Fallon: Bush doesn’t want war with Iran
posted at 10:40 am on June 3, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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When Admiral William Fallon resigned his post as commander of CENTCOM and retired from the Navy, the media assumed that he had a major conflict with George Bush over Iran — and couldn’t wait for him to talk publicly. With his reputation for bluntness and nothing left to protect, journalists assumed that Fallon would unload on Bush, reveal plans for reckless war with Iran, and maybe take a few potshots at his successor, General David Petraeus. CNN had the first interview with him this morning, and indeed Fallon gave a shocking interview — but not in the way one might think:
Q&O has the transcript:
PHILLIPS: Do you feel you were pushed out?
ADM. FALLON: I think the real story here is what’s important. What was important was not me. It wasn’t some discussion about where I was with issues. It was the fact that we have a war in progress. We had a couple hundred thousand people whose lives were at stake in Iraq and Afghanistan and we needed to be focused on that and not a discussion on me and what I might have said or thought or someone perceived I said. That’s the motivation.
PHILLIPS: Let’s talk about this article. It was the catalyst. It was the last straw. Tom Barnett made it appear that you were the only man standing between the president and a war with Iran. Is that true?
ADM. FALLON: I don’t believe for a second president bush wants a war with Iran. The situation with Iran is very complex. People sometimes portray it or try to portray it in very simplistic terms we’re against Iran, we want to go to war with Iran, we want to be close to them, the reality is in international politics that many aspects to many of these situations and I believe in our relationship with Iran we need to be strong and firm and convey the principles on which this country stands and upon which our policies are based. At the same time demonstrate a willingness and openness to engage in dialogue because there are things we can find in common.
Fallon refuses to take the Scott McClellan route in this interview. He could easily have thrown in with the conspiracy theorists, especially if he plans on selling a book later, but instead contradicts what everyone supposedly “knows” about Bush and the situation in Iran. Fallon states the obvious, instead: no one wants to go to war in Iran, but they need to keep pressure on Tehran in order to advance American interests. Those interests will not get advanced by dialogue alone, but by gaining enough leverage to force the Iranians into concessions, especially on nuclear weapons and terrorism.
On Iraq, Fallon will prove an even bigger disappointment. Rumors had Petraeus and Fallon at loggerheads on the counterinsurgency strategies Petraeus implemented, and that Fallon preferred a British-style return to bases approach. If so, Fallon doesn’t mention it. Instead, he praises Petraeus and urges the US to stick with the plan:
I believe the best course is to retain the high confidence we have in General Petraeus and his team out there. Dave has done a magnificent job in leading our people in that country. Again, this situation is quite complex. Many angles. There’s a very, very important military role here in providing stability and security in this country but that’s not going to be successful as we know without lots of other people playing a hand. The political side of things in Iraq has got to move forward. That appears to be improving. People have to have confidence in their futures. They want to have stability. They would like to be able to raise their families in peace. They would like to have a job. They would like to look to tomorrow as better than today. It takes more than the military but the military is the one that provides stability and security. The idea we would walk away from Iraq strikes me as not appropriate. We all want to bring our troops home. We want to have the majority of our people back and we want the war ended. Given where we are today, the progress that they’ve made particularly in the last couple months, I think it’s very, very heartening to see what’s really happened here. The right course of action is to continue to work with the Iraqis and let them take over the majority of the tasks for ensuring security for the country and have our people come out on a timetable that’s appropriate with conditions on the ground.
Everyone likes to say that Iraq has no military solution, but Fallon gets this right. The military has to provide the stability and security for political solutions to take hold. Some imagine that a political solution should take a few days to reach, but that’s even less realistic than declaring that the military can’t provide the solution. It takes time to rebuild a national army and security forces to provide stability, and we’ve seen the fruits of that patience now in Basra, Sadr City, and Mosul. Fallon understands this, and he knows that pulling out too soon will destabilize Iraq and its security forces, which could bring a collapse just when we’ve reached the point where victory can be seen.
Finally, it appears that Fallon got pushed out his job — by Esquire, not the Bush administration. Fallon rejects the notion that he got pushed out of CENTCOM by Gates or Bush, but by his own concern over the idea that he would operate in defiance of his commanders. He talks about how detrimental that allegation by Esquire would be to the chain of command, and he felt that CENTCOM needed to be more focused on the men and women in the theater and to ensure the confidence among them in their command.
Fallon’s perspective on Iran, Iraq, and the war in general has much more relevance than a memoir by a press secretary. Which do you think will get more attention?
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Whether you think it misguided or not, President Bush really thinks the west can win the hearts and minds of the average joe in the Middle East. The idea that he “wants” war is silly.
EJDolbow on June 3, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Note how the interviewer attempts to get him to say he’ll negotiate with Iran. Obama would be able to turn around and say, “See, even Admiral Fallon would do it”.
amerpundit on June 3, 2008 at 10:48 AM
You would think that if there was anyone out there who would be beating the drum calling for war against Iran, it would be everyone’s favorite peanut-picking appeaser traitor scumbag, Jimmuh Carter.
Iran embarrassed the living crap out him while he was busy screwing things up in his own country. You can’t tell me, deep down inside, he’s not aching for payback.
pilamaye on June 3, 2008 at 10:48 AM
If Fallon would only lie, even a little, he could be so servicable to the Left.
Akzed on June 3, 2008 at 10:51 AM
General Fallon
Or General FELON?
SteakRules on June 3, 2008 at 10:53 AM
The most underestimated people in the U.S. are these commanders.
The intellect, the analysis, their honor, is so much superior to the politicians (and these weak journalists) who try to defeat them. It shows time after time how great of thinkers, and how really unselfish these men are.
He knew the focus needed to be on the troops, and when the focus came to him, he took the correct course of action. Priorities, something our congress has a problem identifying.
right2bright on June 3, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Steakrules or Steakfool…idiot
right2bright on June 3, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Huh?
James on June 3, 2008 at 10:57 AM
I’m just makin’ suggestions for moveon.org’s next full page ad.
SteakRules on June 3, 2008 at 10:57 AM
God this interviewer was really trying hard to get something out of him that meshes with Obama’s views. It was so embarassingly clear that she doesn’t even understand the job of the military. When she asked him “Would you negotiate with Iran?” She was on the edge of her seat hoping he would say yes. CNN has to be disappointed that the interview wasn’t anti-Bush, especially as they started it off with her mentioning an offhanded remark about the general’s lack of tolerance for incompetence while showing a picture of Bush walking (hint hint wink wink).
jimmy the notable on June 3, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Don’t worry I lol’d. I definitely got the joke.
jimmy the notable on June 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Surprising interview. But Fallon had access to information that all the naysayers about this conflict do not have. I will give Fallon the benefit of the doubt and assume that he is sincere. But he could not possibly walk away from CENTCOM and claim the same nonsense that has been claimed by the critics of the war for the last five years. He knows that the narrative is much more positive then what is being reported so he may be positioning himself to actually be a credible voice if he wants to speak publicly in the future on these issues.
NotCoach on June 3, 2008 at 11:02 AM
McClellan needs to take a lesson from this hero. Thank you for your service Admiral Fallon!!
Dollayo on June 3, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Though it would have been easy to become a media darling by slamming the President, the admiral took the high road. Kudos to him for this & for his honorable service.
jgapinoy on June 3, 2008 at 11:06 AM
@steakrules: that was pretty funny.
DaveS on June 3, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Ed:
Scottie’s memoirs. It’s in tune with the MSM narrative, after all, facts be damned.
irishspy on June 3, 2008 at 11:09 AM
CNN = Communist News Network. CNN has for years has disavowed they were an American news network. Ted Turner, their founder, doesn’t even know whose side he wants to win in Iraq. Anti-American views like this make them a lap dog for the dims in their civil war against our nation. Their battle cry “the truth be damned” rings loud in every broadcast.
volsense on June 3, 2008 at 11:09 AM
A bitter, opportunistic douchebag. Birds of a feather douche together.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 3, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Someone talking sense. That’s refreshing.
Hope there are many like him doing the job even Americans won’t do…(pelosi, reid, etc.)
bridgetown on June 3, 2008 at 11:16 AM
What?
You mean Esquire magazine got it wrong and the CENTCOM commander had it right.
That’s odd. I’ve always relied on the desk jockey as a viable source of information on military matters.
Not.
And that Phillips babe on CNN is annoying as hell. John Roberts and her were obviously tutored by Rather, entering every interview with a handful of gotcha questions.
fogw on June 3, 2008 at 11:17 AM
The fact that it’s even being discussed means the liberals’ premise that Republicans want war has been accepted.
misterpeasea on June 3, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Did anyone notice that the CNN graphic says “Former Commander on Iraq & Iran” lol
p40tiger on June 3, 2008 at 11:30 AM
It’s 50-50 that Keith Olbermann uses that line by Wednesday, since he was so enamored with the “General Patraeus … Or General BETRAY-US?” line last summer.
jon1979 on June 3, 2008 at 11:38 AM
At 3:50
“So when all the talk came about with regard to a third war, a war with Iran, the President didn’t have it on the table, he didn’t say to you, “Look, this is what I wanna do” and did you stand up to him and say “Nope, Sir, bad move.”"
Wow, She says it like it is what really happened.
Swinehound on June 3, 2008 at 11:39 AM
She says it like it is what really happened. – Swine
‘Cause in her twisted, leftist brain, it DID.
‘Leftist brain’ – and oxymoron.
Tony737 on June 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Thew video ends, but in my mind, it continues…
“Final thoughts… I was unable to maneuver you into criticizing your commander in chief, so do you have any regrets, any kind of complaints we can use to tar the Bush administration, the military or the Iraq war effort?”
Alalazoo on June 3, 2008 at 12:08 PM
I’m holding my breath for MSNBC to repeat Fallon’s contention that it would be inappropriate for the US to suddenly walk away from Iraq as inappropriate. (6:35) and that things have really turned around.
moxie_neanderthal on June 3, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Yup. She tries six ways to Sunday to put words in his mouth.
Typical.
hillbillyjim on June 3, 2008 at 12:25 PM
The Esquire writer whose article got Fallon canned, Thomas P.M. Barnett says “hey, not my fault!”
Cuffy Meigs on June 3, 2008 at 12:27 PM
I take back all my negative comments about him.
And reiterate my disdain for Mz. PottyMouth
Kini on June 3, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Damn! Get my broker on the line. Tell him to sell off all of my Alcoa stock.
BohicaTwentyTwo on June 3, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Whichever makes the Bush admin look the worst.
kcd on June 3, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Reporter: Please, sir! We’re desperate for something on Bushitler
Adm. Fallon: But I don’t have anything.
Reporter: Well…just pretend! Tap your shoes three times and say “Bushitler is a war criminal”
mram on June 3, 2008 at 1:50 PM
Yes. It is.
It’s yet another of the funny ironies about the liberal memes: the obvious truth is that if Bush could have anything he wanted, he’d bring the troops home tomorrow, and spend the rest of his term relaxing in Crawford. He didn’t go into Iraq to help himself; he thought he had to. Whether he was right or wrong may be arguable – but he didn’t want it.
A lesser man – say, a Clinton – would have just done nothing. It would have been easy to do. And he’d have coasted to a second term and have high popularity ratings (at least until gas prices went through the roof).
Iran is the last thing he wants. Especially this late in his administration. And a lot of Presidents would avoid it – even its necessary.
The reason I’ll always admire him is that, if he thinks its necessary, he’ll do it. No matter how much he doesn’t want to.
He believes in duty. There’s no higher compliment for a President.
Professor Blather on June 3, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Fallon is right to suggest that a war with Iran is the last thing the US wants right now. It is nice to know that the President is like minded and I can’t imagine he would be so stupid as to push for another conflict at this time. There seem to be plenty of Hot Air readers who are yearning for a war with Iran, however.
lexhamfox on June 3, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Fallon isn’t going to get many more offers for “interviews” now. Wonder why.
GarandFan on June 3, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Ha haa.
oakpack on June 3, 2008 at 3:54 PM
General Fallon?
Admiral Fallon.
davod on June 3, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Fallon is now black-balled from MesSNBC.
I guess it’s better than blue-balled though.
omnipotent on June 3, 2008 at 4:15 PM
The Dems, MSM, nutroots won`t remember who he is now.
“Fallon? Who is this Mr. Fallon you speak of?”
ThePrez on June 3, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Who is the idiot who transcribed that sentence. Looks like something a 13 year old or a college student would post.
Wade on June 3, 2008 at 6:56 PM
pilamaye on June 3, 2008 at 10:48 AM
WHAT??? He put those people in power!!!! Go read your history….oh wait…it’s not in the books…. read the newspaper reports from back then…..oh wait, it’s not there either!!!! Take my word on it… uggg
jerrytbg on June 3, 2008 at 7:12 PM
ahhh… they want one with us… there is a difference!
jerrytbg on June 3, 2008 at 7:16 PM
“Bush doesn’t want war with Iran”
Sad. I do.
Kevin M on June 3, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran…?
You’re all; colectively fools..!
J_Gocht on June 3, 2008 at 9:03 PM
As an olde dumbe asse soldier I must digress…
Afghanistan, 3000 Marines may have been injected recently?
Has this resulted in winning the “hearts and minds” of the Afghans?
Have we convinced the Afghanis that growing “poppy” buys them more grocery money than growing wheat or corn?
Have the Taliban “disappeared into the eastern tribal areas of Afghanistan and the western mountains of Pakistan?
This is something guerilla fighters are wont to do…huh?
Are we on “on top of this shit” in Afghanistan?
Just asking?
J_Gocht on June 3, 2008 at 9:45 PM
“Though it would have been easy to become a media darling by slamming the President, the admiral took the high road. Kudos to him for this & for his honorable service.”
What the Admiral did was his job, nothing more and nothing less. To expect anything less or to single him out for special praise, doesn’t acknowledge the fact that the overwhelming number of American servicemen would have given a similar answer. I suspect that the good Admiral would agree
Linh_My on June 3, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Has this resulted in winning the “hearts and minds” of the Afghans?
Convinvcing the Afghans has nothing to do with it. You must have infrastructure to grow food and fiber- poppies and the resultant “crop” of heroin base requires none. Again, security must precede the establishment of infrastructure. Simple minds demand simple solutions.
Particularly when subjected to aforementioned serious ASS-KICKINGS.
Without question.
Alamo on June 4, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Gosh, I feel much better now. Earlier I felt we had taken our eye off the ball with the diversion of troops and treasure into an absolutely needless excursion in Iraq.
J_Gocht on June 4, 2008 at 12:10 PM
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