Shocker: Pfleger hates America, too! Update: The connecting thread

posted at 7:45 am on June 2, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

How many coincidences can people buy about Barack Obama’s circle of friends? First we have Jeremiah Wright sermonizing that God should “damn America”. Next, we find out that Obama worked with and for William Ayers, the unrepentant domestic terrorist, who believes along with his wife Bernadine Dohrn that America is a “monster”. Now another member of his Chicago circle. Father Michael Pfleger, thinks that “America is the greatest sin against God”:

Let’s see Bernadine Dohrn from last November once again:

And here’s Ayers in 2001, doing the Old Glory Boogie:

And the original Jeremiah Wright version:

Having one “crazy uncle”, as Obama noted in March, might be enough to excuse anti-American ravings, even if that “crazy uncle” was the pastor of the church to which Obama belonged for over 20 years. But the four people with which Obama chose to associate in Chicago all have the same diagnosis: anti-Americanism. For all of them, America is the greatest evil in the world, and for Dohrn and Ayers, an enemy to be destroyed. Four data points stops being a coincidence and starts being a pattern.

Pfleger’s latest rant also shows that Trinity United hasn’t gotten a bad rap. Listen to this audience cheer Pfleger when he calls America the “greatest sin against God”. They completely buy into that assessment, which belies any rationalization Obama gives for remaining a member of this church for most of his adult life. He’s backing away from TUCC at warp speed now, but Obama cannot escape the years that he associated himself enthusiastically with America-haters of the most vicious stripe.

And how closely did Obama and Pfleger get? ABC’s Jake Tapper reports:

But Obama’s relationship with Pfleger — who is the priest at a different, Catholic, church — spans decades.

In September, the Obama campaign brought Pfleger to Iowa to host one of several interfaith forums for the campaign. Pfleger has given money to Obama’s campaigns and Obama as a state legislator directed at least $225,000 towards social programs at St. Sabina’s, according to the Chicago Tribune. Pfleger appears to have been scrubbed from the Obama campaign’s page that features the testimony of faith leaders, but you can see the cached version HERE.

Obama liked Pfleger enough to make him part of his presidential campaign, and to put hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars in his pocket to fund this kind of America-hating rhetoric. That says volumes about Obama’s own radicalism, if people bother to listen.

Update: And let’s not forget the rhetoric that brought Obama into the arms of Wright and later Pfleger. In his own book, Dreams from My Father, he acknowledges the attraction of the radical demagoguery that Wright spewed then and Pfleger spews now:

“It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere … That’s the world! On which hope sits!”– Barack Obama, “Dreams from my Father,” 1995.

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Wright has already admitted that he would have a negative impact on Obama’s campaign. In his own words:

“If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me,” Mr. Wright said with a shrug. “I said it to Barack personally, and he said yeah, that might have to happen.” (Source: New York Times – April 2007)

cannonball on June 2, 2008 at 3:40 PM

they can’t seriously buy this claptrap.

leftnomore on June 2, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Yes, they can and do.

It’s the same as the brainwashing that is used in Middle East schools and homes to “teach” generation after generation that Isreal doesn’t exist and America is the Great Satan.

The children hear it at the dinner table, they hear it at school, they hear it in their church. What else whould they believe? They are also taught that anyone saying otherwise is to be shunned and viewed as a form of evil.

TheCulturalist on June 2, 2008 at 2:55 PM

Great response. The same response goes with the Anglican and his “AGW deniers are as guilty (of WHAT?) as that Austrian bastard.”

One can only hope that such rhetorical excess will cause folks to snap out of their cozy little leftist cocoons.

funky chicken on June 2, 2008 at 3:42 PM

“America,is the greatest sin against God”

This guy,Pfleger is an absolute,unabashed,pure Wacko!

This,by using the Liberal left’s standard,is Hate Speech!

You would think,during an election,and especially for Lib’s
that their message would be toned down a notch,but oh no,
full steam ahead and who gives a flying rat’s !ss what any
body thinks!

It is reassuring tho,that these idiots,who think they
represent religion,are only showing the lunacy of how
Liberals worship and how their faith is conducted!

Liberals in action before the election,and this is a taste
of whats to come,me thinks there not done hanging themselves
they definetely need a lot more rope!

canopfor on June 2, 2008 at 3:57 PM

Buy Danish on June 2, 2008 at 11:47 AM

In direct answer to your question – nothing. At least, a lot less than you do.

He is regarded as a rising star in the State Dem machine, not least because of his access to money and the little man behind the curtain who pulls the levers.

Jaibones on June 2, 2008 at 4:01 PM

I never heard of such a thing.

AprilOrit on June 2, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Can’t answer that, but if it helps, I believe that this was a Foster child, and not an adoption.

Jaibones on June 2, 2008 at 4:05 PM

These people are Barrack Obama. He has gotten where he is through the support of radical anti-American individuals and groups. They know their support will not go unrewarded.

drewas on June 2, 2008 at 4:08 PM

Too bad if Hillary drops out. I was hoping that at the last minute they could move the convention to Chicago, where all the action seems to be taking place anyway, to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the 1968 bonanza. Now that would be fun.

Annar on June 2, 2008 at 4:54 PM

My third reason moves to an even deeper level of awareness, for it grows out of my experience in the ghettoes of the North over the last three years — especially the last three summers. As I have walked among the desperate, rejected and angry young men I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action. But they asked — and rightly so — what about Vietnam? They asked if our own nation wasn’t using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today — my own government. For the sake of those boys, for the sake of this government, for the sake of hundreds of thousands trembling under our violence, I cannot be silent.

This is the quote from Dohrn’s speech where she references MLK. This was a speech he gave in April 1967 regarding his stance on the Vietnam war.

Regarding the violence of our government, just because MLK said it, doesn’t make it right. Apparently King forgot about the Soviets, the Chinese, the North Vietnamese, the Cubans, and the North Koreans to name five. As typical of the leftists, King made no distiction between the fighting for liberty and freedom and the violence of tyranny to enslave a population.

Can we say he was conflicted? His greatest contribution to our society was his fight for freedom for black men and women. But apparently, the Vietnamese people did not deserve that same opportunity for liberty.

King’s non-violent approach was effective in this country, because basically we are good people and with the framework of the Constitution to guide us will not slaughter our own people. The left-tards don’t seem to get it that tyrannical collectivists hungry for power do not operate under the same moral code.

Mallard T. Drake on June 2, 2008 at 5:07 PM

Why, if America is such an evil country, do these people live here?

ThePrez on June 2, 2008 at 5:29 PM

Why, if America is such an evil country, do these people live here?
ThePrez on June 2, 2008 at 5:29 PM

Well, I don’t know about Pfleger, but his buddy the Rev Wright drives a Mercedes and is about to move into a million dollar house, so the short answer is ‘the pay is good.’

wise_man on June 2, 2008 at 5:55 PM

Oh, I almost forgot. Pfleger gets 40 thousand dollars a week.


Pfleger has said he will set up shop across the street if forced to move, telling 400 supporters, “You [church leaders, read Cardinal George] are going to have to have the balls to fire me.” And of course he would, taking his well-heeled congregation and its $40G-a-week donation with him, not to mention fomenting unrest to beat all. He would make it a mistake for George to even show up in that neighborhood. He wanted his very excitable followers to “snuff” a gun dealer. Would he stop at an eminence?Chicago Daily Observer April 20, 2008

Not bad, eh?

wise_man on June 2, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Great job connecting the dots, Ed.

LegendHasIt on June 2, 2008 at 6:13 PM

40 Gs? Criminy, the bishop better check that out. How downtrodden could the parishioners be if they can buy Mercedes and big houses and piles of cash for their pastors?

PattyJ on June 2, 2008 at 6:49 PM

Not bad, eh?wise_man on June 2, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Uh…maybe you understand this, but I can’t tell. If they’re right about “$40g/week” they’re talking about total giving to St. Sabina, which I find nearly inconceivable anyway.

“Well heeled”? That dump is at 79th and Racine – it’s a war zone. They are in a school conference where the other schools hate to go there for basketball games or other events, because the parents won’t go to that neighborhood.

Jaibones on June 2, 2008 at 7:16 PM

PattyJ on June 2, 2008 at 6:49 PM

You’re confusing Trinity with St. Sabina. Trinity has nearly 10,000 active members; it’s a monster church. St. Sabina is a little parish church in a rough area.

Jaibones on June 2, 2008 at 7:18 PM

Well, I don’t know about Pfleger, but his buddy the Rev Wright drives a Mercedes and is about to move into a million dollar house, so the short answer is ‘the pay is good.’

wise_man on June 2, 2008 at 5:55 PM

One last thought on the matter: Wright might drive around in a Mercedes, but he’s cheated those people honestly, and he deserves it. As for his “million dollar house”, I’ve seen it, and it didn’t cost anyone a million dollars.

It’s in Odyssey, a golf development in the corner of Tinley Park, an otherwise older and nearly all-white suburb, sw of Chicago. The development is unattractive at best, and borders on a very middle income area of Matteson, a landfill, and an outdoor concert venue. Across the street is the strip mall where the 6 ladies were murdered in Lane Bryant.

The house is just a big, ugly dump, and is owned by the church, not Wright. He gets to live there free, apparently, but even if they gave it to him remember that he built that church. These are the material values that the mega church ministers actually value, not eternal life and the word of God.

Mercedes-Benz cars and large, ugly homes with concrete lions on the front sidewalk and landfills on the horizon.

Jaibones on June 2, 2008 at 7:26 PM

The Europeans, who are oh-so sophisticated, have attitudes toward Gypsies that would horrify most Americans.

Yes but are Americans horrified that the Gypsies routinely steal babies and sell them on the black market or do they just not know or not care?

aengus on June 2, 2008 at 9:28 PM

These are future Cabinet members, folks

ToddonCapeCod on June 2, 2008 at 10:39 PM

Chicago also has another church that harbors Illegal Aliens and their Anchor Babies. Does the name Adalberto Methodist Church and their illustrious Stalinist pastor “Slim” Coleman? Remember them? How many “earmarks” has B. Hussein Obama gotten for ol’ “Slim”???

DfDeportation on June 2, 2008 at 11:29 PM

“It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere … That’s the world! On which hope sits!”– Barack Obama, “Dreams from my Father,” 1995.

Our party fights for jobs and economic security, a decent and rising standard of living, peace, justice, equality, a sustainable environment, gay rights, health care, education, affordable housing, the needs of seniors, democracy, and a fulfilling life for everyone, with socialism as our goal. Only through the abolition of the capitalist system and the socialist reorganization of society can exploitation of human beings by others, and the evils of oppression, war, racism, environmental degradation, and poverty be ended. We seek to build a socialist society which puts people and nature before profits.

We focus our efforts on increasing our ability to organize millions into struggle, fighting anti-communism as a divisive weapon of the capitalist class. With Marxism-Leninism guiding our actions, the Communist Party strives to build the broadest unity against global capitalist imperialism now headed by U.S. imperialism, for immediate gains and reforms that benefit working people, and for a progressive democratization of the government, the economy, and society of our country on the road to and after winning socialism.

-From the Preamble to the Constitution of the Communist Party USA

Brings new meaning to Barack’s 1st job as “Community Organizer”, doesn’t it?

Every fiber of Obama’s being is Marxist.

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 1:28 AM

Oh, but I guess my anti-communism makes me “divisive”. I’m the divider and Obama is the uniter, right?

Here’s a taste of reality, Barack ObaMARX…
Socialism does not end poverty. It only ends the “American Dream” of unlimited opportunity where you can rise from poverty to wealth in a single generation.

Socialism consolidates power and wealth in the hands of a limited class of tyrants. Socialism ends the freedoms that are meant to be protected by our Constitution. (That’s why the Communists have their own Constitution…it’s meant to replace our current Constitution).

For you have the poor with you always, but Me you do not have always.

Matthew 26:11
Mark 14:7
John 12:8
(Perhaps repeated three times so that we get the message)

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 1:44 AM

For you have the poor with you always

For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.

2 Thessalonians 3:10

Red Pill on June 3, 2008 at 1:47 AM

I’ve noticed over the past several years, my formerly white church is now very much a mixed/diverse church. Now I know why. Devout Christians are leaving these so called black liberation theology churches in droves. I think the problem will solve itself over time. A short time. Good Christians know full well that its impossible to mix this sort of “Wright” bitterness with Christianity. DD

Darvin Dowdy on June 3, 2008 at 8:49 AM

This is Obama’s “foundation” what his career is built upon.

…Another key supporter of Obama’s 1996 state senate campaign was Carl Davidson, a Marxist who in the 1960s had been a national secretary of Students of a Democratic Society and a national leader of the anti-Vietnam War movement. In 1969 Davidson (along with Tom Hayden) helped launch the “Venceremos Brigades,” which covertly transported hundreds of young Americans to Cuba to help harvest sugar cane and interact with Havana’s communist revolutionary leadership. (The Brigades were organized by Fidel Castro’s Cuban intelligence agency, which trained “brigadistas” in guerrilla warfare techniques, including the use of arms and explosives.)

In 1988 Davidson founded Networking for Democracy (NFD), a program encouraging high-school students to engage in “mass action” aimed at “tearing down the old structures of race and class privilege” in the U.S. “and around the world.” In 1992 he became a leader of the newly formed Committees of Correspondence, a Marxist coalition of former Maoists, Trotskyists, and members of the Communist Party USA. In the mid-1990s Davidson was a major player in the Chicago branch of a Marxist political coalition known as the New Party, whose endorsement Obama actively sought — and received — for his Illinois state senate run in 1996. Moreover, Obama used a number of New Party volunteers as campaign workers.

Obama’s 1996 senate campaign also secured the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA…

Sorry for the long post but this site has more information then most would need to understand Obama.
This is why Hlllary wants to stay in, she may have suspected people in her background, but Marxists, Communists, of this caliber, would be difficult to find

right2bright on June 3, 2008 at 9:36 AM

Though it’s bad manners, I don’t mind saying “I told you so.” Back in February I wrote my analysis of Obama’s upbringing and concluded that he was possibly a neo-Marxist Trojan Horse, but at the very least immersed in radical culture.

Add to the Wright, Pfleger, Ayers, and Dohrn connections the possible connection between Michelle Obama and Hatem al-Hady, fundraiser for Hamas and al Qaeda, and you have a case for saying that Obama is still very much part of the radical culture in which he was raised.

Alan Keyes actually called this one back in 2004. Obama’s not a Democrat. He’s a neo-Marxist.

philwynk on June 3, 2008 at 10:16 AM

… Mercedes-Benz cars and large, ugly homes with concrete lions on the front sidewalk and landfills on the horizon.
Jaibones on June 2, 2008 at 7:26 PM

For Wright (large, ugly homes with concrete lions on the front sidewalk and landfills on the horizon.) …. it might be a huge step up.

wise_man on June 3, 2008 at 10:33 AM

where white folks’ greed runs a world in need”– Barack Obama, “Dreams from my Father,” 1995.

This should be printed on tee shirts to be sold at Obama rallies

As the crowd crushes and mangles the tee shirt sellers the tee shirts would become collector’s items

The bloodiest tee shirt could be offered for auction on ebay

When ebay pulls the tee shirt auction, Drudge would report on the censorship

Obama could step forward and explain why his words are not offensive since he respectfully calls greedy whites ‘whites’

Rebel tee shirt makers could then offer a Michelle Obama version:

where white folks’ whitey greed runs a world in need

entagor on June 3, 2008 at 11:34 AM

How many coincidences can people buy about Barack Obama’s circle of friends?

Apparently quite a few.

Obama’s not a Democrat. He’s a neo-Marxist.

philwynk on June 3, 2008 at 10:16 AM

I’m seriously starting to wonder if there’s a difference.

4shoes on June 3, 2008 at 12:15 PM

I wonder how Dr. Martin Luther King, whom Professor Dorhn quotes so rhapsodically, would have felt about someone like her joining a group, The Weatherman, which advocated armed violence including bombings and armed robbery?

GreenBlade on June 3, 2008 at 7:34 PM

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