Are you ready for California governor Mitt Romney?

posted at 8:53 pm on June 3, 2008 by Allahpundit

Ahnuld’s out in 2010, leaving him just enough time to (a) establish residency, (b) win the governorship(?), and (c) ditch it two years later for a quixotic, second, even more Reaganesque run at the presidency that’s destined to fail when the GOP faithful finally embrace Huckabee’s special brand of Christian collectivism. Exit question: Is this some ham-handed ploy to ingratiate himself to Californians now in hope of being named VP and stealing the state for McCain? A ham-handed ploy for the gubernatorial race? Or a ham-handed ploy to buy himself some sweet-ass beachfront property in southern Cali so he can kick it wholesome-style among L.A.’s dissolute glitterati? It’s bound to end in disappointment, Mitt!


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Romney is a very rich guy and La Jolla is a very nice place to be a very rich guy. I doubt there is anything much more to it than that.

If he wants to run for Governator, that’s fine with me too. He just might have a shot at it. Especially since the Dems may run Newsom or Villaraigosa. Either of those guys will play well on the coast, not nearly so well a couple of miles inland.

I have to admit I voted for Arnold, both times. In retrospect, I should have voted for either McLintock or Mary Carey. McLintock because he is a true consevative, or, Carey because it might actually take a porn star to deal effectively with the perpetual clusterf&%k up in Sacramento.

trigon on June 4, 2008 at 1:30 AM

I don’t care where Mitt lives. I’m voting for him in the general. Write-in.

cjs1943 on June 4, 2008 at 1:44 AM

I would vote for Romney. I would rather he be Governor than Jerry Brown or Antonio Villaraigosa.

SoulGlo on June 3, 2008 at 9:11 PM

SoulGlo, you forgot Mayor Gavin of SF. He wants to run too. Of the three, I’d take Brown, because he’s not a hypocrite, lives the life he preaches, is tough, and has changed a lot from his youth. But of course, if Romney runs, he’ll have the best chance and he’d be my favorite.

SaintOlaf, you’re a pathetic figure.

Entelechy on June 4, 2008 at 1:57 AM

SaintOlaf, you’re a pathetic figure.

Entelechy on June 4, 2008 at 1:57 AM

Hey.

That’s kind of out of the blue entelechy.

Interesting choice of words though…projecting alot?

I don’t care if you are a mean and bitter old maid…nor does it bother me that you hate me..

No matter how wicked and stupid I think you are, I’ll always love you, I’ll never abandon you and I’ll always forgive you.

Next time before you insult me, you should realize that I am someone who will always be there to help you,with whatever you need,when no one else will.

No matter what you say or do to me.

SaintOlaf on June 4, 2008 at 2:45 AM

It don’t know what’s more inane this blog or posting on it.

Romney said they bought the property to be closer to the grandchildren on the Hugh Hewitt show. If you’ve ever seen him with his grandchildren, you’d know that was an honest answer.

sheryl on June 4, 2008 at 3:09 AM

Hey.

That’s kind of out of the blue entelechy.

Interesting choice of words though…projecting alot?

I don’t care if you are a mean and bitter old maid…nor does it bother me that you hate me..

No matter how wicked and stupid I think you are, I’ll always love you, I’ll never abandon you and I’ll always forgive you.

Next time before you insult me, you should realize that I am someone who will always be there to help you,with whatever you need,when no one else will.

No matter what you say or do to me.

SaintOlaf on June 4, 2008 at 2:45 AM

I’ve been wary of you because I thought you were a Christian fundamentalist whose views I didn’t agree with, but who was part of some larger movement in America. I thought you simply believed as a devout Christian that a Christian, your sect or whatever, had to be President– not a Mormon or a Jew or Hindu or some other religion. I accepted your dislike of others because I thought you truly believed in the literal word of the bible and had no choice, so to speak.

But after what you just said to Entelechy, I know I was wrong. You use the bible to hide something mean in you, or worse. Only this time it came out.

I’ve decided to make my own decision about Christianity based upon you, who claims to speak with the true word. I don’t have complete information and can’t quote more than a few bible verses. But you’re the exception that proves the rule. The Christian community at HA and in America is lovely. You weren’t successful in poisoning the well. And this heathen wishes you well.

JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 5:44 AM

JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 5:44 AM

Amen, you worded my thoughts.

Squid Shark on June 4, 2008 at 6:28 AM

He is just a few miles from a truly beautiful Mormon Temple. It is one of the truly great monuments of excessiveness. The 12 oxen carved out of marble supporting the batismal (even “grandstands” to watch are great), the unbelievable mural of Jesus with all the “worlds” that men can rule swirling around, it is surreal. The spiral staircases, chandeliers, a remarkable piece of architecture.
LaJolla market depressed, he can pick up a home on the beach for maybe 5-10 million, a bargain now. Great school and medical (UCSD,Scripps), very entrepreneurial area. it makes sense for him to move there.
LaJolla-Salt Lake City…could there be an easier choice?

right2bright on June 4, 2008 at 7:41 AM

Well, I guess Romney needs a job, and governor of California is as good as any, except maybe president. And Romney should feel quite comfortable there. They have legal gay marriage just like they do in Romney’s Massachusetts. Maybe one day the repubs will wake up and find a real conservative. Until then I’ll just support the Constitution party.

abcurtis on June 4, 2008 at 7:51 AM

It’s just another house – Mitt collects them like I collect iPods. If he buys houses in all 57 states, though, there may be a pattern.
sulla on June 3, 2008 at 9:53 PM

Am I the only one who remembers that Schwarzenegger tried to start governing as a –fiscally at least– conservative?
silverfox on June 4, 2008 at 12:26 AM

I remember. And I weep for the Governator that was. Now he’s just another girly-man Kennedy.
sulla on June 4, 2008 at 12:38 AM

His alliance with the Kennedys have never been subtle. More than likely, the Governator was a ploy from the onset to further demoralize the GOP. Play hard ball LIKE a tough guy until it gets tougher than comfort permits; role play make believe, roll over and give the liberals what they want. “I tried” doesn’t cut it, Arnie. Scared to be shown up by a better man than yourself?

Romney loves his family immensely, and won’t be hurting CA with his company. This AP thread fuss seems primed to rebuff Mitt’s happy family with recycled hard feelings suffering a sour grape syndrome. Hey, give the Romneys their due in life for accomplishing and appreciating a good family.

maverick muse on June 4, 2008 at 8:01 AM

McCain needs someone who nails the business/economics side of the ledger. I’m no huge fan of Romney but he certainly understands this area and I would turn him loose like Sherman on Georgia.

Unfortunately, McCain is no General Grant…more like a George McClellan.

moxie_neanderthal on June 4, 2008 at 8:37 AM

One of Mitt’s sons currently lives here in San Diego. I’d love to see him come out here as well. Mitt for VP!!!

davenp35 on June 4, 2008 at 9:20 AM

Romney probably wouldn’t be a good VP choice because lots of evangelicals are hung up on his Mormonism, but McCain should hire him as economic advisor now, and Treasury Secretary if he wins.

Steve Z on June 4, 2008 at 9:58 AM

You weren’t successful in poisoning the well.

JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 5:44 AM

Thanks. It’s really great to see that.

Esthier on June 4, 2008 at 10:08 AM

I don’t care where Mitt lives. I’m voting for him in the general. Write-in. cjs1943 on June 4, 2008 at 1:44 AM

Let us know how that pans out.

Akzed on June 4, 2008 at 11:03 AM

I’d gladly take Mitt as Governor.

Because I know for darn certain Jerry Brown’s going to try for another run at the job. And let me tell you something. Jerry is as scatterbrained as they come. If you want to know who really runs the show, go google Ann Brown his wife. Former CEO of the Gap IIRC.

TheUnrepentantGeek on June 4, 2008 at 11:22 AM

Case Study in Projection:

Stimulus:

SaintOlaf, you’re a pathetic figure.

Entelechy on June 4, 2008 at 1:57 AM

Projection:

Interesting choice of words though…projecting alot?

No matter how wicked and stupid I think you are

I don’t care if you are a mean and bitter old maid…nor does it bother me that you hate me – SaintOlaf on June 4, 2008 at 2:45 AM

Denial:

No matter how wicked and stupid I think you are, I’ll always love you- SaintOlaf on June 4, 2008 at 2:45 AM

Response:

Next time before you insult me, you should realize that I am someone who will always be there to help you,with whatever you need,when no one else will.- SaintOlaf on June 4, 2008 at 2:45 AM

Suppressed Aggression:

No matter how wicked and stupid I think you are, I’ll always love you, I’ll never abandon you and I’ll always forgive you-SaintOlaf on June 4, 2008 at 2:45
AM

There is love, and then, there is another kind of love

entagor on June 4, 2008 at 11:22 AM

I’m sick of people citing Utah as a place where people voted for Mitt only because he was a Mormon. IIRC, Romney, Huck, and McCain were the only R options. Like hell we were voting for Huck, and judging by the general enthusiam for McCain, does it really suprise anyone that Romney did so well here?

melda on June 4, 2008 at 12:09 PM

SaintOlaf on June 4, 2008 at 12:02 AM

It was this comment which prompted me to send you the note. I tolerated your 11:23 PM one fine.

Compared to you, I have the capacity to grant and tolerate all others’ religion or non-beliefs. I truly believe in our freedom of religion in America, including yours.

SaintOlaf on June 4, 2008 at 2:45 AM

This has proven my point beyond any shred of doubt.

I’m neither an old maid, nor wicked, nor stupid, the latter by account of all around me, and what I do for others and my accomplishments. I’ll let them speak to that.

You, on the other hand are a truly pathetic person in all regards.

Thank you for your ‘help’, but no thanks. My adversaries are lovelier than you, and more reliable in moments of need. Don’t bother telling me next that you continue to pray for me. It would be futile for you make such claims. Go pray for yourself, because you really need it. You give all the other religious folks a bad reputation, if we wouldn’t know better.

All of what JiangxiDad said, +1.

Mr. Romney, and all the Mormon people I work with in hospitals are a delight and you don’t even deserve to walk in their shadow. But they would help you any moment. I can vouch for that. And before you go into a personal tirade about that, no, I’m not Mormon. I, however, respect all people, regardless of their relgion, sex, color, background, or whatever makes them unique, or common for that matter.

Entelechy on June 4, 2008 at 12:57 PM

entagor, thanks.

Entelechy on June 4, 2008 at 1:00 PM

maverick muse on June 4, 2008 at 8:01 AM

Solid point about Arnold. In hindsight, it might have been better to let Gray Davis continue to destroy California, fill out his term, and let the CA voters go back to Republican leadership the way nature intended. Two terms of Davis would have guaranteed a generation of GOP rule.

sulla on June 4, 2008 at 1:14 PM

JiangxiDad on June 4, 2008 at 5:44 AM
entagor on June 4, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Entelechy on June 4, 2008 at 12:57 PM

Well said, each of you. Far better than I’ve managed.

It’s no doubt wasted on the likes of Olaf, which is a pity.

sulla on June 4, 2008 at 1:31 PM

Entelechy on June 4, 2008 at 12:57 PM

clap clap clap, well said and thank you.

Conservative Voice on June 4, 2008 at 1:58 PM

I have no idea what Mitt Romney’s intentions are if he does not get what he wants in this Presidential election, but I would happy to see him run for and win any of the following:
Governor of California,
Governor of Michigan, or
US Senator from Massachusetts.

He would be doing our country a great service if he were to do so.

Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Of course Romeny’s not going to run for CA. governor..but I must admit it’s a hilarious post:

A ham-handed ploy for the gubernatorial race? Or a ham-handed ploy to buy himself some sweet-ass beachfront property in southern Cali so he can kick it wholesome-style among L.A.’s dissolute glitterati? It’s bound to end in disappointment, Mitt!

Sometimes it’s just too hard to resist getting the romniacs all worked up in a frenzy.

SaintOlaf on June 4, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Oh BTW Jiangxi,

I know you(like many people) are under the false impression that love is some gooey emotion..but the truth is, it’s not.

It’s an action not an emotion.

Say you run across your worst enemy dying in a ditch..if you help him..that action is love. You don’t have to like the guy.

SaintOlaf on June 4, 2008 at 2:38 PM

SaintOlaf, be kind.
It’s great that you know Biblical truth, and it’s great that you want to share Biblical truth, but unless you speak the truth in love, no one wants to hear what you say.

but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ—

Ephesians 4:15

And how do you speak the truth in love? What is love?

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.

Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.

When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

1 Corinthians 13

Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 2:43 PM

when the GOP faithful finally embrace Huckabee’s special brand of Christian collectivism.

posted at 8:53 pm on June 3, 2008 by Allahpundit

It doesn’t matter if AP was being facetious or not; that’s probably about the nicest thing that he has ever said about Mike Huckabee.

I like to get to primary sources (or as close as possible to it) when trying to discern what a candidate said or meant. I don’t like to have someone else put their spin on it and tell me what they think the candidate said or meant. I had to dig a bit, but here is the write-up done by the people who actually interviewed Mike Huckabee. (By the way, actually interviewing Mike Huckabee is something I asked the HotAir staff to do as far back as February, but it hasn’t happened yet.)

The seattlepoliticore.org write-up has a fair number of typos, occasionally making it challenging to read, but it is still worth reading.

Some highlights:

“Fred Thompson’s presence took votes from me. We would have won by 10 points had Fred not been in the race,” he said. “We would have won handily in South Carolina, but because the conservative vote split, in essence, three ways, and even though I had more than Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney combined, the fact is, their presence kept me from the two points I needed to beat John McCain in South Carolina.” (he lost 29.9 percent to McCain’s 33.2 percent)

Despite McCain’s Jan. 8 New Hampshire win, “[he] had said that if he lost South Carolina, he was quitting. Instead, he won South Carolina, and so he goes on to get the nomination.

South Carolina was a turning point for McCain in 2000 when he lost to Governor George W. Bush there. McCain got so angry that he gave his “Agents of Intolerance” speech shortly thereafter. He wasn’t going to let it happen again. Fred Thompson was McCain’s stalking horse for South Carolina.

Fred Thompson accomplished his mission of helping McCain defeat Huckabee in SC, and quit the race 3 days later. He got in late and left early. He wasn’t in it to win it, he was in it to help McCain win it. Other HotAir readers have come to the same conclusion.

What can people like yourself do to overcome these sorts of media narratives?

“Direct to the consumer. The great thing about the Internet is, the best way we found to counter the nonsense we dealt with was to put on our own Web site the truth,” he said, adding that he had nearly 600 dedicated volunteer bloggers writing for his campaign.

“We’d turn those bloggers loose, and they’d fill up cyberspace and go to town. People wondered how did we get where we did. We a tenth of the money these other guys had. We were spending a dime to their dollar. What they never understood though, was that we had more web hits to our site than we Barack Obama, than Hillary Clinton, than John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, than Mitt Romney.

“We were far and away the most-hit Web site out there on the political campaign, and we created, in essence, an online community that became the backbone of our entire campaign and candidacy.”
“The great thing is, it’s changing the face of politics, the traditional and conventional wisdom, and the one I went up against like a buzz saw was this ‘money equals viability’ [argument]. If money were the criteria by which a person was the nominee, Mitt Romney would definitely be the nominee.

Now, those bloggers were bloggers on http://www.mikehuckabee.com, not elsewhere on other blogs (as McCain recently tried to encourage with his point system for people who go out and blog for him on other blogs…HotAir included). Before anyone accuses me of being a “blogger for Huckabee”, I challenge anyone to find a pro-Huckabee comment of mine from earlier than February 8, 2008. I was using the login name ITookTheRedPill at that time. (For anyone unfamiliar with why it changed to Red Pill, read this.)

My pro-Huckabee comments began only after:
1) Mitt Romney suspended his campaign, and
2) The Holy Spirit told me that Mike Huckabee will be the next POTUS.

“A lot if polls are showing that there are a number of evangelical white voters who are willing to go shopping this fall. They’re not necessarily just sold.”
He pointed to the recent special election in Mississippi that saw Republican Greg Davis lose to Democrat Travis Childers

“That was a very, very telling election,” he said. “The Democrat ran as a pro-life, pro-family, conservative Democrat. The Republican painted his opponent as a liberal and ran on economic issues alone. He ran a good campaign — he is pro-life — but he didn’t focus on that. He focused more on ‘my opponent is a liberal … and people we’re looking at this Democrat and they’re saying, ‘well, he’s pro-life, he’s pro-gun, he’s pro-God, that’s not ‘liberal.’ And so it hurt the credibility of the Republican and the Democrats are winning all over the country.”

Hucbabee said that the Democrats have recruited “middle-of-the-road, right-of-center Democrats,” he said.

“They’re going after people that don’t scare the daylights out of traditional conservative people, and they’re running on the very platforms that the Republicans have had to themselves for the past 20 years.

“It’s a wake-up call to Republicans. Where we’re making a mistake is a lot of Republicans are saying, ‘we don’t want to talk about these family issues anymore.’

“Well, guess what? You’re going to keep getting beat, because that’s what got these people voting for you. Twenty years ago, these were Democrats who went Republican when the Democrats made a sharp left turn, and the Republicans were the only place pro-life people could be. Now the Democrats are beginning to come back to [the] center, and the Republicans are becoming libertarians. We’re losing elections in a grand way.”

Red Pill on June 4, 2008 at 3:52 PM

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