Pastor expiration date? Pfleger gets suspended

posted at 6:35 pm on June 3, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Apparently the Chicago diocese has had enough of Michael Pfleger, at least for now. The cardinal has suspended the controversial priest who called America the “greatest sin against God”, and who mocked Hillary Clinton from the pulpit last week:

CBS 2 News has learned that Francis Cardinal George is temporarily removing Father Michael Pfleger from his position as pastor of St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church on Chicago’s South Side.

CBS 2 Chief Correspondent Jay Levine reports the move comes after several days of deliberation and consultation by the Cardinal, who first learned about Pfleger’s racially charged comments about Sen. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton from the pulpit of Trinity Unity Church of Christ last Thursday night.

The Cardinal immediately contacted Pfleger who agreed not to refer to the presidential candidates by name, but as CBS 2 reported at the time, there remained the possibility of some further disciplinary action against Pfleger.

The Catholic Church, as it turns out, doesn’t care to have its priests making themselves into national stories by endorsing presidential candidates. Nor do they need an association with Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, with its racially-charged demagoguery. Francis Cardinal George may have been late to the party with Pfleger, but at least he finally arrived. Pfleger has been allowed to conduct his brand of lunacy for far too long as a member of the Catholic clergy.

Cardinal George has selected someone to take over the pastoral duties at St. Sabina, at least temporarily. I suggest they send him back to the seminary to discover why this is so incorrect:

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Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Chudi on June 3, 2008 at 5:31 PM

Finally.

inviolet on June 3, 2008 at 5:32 PM

Heh. Had to be done.

Entelechy on June 3, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Good decision, but took too long to make it.

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 5:35 PM

This is great news. Pfleger hijacked this parish and has held it hostage (not that many of the parishioners weren’t more than happy to go along with him) for years. He needed to go for all kinds of internal Church reasons (obedience issues, heresy, liturgical abuse) but George felt he couldn’t (or better, shouldn’t) act. Now the opportunity has come to get rid of Pfleger for external reasons and it’s great to see that this opportunity was seized. The down side risk has been (one hopes, and I think Cdl. George calculates) reduced from schism to political party factionalism. His removal can be attributed to politics rather than theology and maybe that will keep some of his flock within the Church.

boko fittleworth on June 3, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Anyone still think he was set-up so Obama could quit the church due to a white? Man, they’s some evil b****es out there.

laelaps on June 3, 2008 at 5:44 PM

His removal can be attributed to politics rather than theology and maybe that will keep some of his flock within the Church.

boko fittleworth on June 3, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Is the flock at St. Sabina similar to the flock at TUCC?

a capella on June 3, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Anyone still think he was set-up so Obama could quit the church due to a white? Man, they

12thman on June 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Thank you, Jesus!

Pfleger’s “dramatization” for the congregation of TUCC screams out about the bigotry of lowered expectations.

thegreatbeast on June 3, 2008 at 5:49 PM

laelaps on June 3, 2008 at 5:44 PM

I believe it.

But it doesn’t erase Obama’s 20 year history with Wright, Obama’s praise of Wright in his books and on his web site (until they scrubbed Wright from it), Obama’s nunaced references to Wright being his “inspiration”:

But my journey is part of a larger journey – one shared by all who

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 5:52 PM

12thman on June 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Rush promoted the theory today. I didn’t buy it either until I read that Pfleger was told his “drama” wasn’t going to be filmed.

laelaps on June 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM

…..busted!

Don’t mess with the Church!

pseudonominus on June 3, 2008 at 5:59 PM

laelaps on June 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM

If that were true, it would indicate that Obama thinks the push-back is of racial origin. Which misses the point, it’s Anti-Americanism that I think most people find so disturbing. If Obama et al did plan it that way, I don’t think it would have much effect.

Spirit of 1776 on June 3, 2008 at 6:05 PM

I just heard Hume report on that and I yelled at the TV with a good loud “HAH!”

Good!

Connie on June 3, 2008 at 6:11 PM

laelaps on June 3, 2008 at 5:44 PM

No.

Connie on June 3, 2008 at 6:13 PM

What a tool. What a douche.

wccawa on June 3, 2008 at 6:14 PM

What’s to bet that eventually Pfleger leaves the Catholic faith and joins up as the new pastor of Trinity?

JetBoy on June 3, 2008 at 6:15 PM

If that were true, it would indicate that Obama thinks the push-back is of racial origin. Which misses the point, it

laelaps on June 3, 2008 at 6:18 PM

laelaps on June 3, 2008 at 6:18 PM

If it were true, it’s a miscalculation. People see this as a reinforcement of bad associations. Ayers, Rezo, these guys have no racial angle to play so adding a 3rd non-racial outrage isn’t worth the risk to marginalize any supposed racial component.

Spirit of 1776 on June 3, 2008 at 6:25 PM

What

12thman on June 3, 2008 at 6:29 PM

laelaps on June 3, 2008 at 6:18 PM

I don’t think Obama’s resignation had anything to do with the taping of Ffleger, although considering what is being preached in that church, I could see whoever sets up the video recorder deciding to use the opportunity to prove there are white clergy who preach the same thing their beloved Wright does (so in other words, Wright is right).

However, we’ll probably never know and it doesn’t matter one wit. Ffleger has wanted to start his own “church” for some time. Cardinal George’s hesitancy probably had more to do with not wanting Ffleger to take off with loyal parishioners. But whatever. If Cardinal George is using this opportunity to reflect on whether or not to let him go permanently, then maybe the next thing we’ll hear is that Ffleger leaves of his own volition and starts his own church in someone’s garage or a storefront.

Connie on June 3, 2008 at 6:31 PM

He’s on ice, ice, baby

Sekhmet on June 3, 2008 at 6:38 PM

I

JetBoy on June 3, 2008 at 6:38 PM

He’ll be back.

Ugly on June 3, 2008 at 6:38 PM

Catholic priests have a longer period of training than any other denomination. No wonder Pfleger’s cheap demagoguery is such an embarrassment.

In Pfleger’s case he should be sent to a Cistercian monastery for a decade or so to learn the virtues of keeping one’s mouth shut and to reflect on his own sins.

Pax americana on June 3, 2008 at 6:39 PM

Apparently, Pfleger was told he could go full animal roar with no fear of it turning up on YouTube.

This is the most laughable part of the entire episode. Both as Pfleger tries to use it to excuse his actions and as conspiracy theorists try to use it as a blues clue to the Truth.

God is always recording. For a minister of any sort to say that he changes his message from the pulpit based on the status of the churche’s AV equipment proves a complete disregard (or worse, non-belief) in an omnicient and omnipresent God.

12thman on June 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM

It’s hard to imagine anything good will ever come from that guy. Might as well just de-frock him and be done with it.

Blacklake on June 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM

heh

12thman on June 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM

Check out this idiotic commentary from the Chicago Sun Times:

Cardinal George, keep Father Pfleger

Buy Danish on June 3, 2008 at 6:43 PM

suspended. lol.
good. Maybe the people in the Catholic Church, the ones who ACTually follow Jesus’ teachings will TEACH Him what it actually is to spread the word.
imagine that.

bridgetown on June 3, 2008 at 6:44 PM

The Catholic church wouldn’t be doing this if Pfleger wasn’t black.

Infidoll on June 3, 2008 at 6:45 PM

It’s hard to imagine anything good will ever come from that guy. Might as well just de-frock him and be done with it.

Blacklake on June 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM

Yep Yep

Wade on June 3, 2008 at 6:48 PM

Any bets he leaves ST. Sabinas, resigns from the Catholic Church and becaome a pastor at Trinity UCC?

mghirsch on June 3, 2008 at 6:48 PM

What in hell is a Catholic priest doing in a United Church of Christ anyway?

Isn’t that like a Imam preaching in a synagogue?

I guess the only prerequisite for preaching in a UcoC, is you have to hate whitey.

TheSitRep on June 3, 2008 at 6:48 PM

God is always recording.
12thman on June 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM

Connie on June 3, 2008 at 6:49 PM

C-ya, beoooootch!

omnipotent on June 3, 2008 at 6:50 PM

Any bets that he’ll resign from the Catholic Church, leave St. Sabina’s and become a Pastor at Trinity UCC?

mghirsch on June 3, 2008 at 6:50 PM

Next stop? Rehab?

SpencerFan on June 3, 2008 at 6:50 PM

Nino Brown.

Yeah, he’ll pass out some turkeys on Thanksgiving. Doesn’t mean he isn’t the problem.

VolMagic on June 3, 2008 at 6:51 PM

Between the the child molesters and the hate-mongering crackpots, something is seriously wrong with the personnel policies of the Catholic Church. But hey, at least they eventually suspend the hate-mongering crackpots.

Cicero43 on June 3, 2008 at 6:52 PM

Any bets that he’ll leave St. Sabina’s, resign from the Catholic Church and become a Pastor at Trinity UCC?

mghirsch on June 3, 2008 at 6:52 PM

Pfleger needs to be sent to live with monks who have taken a vow of silence and there he can meditate on just what his job as a priest is…and how he has failed to do it.

katieanne on June 3, 2008 at 6:54 PM

Ed, could you import the headlines when you have a chance?

Any bets that he’ll leave St. Sabina’s, resign from the Catholic Church and become a Pastor at Trinity UCC?

mghirsch on June 3, 2008 at 6:52 PM

This came up in the headlines where I put down the following offer with one taker so far…

I’ll give you 10,000:1 odds with a maturity date of, let’s say January 1, 2012.

12thman on June 3, 2008 at 6:55 PM

Duh!!!

d1carter on June 3, 2008 at 6:57 PM

Don’t worry. We haven’t heard the last of him, at least for a little while. Since he’s a lib-tard, he will play up his “vicitm” status for a few days. Maybe Jesse will come to his defense since Pfleger sits (or has sat on) the Board of the Rainbow Coalition. Eventually, he will become old news. Then we won’t see him again until McCain starts running commercials against St. Barry.

Mallard T. Drake on June 3, 2008 at 6:57 PM

His parish, his church and his city would be the poorer for it, less vibrant and less hopeful

The Sun-Times Editorial Dipshits

Ah, yes…hope. But what about change?

Jaibones on June 3, 2008 at 6:57 PM

I’ll give you 10,000:1 odds with a maturity date of, let’s say January 1, 2012.

12thman on June 3, 2008 at 6:55 PM

You’re right. His only use was that he represented the Catholic church. That’s why they tolerated his race and fake AA accent.

JiangxiDad on June 3, 2008 at 6:58 PM

His parish, his church and his city would be the poorer for it, less vibrant and less hopeful …

The Sun-Times Editorial Dipshits

Ah, yes…hope. But what about change?

Jaibones on June 3, 2008 at 6:57 PM

I’m feeling more vibrant and hopeful and I’m 1500 miles away.

JiangxiDad on June 3, 2008 at 7:00 PM

what an fool seller he is, surrounded by his products.

jimmer on June 3, 2008 at 7:03 PM

I wonder if he’ll do what guys in wrestling do when they are suspended or lose a loser’s leaves town match. Will he return to preaching under a mask and and assumed name?

GogglesPisano on June 3, 2008 at 7:03 PM

The Catholic church wouldn’t be doing this if Pfleger wasn’t black.

Infidoll on June 3, 2008 at 6:45 PM

I could be wrong, but I believe Pfleger is white.

JonRoss on June 3, 2008 at 7:06 PM

Cardinal George

peski on June 3, 2008 at 7:12 PM

Has anyone else notice the occasional paid advertisement on the side? “Pat Robertson and Al Sharpton have come together to help save the planet.” They are sitting on a couch with goofy smiles on their faces.

Publicity junkies.

shick on June 3, 2008 at 7:13 PM

The Catholic church wouldn’t be doing this if Pfleger wasn’t black.

Infidoll on June 3, 2008 at 6:45 PM

Oh, o.k., my mistake. I understand now. It has been a long day.

JonRoss on June 3, 2008 at 7:15 PM

They will all be back for Comrade Obama’s party.

tarpon on June 3, 2008 at 7:18 PM

This is ridiculous! I was watching Fox news when I saw the alert, saying that he was asked to step down, I was like, YES!! finally!!
I went to the computer to see any further stories and nothing, then found one that say he was asked to “temporarily” step down—like giving a kid a time out!!
He should be defrocked immediately!!

PS-JonRoss–you aren’t wrong, he is white, maybe he hasn’t ever looked in a mirror.

Conservatives R Us on June 3, 2008 at 7:21 PM

It is hard to imagine a Catholic priest, obsessed with so much hate, trashing our country from the pulpit of a United Church of Christ church. Even harder to imagine a first term senator spawned from this hateful environment running for leader of the free world. The dumbing of America is in it’s final stages.

volsense on June 3, 2008 at 7:21 PM

He’ll be back in a few weeks as the Nation of islam’s newest member.

Cicero43 on June 3, 2008 at 7:22 PM

I’m feeling more vibrant and hopeful and I’m 1500 miles away.

JiangxiDad on June 3, 2008 at 7:00 PM

Heh. I’m right down the road, and you can smell the hope.

Jaibones on June 3, 2008 at 7:25 PM

It is kind of funny that it took the Archdiocese this long to finally do something about Pfleger, and that it took this one incident for them to finally see just how much of a loose cannon this guy really was. He’s almost as bad of a media pig as his fellow Loudmouth In Arms, Jesse Jetstream Jackson. Pfleger has been doing idiotic nonsense like this for years, organzing marches against everything under the sun, from cigarettes to malt liquor ads, but only as long as there was a camera and a microphone in the area at the time. It’s just nice to finally see someone like Cardinal Francis George actually grow a pair and shut this guy up once and for all. Only thing left is to transfer him to some obscure mission on some atoll somewhere in the Pacific, where there are no cameras and microphones.

pilamaye on June 3, 2008 at 7:26 PM

It is hard to imagine a Catholic priest, obsessed with so much hate, trashing our country from the pulpit of a United Church of Christ church.

volsense on June 3, 2008 at 7:21 PM

Oh, come on Bro. Are you not familiar with the UCC at all? This is pretty much right up their alley. As for the Catholic Church, it is a major disappointment for me, but obviously the Cardinal wants to give him a lot of rope.

Jaibones on June 3, 2008 at 7:28 PM

Only thing left is to transfer him to some obscure mission on some atoll somewhere in the Pacific, where there are no cameras and microphones.

pilamaye on June 3, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Exactly. The new Catholic church in Jordan.

Jaibones on June 3, 2008 at 7:29 PM

Amen.

phronesis on June 3, 2008 at 7:34 PM

As someone who has lived in the Chicago are all but 3 1/2 of my almost 38 years I say AMEN to Cardinal George!
Pfleger’s been getting a free pass on his self-hating guilt trip for too long.
’bout time the Chicago Archdiosese got some balls.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 3, 2008 at 7:37 PM

Next stop? Rehab?

SpencerFan on June 3, 2008 at 6:50 PM

Haha. You know it!

Spirit of 1776 on June 3, 2008 at 7:38 PM

What in hell is a Catholic priest doing in a United Church of Christ anyway?

I was wondering the same myself.

4shoes on June 3, 2008 at 7:41 PM

His hatred will always be welcome at Trinity.

The Catholic church wouldn’t be doing this if Pfleger wasn’t black.

Infidoll on June 3, 2008 at 6:45 PM

Oh, o.k., my mistake. I understand now. It has been a long day.

JonRoss on June 3, 2008 at 7:15 PM

Actually he thinks he is black. As Juan Williams said, he was making a mockery of blacks, put a little black face on him and he would fit right in.

right2bright on June 3, 2008 at 7:51 PM

As a recovering Catholic, I’ve attended a fair number of Catholic churches in my time. A good friend in my military days was a Catholic chaplain. I’ve never heard a Catholic priest spew the venom this guy has. Not even a little venom.

And, yes, I’ve attended services at Catholic churches in inner city neighborhoods.

flipflop on June 3, 2008 at 7:53 PM

Even Trinity won’t want him…he has made them look at themselves, and the congregation will begin to realize just how bigoted they are. Trashing Hillary crossed the line, Hillary is one of “them”.

right2bright on June 3, 2008 at 7:54 PM

He’s on ice, ice, baby

PS-JonRoss–you aren’t wrong, he is white, maybe he hasn’t ever looked in a mirror.

I always wondered what came of Navin R. Johnson.

He just changed his name…

tdau1997 on June 3, 2008 at 7:56 PM

“The Cardinal immediately contacted Pfleger who agreed not to refer to the presidential candidates by name, but as CBS 2 reported at the time, there remained the possibility of some further disciplinary action against Pfleger.

Those regulations ban the preaching of partisan politics.”
CBS story

I am not Catholic because I hold these propositions to be Biblical essentials of the historic Christian faith.

But my limited perspective here is that the news media is characterizing the Cardinal’s “problem with Pfleger” to center primarily on his usage of the political candidates’ names from the pulpit.

What about Pfleger’s many deviations away from historic, orthodox Catholic theology? For example, his theology seems more in line with Marxist, liberation theology than it does with traditional Catholic teaching upheld by Rome.

What about Pfleger’s un-Catholic-like conduct in other areas of his life?

What about Pfleger forgetting his calling and allegiance to obeying Church leaders?

As a Chicagoland resident, I do not consider Pfleger to be a true Catholic priest. He has disrespected Catholic authority openly in the past.

I believe these questions of mine are a lot more relevant and more substantive than singling out Pfleger for a Sunday morning sermon where he mentioned candidate’s names from the pulpit.

Instead, the Cardinal should be focusing his main attention on the fact that a true Catholic priest has not been in the pulpit of St. Sabina’s for decades.

ColtsFan on June 3, 2008 at 8:08 PM

If they need a good priest who truly cares to help poor people, they can contact me for his address. Our good priest married us 18 years ago and he then left a wealthy parish to go to a poor parish where he felt he was needed more. And he does it without a friggin megaphone.

JAW on June 3, 2008 at 8:11 PM

Good. Now the IRS needs to get busy and revoke TUCC’s tax-exempt status — or are they somehow the only people in the country who’ve missed all the anti-Clinton, pro-Obama political speeches masquerading as “sermons” from that pulpit?

AZCoyote on June 3, 2008 at 8:31 PM

It is hard to imagine a Catholic priest, obsessed with so much hate, trashing our country from the pulpit of a United Church of Christ church.

Yup.

That happened. That and more. A lot more.

Even harder to imagine a first term senator spawned from this hateful environment running for leader of the free world.

Yup. And that same first term senator is going to be the next president. Sure looks like it.

The dumbing of America is in it’s final stages. volsense on June 3, 2008 at 7:21 PM

Depends. Depends on if he’s elected or not.

wise_man on June 3, 2008 at 8:37 PM

“I really don’t believe it was put on. I always thought she felt ‘This is mine. I’m Bill’s wife. I’m white. And this is mine. I just got to get up and step into the plate,’” he said. “And then out of nowhere came, ‘Hey, I’m Barack Obama.’ And she said, ‘Oh damn, where did you come from? I’m white. I’m entitled. There’s a black man stealing my show.’”

Pfleger then pretended to cry in a dramatization that included a handkerchief.

. . .

“I apologize for anyone who was offended and thought it to be mockery. that was neither my intent nor was it my heart,” Pfleger said Sunday

Father Pfleger, you are a liar. You mocked her and intended to mock her.

rbj on June 3, 2008 at 9:00 PM

About time. As someone noted elsewhere, he’s done some good but it apparently went to his head.

aikidoka on June 3, 2008 at 9:08 PM

Now the church is trying to hold a “brother” down…

Hog Wild on June 3, 2008 at 9:16 PM

That’s good news. Cardinal George did the right thing, and should be commended. However, just two weeks off for Fr. Pfleger to reflect, is not enough punishment for his disgraceful rant.

byteshredder on June 3, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Excellent,I hope he see’s the light!

canopfor on June 3, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Who took the video down?

The Ritz on June 3, 2008 at 11:51 PM

St. Sabina might not know what to do with a real preist, one that hopefully will preach the real gospel. Father William Vanecko also might need beefed up security as well. Man, I wouldn’t want to walk into that mess.

Irenaeus on June 4, 2008 at 3:12 AM

Don’t mess with the Church!

pseudonominus on June 3, 2008 at 5:59 PM

That’s right– look no further than Pope Gregory XI…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_IX.

leftnomore on June 4, 2008 at 3:29 AM

Don’t mess with the Church!

pseudonominus on June 3, 2008 at 5:59 PM

That’s right– look no further than Pope Gregory XI…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_IX

(Sorry- delete the last period)

leftnomore on June 4, 2008 at 3:30 AM

Cardinal George’s hesitancy probably had more to do with not wanting Ffleger to take off with loyal parishioners.

Connie on June 3, 2008 at 6:31 PM

It doesn’t seem as if there are many ‘loyal’ parishoners at St. Sabina in the first place.

Father Pfleger, you are a liar. You mocked her and intended to mock her.

rbj on June 3, 2008 at 9:00 PM

Yeah, that’s OUR job. (The difference being that we do it when and where it’s appropriate, and we aren’t representing it as a church’s sermon.)

James on June 4, 2008 at 7:53 AM

Father Phlegmon is a joke and should be made a campaign ad and include all of the stupid things he’s said over the lifetime of his relationship with the Dali-Bama. Please include all of the money which was earmarked for this guy by Barry.

moxie_neanderthal on June 4, 2008 at 8:58 AM

ISRA: Chicago Priest Calls for Murder of Gun Shop Owner

SPRINGFIELD , Ill. , May 29 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA):

Nobody expected Saturday’s Operation PUSH protest at Chuck’s Gun Shop & Range to be anything other than a circus of the bizarre. However, nobody anticipated that an address by a Chicago priest would include a call for the murder of a suburban gun shop owner and legislators who oppose gun control.

During an address at an anti-gun rally in front of Chuck’s, Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina’s Church, exhorted the crowd to “drag” shop owner, John Riggio, from his shop “like a rat” and “snuff” him.

Rev. Pfleger went on to tell the crowd that legislators that vote against gun control legislation should be “snuffed” as well. As many know, “snuff” is slang for especially violent murder.

The ISRA has a recording of Pfleger’s remarks in MP3 format.

“Certainly Fr. Pfleger has offered Absolution to a murderer or two during his tenure as a priest,” commented ISRA Executive Director, Richard Pearson. “That’s why it’s shocking to hear him actually advocate the murder of a gun shop owner who has never committed a crime in his life. He then compounds the problem by calling for the murder of legislators who disagree with his personal political views — something I suspect is a felony in this state. Pfleger’s comments were disgusting and dangerous. And, I seem to remember that the Fifth Commandment frowns on murdering one’s neighbor.”

“This week, I’ll be penning a letter to the Archbishop, expressing my concerns over Rev. Pfleger’s comments,” continued Pearson. “I would hope that the Archbishop would reply with words of comfort for Mr. Riggio, his family, state legislators, and all others who were injured by Rev. Pfleger’s thoughtless, inflammatory remarks.”

The ISRA is the state’s leading advocate of safe, lawful, and responsible firearms ownership. Since 1903, the ISRA has represented the interests of over 1.5 million law-abiding firearm Illinois firearm owners.

SOURCE Illinois State Rifle Association

link

Miss_Anthrope on June 4, 2008 at 11:31 AM

The Catholic church wouldn’t be doing this if Pfleger wasn’t black.

Infidoll on June 3, 2008 at 6:45 PM

There you go, Infidoll, fixed it for you.

TimothyJ on June 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM

Members of clergy who politicize the pulpit, for _any_ candidate or party, do so for their own short-term selfish reasons. It should be discouraged, as the divisions created by such polemic make the hard work of Jesus’ ministry more difficult for all clergy and laypersons. For example, anyone who wears the collar in Chicago will have to live with the echos of Fr. Pfleger for years to come.

A clerical calling imbues great power and authority to influence people. God help those foolish enough to waste that authority on something so trivial as a presidential election.

blueguitarbob on June 4, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Instead, the Cardinal should be focusing his main attention on the fact that a true Catholic priest has not been in the pulpit of St. Sabina’s for decades.

ColtsFan on June 3, 2008 at 8:08 PM

amen

The challenge to the reputation of Christianity through the ages has been the number of people who wear a cross but contradict Christ. It is understandable because man is a sinner, and hypocrisy is the useful sin

The difficulty is the political trick of using the title of priest or minister to transfer the credibility that Jesus rightly deserves to people who are so far from Christ they have lost track of what Jesus was saying

You need only compare Marin Luther King to Rev. Wright or Pfleger. King fought against a huge institutionalized evil, yet King did not damn America.

King knelt obstinately at the doors of injustice and they opened

Christ stood by as Pilate performed his legalities and Christ hung on the cross without cursing Rome.

In the end, Rome became Catholic. The formal switch to Catholicism was somewhat political, and faith used for political means, or as a talisman, is a mistake which for Rome created generations of political Christians who could boil other believers in oil.

Christianity must come from immersing the heart in the whole Christ, not just the useful parts

I am an admirer or Pope Benedict, who was aked before he became Pope how the pedophile priests could have done such crimes. The Pope replied that if their faith was more than a hypothetical, they could not have done such acts.

All churches, like all people, face relentless temptations to twist the Word. The Catholic Church is not more corrupt than any one man. Unfortunately, the hierachical structure which can protect and preserve the Word, can also prolong abuses. Rome is far away and Benedict has a great battle ahead.

entagor on June 4, 2008 at 11:55 AM

To Cardinal George–thank you–better late than never!

It’s true, there have been abuses elsewhere in the Catholic Church, which I won’t belabor here, but the large hierarchical structure of the Catholic Church, with its dependence on a successor of Saint Peter, does tend to weed out nut-jobs like Father Pfleger.

Reverend Wright can get away with what he says, and retire to a palatial mansion, because he belongs to a relatively small denomination of hate-filled churches, and within those circles his rhetoric is accepted, although rejected by the great majority of Christians.

But most Catholic worshippers come to church for the word, body, and blood of Jesus Christ, not radical racist politics, and “mainstream” Catholics, including those who voted for Hillary Clinton, were probably shocked by Father Pfleger’s words, and let Cardinal George hear about it.

Back in the 1980′s, a young Catholic bishop in France was preaching in favor of homosexuality, and ignored several warnings from Pope John Paul II. Since only the Pope can de-frock a bishop, but he didn’t want to face the embarrassment of admitting a mistake in ordaining him, Pope John Paul II had him transferred to an ancient diocese in Madagascar, where there are no Catholics left–the bishop effectively became a shepherd without sheep. If Cardinal George was smart, this bishop should get a new assistant priest in Father Pfleger.

Steve Z on June 4, 2008 at 4:48 PM