventh-generation descendants of illegals in America will think “Mexico first.” Are we to understand from the boldface part that if McCain’s made aware of stuff like this and still refuses to dump Hernandez that he simply doesn’t disagree all that strongly with the sentiment?
Follow the link to Lewis and see how Maverick fielded a question from Quin Hillyer about some of the more repulsive rhetoric he’s used over the years to demonize his opponents on immigration. Yes, it’s true, there’s no record of him ever using the actual words “Jim Crow”; watch this clip and see if you think it matters. May 25, 2006:
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Umm…’taking’ advice is exactly the same as agreeing with it. You can, however, ‘receive’ advice that you disagree with.
James on June 4, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Sounds like we’ll get a Obamaspin stating that focusing on Juan Hernandez is a “distraction”. Farked, we are. Doncha know.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 4, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Stubborn maverick. Period. He did NOT “get the message” from those of us in favor of a secure border and a strong immigration policy. This issue is going to make many conservative heads explode.
cannonball on June 4, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Now is not the time to force conservative positions on our candidate.
The General has started and Mac needs to veer to the center, even more. If we can split off Latinos from the Democratic Plantation, we have the presidency.
Mac is doing everything he needs to do to win. To force this issue right now would be a major strategic blunder.
JayHaw Phrenzie on June 4, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Regardless of any scenario envisioned, the next four years are going to be a severe pain in the @$$.
EHeavenlyGads on June 4, 2008 at 2:54 PM
Check out Glenn Beck’s interview of Michelle on this topic. Hernandez is an open borders zealot.
cannonball on June 4, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Slublog on June 4, 2008 at 2:56 PM
This is not forcing him into any position. All we’re asking is that he stop taking advice from an extremist.
(Fixed)
Slublog on June 4, 2008 at 2:56 PM
What’s the over/under for the number of times “Juan”, “McShamnesty”, “I’ll never vote for him!”, and “He’s a traitor!” are used in the following comments?
amerpundit on June 4, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Hope and pray for a strong, strong VP(conservative) for Mcdouche.
Did I say strong?
m0nkeyb0y on June 4, 2008 at 2:57 PM
That’s right guys. Let’s do the mountain out of the molehill thing, God knows Obama needs all the help he can get.
Terrye on June 4, 2008 at 2:58 PM
The days of throwing us SoCons a bone are over.
McCain, if he does not know who the he** is on his staff or one of his advisors, especially since those of us who read this site regularly have known since the beginning of time Juanny Boy advises him, should admit he hasn’t a clue who’s telling him what.
In other words… the puppet masters are hard at work dancing the GOP nominee in front of the crowd.
madmonkphotog on June 4, 2008 at 2:59 PM
I mean after all, Tancredo was such a hit with the general public, let’s make him VP. Or maybe J.D. Hayworth. Or someone else who will settle for nothing less than land mines at the border. Time to froth at the mouth and call the man for having the temerity to {gasp} actually have a civil conversation with the wrong sort of person.
Terrye on June 4, 2008 at 3:00 PM
That’s right. Lets make sure we never hold our leaders accountable. God knows McCain can only win if we never question him.
apollyonbob on June 4, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Hmm who to pick…
Mccain
or
Obama
The choices are endless.
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Terrye on June 4, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Ayers is a molehill? Wright a molehill? Hm, okay, you convinced me.
Spirit of 1776 on June 4, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Newsflash: if “protecting the border” is high on your wish list, you WILL vote for McCain. If you’re a Latino you MAY not vote for McCain. His goal is to increase the number of people who vote for him.
freevillage on June 4, 2008 at 3:02 PM
apoll:
I am not saying McCain is not accountable. But I think this is just a tad hystrionic and hysterical. Every freaking time the subject of immigration comes up the hardliners are just poised for yet another of their hissy fits.
Terrye on June 4, 2008 at 3:02 PM
McCain’s innate stubbornness makes it look like he is trying to dance on the head of a pin. He probably did not know what Hernandez’ positions were, but damned if some reporter is going to make him throw the guy out of his campaign!
Theworldisnotenough on June 4, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Could someone explain what over/under means? I assume it’s a betting or market term, but I’ve led a sheltered life. Getting more unsheltered all the time.
Janna on June 4, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Spirit:
This is not about Ayers or Wright.
Terrye on June 4, 2008 at 3:03 PM
I know that the Hernandez connection drives some mad — they keep referring to it, again and again — but I’d say the time has come to put that issue aside. Temporarily.
Considering the hideous damage Obama (or, as Ted Kennedy called him, “Osama Obama”) is poised to wreak, McCain’s unacceptable attitudes re amnesty are pretty small potatoes.
My guess is that McCain is enough of a realist to know that he’s playing a bad hand for Republicans with his open-borders posturing, and if he is reminded that those who put him in the presidency will withdraw their support unless he gives it up, he’ll put that aside and get real about enforcing the laws of the land.
Obama, on the other hand, will continue his empty-headed kowtowing to the principles of Marx, Castro, Wright and their ilk unabated. What we think will have no effect in the face of uncritical support from koolaid-drinkers.
So the rantings of Rash Limbaugh and the snarkiness of Levin, Malkin et. al. can only harm whatever chances we may have of seeing our country survive. Theory is wonderful, but at a certain point it’s necessary to be realistic. That point should not be postponed until it’s too late.
Losing while sticking up for principles is still losing.
Worse, in this case, losing means allowing some truly destructive forces within and without our borders to have their way with the nation.
MrScribbler on June 4, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Not so funny thing, I’m having the same problem with my local politicians over illegals.
Regardless of who gets to be POTUS, we’re all doomed.
moonsbreath on June 4, 2008 at 3:05 PM
It IS a parallel. If you dismiss one (Mac’s) you must dismiss the other. JH is a chosen member of Mac’s campaign team. The left can’t have a field day with it because it fits their own agenda, but if Ayers and Wright are real reasons not to vote Obama, JH is the same with Mac.
Spirit of 1776 on June 4, 2008 at 3:06 PM
“Juan”, “McShamnesty”, “I’ll never vote for him!”,
bill30097 on June 4, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Well, I don’t see histronics. I see McCain said he’d look into something, and he obviously didn’t. This is a follow up. AP said his response was “Good enough.” Now what we need is another follow up to make sure he’s actually looking into it. That’s not hysterical. Juan Hernandez was talking about the elimination of our border. This isn’t a guy we want to have McCain’s ear on immigration. I mean, if you’re talking about some of the commenters, you could find histronics and hysterics, but that’s not going to give Obama support.
apollyonbob on June 4, 2008 at 3:07 PM
McCain is a liar- Exhibit Z.
Valiant on June 4, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Not everyone is a hardliner.
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Groundhog Day, the movie.
JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 3:10 PM
McCain is not open border. The fact that he has not refused to have anything to do with this person does not mean he is not open border. Not so long ago in an effort to put someone truly and really strong on this issue there were people supporting some guy named Buddy something or other against Lindsay Graham. Turned out the guy had ties to the KKK. Now, most people who are strong on the issue of border security are patriots who only want to protect our sovereignty. However, there are people who are something else and entirely and some of those people have been known to talk to people like Tancredo.
Right now, we need to remember that Obama is not exactly strong on this issue. And Democrats in general are not strong on this issue and try to keep some Republicans in power.
Terrye on June 4, 2008 at 3:10 PM
So are you the opposite of a liberal olbermann? Good lord, is Conservative Blogs hindering or helping… make up your damned liberal minds already!
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:11 PM
upinak:
I am not saying everyone is a hardliner, I am saying that maybe now is not the time to make a big issue of this.
Terrye on June 4, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Haha! Not refused = campaign advisor.
Awesome, you can’t make this stuff up! Oh, wait I guess you can…
Spirit of 1776 on June 4, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Who are you? And what have you done with Jay?
Jaibones on June 4, 2008 at 3:13 PM
I should have said that the fact that he {McCain} has not refused to have anything to do with this person does not mean IS open border…or something. I hate this subject. It always gets me bothered. I can’t even type. To hell with it.
Terrye on June 4, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Also, point of information about being a “hardliner” - I think that we should continue to have millions of legal immigrants, and I think we should aim for zero illegal immigrants.
I’m asking that we enforce the law to ensure that we know who is coming into our country - if that is the hardline, supporting the rule of law, our country is in a bad place.
To me, our Congress simultaneously trying to pass amnesty while trying to pass rules making it tougher for legal immigrants is the most asinine thing I have ever heard. No wonder Congress has lower approval than the President.
apollyonbob on June 4, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Spirit:
I did screw up no doubt, but one thing is true. I am not going to do anything that might help Obama win. Obama will give drivers licenses to illegals, he will provide nationalized medicine to them. Anyone who claims this is a major issue to them and refuses to support McCain is a hypocrite or a fool. That is just how I feel.
Terrye on June 4, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Juan Hernandez is a slimey weasel. For that alone McCain should sever him from his campaign. It’s an image problem.
On amnesty McCain should never get a break. However, don’t throw away the entire baby. The alternative is devastating.
Entelechy on June 4, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Did it ever occur to anyone that reporters might try to use something like this to help their man Obama? They might try to make an issue of Hernandez just because they know it offers them a way to divide the GOP.
Terrye on June 4, 2008 at 3:17 PM
I asked Juan Hernandez about his funding and here’s his reply: ‘Yes, my friend…I’m paid by Georgie-Porgie Soros who also has dual citizenship, altho his first country is much further ’south’ than Meheeko, and alot hotter, my friend.’
I wonder…could make him drop Hernanadez like we got Obama to drop Trinity Church? I ain’t holding my breath; John was tortured by the N. Vietnamese so I doubt that the conservative base could make him tell Juan to take a hike-as if he wouldn’t use him anyway. I don’t trust McAmnesty on more than 2 issues; as for the rest of the issues that matter, he might as well be a Democrap, giving away the country to the lowest bidder.
Christine on June 4, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Terrye, people on here are what I call Rocks. They don’t want to move, they can’t see the future, they sit there and pout.
I am a fiscal conservative.. I like to make my sadistic views on how to make a penny scream interesting. I am quite conservative on some thing, but others I am not. I do not know ANYONE (which includes on here) who can all agree about being a conservative all the way.
Now, what they don’t want to grasp or swallow, is the fact we have McCain. Like it or not, McCain IS the only thing we have. And now they are grasping at VP straws, not to say there are some people I hope he doesn’t choose for VP, but VP doesn’t DO much.
Now these wonderful rocks, who are good people (and I love reading them here in this blog on other issues and such), don’t want to vote, which I think is a waste. I hope they all have the common sense to gather up and at least vote for McCain and not sit home. Or we WILL have Obama… and I wouldn’t doubt the next coming of Christ if Obama is elected, and God help us all if that happens.
Just my opinion…
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Forrest McGump
EJDolbow on June 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Oh, boy. Here come the McCain-deranged.
A) It’s obvious Hernandez (yes, he’s a tool) doesn’t play a major role in the campaign if McCain doesn’t even know much about him.
B) McCain is right…Lots of people give him advice, and he doesn’t agree with it all.
C) McCain is not “pro-amnesty” in the way many seem to think.
Cripes, Mitt Romney actually had an amnesty plan, not McCain.
McCain makes it clear, even in the quotes above…he’ll do what the American people want. I see no reason to think he’ll do otherwise.
JetBoy on June 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Well, I don’t think McCain shares Hernandez’s views, but I think this is a fine time to bring up an issue with McCain in order to remind him of what the people he is supposed to represent want.
Like you said, Obama is way crazy left on this issue, so I don’t think it weakens McCain to push him more conservative on it.
As for dividing the GOP, I don’t think that can be done anymore than it is already. Some GOPers hate McCain. I don’t think these McCain haters can be told anything that will change their position on the candidate.
I’m gonna vote for McCain regardless, because no matter how left his views are, they are to the right of Obama.
apollyonbob on June 4, 2008 at 3:20 PM
It’s: “I wonder, could” WE “make him drop Hernandez”…Duh.
Christine on June 4, 2008 at 3:20 PM
And I really do not think McCain is open border. I think he believes that we will have to find a way to deal with all the people who are here, but I don’t think he wants open borders with Mexico. I think this is a straw man.
Terrye on June 4, 2008 at 3:20 PM
McCain may claim to not be an open borders advocate, its just that every single solitary action he takes is in the direction of wide open borders and giant uncontrollable influxes of non US citizens. Every action he takes is an attempt to reward those breaking our immigration laws and punish those who are attempting to do nothing more then to enforce the laws already on the books.
See the problem McCain has is he doesn’t agree with our immigration laws while the citizens of the United States do agree with them and want them to be enforced. Therefore he cannot succeed at changing immigration law by legal/constitutional avenues. Therefore his only solution is to tell the American people he agrees with them, and tell them that he got the message. Meanwhile our laws continue to go unenforced as he creeps closer and closer to the White House. And once he gets to the WH all his empty rhetoric will be swept back under the rug in exchange for “comprehensive immigration reform” a.k.a. Amnesty and open borders.
Zetterson on June 4, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Can we have a do-over?
JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 3:20 PM
It makes his reticence to take on Obama’s association with Hate-monger Wright make more sense.
“It’s completely believable that Obama had no idea what Wright believed. Why, I had no idea what Hernandez believed!”
its vintage duh on June 4, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Yeah, we’ve been over this ground. It’s a feeling issue for you; I’ll leave you to them.
But the real hypocracy is people who would excuse Hernandez and condemn Ayers and Wright. McCain needs to pitch these guy to the road. Let me rephrase: he needs to set aside his arrogance and pitch this guy to the curb.
Spirit of 1776 on June 4, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Yeah, don’t we all wish!
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM
McCain himself said a few months back that the people don’t believe the gov’t when the politicians say they will close the border first.
Somehow, he doesn’t think that includes him. Frankly, he’s numero uno.
JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM
McCain is a liar and a fraud and that is so obvious for anybody willing to open their eyes and see it.
Zetterson on June 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Precisely! That why he needs to do some action to show he’s believable. This is a perfectly easy and appropriate way to do so.
Spirit of 1776 on June 4, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Its F’ing Orwellian. I can’t believe otherwise smart people fall for this garbage.
Zetterson on June 4, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Then are you going to vote for Mr 57 State Obama?
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:24 PM
That’s right… this is about a destroy-American sovereignty racist IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!
Good Lord, if McCain can’t even show the same “strength” that Obama displayed in distancing himself from radicals…
dominigan on June 4, 2008 at 3:25 PM
I don’t fall for it, I just bend over and take it.
JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 3:27 PM
It’s like that saying… “The beatings will continue until moral improves!”
dominigan on June 4, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Sorry is you don’t like it, but McCain is an advocate of Amnesty. He’s put it before Congress before, and has already said that “comprehensive reform” will be at the top of his agenda in 2009.
And this is a deal breaker with me. He will not get my vote because of it.
Whine all ya want, but many of us warned of this happening… that Conservatives would NOT back McCain because of some of his stances… and we would not vote for the lesser of two evils…
/will get accused of giving Obama the Presidency in 3….2….
Romeo13 on June 4, 2008 at 3:28 PM
I’m with you.
JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Meeechelle, Meechele, get over it!
epluribusunum on June 4, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Another Obamanite…
what were the odds of that? They are worse then Paulians.
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:29 PM
LOL
JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 3:29 PM
…”I see no reason to think he’ll do otherwise.”
JetBoy on June 4, 2008 at 3:19 PM
The image of the 3 monkeys comes to mind. There’s no proof that you’ve been listening, otherwise you would understand that this is nothing but double-talk. It’s obvious that you haven’t been seeing things clearly, because your Polly Anna POV offers no ‘utterances’ based in reality.
Maybe you’re traveling too fast to get a good focus…
Christine on June 4, 2008 at 3:31 PM
What’s the difference between being open borders and being pro-amnesty, thus providing a very strong incentive for people to ignore our borders and come here illegally?
He doesn’t want to “deal with” the criminals that are here, he wants to give them amnesty and access to the welfare state. I don’t suppose all you pro-amnesty folks have noticed that enforcement is working. Illegals are deporting themselves.
What’s the difference between McCain’s plan to fix the global warming hoax and Bambi’s?
What’s the difference between McCain’s plan to punish “obscene profits” and Bambi’s?
misterpeasea on June 4, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Absolutely not. What conceivable reason would I have for doing that? Understand, I live in MA. It is a state that will not be going Red in my lifetime. My vote is meaningless in a state by state election process such as the one we have. Therefore, my vote is nothing more then symbolic. I will use my vote as a means of expressing my outrage at the state of the Republican party and the inexcuseable leftward turn it has taken. I have not decided who I am going to write in yet. All’s I know is it will not be McCain or Obama. The Republican party stands for nothing, therefore I need to stand for something.
Zetterson on June 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM
McCain doesn’t want to appear with Pres. Bush because it will offend some potential voters, but has no problem with being associated with an open borders zealot. The president’s approval ratings are indeed low, but the country is also soundly against open borders. So why is he meeting with La Raza and listening to Hernandez? It doesn’t make since from a political standpoint. Illegals aren’t supposed to vote and Hispanics who are citizens seem divided on the subject. Where is the benefit in this association?
Rose on June 4, 2008 at 3:33 PM
I’ve voted for every Republican candidate since I was old enough to vote starting with Gerald Ford. The only time I missed voting for the Republican candidate was the year that California mysteriously failed to file my registration after I’d moved here. However, I decided months ago I’m not voting for McCain. He’s not a conservative, and, in my opinion, he’s a Democrat in drag. The Democrats are saying that if McCain is elected it will be the third George Bush term; I wish McCain would be that good. On seemingly every front (immigration, campaign finance reform, housing prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, etc.) McCain is opposed to conservatives.
I’m of the opinion that if the country elects a Democrat that the Republicans will know that they need to oppose the president. It is my opinion that any liberal position that McCain decides to advance the Republicans in congress will go along with further decimating conservative political gains made since Reagan. Because of this I believe that McCain is more dangerous to conservatives than electing a Democrat.
I will not be voting for a Democrat but I will be voting for a conservative and that is why I’m not voting for McCain.
Some will say I’m throwing away my vote and enabling a Democrat to win. Possibly, but in my opinion, unlikely; regardless of who the Democrats eventually put on the ticket that’s who will get California’s electoral votes.
I would encourage every conservative in a “blue” state to vote for a real conservative and send a message to the RNC!
I might even be persuaded to encourage conservatives in every state to vote for a conservative.
clarsen13
PS I’ve never voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger either. Both times I written in the name of conservative.
clarsen13 on June 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Interesting. You hate McCain so much you would rather write in something. Why do I have this Ron Paulian imgage that comes to mind.
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Which is exactly what you will be doing.
MrScribbler on June 4, 2008 at 3:38 PM
He’s a stubborn man unwilling to listen to opposing points of view. He has come to this open borders mindset one of two ways: 1). Pure stupidity 2). Corruption.
I’m almost hoping that corruption is the reason.
Oh, and he doesn’t give a crap what Conservatives think. He just wants those sweet disgruntled Hillary voters. Yayyy!
Zetterson on June 4, 2008 at 3:39 PM
I received a request for donation from the McCain campaign over the weekend. I wrote a two page letter of the all the problems with the Republican party and McCain - Juan Hernandez was one of the big ones as I wrote that McCain’s “I got the message” statement means nothing as long as he has Juan on his team and pays visits to LaRaza. Why then would we trust anything else he says, including his so called commitment to make the tax cuts permanent.
I sent the letter back in their pre-paid envelope along with some more McCain pesos.
Jiobaobubai on June 4, 2008 at 3:40 PM
The point is that there is no difference on immigration between Obama and McCain. Some of you will say ‘oh yes, there is a HUGE difference’. But they both want all illegals in this country to become citizens with all the benefits that citizenship comes with (that taxpayers have to pay).
Some people believe McCain will secure the border. He never has, he’s never much cared. But because McCain isn’t Obama, it means that he must be honest.
It isn’t hatred for McCain that causes people like myself to not vote for him. It’s that there is zero difference between McCain and Obama on anything but the Iraq War. The Iraq War costs me a lot of money. If we pull out, we save money.
I don’t ‘fear’ an Obama presidency any more than I ‘fear’ a McCain presidency. I guess the problem is that if you aren’t ‘afraid’ of Obama, you must just ‘hate’ McCain.
It doesn’t make a hill of beans difference who is president. The government only does harm. Both of these guys want the government to have more control over America. They are both scary - EQUALLY scary. And they both lie.
I expect Obama to join the Nation of Islam at some point in the next 10 years. He’ll probably take Farakhan’s place after his presidency. America has utterly lost its way and nothing shows it more than the two candidates from the 18% approval rating senate that we have to choose from.
ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 3:40 PM
We know what you meant. The problem is, this guy isnt some vague supporter. He’s on McCain’s STAFF. He’s McCain’s Hispanic Outreach Director! Hello???
Leave the disinformation tactics (and accusations that anyone who criticizes McCain is an Obama supporter or hates the troops or any of your usual slander/libel) to the Democraps. A good number of us are vets and do support the troops and are not Obama supporters and live close enough to the border to know what the hell we’re talking about.
Shay on June 4, 2008 at 3:40 PM
We have no one to blame but ourselves.
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:42 PM
To me, the central issue is this: we have defeated attempts to declare amnesty over the past few years — Jorge Bush wanted it, too, you know — and I believe we can do it again with McCain in office.
Conversely, Obama and his congressional fellow travelers will do what they want, without the slightest concern about our wishes and beliefs.
Is there ANY issue in which Obama would not not be ten times more destructive than McCain? I can’t think of one.
MrScribbler on June 4, 2008 at 3:43 PM
That’s what I found to be the most interesting quote. Trouble is, I’m not sure what he meant.
Like, who is “we?”
And, who are the “Americans?”
BigD on June 4, 2008 at 3:43 PM
I know what you mean; defending the indefensible can be so damn frustrating sometimes. That’s why I never bother.
FloatingRock on June 4, 2008 at 3:43 PM
I am not a Ron Paul supporter. He is an even larger lunatic than McCain.
What I don’t like is a candidate who blatantly lies in order to get elected. Trust is a huge factor in my decision making process. McCain has lied through his yellow teeth to me so many times about so many important aspects of this illegal immigration issue there is no way I will be shelling my vote out for him. Especailly a vote so uninfluential as my own.
Zetterson on June 4, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Then tell me who hasn’t lied? No one I know.
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:47 PM
We have no one to blame but those who, over the years, have whitnessed our politicians betraying us yet still happily cast votes for them. It will only get worse if we continue down that path.
Zetterson on June 4, 2008 at 3:48 PM
It’s entirely possible—they gave us McCain, didn’t they? How could they have been any more divisive than that?
I can’t think of anything.
FloatingRock on June 4, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Then perhaps we should actually start holding them accountable? No?
Zetterson on June 4, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Sorry, but as much as the two parties WISH it was that way, it legaly is not.
A candidate must EARN my vote… and I will vote FOR somthing, not like last election where I voted against somthing.
I got news, Obama, campaign rhetoric not withstanding, will NOT pull our troops out of Iraq. He will NOT pull the plug on a win that he can take credit for…
So, Green agenda? border? Economy? Energy? just where is the difference between McCain and Obama on these issues?
Romeo13 on June 4, 2008 at 3:51 PM
I am old and young enough to actually laugh at that remark!
You forget there Zet… it is people like you and I, and Allah and Ed.. and everyone ON HA which includes the liberals, who has at one time voted for someone who has SCREWED over their State, County, and the People of the United States. We have only to BLAME ourselves… not Everyone BUT OURSELVES!
I am not one to say it was OTHERS. Nope because I can say, yep I voted for the jerk and now I won’t do it again.
No one is perfect… PERIOD. And until you figure that out, you will NEVER be happy with anything. People, your government, your life, etc.
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Exactly Romeo. There seem to be people here who are in denial. If you have a candidate who excites nobody, low turnout is inevitable. If you have a candidate who is impressive that will drive excitement and turnout will be high.
Whats that saying about putting lipstick on a pig? Good luck with that project fellas.
Zetterson on June 4, 2008 at 3:54 PM
You must be an awesome job interviewer. Can I work for you? Well that depends… Are you breathing? Yes I breath. Great your hired.
Why scrutinize? What are decisions made of anyways?
Zetterson on June 4, 2008 at 3:57 PM
This coming from someone who lives in Mass and complains about it. I have one thing to say to you:
If you don’t like it: MOVE!
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:57 PM
A difference is that Republicans in Congress are more likely to oppose Bambi on all those things than McCain.
Another difference is that letting Bambi and the Dems take the blame for those things is more likely to more quickly lead to a Republican majority in Congress than letting McCain and Republicans take the blame.
MCCAIN ‘08: OIL PROFITS ARE ‘OBSCENE,’ BEER PROFITS ARE JUST DANDY!
misterpeasea on June 4, 2008 at 3:57 PM
On a separate note, looking at the HotAir headlines, John Hood’s article is pretty good and it’s nice to see that someone at National Review has gotten their adrenaline under control.
BigD on June 4, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Move… Move… you don’t freaking like where you live, your area, the taxes, the people, the politicians, the life style…
Move!
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 3:58 PM
JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 3:58 PM
You McCain-bots throw the word “hate” around as much as the liberals when they are losing an argument.
Move along then, no correlation there.
Valiant on June 4, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Exactly…. but eventualy you are supposed to learn from your mistakes…
But the two parties do not wish to acknowledge that.
The latest Farm Bill just showed both their cluelessness, and arrogance. They will not listen, and they do not learn… so they must be replaced by those who can.
McCain is part of the problem, not the solution.
Romeo13 on June 4, 2008 at 4:00 PM
don’t forget deranged and hysterical.
JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I agree with you on a lot of issues, but when it comes to McCain, I think you like him too much to be unbiased. Republicans are probably going to end up trusting him on most issues, but this isn’t one where he has much credit.
It’s a simple question, one he already dodged once. If Hernandez matters so little, McCain should have dropped him when he was first brought to his attention.
Now is the only time we could ever possibly force conservative positions on our candidate. Once elected, he’s got no reason to care.
Esthier on June 4, 2008 at 4:01 PM
I am not saying he is perfect by ANY stretch of the imagination.
But what is it we have besides him? And a bunch of grumpy old men who think a throw away vote is going to do anything?
NADA!
And I agree with you on the fact the 2 patries are not aknowledging it either.
But as I said… we the people vote these ignorant fools up there and we are to blame. I would rather just take the smaller of the two/three evils.
upinak on June 4, 2008 at 4:04 PM
And so, my friend, are the consequences (of both !)
stenwin77 on June 4, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Wow, wow, wow, what an inspiring public speaker he is. Isn’t he. YAWN !!! Yup, he’s gonna look great next to that young whipper snapper Barry.
stenwin77 on June 4, 2008 at 4:05 PM
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