Breaking: AP says Hillary will admit defeat tonight Update: Team Hillary denies Update: To acknowledge “where we are”?

posted at 11:18 am on June 3, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Hillary Clinton will concede tonight that Barack Obama has the delegates to win the nomination, the AP reports. She will not withdraw at this time or even suspend her campaign, but with no remaining primaries or caucuses, she will shut down her operations:

Hillary Rodham Clinton will concede Tuesday night that Barack Obama has the delegates to secure the Democratic nomination, campaign officials said, effectively ending her bid to be the nation’s first female president.

The former first lady will stop short of formally suspending or ending her race in her speech in New York City. She will pledge to continue to speak out on issues like health care. But for all intents and purposes, the two senior officials said, the campaign is over. ….

The advisers said Clinton has made a strategic decision to not formally end her campaign, giving her leverage to negotiate with Obama on various matters including a possible vice presidential nomination for her. She also wants to press him on issues he should focus on in the fall, such as health care.

If she wants to be VP, Obama may not have much choice. She can press him all the way to the ballot for the nomination and tie him up all summer in lobbying the superdelegates. He will be faced with the conundrum that LBJ described as between having someone outside the tent pissing in or inside the tent pissing out. At this point, he may have little choice but to accept the latter.

Does she really want that role, though? I think not. If she thinks he’s as weak as she’s warned, she will want to distance herself from a general-election debacle. A commitment for a Cabinet-level appointment and help retiring her campaign debt would probaby do it.

I’ll have more on this as details arise.

Update: The AP says yes, while Jim Geraghty’s inbox says no:

Statement from the Clinton Campaign:

The AP story is incorrect. Senator Clinton will not concede the nomination this evening[.]

We’ll see. Technically, the AP doesn’t say she’ll concede, but that she will admit that Obama has the delegates for the nomination. There’s daylight between the two, but to be fair, you’d have to be a Clintonista to see it.

Update II: Chris Cillizza at The Fix says the speech tonight will “acknowledge where we are”:

A senior Clinton adviser told The Fix moments ago that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) will “recognize the reality of where we are” during her remarks tonight in New York City.

The adviser warned that the language of Clinton’s speech was not yet set and offered no comment about reports that the New York senator is planning to admit tonight that Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) has the 2,118 delegates necessary to formally clinch the party’s nomination. Other high-ranking Clinton aides professed no knowledge that a decision had been made to acknowledge Obama as the nominee tonight.

The Clinton campaign, in fact, released a statement insisting that the Associated Press story that fueled this maelstrom was not correct; “Senator Clinton will not concede the nomination this evening,” the statement asserted.

Language is important here. An acknowledgment of Obama securing the delegates he needs to formally become the party’s nominee is NOT the same thing as a concession by Clinton.

Does anyone recall parsing the meaning of the word “is”?  Language is always important in deciphering the Clintons.  Why should today be any different?


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The Fat Lady is taking in a deep breath and is about to break into song!

pilamaye on June 3, 2008 at 11:21 AM

“I’ve been beaten, and I’d get out of the race, only there’s a tape out there with the lovely and gracious Michelle Obama ranting about whitey.”

misterpeasea on June 3, 2008 at 11:22 AM

Imam Obama could end the thing by picking a VP today. Of course then the excrement would hit the ventilator but it would be fun to watch.

Annar on June 3, 2008 at 11:24 AM

This is not admitting defeat, this is changing gears. Primaries are over. Time to go into persuade superdelegates mode. She has almost half the pledged delegates herself and will own half the damn convention floor as a result. She is taking this all the way.

NotCoach on June 3, 2008 at 11:25 AM

She’ll never admit “defeat”.

profitsbeard on June 3, 2008 at 11:26 AM

The Pant suit is singing.

Will OBAMA have to pay off some of Hillary’s campaign bills? Or will she pay with her millions?

Will she become the LIONESS of the Senate?

originalpechanga on June 3, 2008 at 11:26 AM

Imam Obama could end the thing by picking a VP today. Of course then the excrement would hit the ventilator but it would be fun to watch.

Annar on June 3, 2008 at 11:24 AM

Is that like “Grand Wizard” McCain???

TOPV on June 3, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Gee……..how will this affect the primaries today? If Obama wins, is it because she’s pseudo-admitting defeat? It would cast a negative shadow on any victory scored by Barry tonight.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 3, 2008 at 11:28 AM

not so fast

A tsunami of superdelegates is poised to rush to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) over the next 12 hours, giving him a mathematical lock on his party’s presidential nomination.

The superdelegate surge is likely to swamp a few holdouts within the camp of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-Ill.) who have been resisting a prompt concession.

Aides say Clinton does not plan to concede or bid supporters farewell when she speaks in New York tonight, but instead will salute her supporters and argue for the strength of her candidacy.blockquote>

Weight of Glory on June 3, 2008 at 11:30 AM

“The advisers said Clinton has made a strategic decision to not formally end her campaign, giving her leverage to negotiate with Obama on various matters including a possible vice presidential nomination for her. She also wants to press him on issues he should focus on in the fall, such as health care.”
Ahem…the negotiations may include a disclosure that she has a dump truck full of dirt ready to dump if he doesn’t put her on the ticket and/or pay off her debts.
This woman is never going away.

Christine on June 3, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Sorry forgot the link.

Weight of Glory on June 3, 2008 at 11:30 AM

From Chaos to order?

Nope. Entropy will not allow it.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 3, 2008 at 11:31 AM

And Bob Beckel is saying Michelle Obama’s “whitey” video should come out any day now.

Time to buy more popcorn.

SPCOlympics on June 3, 2008 at 11:31 AM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 3, 2008 at 11:31 AM

Heh.

Weight of Glory on June 3, 2008 at 11:31 AM

Charlie Brown, Lucy, football.

RBMN on June 3, 2008 at 11:35 AM

G’Bye, Clintons. Hillary will disappear into the Senate, coming out only to lambaste Republicans on the Sunday morning shows, ala John Kerry. Bill will continue to embarrass himself and our country around the globe. Chelsea? Don’t care.
As the next few months will seem boring by comparison, I’ve decided to start the rumor that Obama will choose his life mate, Michelle, as his running mate. Putting her in the veep slot will do the Clintons one better. Look for Beckel to be talking about it next week.

Doug on June 3, 2008 at 11:36 AM

Mark Halperin:


CLINTON CAMPAIGN CHAIR CALLS CABLE NETWORKS TO SHOOT DOWN WIRE REPORT THAT CLINTON PLANNED TO ALL BUT CONCEDE IN TUESDAY NIGHT’S SPEECH

Top adviser Ickes also tells MSNBC the report is inaccurate.

amerpundit on June 3, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Terry McAuliffe was just on CNN saying reports from AP and others are “completely wrong”. He said Clinton will not concede tonight or even admit Obama has the delegates needed. This story is likely being pushed by the Obama camp in an effort to get the superdelegate surge that has been hyped up for today.

davenp35 on June 3, 2008 at 11:38 AM

This is just Obama’s ‘bots in the press trying to stampede the Beast into withdrawing; or, wishful thinking on their part. Hillary has half the delegates and popular vote; and she’s beaten Obambi convincingly the last 2 months. She isn’t going anywhere, soon.

james23 on June 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM

So. Much. FUN!

aero on June 3, 2008 at 11:45 AM

I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re waiting for the results from the final primaries tonight, since Hillary has been gaining ground in both states over the past week. If she somehow manages to win both S.D. and Montana, it’s hard to see her immediately announcing she’s pulling out — the more likely scenario there would be to use the upset wins to take at least one more shot at swaying the final superdelegates over the next few days.

jon1979 on June 3, 2008 at 11:45 AM

As for Hillary quitting, I will believe it when I see it. Bill and Hill think this nomination is rightfully theirs. And they are capable of ANYTHING to get it or to steal it anyway they can.

Maxx on June 3, 2008 at 11:45 AM

The more petulant she acts by throwing up roadblocks once the general campaign begins, the more she’s going to alienate her own people. If she really is desperate to be on the ticket, the time to negotiate that was over the past month. Conceding tonight and then un-conceding later leaves her in no man’s land.

Ahem! Shouldn’t that be no-PERSON’S land? ;-)

Seriously though, I think reports of Clinton’s demise are premature. These people are like the villan in some horror film- always popping back up just when you think they are dead! My prediction is that unless she is seriously out of money, Hillary Clinton will not call it quits tonight.

Instead the negotiations with the DNC and Obama’s people begin to figure out some graceful way to let the “world’s smartest woman” to step aside in a way that saves face. She would chafe as a VP nominee (especially with the comfort of the Senate as an alternative) so this is effectively a dance to end what is clearly one of the most ineptly run primary seasons of the last few decades. Howard Dean should be burned in effigy for his poor performance as the party’s chief cheerleader and umpire.

highhopes on June 3, 2008 at 11:47 AM

Terry McAuliffe was just on CNN saying reports from AP and others are “completely wrong”.

And he has such a track record of being right on such things!

highhopes on June 3, 2008 at 11:48 AM

The advisers said Clinton has made a strategic decision to not formally end her campaign, giving her leverage to negotiate with Obama on various matters including a possible vice presidential nomination for her. She also wants to press him on issues he should focus on in the fall, such as health care.

I think this is the spin that most of the media is buying (Obama agrees with most of her issues). I think she is staying in just for the good chance that Obama will stumble so bad that she will be in the wings to take over and save the day.
She knows how quickly a campaign can turn sour…Dukakis up by 17 points, Gary Hart, Carter and the rabbit incident, Spitzer, so many things can happen in a few months.
And if she isn’t there, Gore will be.

right2bright on June 3, 2008 at 11:49 AM

The AP story is incorrect. Senator Clinton will not concede the nomination this evening[.]

Ha! I knew she wouldn’t go that easily!

4shoes on June 3, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Charlie Brown, Lucy, football.

RBMN on June 3, 2008 at 11:35 AM

LOL, perfect comparison……

Bogeyfre on June 3, 2008 at 11:49 AM

she will admit that Obama has the delegates for the nomination.

I understood that after the next 2 states, that neither will have enough. Was that incorrect?

kcd on June 3, 2008 at 11:50 AM

What kind of dummies write the headlines in our news today?

“…says she not conceding”

Entelechy on June 3, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Is that like “Grand Wizard” McCain???

TOPV on June 3, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Not really, it’s a precursor of his January announcement about his new “church.”

Annar on June 3, 2008 at 11:51 AM

If you’re wondering what that sound is, it’s the dhimmicratic party imploding.

4shoes on June 3, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Emphasis in this evening. She’ll probably do a pow-wow with her close circle of confidants (especially Bill) after tonight, deciding how to exit the race.

Then again, the campaign was predicting a 25-point win in South Dakota.

amerpundit on June 3, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Entelechy on June 3, 2008 at 11:51 AM

I know I see stuff like that all the time, it always surprises me.

4shoes on June 3, 2008 at 11:55 AM

Thrust and parry. Beckel tries to create an atmosphere of fear and loathing with his message early this AM, and Barry’s tribe plants a false story with AP. Something is fixin’ to happen tonight or tomorrow. It may come clear out of left field.

a capella on June 3, 2008 at 11:56 AM

What to do?

- Michelle O. has just begun exposing shiite.
- To be VP, at 50/50% chances?
- To be in charge of the Senate, with a huge majority?
- To be Secretary of Health and Human Services?
- To be a SCOTUS judge?
- To ask for Bill to be a SCTUS judge so he’ll finally be hidden, at least behind dark garments (wait, that might be advantageous for him)
- All this would end a run in 2012
- If she doeasn’t do any of the above, will it end chances anyway?

I sure wouldn’t want to be her, but the lady is not giving up. It’s incredibly fascinating to watch.

The Messiah and his anarchyst wife are walking a rope, not quite getting to the top, and the Glacier is not melting, not by a mm. No one could have conceived this book, never.

Entelechy on June 3, 2008 at 11:57 AM

Something is fixin’ to happen tonight or tomorrow. It may come clear out of left field.

a capella on June 3, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Were not Michelle O. involved, I’d predict that Barry and Hillary will appear together, somewhere, tomorrow, and declare their ‘love’ for each other. But it’s more complex than this, way more.

Entelechy on June 3, 2008 at 11:59 AM

In a related development Harold Stassen suspends his campaign.

MB4 on June 3, 2008 at 11:59 AM

Something is fixin’ to happen tonight or tomorrow. It may come clear out of left field.

a capella on June 3, 2008 at 11:56 AM

There seems to have been a lot more desperate moves on team Obama’s part since about Monday of last week, than there has been on team Clinton’s part, that’s for sure.

Weight of Glory on June 3, 2008 at 12:00 PM

I know I see stuff like that all the time, it always surprises me.

4shoes on June 3, 2008 at 11:55 AM

Miracle, now they fixed it.

Entelechy on June 3, 2008 at 12:00 PM

McCain could offer her a big spotlight, which allows her to run in 2012, unincumbered. Of course her support would go south for the time-being, but Kennedy didn’t supprot Carter in 1980 either, except with tepid lip-service.

Entelechy on June 3, 2008 at 12:03 PM

No one could have conceived this book, never.

Entelechy on June 3, 2008 at 11:57 AM

I think that Charles Lutwidge Dodgson came close.

MB4 on June 3, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Hillary isn’t conceding. Not when Andrea Mitchell broke the news, not now either. Convention!

Spirit of 1776 on June 3, 2008 at 12:09 PM

The longer this goes on the harder my liver gets.

Limerick on June 3, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Harold Ickes:

“We don’t think either one will have the nomination by tonight. Mrs. Clinton continues to make her case to thet uncommitted superdelegates that will decide this.”

amerpundit on June 3, 2008 at 12:16 PM

amerpundit on June 3, 2008 at 12:16 PM

I hope Ickes keeps emphasizing who’s REALLY going to decide this. Rank-and-file Dem voters need to realize their votes will not be the deciding factor. The powerful party elite will decide for them.

aero on June 3, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Miracle, now they fixed it.

Entelechy on June 3, 2008 at 12:00 PM

Ha!

4shoes on June 3, 2008 at 12:22 PM

My money’s on…Hillary will not concede.

Tonight would be the perfect night to do it, but I just can’t believe she will. This one’s going to the convention.

JetBoy on June 3, 2008 at 12:24 PM

A senior Clinton adviser told The Fix moments ago that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) will “recognize the reality of where we are”

Where they are is floating in the middle of the Great Cosmic Toilet of Reality and the Hand Of Fate is poised over the handle, ready to flush!

pilamaye on June 3, 2008 at 12:28 PM

She’ll never admit “defeat”.

profitsbeard on June 3, 2008 at 11:26 AM

Except in Iraq.

ihasurnominashun on June 3, 2008 at 12:37 PM

Does everyone realizes that;

A) Neither Hillary or Barak have enough pledged delegates to take the nomination,
B) Superdelegates can endorse anyone they want and change their minds as many times as they want for what ever reason they want, up until the first ballot at the convention, and
C) Pledged delegates can be released from their pledge if the first ballot does not result in a winner.

People are nuts if they think Hillary will concede the nomination. There is still 10 weeks of stupidity that have yet to happen.

percysunshine on June 3, 2008 at 12:39 PM

My money is on….VP, with Michelle duct taped in the Green Room.

Limerick on June 3, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Does anyone recall parsing the meaning of the word “is”? Language is always important in deciphering the Clintons. Why should today be any different?

But Obama doesn’t have the delegates to win! Realclearpolitics shows that among pledged delegates, Obama is up by about 115-120. He, like Hillary, is relying on the “pledges” of superdelegates to get him past the post. Superdelegate “pledges” are nonbinding – as Hillary has learned the hard way.

So why get out now? I’m guessing the combination of an offer to retire her campaign debt and a threat, possibly by party leadership, of significant reprisals against her if she keeps going.

Outlander on June 3, 2008 at 12:40 PM

There seems to have been a lot more desperate moves on team Obama’s part since about Monday of last week, than there has been on team Clinton’s part, that’s for sure.

Weight of Glory on June 3, 2008 at 12:00 PM

That’s because Obama’s people are gearing up to fight a general election while Clinton’s people are gearing up to find a new job!

highhopes on June 3, 2008 at 12:42 PM

So why get out now? I’m guessing the combination of an offer to retire her campaign debt and a threat, possibly by party leadership, of significant reprisals against her if she keeps going.

Outlander on June 3, 2008 at 12:40 PM

I suspect the Superdelegate count is pretty well known by all- even if not public. The fact of the matter is that Hillary Clinton shouldn’t be getting out at this point. She has an equally strong case to be made why she should be the nominee and there is loads of time before the convention. Obama is an empty suit with a propensity to make gaffes of the simplest issues. Clinton is a well-padded pantsuit who is arguably the more electable candidate.

Do the Clintons really strike you as people that would strike their tents under these circumstances?

highhopes on June 3, 2008 at 12:47 PM

percysunshine on June 3, 2008 at 12:39 PM

It would seem the DNC is a bit desperate demanding that the “supers” commit now instead of at convention. I suspect that this demand was made to throw the election to Obama. I am very optimistic that it just added fuel to the fire and, without a concession, the Democrats won’t have a clear candidate for at least a few more weeks of brokered negotiations.

highhopes on June 3, 2008 at 12:51 PM

So are the media floating these rumors in order to affect the last of primaries…in Obama’s favor?

onlineanalyst on June 3, 2008 at 12:57 PM

highhopes on June 3, 2008 at 12:51 PM

Without a concession, it has to go to at least the first ballot in Denver. Let me throw you another curve ball. Remember the ‘Gang of 14′ Senators? A small minority prevented rule changes because neither the Dems nor the Repubs could muster a majority. So, theoreticly, a small group of Superdeligates could deny both candidates enough delegates to win and force a second ballot. At that point, all of the delegates can change their votes, and everyone has an excuse to do what they want. Talk about chaos.

Ok, wishful thinking, but the Dems have been reliably hilarious all year.

percysunshine on June 3, 2008 at 1:00 PM

She may concede he has the votes NOW, but she won’t concede defeat.
The votes now, does not mean in the future. She will congratulate him for having the votes he has now, and wish him well.

Hillary Rodham Clinton will concede Tuesday night that Barack Obama has the delegates to secure the Democratic nomination, campaign officials said,

The following is the part that is in question, this is what the journalist believes, but Hillary does not..

effectively ending her bid to be the nation’s first female president.

right2bright on June 3, 2008 at 1:01 PM

Ok, wishful thinking, but the Dems have been reliably hilarious all year.

percysunshine on June 3, 2008 at 1:00 PM

Agreed. The one bright spot in a year marked by the hijacking of the GOP by a bunch of conservative-hating morons who think that the path to victory is to be more like the Democrats than the Democrats, the presumptive GOP nomination of a cranky old political traitor who seems intent on alienating the party base and seeking revenge against evangelical voters, and (of course) the almost certain rise of an utterly unqualified Senator to be the next President because traditional GOP values have been jettisoned in favor of McCainsian liberalism.

highhopes on June 3, 2008 at 1:15 PM

Larry Johnson is still hyping the video.

Nothing of substance, of course.

drjohn on June 3, 2008 at 1:35 PM

The Obama campaign has proven remarkably inept since its big string of victories way back in February. They have been unable to control the narrative, unable to get Hillary out of the race, and unable to win most of the primaries since Barack was declared the “inevitable winner.” Hillary has developed a more compelling message of being a fighter for the middle class, albeit too late. Obama has been on his heels for weeks battling John McCain on Iran and losing, instead of talking about the economy. He commits a gaffe every time he opens his mouth.

If I’m a superdelegate, that’s the kind of stuff that scares the hell out of me. This campaign and candidate are simply not ready for prime time, and the whole Democratic Party is going to go off a cliff if it chooses Obama.

Hillary knows this and will hammer the supers on it for the next few weeks, as she should. She has no reason at all to get out of the race. This is it for her, this is what she has put up with Bill’s bullshit for 35 years for. Why in God’s name she should give it up for some wet-behind-the-big-ears dillettante is beyond me.

rockmom on June 3, 2008 at 1:40 PM

Hillary knows this and will hammer the supers on it for the next few weeks, as she should. She has no reason at all to get out of the race. This is it for her, this is what she has put up with Bill’s bullshit for 35 years for. Why in God’s name she should give it up for some wet-behind-the-big-ears dillettante is beyond me.

rockmom on June 3, 2008 at 1:40 PM

Exactly. It must be irksome for Hillary Clinton to see the media “not get it” about Obama. Superdelegate count or not, she really does have the more compelling case why she should get the nomination with Obama as the VP nominee (and heir apparent in eight years). Throw in the fact that the Clintons pact always included the Presidency for both and she must be livid with rage.

That being said, Hillary Clinton had her Senate seat purchased for her by Bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton was responsible for more than a few of the gaffes of the Clinton years including healthcare reform, travelgate, FBI file misuse, missing Rose Law firm billing records, and searching Vince Foster’s office. Hillary got the Clinton name but she also got the Clinton baggage. I’m not sure the country is willing to add another Clinton to the Bush/Clinton/Bush string of Presidents.

highhopes on June 3, 2008 at 1:57 PM

NotCoach on June 3, 2008 at 11:25 AM

Bingo.

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Charlie Brown, Lucy, football.

RBMN on June 3, 2008 at 11:35 AM

:-)

Obama is a lot like Charlie Brown, isn’t he?
(and no “brown” racial meaning intended! I’m talking about him getting easily deceived by Hillary)

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 2:22 PM

And Bob Beckel is saying Michelle Obama’s “whitey” video should come out any day now.

Time to buy more popcorn.

SPCOlympics on June 3, 2008 at 11:31 AM

If the video exists (and I think it is a real possibility that it does), then Hilary wanted it held until after the primaries today. Maybe she thought it could backfire somehow with the primary voters. Once the polls are closed, however, if the tape exists it will be released. It would be really interesting if she picked tonight to let it out…

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 2:26 PM

Virtually every news reporting service is saying B.O. has clinched the nomination and despite all this, McAuliffe is still blathering and blubbering that there is no way in hell Shillary is going to concede.

At this point, any slight shred of sanity that was remaining in this whole campaign process has officially gone sailing out the window.

pilamaye on June 3, 2008 at 2:51 PM

Virtually every news reporting service is saying B.O. has clinched the nomination and despite all this, McAuliffe is still blathering and blubbering that there is no way in hell Shillary is going to concede.

I just wonder- these are the Clintons we are talking about- whether tonight is the big “acknowledgement” that the odds are against Hillary Clinton. The Clinton campaign makes a big show of letting people go, working with Obama’s people, etc….. All the time launching Operation Scorched Earth behind the scenes in order to sway superdelegates and the party leadership.

highhopes on June 3, 2008 at 3:01 PM

She’ll never admit “defeat”.

profitsbeard on June 3, 2008 at 11:26 AM

Except in Iraq.

ihasurnominashun on June 3, 2008 at 12:37 PM

Dead right. She’ll never admit defeat in the real war.

tom on June 3, 2008 at 3:18 PM

From Chaos to order?

The Expelled Debate Continues…

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 3:20 PM

From Drudge:

JIMMY CARTER TO ENDORSE TONIGHT…

But of course!

Obama is running for a SECOND CARTER TERM!

Carter’s National Security Advisor is an Obama advisor.

This was totally expected.

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 3:23 PM

If the video exists (and I think it is a real possibility that it does), then Hilary wanted it held until after the primaries today. Maybe she thought it could backfire somehow with the primary voters. Once the polls are closed, however, if the tape exists it will be released. It would be really interesting if she picked tonight to let it out…

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 2:26 PM

I think the tape, in some form, probably exists, I think the SDs know it exists, and I think tonight Her Majesty will in some veiled way let it be known to the SDs that if they don’t reconsider, it will be released to the public. They are all cunning enough to know it will have someone else’s fingerprints on the release, but I think tonight or tomorrow, she fires a shot across the bows. This all might be done by private communication rather than in a public presentation, but she has to force the issue.

a capella on June 3, 2008 at 3:35 PM

I might add that even if a tape doesn’t exist, the Clinton machine has probably sown the rumors we are presently hearing, so she may be running a bluff holding a pair of deuces. If the SDs aren’t sure if one exists, but are aware of Michelle’s tendencies, the bluff has teeth.

a capella on June 3, 2008 at 3:44 PM

I think I’ll hang onto my Popcorn stock a bit longer.

davidk on June 3, 2008 at 3:45 PM

Siren over at Drudge.

Weight of Glory on June 3, 2008 at 3:47 PM

Siren over at Drudge.

Weight of Glory on June 3, 2008 at 3:47 PM

That would be a real curve ball. Hard to believe she’ll just roll over like that. Makes a tough ticket, but I wonder what the sore loser quotient will be, and that Barry would be that trusting.

a capella on June 3, 2008 at 4:01 PM

Hard to believe she’ll just roll over like that. Makes a tough ticket, but I wonder what the sore loser quotient will be, and that Barry would be that trusting.

a capella on June 3, 2008 at 4:01 PM

How could he offer her the VP slot when she has said this on two different occasions?

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 4:11 PM

How could he offer her the VP slot when she has said this on two different occasions?

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 4:11 PM

I don’t know. That VP scenario just doesn’t make sense knowing her personality and the baggage she would bring, plus she knows he’s a loser. It does let the DNC off the hook.

a capella on June 3, 2008 at 4:23 PM

I don’t know. That VP scenario just doesn’t make sense knowing her personality and the baggage she would bring, plus she knows he’s a loser. It does let the DNC off the hook.

a capella on June 3, 2008 at 4:23 PM

An Obama/Clinton ticket will win in Reagenesque fashion.

12thman on June 3, 2008 at 5:15 PM

An Obama/Clinton ticket will win in Reagenesque fashion.

12thman on June 3, 2008 at 5:15 PM

Well, it certainly increases my fear levels. Guess we’ll have to see if it’s for real. Lots of questions, though. Hillary would obviously be doing it as a setup for 2012,..is Obama dumb enough to give her that opportunity, once he screws up the country the way we know he will? When the uniqueness of being the first black president wears off, he’s gonna have to perform, and being black in 2012 isn’t going to give him the boost it does now. Pretty risky for him.

a capella on June 3, 2008 at 5:43 PM

jerrytbg and pseudonominus,
Please see my response to your comments at the bottom of the thread:

Chelsea: Of course Mom wants more gun control!

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 5:58 PM

I kid you not, our local news station just had this headline on their Web site.

Obama on top….while Clinton goes down.”

Jiobaobubai on June 3, 2008 at 6:01 PM

I have read with a great amount of interest all the statements and commits in this blog, but I must tell you that at this time, I am totally feed up with the American system and the bull sheet of our political system and will now move to Ireland. I know they are socialist and what I am getting into. Darn I really hate this.

foxone on June 3, 2008 at 6:13 PM

I have my doubts Hillary will concede outright. That doesn’t seem to be within her ego’s range of motion when there’s the possibility of convenient plane crashes, automobile accidents or other fates to befall her opposition.

More likely tonight, she’ll levitate over the bed, her head will spin, she’ll vomit green pea soup, then yell at her press corps lackeys to “Get Out!!!”

viking01 on June 3, 2008 at 6:38 PM

I can’t help but think as I look at that picture on the front page that she’s going to break into a rendition of the song “Memories.”

ScoopPC11 on June 3, 2008 at 7:57 PM

Can you imagine Hillary as VeePee? The experienced one in the administration, like Al Gore and then, for her to get shunted out of the West Wing, just like she did to Al…

Poetic Justice Baby…

originalpechanga on June 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM

It’s getting darker in the tunnel but there’s a light ahead at the end of the tunnel but really that’s a train coming down the pike real fast.

Kokonut on June 3, 2008 at 8:26 PM

Anybody for 2016….?

http://www.jindal2016.com

click on it. You’ll be amazed on where it will lead you to. And makes you go, hmmmm….

Besides, in 8 years will Chelsea be eligible for presidency?

A hmmmm…..

Kokonut on June 3, 2008 at 8:28 PM

Let the Awe and Mystery of a Journey Unlike Any Other Begin

Hillary was ready for the vast right wing conspiracy, but not for the sabotage from the left wing complex. “HER” machine, like the HAL computer on 2001 Space Odyssey, is not only set to destroy all of mankind, but her along with all others. Like David Bowman, Hillary has seen what’s happening before HAL successfully terminates her existence. Though she’s surrounded by the poisonous DNC atmosphere, she has YET to succumb to HAL. Hillary still has all of her supporters, and at this point, even her competitors admire her endurance against all odds. She’s pulling in so much support STILL, against HAL’s MSM dictates.

You MUST admit, all of this has changed Hillary. There is no longer any reason for her to roll over and play dead, despite umpire HAL’s calls. If the left has no need of Hillary, then she has her own Road to Damascus fall from the donkey’s back, hard knock on the head and subsequent vision or revelation.

Once upon a time, a looooooooooooooong time ago, Hillary was a Republican. By the age of 21, she chose to ride the donkey instead of the elephant to chase her dreams. She still has her dreams. The donkey kicked her off. She might as well go the Independent route and try to lasso an loose RINO or elephant on her way. We’ll see how the DNC betrayal plays out. One thing is certain, no matter what the DNC says now or wishes to have occur, THIS IS NOT THE END OF HILLARY’S POLITICAL CAREER! That she no longer NEEDS to feel chained to the ol’ ball may be the best thing that ever happened to the ol’ girl.

Time will tell.

maverick muse on June 4, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Poetic Justice Baby…

originalpechanga on June 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM

Schadenfreude

…but it ain’t over until Hillary says it’s over.

Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 1:47 PM

the HAL computer on 2001 Space Odyssey

maverick muse on June 4, 2008 at 12:30 PM

You know why the computer was named HAL?

Push each of the three letters ahead by one character in the alphabet and HAL becomes IBM.

Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 1:52 PM