Clinton supporter at rules committee: “They’re throwing the election away!”

posted at 8:51 am on June 1, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Harriet Christian got tossed out of yesterday’s Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting for her vocal protests on behalf of Hillary Clinton as the Democrats decided on a compromise to seat Florida and Michigan delegates at their convention in Denver. Christian vented at the national media, which looked on with amusement as she declared her support for John McCain. Other women vowed to write in Hillary’s name in November rather than vote for Barack Obama:

After hours of emotional testimony and sometimes contentious debate, Democratic Party officials agreed yesterday on a pair of compromises to seat Florida’s and Michigan’s delegations to their national convention. But a part of the deal drew an angry reaction and the threat of a subsequent challenge from the campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The compromises by the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee called for both delegations, originally barred from the convention for violating party rules, to be seated in full in Denver but with each delegate casting only half a vote.

The actions by the committee were aimed at bringing the long and sometimes-bitter Democratic nomination battle between Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) and Clinton (N.Y.) to a close and to ensure party unity as the Democrats head into the general election. But the decisions prompted bitter and sometimes-tearful reactions from some members of the audience, who repeatedly shouted over the committee members as they voted.

Democrats wound up with a compromise that solved nothing. Obama still needs more delegates to get to the nomination than he can possibly win in the few remaining primaries. The decision to halve the vote mirrors that of the Republicans, but the method (granting half a vote to the delegates rather than halving the number of delegates) has created a second-class delegate status that guarantees bitter feelings. In the end, the Hillary campaign all but swore to take the fight to the Credentials Committee in Denver, meaning that the same argument will be fought all over again, with the same bitterness.

The Michigan compromise turned out worst of all. The RBC ruled that Clinton would win 34.5 delegates to Obama’s 29.5, despite his not being on the ballot at all. The ratio appears correct if Obama gets credit for all of the rest of the popular vote, but it’s still an impossible situation for the Democrats because of Obama’s absence from the ballot for their primary. Instead of just using the primary votes, the RBC decided to use exit polling as part of its calculation, which infuriated Team Hillary, which lost delegates as a result. They accused the RBC of “hijacking” four delegates for Barack Obama and used that as their reason to continue their push all the way to Denver.

All of this led to the rant by Ms. Christian, and her voice was not the only one enraged by the RBC decision yesterday. In truth, the DNC can’t do much to assuage either side, nor does it appear that they can close this debate before Denver. The bruised feelings this weekend show that any push to force superdelegates into commitments before the first ballot will be seen as more illegitimate machinations by the party establishment against the woman who has come closest to winning a major party nomination, and an insult to the sensitivities of her considerable faction in the party. No matter who wins in Denver, the Democrats had better prepare for large-scale defections in November.

Update: I had the name as Christiansen in the original post. Thanks to David Bell for the correction.


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Sounds like affirmative action to me.

jukin on June 1, 2008 at 3:36 PM

TOPV,
That was not only the funniest, but clearly by far the most poignant way of describing the situation. I am constantly explaining to my husband and daughters that beside the fact that I am a republican, I could never vote for Hillary because she is a woman. (Or at least plays one on TV) It’s like watching that movie that lefty hack from SNL made, Mean Girls.
Those mean girls grow up to be mean women. They don’t change.
Although I disagree hardily on the lacking of balls. Whether or not she has them, and I suspect she does, there are many woman that have huge cajones. Just not the ability to rule a whole country with them. There are many capable women, and some that come without the vindictiveness, so many of them seem to avoid the aspirations of higher political office. Just the same there are men that have that same trait running thru their bones, they just have absolutely no emotion or soul.

mauioriginal on June 1, 2008 at 3:57 PM

I see I was not the only one who appreciates the irony of giving a documentable non-person 3/5th of a vote. Perhaps the Dems should do this for illegal immigrant voters as well.

flicker on June 1, 2008 at 4:02 PM

The actual vote is close to 3/5, as the elected delegates are allowed 1/2 vote, but the unelected delegates retain their full vote, depending on exactly how that is divided up, I came out with about 3/5 of a vote for the Florida delegation (I am unsure if the three appointed, un- committed delegates get 1/2 or a full vote, 3/5 if they get a 1/2, closer to 3.5/5 if they get the full vote). Try it with Michigan, and see how it comes out.

TxRick on June 1, 2008 at 4:29 PM

But should any of this surprise anyone. This is the way Donks govern. Weird rules, layers of rules that contradict the layer before, name calling, back stabbing. This was how Billy Jeff operated and how the Donk congress is acting now.

JonRoss on June 1, 2008 at 5:38 PM

I told ya, McCain is a Dem-bo.

TheSitRep on June 1, 2008 at 6:52 PM

Ever since the 2000 election, the dems mantra has been: “count every vote.”

With their latest decision to exclude half of the Florida delegation, and award part of Michigan’s delegation to Obama, where he didn’t run, but in fact pulled his name, flies right back in their faces. What a sorry excuse for a political party! LOL, they hi-jacked themselves.

byteshredder on June 1, 2008 at 8:27 PM

The only thing that would make that video even more perfect would be if everyone around the old lady started chanting
“ECW! ECW! ECW!”

GogglesPisano on June 1, 2008 at 8:44 PM

They accused the RBC of “hijacking” four delegates for Barack Obama and used that as their reason to continue their push all the way to Denver.

You want to know why they used the word “hijacking”? The Clintonistas are mocking Obama by turning his own words against him…

Obama’s words…

But somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and started being used to drive us apart. It got hijacked.

Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.
A Politics of Conscience
Hartford, CT
June 23, 2007

…turned on him to mock him….

“There’s been a lot of talk about party unity—let’s all come together, and put our arms around each other. I submit to you ladies and gentlemen, hijacking four delegates … is not a good way to start down the path of party unity.”

Harold Ickes (Hillary’s chief delegate counter, and also a member of the Rules Committee that approved the deal)
May 31, 2008

Red Pill on June 1, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Here’s the correct link for the Harold Ickes quote.

Red Pill on June 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM

It has been amazing watching the Clintons,who democrats have spent the last decade or so telling us how smart,progressive, and the leaders of one of the greatest Presidential legacies,being torn apart by that same party and not be able to beat a guy who has done nothing and has no legacy at all.

This comment over at Justoneminute.com I think hits it right on the mark today:


Oh, to be a superdelegate fly on the carcass of the Democratic Party.

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Posted by: kim | June 01, 2008 at 09:47 AM

What a scary freaking circus all these super intelligent elitist play in.

Baxter Greene on June 1, 2008 at 10:57 PM

Hillary’s new press secretary.

hepcat on June 2, 2008 at 6:34 AM

In front of the entire country, the DNC is telling all her supporters, “girl, just lie back and enjoy it”.

Saltysam on June 1, 2008 at 9:39 AM

Damn straight. Would make a GREAT New York Post headline.

rockmom on June 2, 2008 at 8:45 AM

Hillary’s supporters are so crazy, the press is calling them frustrated and passionate.

I would recommend that they clean up a bit and find themselves some men for a change.

Believe me, they’ll feel much better.

AprilOrit on June 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM

My sister’s friend said she witnessed Harold Ickes whistling at a beautiful and well dressed Asian woman, probably was a model, on Spring Street in Soho at 10 AM in the morning back in the late 90s while waiting in line to buy coffee.

He whistled for her like she was a dog.

AprilOrit on June 2, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Ugh, she is very loud, I can assure you, we all do not sound like her. That type of NY accent is so gutteral.

She’s like a Linda Pugach character.

AprilOrit on June 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM

Obama gets awarded 29.5 delegates in an election where his name wasn’t even on the ballot. The whole thing will be decided by “super” brown shirt Gestapo NAZI’s. This is not democracy. This is a sham election. Iran has better sham elections than this. Iran could go to the UN and claim America’s elections are a sham and they would be right. How could this happen in the country I love?

Dollayo on June 3, 2008 at 2:45 AM

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