NYT: Obama waffling on diplomatic policies

posted at 11:15 am on May 29, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Some reversals are so blatant that they just cannot be ignored. Today, the New York Times deconstructs the attempts by Barack Obama to spin away from his commitment to meet terrorist-sponsoring heads of state “without preconditions”, and finds then unconvincing. The controversy threatens to define Obama as naive and unprepared for the focal task of conducting the nation’s foreign policy, and the campaign response has backfired:

With his experience and leadership credentials under sharp criticism, Senator Barack Obama and his advisers are trying to clarify what has emerged as a central tenet of his proposed foreign policy: a willingness to meet leaders of enemy nations.

In an interview on Wednesday, Mr. Obama, of Illinois, sought to emphasize, as he and his aides have done continually over the last few days, the difference between avoiding preconditions for talks with nations like Iran and Syria, and granting them automatic discussions at the presidential level.

While Mr. Obama has said he would depart from the Bush administration policy of refusing to meet with certain nations unless they meet preconditions, he has also said he would reserve the right to choose which leaders he would meet, should he choose to meet with them at all.

This equates to a diving maneuver of a backflip with a double-twist. In fact, this position differs little from current American foreign policy. Obama, as Jim Rutenberg and Jeff Zeleny note, didn’t include any such nuance in his comments during last July’s YouTube debate, nor in the days afterward:

The caveats belie the simple answer Mr. Obama gave during a debate last summer, when the issue was first raised in a major public forum. Without hesitation or qualification, Mr. Obama said he would hold direct talks with America’s enemies, drawing strong and immediate criticism from his rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York. …

Several aides immediately thought it was a mistake and sought to dial back his answer. But on a conference call the morning after the debate, Mr. Obama told his advisers that he had meant what he said and thought the answer crystallized how he differed from his rivals.

“I think that it is an example of how stunted our foreign policy debates have become over the last eight years that this is an issue that political opponents try to seize on,” Mr. Obama said in an interview on Wednesday. “It is actually a pretty conventional view of how diplomacy should work traditionally that has fallen into disrepute in Republican circles and in Washington.”

Even after Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton called his position naïve, Mr. Obama refused to shy away from it, at times speaking explicitly in terms of a potential meeting with Mr. Ahmadinejad.

So what changed? The volume and breadth of the criticism Obama has received for this position has steadily increased, especially of late. Two days ago, Richard Cohen suggested that Obama didn’t know what he said when he made that pledge and fretted over his “worrisome naivete”. As that assessment gains traction across the spectrum, Obama has attempted to reverse himself without actually admitting that he was wrong.

In this very article, Obama claims that he didn’t say he would meet the leaders of Iran, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela, and other hostile nations unconditionally. He told the Times that this accusation was a “distortion” by John McCain. However, the YouTube makes his unequivocal answer very clear:

Heck, Obama’s own website says the exact same thing:

Diplomacy: Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions. Now is the time to pressure Iran directly to change their troubling behavior. Obama would offer the Iranian regime a choice. If Iran abandons its nuclear program and support for terrorism, we will offer incentives like membership in the World Trade Organization, economic investments, and a move toward normal diplomatic relations. If Iran continues its troubling behavior, we will step up our economic pressure and political isolation. Seeking this kind of comprehensive settlement with Iran is our best way to make progress.

Obama then tried to say that he didn’t mean that he would meet with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad specifically. Unfortunately, as ABC pointed out last week, Obama confirmed that he would do exactly that three months after the YouTube debate:

Obama may want to spin out of the trap that he laid for himself in his attempt to out-clever his Democratic opponents, but his own repeated rhetoric on this point won’t allow it. Either he has to keep insisting that “without preconditions” somehow includes acquiescence to American preconditions for ending terrorist support and interference in Iraq, or he has to admit that he didn’t have a clue about foreign policy when he answered that question last summer and kept doubling down on it throughout the Democratic primaries.

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Yes, but will he talk to Gen. Petreus without preconditions?

Akzed on May 29, 2008 at 11:18 AM

Can’t I just waffle my agenda?

The Sayings of Chairman Obama.

profitsbeard on May 29, 2008 at 11:24 AM

Foreign policy is not good for Michelle’s children anymore. Off the table.

pedestrian on May 29, 2008 at 11:25 AM

I was for waffles before I was against them.

Wonder if Mahmoud likes waffles, too?

wccawa on May 29, 2008 at 11:25 AM

He turned a silly gaffe made for political advantage into foreign policy because he doesn’t know how to say “I was wrong.” Now, he’s stuck to that tar baby and his twisting, turning, and parsing, expose him even more. Hey Barry, ya gotta know when to hold ‘em and know when to fold ‘em.

a capella on May 29, 2008 at 11:28 AM

Are waffles good for Michelle’s children?

kirkill on May 29, 2008 at 11:28 AM

The sad part is that this just doesn’t matter to the millions of Obamaniacs. He might as well just go whole Hogan and rip off his shirt and declare, “What’s goin’ do America when Obamania runs wild you!”

I believe the correct answer is cling to guns, religion, and a fear of strangers, but what do I know I’m part of the great unwashed.

Mich_93 on May 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Like Mr. Obama (and many others), we strongly encourage diplomacy, including contacts with adversaries. If Mr. Bush cannot use his remaining months in office to do the same, he can at least get out of the way.

That was the Times last week (via Tim Blair).

mymanpotsandpans on May 29, 2008 at 11:32 AM

The controversy threatens to define Obama as naive and unprepared for the focal task of conducting the nation’s foreign policy

More like a smart ass kid who thinks he can bluff his way out of everything, or a lawyer.

He is completely unqualified to run anything, and it’s yet another irony that the left props this chump up who has all the negative qualities they ascribed over and over and over to Bush.

Barry is an Affirmative Action candidate.

benrand on May 29, 2008 at 11:34 AM

Don’t let the facts get in the way of his coronation!!!

“See, this is what’s wrong with American Politics today. It’s all about distractions from the real problems facing the American People”.

Wow, I didn’t realize that I could be a speech writer for Obama

HarryStar on May 29, 2008 at 11:35 AM

Meet the new Bush

Same as the old Bush

Only Democrats and Benny Hinn followers would believe this is change.

drjohn on May 29, 2008 at 11:37 AM

The controversy threatens to define Obama as naive and unprepared for the focal task of conducting the nation’s foreign policy

Actually, it’s Obama that defines himself that way, every time he opens his mouth, but your point is well made. But given his utter lack of experience or qualifications, it’s really no surprise that he’s a human gaffe and rookie mistake machine.

ReubenJCogburn on May 29, 2008 at 11:38 AM

Sen. Obama needs to learn,

Only Nixon can go to China.

BDU-33 on May 29, 2008 at 11:39 AM

In the Pace Picnte Sauce commercial voice:
“The New York Times?”

abinitioadinfinitum on May 29, 2008 at 11:39 AM

Picnte = Picante

abinitioadinfinitum on May 29, 2008 at 11:40 AM

abinitioadinfinitum on May 29, 2008 at 11:39 AM

Get a rope

p40tiger on May 29, 2008 at 11:42 AM

Comrade Obama is a waffle.

tarpon on May 29, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Obama: I was for pre-conditions after I was against them.

Oh, by the way, is stopping nuclear enrichment a pre-condition, or a preparation? Or maybe just a distraction from the ISSUES. Whatever.

Talk is Barack, Action is Mac.

Steve Z on May 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM

This guy could criticize John Kerry for his staunch ‘Stay the Course’ attitude on waffles.

cntrlfrk on May 29, 2008 at 11:45 AM

We’re going to beat Iran with “ideas” and with our “principles.”

That would have worked well with Germany and Japan in WWII.

Or maybe principles and ideals would have removed Saddam from Kuwait.

drjohn on May 29, 2008 at 11:47 AM

p40tiger on May 29, 2008 at 11:42 AM

Heh

abinitioadinfinitum on May 29, 2008 at 11:48 AM

In other news, the leaders of Iran, North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela and Syria in a joint statement read from Damascus by President Assad, rejected Senator Barack Hussein Obama’s invitation to talk with them and and said that having multilateral conversations with a state sponsored of terrorism like the United States is out of the question.

The U.S. – the statement went on to say – must withdraw its troops from Iraq, Afghanistan and the entire Gulf region, must stop supporting the Jews occupiers of Palestine, must release the hostages from Guantanamo and must stop hindering any efforts by the aforementioned states to build a nuclear arsenal.

The statement concluded that without these preconditions, no talk, negotiations or normalization of relations will occur between the United States and the alliance of these nations.

There was no immediate reply from the Obama camp but in an hour-long appearance on Chris Matthews’ “Hardballs,” Mr. Hussein Obama emphasized the need to talk with America’s enemies without preconditions.

During the hour-long show, Mr. Chris Matthews looked exhausted and sweaty and his hands were nowhere to be found.

Indy Conservative on May 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Does anyone know who’s sitting next to Obama in the pic?

JiangxiDad on May 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM

What finally got under Obama’s skin about the Rev. Wright is this truth “Barack will say and do anything to win”. In spite of his faux indignation, this hurt Obama the most (politically) and the then ‘through the reverand under the bus’, for the time-being. He’ll resurect him, yet, when it will be convenient.

With all his fleas, the reverand is the more honest man of the two, no doubt whatsoever. He spoke the ultimate truth about this flawed candidate, who’s only show and no substance.

Foolishness or fakery. Which will he choose?

Both. Like actors, he’ll ascend, then descend, but at the cost of our country. The fools r us, as even Rosie would say. We deserve him fully.

Entelechy on May 29, 2008 at 11:55 AM

During the hour-long show, Mr. Chris Matthews looked exhausted and sweaty and his hands were nowhere to be found.

Indy Conservative on May 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Mr. Matthews was hindered by a viscous substance which prevented him from getting out of his chair for the longest time.

Entelechy on May 29, 2008 at 11:58 AM

Rookie of the Year

…. but I repeat myself.

or MVP, Media’s Valuable Playah

fogw on May 29, 2008 at 12:00 PM

Indy Conservative on May 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Interesting old pic of Barry Obama from CBS.

JiangxiDad on May 29, 2008 at 12:01 PM

So when exactly is Barry going to finish his waffle?

Chuck Schick on May 29, 2008 at 12:01 PM

Mr. Matthews was hindered by a viscous substance which prevented him from getting out of his chair for the longest time.

Entelechy on May 29, 2008 at 11:58 AM

I don’t wanna get in trouble with Matthews, you said it.

Indy Conservative on May 29, 2008 at 12:03 PM

What did you expect? He does have John Kerry’s endorsement!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 29, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Indy Conservative on May 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Interesting old pic of Barry Obama from CBS.

JiangxiDad on May 29, 2008 at 12:01 PM

Oh I’m sure Chris Matthews stained by now.

Indy Conservative on May 29, 2008 at 12:06 PM

stained it…

When you’re in a hurry, words fall from your sentences.

Gotta go.

Indy Conservative on May 29, 2008 at 12:07 PM

Does anyone know who’s sitting next to Obama in the pic?

JiangxiDad on May 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM

If you meant in the front of the thread photo, it’s Senator Robert P. Casey, of PA

Entelechy on May 29, 2008 at 12:08 PM

B. Hussein seems to spend a lot of his time “clarifying” himself.

Conservative_SAHM on May 29, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Entelechy on May 29, 2008 at 12:08 PM

Thank you. He’s a dead ringer for someone I know. Appreciate it.

JiangxiDad on May 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM

B. Hussein seems to spend a lot of his time “clarifying” himself.

Conservative_SAHM on May 29, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Just imagine, this guy is going to have the code to the football.

Entelechy on May 29, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Obama: Making sh*t up as he goes along. He’s a demagogue, and so ignorant he doesn’t even know he’s ignorant.

Socratease on May 29, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Another interesting photo of Barry.

Notice the ‘Relationships built on self interests’ and the rest of the chart.

I wonder what B.O. was teaching??

cntrlfrk on May 29, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Poor guy, all he wants to do is talk about the “real” issues, not the distractions (like dealing with Iran, N. Korea and Venezuela). BO wants to discuss all his wonderful plans that are listed on his website – I just wonder how he plans to pay for all that crap. Oh yeah, we will.

Rick on May 29, 2008 at 12:18 PM

abinitioadinfinitum on May 29, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Get a rope

p40tiger on May 29, 2008 at 11:42 AM

HawaiiLwyr on May 29, 2008 at 12:20 PM

hmm what happened to the rest of my comment???

I wrote “I cleaned coffee off my screen”

Better have more coffee I guess

HawaiiLwyr on May 29, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Does anyone know who’s sitting next to Obama in the pic?

JiangxiDad on May 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Casey speaks with Pakistani leaders on thwarting terrorism

During the ’06 debates, I watched Casey drop-jawed. He sounded and looked like he was drunk.

Connie on May 29, 2008 at 12:26 PM

So how come nobody has photoshopped that thumbnail of Obama eating waffles with blue-tie guy, and inserted [Dictator of choice]? Would be cool to see Obama leaning over to share a laugh with Ahmadinejad, Castro, Kim Jong-il, Chavez, or Assad over waffles.

AverageJoe on May 29, 2008 at 12:32 PM

Words…just words.

SouthernGent on May 29, 2008 at 12:32 PM

Just imagine, this guy is going to have the code to the football.

Entelechy on May 29, 2008 at 12:12 PM

“Football? I never liked football much. Too violent! Can I have a basketball instead? I like to play basketball. Do they play basketball in the White House?”

MrLynn on May 29, 2008 at 12:36 PM

In spite of the MSM worship and the general cult trappings I think we are very lucky that Obama appears to be the nominee. I don’t see any realistic way he can win unless McCain commits a really major “screw up”. As the election gets closer Obama will continue to misspeak and demonstrate both his total lack of experience and his very thin skin. If the Dems really wanted to win they would try Webb teamed with one of the “Blue Dogs”. That ticket would win in a landslide but they are either to dumb or to far left to consider it.

duff65 on May 29, 2008 at 12:44 PM

During the ‘06 debates, I watched Casey drop-jawed. He sounded and looked like he was drunk.

He’s a complete nonentity. The Scranton hillside ads for Obama were the most I’d seen of him on TV since the election. Apart from bending over backwards to call ACORN a respectable organization worthy of federal funds to conduct housing counseling, he’s done nothing of note.

We in PA could train a King Charles Spaniel to do this preening mediocrity’s job.

DrSteve on May 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM

Obama: Making sh*t up as he goes along. He’s a demagogue, and so ignorant he doesn’t even know he’s ignorant.

Socratease on May 29, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Yes, ignorant but he is reading, it may be about “The Post American World” after he destroys our country but he is a learnin

abinitioadinfinitum on May 29, 2008 at 1:26 PM

Obama: Making sh*t up as he goes along. He’s a demagogue, and so ignorant he doesn’t even know he’s ignorant.

Socratease on May 29, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Unknown unknowns. /Rumsfeld

baldilocks on May 29, 2008 at 2:37 PM

If he spends all his time with “Presidential Diplomacy” when is he going to find time to do the real job?

{^_^}

herself on May 30, 2008 at 1:18 PM