Bob Barr to put Georgia, North Carolina in play for Obama?
posted at 9:01 pm on June 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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All part of his daring master plan to make his name as widely reviled among the right as Ralph Nader’s is among the left.
Polls in Georgia and North Carolina over the last two weeks show Mr. Barr winning 8 percent and 6 percent respectively of the presidential vote, and in both cases helping keep likely Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama within striking distance of Mr. McCain in those states — which, taken together, account for more electoral votes than Florida, Pennsylvania or Ohio…
[InsiderAdvantage pollster Matt] Towery said North Carolina and Georgia are exactly the places that Mr. Barr could put in play: both have high African-American populations that Mr. Obama can tap to boost his turnout numbers, and have conservative-leaning voters whose dissatisfaction with President Bush could lead them to a third-party candidate.
The Georgia poll, taken just before Mr. Barr secured the Libertarian nomination, gave Mr. McCain 45 percent support, Mr. Obama 35 percent and Mr. Barr 8 percent. In North Carolina a Public Policy Polling survey released Monday found Mr. McCain at 43 percent, Mr. Obama at 40 percent and Mr. Barr at 6 percent. The poll’s authors said Mr. Barr’s support appeared to come particularly from independents who previously had broken for Mr. McCain.
I can understand a third-party run if, like Perot, you command a minority so sizable — 20 or 25 percent, say — that the party simply has to address some of its concerns, if not in this election then in the next. A five percent minority doesn’t do that. You can make up that amount elsewhere by doing a better job of mobilizing your base or pandering a bit to other constituencies at the margins. If you’re going to strike at the establishment, in other words, you’d better do it hard enough that the reaction is fear, not anger. How do you think libertarians will be received if this tool hands us President Obama? Exit question: On which issues, precisely, do Barr and Ron Paul propose to compromise with the 95% of Republicans who aren’t voting for them? They’re each trying to bring the GOP around to more libertarian positions, Barr by spoiling McCain’s chances and Paul by trying to work within the party for now and land a role at the convention. Surely they understand that there’ll be some give and take involved in reaching an accommodation with more centrist/hawkish conservatives. Yet Paul’s philosophy, in which every last position is presented as the one and only acceptable constitutional solution, makes that impossible. You have to do exactly what he wants, because that’s what the Constitution wants and there can be no compromise where the supreme law of the land is concerned. So how does this play out? If the GOP decides, sure, let’s give the gold standard a second look, what does America’s Greatest Patriot give back?
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After Mccain picks Huckabee as his VP nominee..I will gladly vote for him and campaign for him.
SaintOlaf on June 4, 2008 at 10:24 PM
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/12/the-bob-barr-candidacy/
http://www.vdare.com/epstein/080519_barr.htm
there ya go
funky chicken on June 4, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Why does Bob Barr want Barack Obama to be president?
Nobody with an eduction over grade three thinks Barr could actually win.
EJDolbow on June 4, 2008 at 10:27 PM
It better be more like 1,000 to 1 or this country is in deep shit.
I’ve seen what Obama’s pal Deval has done in the short time he’s been in office and he’s hamstrung by a system that keeps the Governor’s Office weak by design….Even the Moonbats are wondering how they got so badly suckered. Obama is the same guy, with the same team, using the same speeches who’ll have plenty of power and plenty of allies in congress and be dealing with real consequential issues. God help us all….
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 10:28 PM
He is still their Boy.
MB4 on June 4, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Because he got thrown out of office and has a hair across his ass now since he doesn;t get invited on the talk shows any more. Nothing more sad than a washed up has-been still trying to prove he isn’t.
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 10:30 PM
The UIA, Maliki’s party (he isn’t elected directly, Iraq has a Parliamentary system), was so broad. It consisted of like 5 parties in one.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 10:30 PM
It would still be correct logic.
MB4 on June 4, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Sure if you’re living in fantasy land.
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Whatever.
(Rolls eyes)
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Well the only way McCain will care enough about Americans to campaign hard for their vote is if they speak Spanish. I don’t expect McCain to care what I think. I expect Bob Barr will. I’d support Barr over McCain. Barr was a Republican, but the Republican party left him.
McCain won’t win anyway. This will just make it even more of a landslide. I don’t think McCain will win NC. I don’t think he’ll care. I don’t think he’ll do anything but criticize the NC GOP to solidify his claim as ‘maverick’. But hey, we’re all mavericks now.
ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Well on th optimistic side, maybe he will bring out some conservative voters that would have stayed home otherwise and they may help out down the ticket. Isolationist conservatives have a place in the Republican party too; so we should cut them some slack just like pro-choice Republicans who also have a place. If you throw too many people out to make your party perfect, you become perfectly unelectable.
KW64 on June 4, 2008 at 10:34 PM
It’s really sad that some otherwise seemingly sane people need to have this explained to them.
It’s going to be a long 5 months.
wise_man on June 4, 2008 at 10:34 PM
LOL @ troll ThackerAgency
wise_man on June 4, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Ya, they left him by voting him out of office 2-1.
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 10:37 PM
That’s pretty weak and too obviously
masturbationselfcongratulatory. Try to do better.MB4 on June 4, 2008 at 10:37 PM
wise_man on June 4, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Maybe you could explain to me why so many Hillary supporters are now supporting McCain. I guess through some magical potion McCain is suddenly similar to Clinton. So . . . a vote for McCain is a vote for Clinton. . . how’s that for logic.
I don’t particularly care who the president is. I won’t vote for McCain, I won’t vote for Obama. . . I probably won’t vote at all. Does that mean it is a vote for Obama? If I vote for McCain does that mean a vote for Hillary? Maybe McCain could put Hillary on the ticket. That would GUARANTEE McCain would win. Wouldn’t you all just love that?
ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Unlike Pat Buchanan, Bob Barr left the GOP some years before running for President on a third party’s nomination. I will be highly annoyed if his candidacy leads to Sen. Obama winning, but if Americans are inclined to vote for Mr. Barr it is their right. Bob Barr no longer owes anything to the GOP. It’s not like he bolted out of pure spite to take up with a party he’s never seen fit to affiliate with before. If he’s a genuine Libertarian then his only concern is building that party.
Dr. Paul is another matter. He’s chosen to continue playing within the GOP, but he’s made it clear he won’t support our nominee. That’s wrong. He competed fair and square and was not selected by anywhere near enough Republican voters to win. He should honor those results.
Jill1066 on June 4, 2008 at 10:38 PM
I’m just hoping that it’s people just lashing out against McCain. Eventually they’ll realize that handing the election to Obama isn’t going to solve anything…I hope.
He used to seem like a decent guy. I just hope he enjoys his socialism. And appeasement.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Women scorned. Not too difficult to figure out.
wise_man on June 4, 2008 at 10:39 PM
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Oh look at the brilliant retort! You struck out the word masturbation. How clever of you. You are always provide such witty and insightful posts. What would HA be like with out you?
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 10:40 PM
If he really believes this then I feel sorry for him. If he’s saying things just to read others reactions for amusement … then that’s an accurate description of the post.
wise_man on June 4, 2008 at 10:41 PM
So you all would support a McCain/Hillary ticket then. If it’s win at all costs to get Obama out, that’s the easiest way to do it.
ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 10:41 PM
You’re so silly.
MB4 on June 4, 2008 at 10:42 PM
That explains a lot. You don’t care about the direction of the War on Terror. You don’t care about America turning to socialism. Why didn’t you just say so?
—————-
For all the people who are fuming about McCain + Illegal Immigration (I include myself in that group)…
If you think McCain’s amnesty plan is bad…wait till you see Obama’s.
Voting for Barr isn’t going to solve anything. It will just give us President Obama. And you know what comes with that.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 10:43 PM
wise man, I don’t particularly care what people think of me. I say what I believe ALL THE TIME. Malan, I am NOT a decent guy. I am a mean person who picks his vote without regard to the two party oligarchy in command.
But there is definitely no need to feel sorry for me Mr. ‘wise’ man. Continue supporting McCain, but you won’t be able to cry when socialism is ushered in on your prized R party.
ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 10:43 PM
C’mon. Go troll someplace else.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM
(didn’t see your upper comment before)
Some conservatives favor the ’scotched earth’ policy of a disastrous Obama presidency that would be needed to bring about a better conservative in 2012. Democrats like to joke that McCain would be a third Bush term. More likely, a Obama presidency will be a lot like Jimmy Carter’s second term.
Again, for the people who actually hope that the US goes through 4 or 8 years of Obama and who he picks for his cabinet, what he and the democrats do to all of us …. I really feel sorry for them.
wise_man on June 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM
During the primary season, Huckabee had more hits to his web site than Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, and Fred Thompson. http://www.MikeHuckabee.com was far and away the most-hit Web site on the political campaign.
Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM
I refuse to vote out of fear. There are plenty of conservatives out there that don’t have to pretend. They don’t have to pander. McCain isn’t one of them. He’s as socialist as any of them. He’s been in DC so long he actually believes that DC is the solution to everybody’s problems. Just give them more money and control and they’ll ‘fix’ everything.
Every senator thinks they’d make a good president. They rarely do.
ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 10:45 PM
It’s really, really simple. They know what Obama is. Don’t believe me. Go to WTKKs website starting at 8pm est and listen to Michelle McVee’s show. Michelle is a former NY and Boston crime reporter and represents typical working-class white Democrats. Listen live. Listen to the working-class democrats calling in….It’s not that they are supporting McCain as much as it is they are trying to stop Obama. Of coarse, these people have also been living under Deval Patrick, Obama’s clone, so they’ve seen this show before….
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 10:45 PM
LOL again. Wow. This is tiresome.
wise_man on June 4, 2008 at 10:45 PM
We can survive four years of McCain trying to push through his liberal agenda. At least we’ll be safe. But we won’t be able to survive four years of Obama. THAT is the difference.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 10:45 PM
You sound just like ‘madison conservative’. Are you two related?
wise_man on June 4, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Jill,
“but if Americans are inclined to vote for Mr. Barr it is their right.”
Of course it’s their right, no one disputes that. It’s just stupid to do so in an election that, unless their desire is to damage the country. (Ostensibly, I suppose, in the hope that it will be like tempering steel. In other cases it’s just being childish.)
exhelodrvr on June 4, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Wow, what a philanthropic guy. You care so much about the mentally ill HALF OF THE COUNTRY that are probably going to vote for Obama. What are you so afraid of? Don’t you have enough faith in our country, its people, and its constitution to know that one person does not have all that much power?
What do you think will happen with Obama as president? Do you think we are all going to die? He’s just going to tax the crap out of everybody, business are going to move off shore, and then he’s going to be gone. I don’t fear the president.
ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Now you seem to be feeling sorry for yourself. I can tell.
MB4 on June 4, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Problem is, Obama can do lasting damage in four years. let’s look at just the Supreme Court. The next President should have 1 – 2 vacancies to fill. Now there’s talk Obama will promise the first slot to …..HILLARY!
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Even worse. America’s enemies were fairly weak during Carter’s term. They’re stronger now. And Obama is still just as weak as the peanut farmer.
And, mysteriously, 97% of the hits to mikehuckabee.com were from one IP address. A man who calls himself “Red Pill” visited the Huckabee home page over 1 billion times. Crazy.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 10:50 PM
You people believe that Americans who vote for Obama want to damage the country. Why do we even have a democracy? Obama will likely get 75 million votes in the general election. If we have 75 million Americans who want to damage the country, we are in bad shape.
We are free to vote. You can vote for the socialist McCain. Others will vote for the socialist Obama. I’ll likely vote for the conservative Barr, but I haven’t decided yet. I’ll probably not vote for any of them.
ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 10:50 PM
How can you blame us ;ibertarian Republicans for supporting Bob Barr/Wayne Root? What has McCain offered us? Has he even botthered to contact anyone in the libertarian movement? Cato? Reason? Republican Liberty Caucus even?
Has he surrounded himself with libertarian policy aides?
At least Giuliani and Romney made efforts to reach out to us libertarian Republicans. McCain has done zip. So, most of us are going with Barr.
Eric Dondero, Publisher
Libertarian Republican blog
ericdondero on June 4, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Doomsday thoughts aren’t inappropriate anymore. The technology to create one has greatly increased: nuclear and biological. The world is more global and anyone can cause mayhem anywhere. We didn’t use to have to consider what religious lunatics in Pakistan thought. Global warming or no, we face an abrupt decline in species due to human overpopulation. We may not find the resulting ecosystems to our liking. And then there are computers to monitor us like in 1984. And there is nano-tech and the ways it could go wrong. And then there is the issue of soil erosion and food–too little dirt leads to starvation and from there to irrationality. And I could go on.
Cheers!
thuja on June 4, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Exceedingly weak. You must try to do better.
MB4 on June 4, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Is that really the best you can do? You disappoint me.
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 10:53 PM
You all should know that a great many Libertarian Party members may in fact vote for libertarian-leaning Republicans for downticket races.
Take Tom McClintock for Congress in California. You can bet that 90% of all registered Libertarians in McClintock’s District will vote for him. I doubt seriously if the Libertarian Party of California will even run a candidate against him, since he’s a longtime friend of the LP.
Ditto for Jeff Flake in Arizona, and other libertarian Republican Congressional candidates.
ericdondero on June 4, 2008 at 10:53 PM
LOL that VDARE and Michelle Malkin sure are shills for McCain, huh?
LOL “no spin.” heh
funky chicken on June 4, 2008 at 10:53 PM
It was McCain who flirted with taking the Veep spot on the Kerry ticket.
It was McCain who was in talks with Daschle/Reid to switch parties.
It was and is McCain who trashes conservatives every chance he gets.
It’s McCain who wants 20 million aliens to become legal voters for the democrat party.
He will not drill in ANWR. He’s pushing Cap and Trade carbon tax plan with Lieberman.
McCain is all about McCain.
I’m sick and tired of finding his knife in my back every other day.
He won’t get my vote. A vote for McCain is a vote of approval. I do not approve.
roninacreage on June 4, 2008 at 10:54 PM
The silver lining is that instead of sitting home, conservatives will turn out to vote for Barr or Baldwin and the important races down-ticket.
No one has to eat a turd sandwich on election day.
Valiant on June 4, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Exactly. I am ambivalent toward Tom Friedman but there is one observation he made after 9/11 that I think is insightful. We are living in the age of the super-empowered individual. Today, small groups can obtain the power once available only to States.
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 10:55 PM
The Question : ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 10:48 PM
The Answer: TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 10:50 PM
wise_man on June 4, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Go
troll
somewhere
else.
He’ll also be able to establish “universal health care”. Just think of the size of one giant government bureaucracy to handle every American’s health care. It’d be huge. England’s National Health Service is the world’s 4th largest employer. Wrap your head around that. 1.5 million people. All working for the gov’t. Handling YOUR health care. Standing in line at the DMV sucks, right? Imagine standing in line at the DMV…to get a check up. And then dealing with the incompetent gov’t buearucrat when you finally get to the top. Please, don’t allow Obama to win this election. Don’t allow him to do this to the American people. Don’t vote for Bob Barr.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Don’t get your hopes up.
MB4 on June 4, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Yes he will.
My biggest fear however is that he will make good on his promise to visit all our enemies. And, like when Kennedy met with Khrushchev, they will think the new American President very weak and they will act on that perception.
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Your vote is your responsibility and no one elses. The results of your vote are also your responsibility. You hold McCain’s votes against him but don’t want to take responsibility for your own. You sound like a liberal here MB4, how unlike you.
And I never said “that people must vote for someone that others tell them to vote for.” I said that people who love their country should prize the security of that country above their own pride. I said that we are at war and there there is only one candidate fit to win it.
You seem to like quotes a lot, so I have one here for you:
I hope you don’t consider him un-American too.
29Victor on June 4, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Dude. Have you researched McCain’s positions? He wants to privatize social security, opposed the ethanol subisdy, voted against the transportation porkfest bills, etc.
Does the Patriot Act really bother you so much that you would vote for Bob Barr? Bob Barr?
The man is a laughingstock in his home state. Honestly.
funky chicken on June 4, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Please explain to me why anybody in favor of strong national defense should vote for Barr. He has fought conservatives every step of the way in the War on Terror. It just doesn’t make any sense.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 11:00 PM
A vote for McCain is a vote for McCain.
A non-vote for McCain (along with others in significant numbers as to tip the election in favor of the other candidate because the vote was that close) is a vote ‘for’ Obama.
Sorry. It’s the truth.
Think ‘horton hears a who.’
wise_man on June 4, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Ditto.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 11:01 PM
And I hate to have to tell people to vote for McCain, as he hasn’t been a friend of conservatives. But to not vote for him, is to vote for Obama…something I can’t respect one bit.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 11:03 PM
My clone army will deliver my response shortly.
…and MB4 is not a troll.
29Victor on June 4, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Life is full of disappointments, like Juan McVain. You’ll get over it, probably.
MB4 on June 4, 2008 at 11:05 PM
That guy was around when voting was a privilege. Now it is a right. Your vote is essentially meaningless unless you vote to reduce the size of government. Anyone you vote for will choose to spend your money without your consent. You consented to giving them your checkbook when you voted for them.
I’d be more enthusiastic about voting if they went back to allowing only property owners to vote. But if my vote counts the same as the illiterate wino down the street, American democracy is no model for anyone to follow.
ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 11:05 PM
I wish a real conservative had gotten more votes. I blame members of my own party as well as the crappy structure that led us to this. They let me down. I am very resentful that a few states get to pick the nominee because they get to vote first. This is really crappy. However, if a real conservative did a better job at campaigning, and made better decisions and showed better at the debates, we wouldn’t have gotten this stinker McCain.
wise_man on June 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Exactly. Chances are he’ll only serve one term and much of that time he’ll be bitterly opposed by the Democrats even if they agree with him (because that’s simply how they play the game). I can easily live with McCain for 4 years and chances are nothing much will permanently change. The same can’t be said for Obama and his bride.
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 11:08 PM
You mean like wanting to close guantanamo, indicting our intelligence community for ‘torture’, treating enemy combatants as though they have constitutional rights of American citizens? Here’s another one. . . leaving the southern border open so that anyone wishing us harm could just come right in. . . and we wouldn’t allow local governments to do anything about it.
Wait a minute. . . that wasn’t Barr, that was MCCAIN!
ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 11:08 PM
No, I think the hits came from this volunteer army.
Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Sounds a bit like Philly in 1787. God bless the Republic!
Limerick on June 4, 2008 at 11:08 PM
I have the same response for this pudgy worthless geezer that I did for Thompson the sleepwalker. Barr is the gaseous gas-bag to end all gaseous gas-bags. He lost his bid for re-election to the House long before the rest of the Republicrats lost their asses.
The Libertarian Party has become a resting home for retarded misfit post-Republicans like Puchannon and the like. I don’t think Barr will even get third string Republican basher on CNN behind David Gergen and JC Watts when Blitzer has a “bi-partisan” panel discussion.
I hope the fifteen people who vote for him have a few extra spoonfulls of cough syrrup before they go to bed on election night.
revolution on June 4, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Thacker,
“You people believe that Americans who vote for Obama want to damage the country”
Yes – in fact I have seen that statement made a number of times by posters at CQ and elsewhere during the primaries while the Republican nominee was still undecideed. It was specifically stated that if John McCain was nominated for the Republicans, so-and-sos supporters would not vote for him, thinking that a Clinton presidency would damage the country enough to make it come to it’s senses, and then vote in a “true conservative” at the next election.
exhelodrvr on June 4, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Who wants to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan? Oh, that’s right–Barr does.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Thats funny, neither do conservatives.
If a dog sh*ts on the carpet, you dont give him a treat. If a Republican tries to legalize an invasion of your country, you dont vote for him.
I’ll vote Barr, Ron Paul, Humpty Dumpy, etc…whomever.
The more you guys hold your nose & vote, the more you’ll have to hold your nose & vote.
Knock it off! You’re hurting your country with this slow march to socialism.
DwnSouthJukin on June 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM
McCain said he’d have troops home by the end of his first 4 year term. Survey says . . . EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM
ThackerAgency on June 4, 2008 at 11:05 PM
I too eagerly await the arrival of our oligarchic overloards.
But seriously…
I’m sorry that you think that your vote doesn’t matter, but yours is the mindset that got Clinton into office. “Protest voting” for Perot proved that American’s votes still do matter.
You may not want to take responsibility for your vote, you may choose to believe that it doesn’t matter who’s in office, you may want to pout about the state of democracy in America, you may prefer to curse the darkness rather than light a frikin candle, but you can’t get away from the fact that the one time that you have a chance to actually effect America’s future, you choose to forfeit it. The one chance you have to do something to stem, or at least slow, the onslaught of oppressive government you choose to beat your fist on the wall and complain about your sore knuckles.
29Victor on June 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM
I certainly hope he’d have some US troops out of Iraq. The ultimate goal is to get the Iraqis to handle their own security.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Forgive us for not wanting to join your suicide pact and have it happen over night by doing something stupid like voting for misfit 3rd party candidates than couldn’t even get elected county commissioner never mind POTUS.
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 11:26 PM
I see your point. Obama’s quick jump right into socialism is much better. Like ripping of a Band-Aid.
29Victor on June 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM
No, it’s more like slicing your own throat because you have a slow growing cancer that may kill you in 10 years….
TheBigOldDog on June 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Hard to believe that we are weighing the relative merits of John McCain and Bob Barr.
This is how Clinton happened. I had lots of friends just like Thacker back in 1992.
“Bush said ‘Read My Lips’ then he screwed us!” they wailed, “We’re voting for Perot!” .
The result was Bill Clinton for eight years, then Bush Junior for eight.
People who think if they just stop voting Republican that the Party will move to the Right either aren’t very bright or are pathologically narcissistic.
SlimyBill on June 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM
It’s like bleeding some brake fluid from your teenage son’s car so if he drinks and drives that night, he’ll get in a REALLY bad accident, and learn his lesson.
SlimyBill on June 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Don’t be ridiculous, Allah. All McCain has to do is put out ads with that picture of Bobby Barr-Sinister, with the fairy glasses and the look of general stupidity, and he won’t get 12 votes in Georgia.
Jaibones on June 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Or Horton Hatches an Egg
“I meant what I said, and I said what I meant.
An elephant is faithful, 100 percent.”
funky chicken on June 4, 2008 at 11:38 PM
I dunno, he does make pretty good beer.
BTW, I didn’t say that you were un-American, I said that what you said was un-American.
MB4 on June 4, 2008 at 11:39 PM
All the GOP learns by losing elections to democrats is that the voting public has shifted left, and the only way to win elections is to shift left with them.
funky chicken on June 4, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Best
Metaphor
Evah.
malan89 on June 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
TheBigOldDog & SlimyBill
Quit improving on my simile!
29Victor on June 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Thanks for cleaing that one up :).
29Victor on June 4, 2008 at 11:47 PM
“cleaing” = “clearing.”
I guess that means that it’s bedtime for 29Victor.
29Victor on June 4, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Barr’s got my vote.
The GOP needs to learn a lesson.
Give me Obama. After all, Jimmy Carter gave us Ronald Reagan.
Ludwig on June 4, 2008 at 11:53 PM
I do. Iraq at least. Let the Sunnis and Shiites fight it out. Not sure about Afghanistan.
MB4 on June 4, 2008 at 11:53 PM
As long as conservatives hammer the idea that Barr does damage in those locations hard enough, his candidacy there will be rapidly diminished until he’s less Nader 2000, more Nader 2004.
Typhonsentra on June 4, 2008 at 11:53 PM
I’m seriously thinking of voting for Barr. McCain sucking up to Hillary and Obama while he bashes Bush and his own party is becoming to much for me. His open borders stand and his support for this tax hiking climate change nonsense tells me he still doesn’t get it. Last night he said that the election will turn on independents and democrats. He made it pretty clear that he doesn’t need me.
Dollayo on June 4, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Yes. History may not repeat but at least it often rhymes and we can’t go on being enablers for atrocious behavior on the part of cranky old “Republican” coots or that is all we will ever get and probably worse.
MB4 on June 4, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Barr may in fact influence this election, but I would think it would have to be minimal. I will be honest and admit that I do not know much about Barr. If he has the same defensive, isolationist foreign policy as Ron Paul, no thanks. We will not defeat our enemies by sitting on our ass at home. I will not buy the argument that destroying this despicable enemy is not the right thing to do. Jihad is no joke, so get your head out of the sand. The Patriot Act, and staying on offense has allowed us to confront our enemies while not being attacked on the homeland. That is a fact whether you like it or not. If the Libetarians do not want to vote for McCain… don’t. I am not the biggest McCain fan, but I have decided to hold my nose and vote McCain. A vote for Barr may seem like the principled thing to do, but do not complain about Obama and his new Socialist agenda when it arrives on your doorstep. Talk about big government. This is not a suprise. After Rudy body slammed Paul for his asenine blame America first rhetoric, I had a feeling Republicans and Libetarians may have to begin to part ways. I am all for small government, but that must include a strong military. I am a peace through strength type of guy. The war on terror is my top issue. We all get one vote so make it count. My question for the Barr supporters. Did Barr do anything to stop the Bush Administration and Congress from spending so much money? Maybe I just missed him speaking out. Maybe he should have stood on his head until he passed out from all the blood rushing to his head. Maybe then someone would have noticed him.
chief on June 4, 2008 at 11:59 PM
I told you this site was crawling with Libertarians..
Sure we got stuck with a horrible nominee, but I say vote for the Mccain/Huckabee ticket,after all….Mccain IS extremely old.
SaintOlaf on June 5, 2008 at 12:03 AM
I’m convinced you and Red Pill are the same person.
malan89 on June 5, 2008 at 12:04 AM
It’s much more like pumping out most of the gas from the T-Bird so that little Juan can’t drive it all the way down to Mexico, running over all sorts of Gringos on the way, and run it off a cliff.
MB4 on June 5, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Here is what Mike Reagan thinks of the “Jimmy Carter gave us Ronald Reagan” argument.
A highlight:
29Victor on June 5, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Do over!
It’s much more like pumping out most of the gas from the T-Bird so that
littlecrazy old coot Juan can’t drive it all the way down to Mexico, running over all sorts of Gringos on the way, and run it off a cliff.MB4 on June 5, 2008 at 12:11 AM
MB4 on June 5, 2008 at 12:09 AM
I thought I told you people to back off of my simile! But, MB4, I appreciate the fact that you didn’t try to improve upon it.
29Victor on June 5, 2008 at 12:13 AM
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