Rasmussen: McCain winning the trust of voters
posted at 11:30 am on June 1, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Rasmussen’s latest polling shows John McCain maintaining voter trust on the key issues of the upcoming presidential campaign despite getting much less earned-media coverage than his likely opponent, Barack Obama. On economics, national security, and especially on Iraq, McCain has kept ahead of Obama:
When it comes to the economy, 47% of voters trust John McCain more than Barack Obama. Obama is trusted more by 41%. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey also found that, when it comes to the War in Iraq, McCain is trusted more by 49% of voters. Obama is preferred by 37%. McCain has an even larger edge—53% to 31%–on the broader topic of National Security. These results are little changed from a month ago.
Obama enjoys a 43% to 39% advantage when it comes to government ethics and reducing corruption. McCain has a 44% to 38% advantage on taxes.
This shouldn’t come as much of a surprise. As Rasmussen notes, a majority of voters oppose tax increases, and almost two-thirds oppose an increase in capital-gains tax rates. Both positions have been the central policy of the Obama campaign. With that in mind, the Democrats have a built-in disadvantage in November.
More surprising is the gap on Iraq. The war is not popular, and Obama seems to be on the favored side. However, Americans do not favor an immediate withdrawal and apparently don’t trust Obama to get that correct. The 12-point gap on Iraq and the 22-point gap on national security shows McCain how he can defeat Obama, and it shows why the McCain campaign has emphasized Obama’s lack of effort on both Iraq and Afghanistan to get his own information rather than just pandering to MoveOn.
Now that Obama has broken with Trinity United, it will call his judgment into question yet again. If Obama couldn’t figure out that Trinity was radical and objectionable after sitting in its pews for 20 years and only reacted after everyone else had rightly diagnosed TUCC’s demagoguery and hatred, how adept would a President Obama be at diagnosing foreign crises? Acknowledging TUCC’s issues this late underscores the growing notion that Obama is something of a dilettante, someone who goes through the motions without doing any of his own work in determining truth. Those gaps on national security will not shrink in those circumstances.
Obama and the Democrats have a big problem against McCain. Will the superdelegates start considering it, or will they surrender to the media narrative? (via Instapundit)
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Exactly. The man is clueless on foreign affairs. And no one in their right mind will ever believe that Obama stayed in that church for 20 and didn’t agree with what was being preached. The American public isn’t that gullible no matter how much MSM pushes Obama’s agenda.
katieanne on June 1, 2008 at 11:34 AM
That`s not what I hear from the MSM. Could they be lying? :)
ThePrez on June 1, 2008 at 11:36 AM
McCain trusted over BHO Zombie.
Bush trusted over McClellan Zombie.
Ferraro trusted over Michelle O.
Wonders never cease to amaze.
maverick muse on June 1, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Racist! How dare you question The Obamassiah! It’s time to put these distractions behind us and stop being divisive (by disagreeing with His positions).
rbj on June 1, 2008 at 11:42 AM
He’s a black Marxist. He’s a black rascist. He’s a black idiot. I’m done.
adamsmith on June 1, 2008 at 11:42 AM
With that in mind, the Democrats have a built-in
disadvantageDISASTER in November. Only the Dhimies could have screwed this one up. They should have had this election in a walk but they were so desperate to have a trophy black that they blew it.Mojave Mark on June 1, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Obama is inept and incompetent in nearly every respect. A more accurate interrogatory would be: How can anything he says or does be trusted?
rplat on June 1, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Wait. Wait. Americans don’t like to lose? This goes against everything I’ve ever known about this country!
Seriously, how did Democrats manage to screw-up this election? They shouldn’t even have to work hard to take this one, and here they are polling worse than the Republican nominee on top issues.
amerpundit on June 1, 2008 at 11:46 AM
To answer your question, because lots of Americans don’t understand yet that they are the target of the jihadists and the jihadists cannot be bought.
Carl in Jerusalem on June 1, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Yes, this whole thing gives me hope…It almost seems that the more the country sees and hears about Barry, the more he is starting to creep people out. But make no mistake…this election is and always has been the democrat’s to lose…only a stunning display of political incompetence and idiocy (that mirrors their incompetence governing the country), could keep them out of the whitehouse…but it may actually happen. A man can dream…
AUINSC on June 1, 2008 at 11:51 AM
But. But.
The social cons on this site tell us that tax/economic policy isn’t enough to elect a candidate.
They need to be a goofball on social issues too.
Republicans would have a never-lose majority if they stuck to economic issues (and followed through) and dropped opposition to stupid social issues. IE be a little more libertarian.
lorien1973 on June 1, 2008 at 11:52 AM
That right there encapsulates the entire driving force of the Demcocrats this year: An historic Democrat President, regardless of qualification.
Good on ya, Mojave Mark, for having the courage to say it.
localmalcontent on June 1, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Yeah, well…yeah. I’d hope those would be the results.
Except the ethics in government one…after what BO has said and done in the last few months who could think he’d be more ethical?
Bob's Kid on June 1, 2008 at 11:52 AM
At every turn, B. Hussein Obama proposes to dismantle our capabilities for making war and defending our national sovereignty. Has anybody in the MSM asked B. Hussein Obama what domestic programs would be dismantled under his administration? Would he ADD more domestic programs? If so, which would be cut and what would the added new ones be?
DfDeportation on June 1, 2008 at 11:53 AM
You can count on Obama adjusting his “immediate withdrawal” rhetoric as soon as he has his opportunity.
Saltysam on June 1, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Come on people! The dems put Baka Obama on top because they think the same way he does. And they also think we do too. They can’t comprehend the fact that so many of us disagree with them. So naturally they feel they will win. And the same was felt for Kerry, Gore, Dukakis etc. But of course that doesn’t mean the Republicans can’t screw it up.
thekingtut on June 1, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Well, then, why doesn’t McCain come right out and say “I’m pro abortion and pro gay marriage, and anti gun”
That ought to earn him all those extra votes, huh?
Saltysam on June 1, 2008 at 11:59 AM
The poll numbers look good, but only so long as Hillary is in the race. No doubt that her still fighting is pulling his numbers down.
Limerick on June 1, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Maybe not for long. Rezko should be in the news soon.
mikeyboss on June 1, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Some politicians have skeletons in their closets. Obama has a graveyard in his!
Gatordoug on June 1, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Let’s see….dead ppl votes, illegal immigrant votes, non-resident votes (one person two votes different cities/states), disqualify the military vote, the convict vote, and maybe even slashing of tires…Yeah that works!
lsutiger on June 1, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Limerick on June 1, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Supposedly pulling on McCain’s numbers a slight bit too, hehe…
stlpatriot on June 1, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Nope… many of you are missing a major point in all this.
The electorate is TIRED of Washington. They are TIRED of Politicians… and Obama’s messege of Change uses that.
Every McCain thread on here we are told that we have only two choices, Dem or Rep… ie Obama or McCain… Washington outsider talking change, or Washington Power Broker who has been part of the system…
If given that choice, a lot of the electorate will vote for a change… taking a chance on bettering things. They KNOW what they got in McCain, and don’t like it, but DON’T know what they have in Obama…
Obama is intelligently using the anger of the electorate, to get elected. This is NOT an election about issues, its an election about the disgust of the electorate.
McCain can lead on Every issue out there, and it won’t matter unless someone can change the dialouge.
Romeo13 on June 1, 2008 at 12:22 PM
yep
Limerick on June 1, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Romeo13 on June 1, 2008 at 12:22 PM
He has to win electoral votes in red/purple states. Also, he has to win back the love of all those Hillary supporters that just got raped.
Change?
You can’t fool the American people with that crap. They hear it every 4 years.
Saltysam on June 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM
“…underscores the growing notion that Obama is something of a dilettante, someone who goes through the motions without doing any of his own work…”
When has the Obamassiah ever done any “work”?
Of course, we can all HOPE that he’ll CHANGE when he wins the White House.
GarandFan on June 1, 2008 at 12:31 PM
It’s called “seven years since the last attack on U.S. soil.” “American interests” is such an abstract quantity until an attack happens, and, even if it did before the election, people might blame it on Republicans angering the rest of the world (an excuse that was obviously fallacious in 2001). Whether it’s success or luck, Republicans are cursed by the lack of attacks, as complacency returns and people can start worrying about the de facto inflation that hits a bit closer to home, and which Bush (who’s just about powerless to change such worldwide phenomena) and McCain (who’s totally powerless to change them) will be blamed for.
calbear on June 1, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Did the Rasmussen poll take into account the topic of illegal immigration and how that relates to our national security?
I’m thinking probably not.
If it had, I’m thinking neither candidate would fair well in the trust department when it comes to national security.
Both candidates seem to be just fine with letting a 12 million strong illegal army sleep inside our borders every night.
Et tu Brute on June 1, 2008 at 12:38 PM
“You may deceive all the people part of the time, and part of the people all the time, but not all the people all the time.”
Abraham Lincoln
Romeo’s Addendum:
With 60% of the electorate voting, you meed to fool 30.1% of the electorate to win any election.
So, a Politician only needs to fool some of the STUPID long enough to get elected.
Latest RCP Poll.
Obama 46.4
McCain 44.2
I rest my case. McCain’s numbers rule on the issues, but Barak is winning Nationaly.
Question is, will he be sufficiently vetted by the MSM prior to the election to show he is just another politician or not.
Romeo13 on June 1, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Expect these numbers to go McCain’s way decisively over the next few months. He’s got Obama beat by a mile on the earmarks issue, and everyone will hear about it eventually.
I thought McCain had the edge, but the more I consider it, this looks more like it could turn into a landslide. Hopefully McCain can help some conservative congressional candidates win or keep their seats.
forest on June 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM
These numbers are coming before any debates between the two nominees. You want to see a guy getting hammered, wait for McCain to clean Obama’s clock, especially on the issue that is always front and center no matter what the MSM tries to say: national security.
Bishop on June 1, 2008 at 12:50 PM
I’m wondering if there will be any debates….really am.
Limerick on June 1, 2008 at 12:52 PM
What do you mean, Limerick?
Bishop on June 1, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Exactly. That’s why Ron Paul is our nominee.
VolMagic on June 1, 2008 at 12:56 PM
seriously?
TheCulturalist on June 1, 2008 at 1:01 PM
Thats now, but the media will spin it as how much it has “increased” since then… LOL
Chakra Hammer on June 1, 2008 at 1:04 PM
To keep his edge on national security issues, McCain needs to stop giving free advice to BO on how to take corrective action on his stances. If BO does go to Iraq to meet with Petraeus it strengthens him.
Let him continue being a petulant child, refusing to meet with commanders on the ground. Some commander-in-chief.
nyrofan on June 1, 2008 at 1:05 PM
not that HOPE and CHANGE aren’t really really awesome and cool, but can that “message” really last 5 more months? don’t Barry’s cheerleaders have to get some air? you know, cuz of where their heads must be…
TheCulturalist on June 1, 2008 at 1:06 PM
UPOD
good point
sounds like the stock market
TheCulturalist on June 1, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Ed, I’ve got good news and I’ve got bad news for you.
Good news: It would be pretty damn hard for Obama, or anyone else, to get elected president with only a 31% trust number on national security.
Bad news: Obama is ahead of McCain by 2.2% in the latest RCP averages and if he can get some national security gravitas and bona fides and stuff like that on national security by picking someone with credentials in that area as his running mate or studying up on the area considerably himself then he’ll likely win in a walk. (Usual Michelle Obama hellfire tape disclaimer, of course)
MB4 on June 1, 2008 at 1:08 PM
If Obama couldn’t figure out that Trinity was radical and objectionable after sitting in its pews for 20 years … how adept would a President Obama be at diagnosing foreign crises?
Imagine his total SHOCK when he finds out that we’ve at war with N. Korea for over 50 years!
Tony737 on June 1, 2008 at 1:10 PM
He has already shown the ability to duck debates with Hillary. Don’t see any reason he won’t try with Johnny Mac too.
Limerick on June 1, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Romeo13 on June 1, 2008 at 12:40 PM
I’m not really arguing the case with you. I believe your point is valid; however, I also think your analysis is a caught-up-in-the-moment point of view.
My point, if you’ll allow it, is that the “change” won’t fly without an issues approach (observe the trend during the Democratic primary since March). For instance, its hard for me to believe that he is not going to adjust his “immediate withdrawal” rhetoric in an attempt to win this election. That will be interesting to watch him spin.
There is another piece of this puzzle that I’m curious about. How many Hillary supporters (the popular majority at this point) just got shown how their wonderful MSM really works? I suspect a lot of them are shaking off a long bout of denial. They, of all people, will be a difficult bunch (for awhile anyway) for the MSM to stroke.
Saltysam on June 1, 2008 at 1:13 PM
“Obama and the Democrats have a big problem against McCain. Will the superdelegates start considering it, or will they surrender to the media narrative?”
I don’t care what the superdelegates do. I just want McCain to win. We need to finish the mission in Iraq.
We gave our word to the Iraqi People. Our Soldiers gave their word to the Iraqi’s also. I’m sorry, but I thought keeping your word meant something to most Americans.
Now that America is starting to see that victory is possible in Iraq they will take that over surrender or a defeat any day.
Americans are winners. We say what we mean and mean what we say. That’s always who we have been when we have principled leaders running our country.
Americans want to win the war. Obama and the rest of the party of defeat and surrender gambled on failure.
They chose unwisely. They chose to bet against our Soldiers who they claim to “support” but not support their mission.
The US Military is giving the surrender monkeys the hairy middle finger.
Our Soldiers are living “yes we can” as in yes we can win.
If Obama and the rest of the party of defeat want to lead then they need to learn from those who are most qualified to lead. Those who lead by example.
Our all volunteer military that is full of engineers, accountants, architects, businessmen, CEO’s, coaches, police officers, fire fighters, carpenters, lawyers, judges, car mechanics, biologists, scientists, artists, managers, entrepreneurs, etc. who are teaching the Iraqi’s and Afghans how to be leaders themselves and most importantly build free nations where you can dream and accomplish anything even when the chips are down and everyone is calling attention to your own pending doom and failure, including those who are supposed to be your leaders.
They persist until they succeed. They do it with honor, integrity, courage, determination, fortitude, skill, precision, love, compassion, trust, empathy, service, etc.
No, the democrats will not win the Presidency this November. They do not have the courage, honor, integrity, fortitude, determination, nor have they shown that they are competent to hold the most difficult job in the whole world. They gambled that America would lose the most important conflict of the 21st century. Their gamble is not paying off and every day things get better in Iraq the Democrats will continue to suffer as they should for their stupid and unconscionable gamble against our military. Their actions against our troops along with the liberally biased media will cost them dearly in November.
I think former military leaders are the most qualified and humble people to be president. ESPECIALLY during a war. Most Americans feel this and we all just need to get used to saying and hearing President McCain.
Corey Wayne on June 1, 2008 at 1:15 PM
ummm, this is for the Presidency. He was able to duck her only after it became pretty clear that he was going to be more harmed than helped by additional debates. It is silly to think that he can avoid debating McC all the way until November. It isn’t even remotely possible.
TheCulturalist on June 1, 2008 at 1:17 PM
That assumes that he didn’t agree with Trinity’s ideology. Personally I don’t see that as reality.
docdave on June 1, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Well said.
TheCulturalist on June 1, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Oh, I agree we will see a shift on Iraq, and its already started now that he has milked the Anti War left of all its possible campaign contributions (I’ve said this in multiple other posts…).
My point is that a log of the electorate is still pissed off, and will remain so unless the ENTIRE Republican party can put forward a positive messege, which they are not.
On the Hillary front, its going to be interesting to see who looses more of their base… McCain due to border and Green issues, or Obama and the woman vote… don’t know the answer, but its an interesting question.
Romeo13 on June 1, 2008 at 1:21 PM
I’d say that the 31% are those that don’t care or
are super ignorant when it comes to national security.
After all, They are “daydream believers”.
Texyank on June 1, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Romeo13 on June 1, 2008 at 1:21 PM
You certainly won’t see me trying to guess.
I often wonder, if HA had a system for HAers to flap our wallets as much as we flap our mouths, what would the percentage drop be for prophetic comments?
1. 10%
2. 50%
3. Or this?
Saltysam on June 1, 2008 at 1:31 PM
That sounds an awful lot like some speech that a H.S. football coach would give. I think it’s going to take a “little” more than that.
MB4 on June 1, 2008 at 1:37 PM
1859-1959: number of Presidential Debates = 0
1964: No debates
1968: No debates
1972: No debates
since Ford/Carter we have the average 3 debates. If Barak pulls out of the Dem nomination in Denver with a sizeable lead in the polls there is no reason for him to debate McCain.
Limerick on June 1, 2008 at 1:38 PM
It’s kind of like Jesse Jackson is more trusted than Al Sharpton. Please who trust either of them are indeed desperate. We are so screwed for the next four years.
orlandocajun on June 1, 2008 at 1:41 PM
McCain needs to put together his “Contract with America”, a short punch list of his priorities.
His bona fides already include earmark reform, the war on terror, judicial nominees, and maintaining the Bush tax cuts past 2010. Add in small government bias, border enforcement, fair and free trade with calls for ethanol reform. Leave out social issues for the most part. We already know where he stands on such issues–plus– independents could care less about hearing them again. Rather than running from Bush he should concentrate on the Congress and Senate, repub and dem, for their casual disregard for the public purse. He should, on every occasion, call it a national disgrace. Promise to veto, early and often. He does that, he should be fine. Aside from the cranks here, he is believable on these issues. Keep it short, keep it simple.
His VP pick probably makes or breaks this election with the independents—they do the electing.
patrick neid on June 1, 2008 at 1:46 PM
They will surrender. My self-interest likes that. For the country, however, it’s not good. The three will destroy the country in this ascending order:
Obama
Clinton
McCain
That’s just one disclaimer. The summer is young. The fun has just begun yesterday.
Lim, I commented on HA around 2 weeks ago that Obama will not agree to any debates in the general. After the ABC defensiveness, and realization how empty he is without prepared notes, it was over. He also knows that the media would let him slide, or consider him with ‘gumption’ for not doing it, not realizing how wussified he’d appear to the public for the general.
Buying new tickets for the show…wait, E, it’s all gratis, perplexing as it is, and devastating for the country.
Entelechy on June 1, 2008 at 1:46 PM
In the practical art of politics, you must be prepared to fight at any time in the future. In the impractical art of politics, you should have been prepared quite some time ago, and it’s probably already too late. You’re screwed.
- Sun Tzu’s great nephew
MB4 on June 1, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Major correction – s/b “in this descending order”.
Note to self – think more clearly before getting so eager to hit submit button…
Most destruction – Obama
Second most – Clinton
Third most – McCain
Either way, we’re scrooooomed.
Transport to Mars needs to be sped up.
Entelechy on June 1, 2008 at 1:49 PM
nice stats.
there will be debates.
TheCulturalist on June 1, 2008 at 1:50 PM
Two ways:
1) If Iraq goes well, the liberal media will portray that as the Solution To All Our Problems, and will claim that McCain wants to waste money “fighting a war that’s already won.”
2) If something horrible happens in Iraq, the media will portray that as proof positive that we need “Change,” and it could not possibly matter less what that change happens to be.
logis on June 1, 2008 at 1:50 PM
These will be his priorities. If you don’t like them, well … … he has others.
- Groucho
MB4 on June 1, 2008 at 1:51 PM
The Obamas may have “resigned” from the church but I haven’t heard them denounce the hatemongering preachers.
JonRoss on June 1, 2008 at 1:53 PM
I’m not betting my 401k on it – the last ABC one put him on such a defensive, and exposed how nakid he is without prepared notes. His camp knows that. His problem will be wanting to have it both ways, as on all other items, not debating for this reason, and how to convince the general audience that he’s not a wussy.
Entelechy on June 1, 2008 at 1:54 PM
I see the first of the cranks are comings…..
patrick neid on June 1, 2008 at 1:56 PM
No question, he will HOPE to avoid any debates for the reasons you stated. He won’t be able to.
TheCulturalist on June 1, 2008 at 1:58 PM
TheCulturalist, you’re probably right. The least of the communicators, Bush 43, would have loved to avoid them too, but didn’t.
However, any incling of evasion on the Great Orator’s, the Messiah of our Time’s side would be viewed as weakness.
The libs have no idea what they bought. Good think no one nudged them into it. Only selves to blame…identity politics cashing in its dues.
Entelechy on June 1, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Good thing, that is.
It’s still sad how a nation of 300 million arrived at this stage in its history, from both sides of the isle.
Entelechy on June 1, 2008 at 2:05 PM
The bad news for Obama could get a lot worse if this post is true:
BREAKING NEWS: Michelle’s Whitey Problem (Thread #2)
Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/31/breaking-news-michelle%e2%80%99s-whitey-problem-thread-2/
THREAD #2 || Thread #1 is now closed.
New and dramatic developments. This is a heads up. I’ll post the news Monday morning by 0900 hours. Now I know why people who have seen the videotape say it is stunning. Barack’s headaches are only starting.
(via instapundit)
Now I know the source is seriously questionable,(Johnson is famous for his NYTimes article just weeks before 9/11 telling the world that Osama does not have the ability for a major terrorist attack in the US),But I am hearing that part of Obama’s reasoning for his Judas moves on Trinity is there is a lot more to come.
Has anybody heard more on this?
Baxter Greene on June 1, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Yes and, sadly,
yes
TheCulturalist on June 1, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Sounds like BHO’s experience as the head of Harvard Law Review. He published no articles of his own and his year resulted in the least-cited HLA in recent memory. Which might be why the HL students the following year wanted a more rigorous President of HLA.
All that (and everything since then) notwithstanding, BHO is a first class BS artist and equally as slippery as Bill Clinton. And BHO is authentically black (unlike Bill). Lots of positives there for him. McCain better do some serious damage on his own and through the alternative information channels in order to win this election.
iconoclast on June 1, 2008 at 2:13 PM
- – Lucinda, from the link supplied by
Baxter Greene on June 1, 2008 at 2:10 PM
If this is any indication of the Clinton camp fury, it’s going to be a long, hot summer.
Entelechy on June 1, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Roger Stone was just discussing on Fox the intense buzz surrounding the tape, and his own belief not only that it exists but that it’s in possession of one of the major networks.
CK MacLeod on June 1, 2008 at 2:52 PM
not a terrible shock i must say
Drunk Report on June 1, 2008 at 3:03 PM
I have to say, grudgingly, that I wish McCain-Feingold functioned a little more like FFATA (Coburn-Obama); namely, no limits + full disclosure.
Anything Larry Johnson is peddling should carry a hazard warning, like infectious waste. Don’t be a carrier. He wants Rs to do his dirty work for him. Make Hillary do it.
DrSteve on June 1, 2008 at 3:03 PM
The Superdelegates will go with Obama. They hate the Clinton compromises that attract blue collar voters.
The whole point of Democratic Politics is to allow yuppies to express their hatred/disdain of ordinary people and their values, in concert with Blacks and other minority groups (gays, feminists, etc.)
They’d rather lose than compromise, and feel they can roll anyone out there this election.
whiskey_199 on June 1, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Agreed. On the off-chance that Robert Stone (who also had the advance word on Elliott Spitzer) is right, however, that the tape does exist and is dynamite, then one of the negative side-effects may be a reinforcement of Larry Johnson’s credibility. However, that would be a small thing, I think. Hillary not baking cookies in ‘92 was bump in the road. Michelle advocating baking whiteys would be an Iranian IED on target.
CK MacLeod on June 1, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Re McCain: Are the media trying to churn news, or is there any merit to Bloomberg being on McCain’s VP short list?
If the latter, he is making a very big mistake.
onlineanalyst on June 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM
If the Democrats blow this election, considering the media, identity politics, McCain’s tendency to poke conservatives in the eye and typical GOP screwup advantages they have, will it no longer be the stupid and the evil party, but rather the stupid and stupider party?
I’ll keep my fingers crossed.
aikidoka on June 1, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Unlike McCain, Obama is not stupid enough to be advocating amnesty through “comprehensive immigration reform”. That is how Obama can beat McCain on national security. Obama, like McCain, has no interest in “securing the border first”. The electorate just doesn’t know it yet,
Valiant on June 1, 2008 at 6:54 PM
Sounds alot like valiant and the rest of the TC faction
Squid Shark on June 1, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Seriously folks, how do you think a debate between BHO and McCain will go? Don’t you think if McCain is half as hard on BHO as he was Mitt Romney, coupled with the fact that BHO is sooo green, McCain wins hands down!
kcd on June 2, 2008 at 10:44 AM
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