Video: Mom punishes son for stealing by doing what must be done
posted at 4:01 pm on June 1, 2008 by Allahpundit
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I wonder if we’ll get even one comment in this thread disapproving of this.
If we do, it won’t be from me.
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Good for Mom.
freevillage on June 1, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Wish you wouldn’t have posted this. I would have liked to see if someone did disapprove without the encouragement not to do so.
lorien1973 on June 1, 2008 at 4:05 PM
I DISAPPROVE!
Shoulda taken a belt to the little bastard first, then made him do it.
MadisonConservative on June 1, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Yup.
amerpundit on June 1, 2008 at 4:09 PM
By the way, this bit is wonderful:
Well then, that makes it all right.
MadisonConservative on June 1, 2008 at 4:12 PM
“We got to arguing, ‘n that’s when I robbed him.”
Shame is an implant, and, if this works, more power to Mom.
profitsbeard on June 1, 2008 at 4:14 PM
For doing drugs
Entelechy on June 1, 2008 at 4:15 PM
The principal at my elementary all the time. He would hang signs around the necks of the bullies and parade them around to all the classes explaining what they did and why they are such an asshats. Very effective. The smaller, picked on kids got a good laugh out of it.
thatcher on June 1, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Older, but clever story.
I wonder why the comments were closed at the HuffPoo.
Entelechy on June 1, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Good on Mom, but I wish the press had kept his name private. Local humiliation is one thing, but national/international humiliation goes too far for his misdemeanor.
RushBaby on June 1, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Plus there’s the daily punishment of being called Montavius.
alycan1 on June 1, 2008 at 4:19 PM
The funniest part is that this scenario is “newsworthy.”
Seriously though, doesn’t the mom know that this type of thing will hurt the kid’s self-esteem, rendering him hopeless in society and more likely to be a criminal? Besides, the other kid should have shared. What’s with the “it’s my iPod” attitude the other kid had anyways? This is where “private porperty” leads!
VolMagic on June 1, 2008 at 4:20 PM
I give Mom credit for tryng to do something, rather than whining about how her poor angel is a victim. But I am surprised Child Services doesn’t consider this child abuse.
RickZ on June 1, 2008 at 4:25 PM
There was another one like this in February – I’m hoping it’s the start of a trend.
Laura on June 1, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Did anyone think the photo was of Obama, first?
profitsbeard on June 1, 2008 at 4:28 PM
I think you underestimate us. For the most part, I don’t think we are that easily swayed.
The Mom’s way of handling it was OK, it’s her kid, I would have probably just cut his allowance for a month.
Maxx on June 1, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Good parenting
Better than being someone biotch in prison
Kini on June 1, 2008 at 4:39 PM
I’ve been advocating bringing back public stocks for years. Public humiliation is a powerful deterrent.
Pal2Pal on June 1, 2008 at 4:40 PM
Without disapproving of this form of discipline exactly, it is unusual, and causes me to wonder about mom, too.
Is society as a whole satisfied that this kid’s mom and dad aren’t also worthy of wearing a sign saying “I have poor parenting skills. My kid is a thief.” ?
A belt across his butt would suffice. Just sayin’.
localmalcontent on June 1, 2008 at 4:40 PM
Different strokes for different kids.
Nichevo on June 1, 2008 at 4:43 PM
A belt across the butt or a sandwich sign proclaiming your stupidity
Either way… some mamby pamby liberal is gonna claim child abuse… wait and see.
Kini on June 1, 2008 at 4:45 PM
FTFY
Laura on June 1, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Sometimes young criminals come from good families too. Good for mom. Better a little humiliation now than 25 years in prison.
rbj on June 1, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Kini on June 1, 2008 at 4:45 PM
No doubts. Bingo that.
localmalcontent on June 1, 2008 at 4:56 PM
It’s good to see examples of parents taking the initiative out there, instead of a mild slap on the wrist behind closed doors. (to avoid lawsuits) I hope this is a turning point for the young man as well as parents that see this.
oakpack on June 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM
She should have started a midnight basketball program for him.
scatbug on June 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM
I’m waiting for some lib to propose a long-term solution to this problem: supply iPods to every American (and illegal alien) so there will be no iPod jealousy and therefore no iPod-related crimes. (Taxpayer-funded program, of course.) And don’t think you’ll be allowed to keep your top-of-the-line iPod. Those who have the government-supplied Shuffles might become jealous of your 160Gig iPod Classic, so you’ll have to give that up in the interest of
Marxismfairness.aero on June 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM
I agree with the punishment 153%. But she probably shoulda punched him a couple of times for good measure. Anyway, the mother should have been similarly punished for (1) naming the poor kid Montavious and (2) having that bizarre hairstyle.
jimboster on June 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM
10 to 1 Some fool will feeeeel bad and GIVE him an
Ipod
Texyank on June 1, 2008 at 5:15 PM
It takes a village to raise a nut (so says Tim Wilson)
And if this mom has her way, her kid’s not going to be the nut.
Sekhmet on June 1, 2008 at 5:16 PM
I’m guessing Mama wouldn’t let him keep it. I wouldn’t.
aero on June 1, 2008 at 5:16 PM
It works just as well with politicians. Shamed in the public square for earmarks etc. We need more of it.
patrick neid on June 1, 2008 at 5:26 PM
I don’t have a Lamborghini, and I want one. Does anyone know who I can bully to get one? Preferably a girl, ’cause I don’t work out, and love the double cheeseburger.
Kevin M on June 1, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Mom’s gonna have to wear a placard for that…
Seriously tho, good on mom! My gawd, has it come to a point that good parenting is so rare, we actually point it out when we see it?
JetBoy on June 1, 2008 at 5:35 PM
No.
baldilocks on June 1, 2008 at 5:35 PM
The kid deserved to be punished for bullying the other kid, but I hope the mom also took some time to teach her child some lessons about personal responsibility. At 12, he’s old enough to do some after-school type jobs for cash (e.g. mowing lawns, delivering papers, etc.). If he and mom sat down and worked out a plan for him to earn and save his own money, he’d eventually be able to buy his own I-pod (and probably appreciate it a lot more too).
AZCoyote on June 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Moms rule
tblot on June 1, 2008 at 5:45 PM
This from last week in Horn Lake, Mississippi. Dad punishes son for pot smoking.
Story
Video
These kids are lucky. If I had done something like this at their age, there would have been a funeral.
Tennessee Dave on June 1, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Good for mom!
xplodeit on June 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Awesome.
29Victor on June 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM
I guess I should read the other comments before commenting.
xplodeit on June 1, 2008 at 5:55 PM
You beat me to it. :)
AteMyFoot on June 1, 2008 at 6:03 PM
I support this mother, but i would rather see public humiliation practiced more on adult law breakers, by the courts.
Concerning this link, wow that principal got on my nerves butting in where she had no business.
surrounded on June 1, 2008 at 6:16 PM
I’m glad the mother had the guts to discipline her child in public. One of the twins ran out into a parking lot in front of a car today, earning himself a swat on the bottom and a reminder of why we don’t run in parking lots. The car parked next to mine, and the old bat attempted to lecture me about ‘beating my poor baby’ in broad daylight. It’s like she’d rather hit my kid with her car than have me spank my child (on a diapered butt). Geesh. Long story short, we parents should not have to face criticism from the general public for disciplining our own children. It’s good to hear this woman recieved no negative feedback from passerbys. Bet that boy learned his lesson, and he gets to think about it this summer mowing that grass too.
As an aside, I don’t think his name is that bad. I can think of worse names to give a child (Pilot Inspektor, Apple, etc).
Anna on June 1, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Vol,
I doubt the mom is going to let this lay. Any parent wise enough to follow through with this kind of punishment is wise enough to help the child build on his self esteem in the future.
I’d tell the kid that any loser can steal when the desire strikes, but it takes a real quality person to resist that urge.
That makes him better than his contemporaries.
csdeven on June 1, 2008 at 6:18 PM
I’d bet money she did take the belt to him first!
peacenprosperity on June 1, 2008 at 6:24 PM
AP should send his iPhone to this poor child.
Wade on June 1, 2008 at 6:28 PM
Mama probably did take a belt to the kid.
thekingtut on June 1, 2008 at 6:29 PM
sweet
i ran away from home when i was 14 and when i was caught mom made me wear button down shirts and cords and hushpuppies with black socks for the rest of the year
i joined the marines 10 days after i turned 17…that showed ‘em
devadevadasa on June 1, 2008 at 6:33 PM
“He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.”
~Proverbs 13:24
Send_Me on June 1, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Y’know, I recently tried to find a teen or preteen to mow my lawn a couple times a month for me. I was going to pay $25 each time and supply the equipment (which I thought was pretty good for about an hour’s work – small uncomplicated lawn). I put notices on Craigslist and in the neighborhood community center where the young people hang out. No takers. Not a single one. Didn’t even tear a single phone number off the sheet on the bulletin board after a month. I was really amazed. Don’t kids want/need to earn money any more? I thought they’d be beating down my door in their eagerness to earn video game money. I mean, two mowings and they could afford the latest Wii game, right? I remain baffled.
aero on June 1, 2008 at 7:12 PM
That might explain his crying at the beginning of the day also, and makes it a punishment more respectful of his time: he wasn’t gonna be sitting down for the rest of the day anyway.
Seriously, this mom did the right thing, and she said why (paraphrase) “because I’m showing him how much I love him and want him to think next time.” Yep. The “creative” punishments that seemed the harshest at the time when I was a kid, I appreciate the most now: they DID make you think the next time, and mom and dad cared enough to spend time and trouble teaching you right from wrong.
inviolet on June 1, 2008 at 7:17 PM
I’ve had one show up on my doorstep a couple of times this spring. I let him do it just for having the initiative. That, and it’s getting warm.
bikermailman on June 1, 2008 at 7:17 PM
Good links Dave. Thanks
Texyank on June 1, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Yeah, it’s already VERY warm here (triple digits a few times already), so perhaps that’s why there are no takers. They don’t want to mow my lawn for the same reason I don’t want to do it. The difference is, I have an income with which to buy iPods and video games if I wish, while preteens presumably don’t.
aero on June 1, 2008 at 7:30 PM
“Just wait until your father gets home!”
tlynch001 on June 1, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Heh, haven’t seen you in a while. I was joking. I know I started off with “seriously though” but I thought the end, where I disparage private property, was a dead give away.
Oh yeah, Go Fred!!!
VolMagic on June 1, 2008 at 7:51 PM
DSS would be screaming here in Ma. if someone did that, But I say hooray for Mom!!!
Viper1 on June 1, 2008 at 7:54 PM
I’d have to say yes to that.
I hear ya. I’ve decided to stop worrying what people might think or say to me if I ever have to discipline my kids in public. Esp. when it involves safety. And woe to the person who does say anything!
4shoes on June 1, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Maybe she could handle Fr Pfleger too? What a great mom!
Irenaeus on June 1, 2008 at 8:22 PM
I disapprove! The lettering on the sign is not large enough.
NotCoach on June 1, 2008 at 8:27 PM
As a young mother it took me a few years to learn the value of shame. If kids are ashamed of themselves when they do something wrong, that is half the battle of getting the behaviour changed.
EJDolbow on June 1, 2008 at 8:31 PM
No. No. No.
It’s like this:
“The belt is here waiting for you if you take the sign off and leave the streetside. It will be used until you get yer’ ass back out there. “
Saltysam on June 1, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Good for Mom. Even though the school punished the kid, Mom added to the punishment and is taking responsibility for teaching her child right from wrong.
Hog Wild on June 1, 2008 at 9:42 PM
It will take him 20 years for him to finally thank his mom for the tough love. I was in my early thirties, becoming a parent, when I was finally able to look back and realize how thankful I was for my mom and dad. They were tough, really tough. And I thank God they were. I thanked my mom. Sadly, my father passed away before I could thank him. Back then, I think this mom’s punishment would have been normal, and more easily accepted. But given today’s atmosphere, I think this mom deserves a medal for doing the right thing.
Over30 on June 1, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Good thing he’s not living under shari’a law, huh?
Connie on June 1, 2008 at 10:10 PM
He’ll thank her some day. With a diploma in his hand.
Sekhmet on June 1, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Connie on June 1, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Connie knocks it out of the park.
Saltysam on June 1, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Personally, I would have found this very hard to do to my son when he was younger. Oh, I would have punished him alright. But I’m not sure I’d make such a public display. Then again, I never had a son who bullied a kid for his iPod. Maybe it’s when a mother (possibly a single parent, for all I know) has to go to these extremes when there’s more than an iPod involved.
If he never does it again, it will have been worth it. My question is, if it’s not enough later on, and his pals pressure him into bigger things when he gets older, can she keep turning up the heat?
manwithblackhat on June 1, 2008 at 10:25 PM
This guy will worship the ground his mom walks on later. Conversely, everyone I know who had permissive parents despises them later on–they realize that mom and dad didn’t love them enough to be bothered.
baldilocks on June 1, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Nonsense.
awake on June 1, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Was the illiteracy of the sign part of the punishment? “Now mom want the public. . .”
Do the people who think this is a fine way to discipline a child also dig the mom’s taking a victory lap on the local news? Was that done out of love, too?
bokonon42 on June 1, 2008 at 10:44 PM
baldilocks on June 1, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I can vouch for that. I could tell you a hundred stories, but I’ll spare you.
Saltysam on June 1, 2008 at 11:18 PM
That would be one of those little Ipod Numnahs, right?
Shy Guy on June 1, 2008 at 11:44 PM
This is like something from Red China’s Cultural Revolution. Not like it’s a bad thing. Just sayin’
Travis Bickle on June 2, 2008 at 12:08 AM
I like it.
io on June 2, 2008 at 1:22 AM
Islam is very liberal. When it comes to theft, they have a hands-off attitude.
Shy Guy on June 2, 2008 at 1:39 AM
SAY NO to the I-POD GAP!
Good for Mumsy…she likely knows there may be a bad crowd within the neighborhood that he would end up in, unless she did something he would remember. Doing this would solve two things. Teaching him a lesson he will never forget, and letting any thug-wannabe in the neighborhood know that Mumsy means bidness!
91Veteran on June 2, 2008 at 1:44 AM
I’ve probably heard variations.
baldilocks on June 2, 2008 at 2:25 AM
My only criticism of Mom is that she needs to print bigger and more clearly. It is hard to read that board from a passing car.
The “D” hat is a beautiful touch, though.
gridlock2 on June 2, 2008 at 6:53 AM
The modern variation of the cone “dunce” hat. LOL I love old fashioned moms.
inviolet on June 2, 2008 at 7:42 AM
Damned straight. I’d've kicked a new crack in that bastard’s ass.
Virus-X on June 2, 2008 at 9:07 AM
Fixed it…
What my wife and I hear all the time is “Wow, what great kids you have!” This usually follows them observing our boys ask say “excuse me” when they want our attention while we are speaking with someone, or that they ask permission to have candy/cookies/etc prior to eating something good for them. The people that say this are often parents of children who have absolutely no self control and have never been provided with a framework for proper behavior. They come from the school of “thought” that all things in life are related to luck. You are lucky if you do well in school, have a good job, have well behaved children, etc. They just don’t get it. It isn’t that they are “bad”. They are just clueless. I could give some more specific examples of stupid parent tricks that I observed just this weekend at a local park, but I’ll spare myself and ya’ll from the blood pressure raising details.
TheCulturalist on June 2, 2008 at 9:18 AM
FINALLY!!!!
sharinlite on June 2, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Most of my son’s problems (drugs, alcohol, stealing Mom’s car) occurred in his first two years of high school. His mother left me when he was five. And although I had joint custody, in Virginia that’s pretty meaningless. So while he was going through all this stuff, and was virtually estranged from me, I would call the school nearly every week. I’d call his teachers. I’d visit them without him knowing. I always knew what was going on, and he couldn’t figure out why. And while I was powerless during that time, it didn’t last forever.
By the time he finished his junior year, he was a recovering alcoholic, and told me in a rehab session that he wanted me back in his life. Because I had been following him stealthily for two or three years, I already knew what to do. That summer, we went to Seattle, which was sort of his “vision quest.” When he started senior year, he signed up for philosophy. This didn’t sit well with me, being an “old-school” Catholic. So I taught him philosophy too, with taped lectures, and homework assignments. In his first quarter, he was an “A” student for the first time since sixth grade. He read Plato’s Republic, he read Tolstoy, he read De Tocqueville — all without them being assigned.
After working for a couple of years, he’s completing his first year as an honor student (well, most of the time) at the Art Institute. He works full time on top of that — ironically, as a bartender. Ironic, because he celebrated his sixth anniversary of sobriety a few weeks ago.
Only a clueless society raises clueless kids. They desperately want our attention, whether they admit it or not. There is a particular challenge facing African-American families today, and it’s not poverty. Generations of poor managed to avoid lives of crime and depravity. It’s the caché that’s associated with the “ghetto” mystique. Kids in the suburbs, in homes worth over 500K, are acting like they’re deprived, and it’s simply ridiculous.
But in our usual fit of PC, we buy into it. (Well, not you guys.)
manwithblackhat on June 2, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Your story brought a tear or three…
I’m very happy for the both of you.
You are 110% right about what is needed.
TheCulturalist on June 2, 2008 at 1:55 PM
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