Can you imagine the stink it would cause if the Bush administration or the Republican Party even suggested this?

And that’s why America is falling apart. Invite everybody in! Every God-forsaken culture you can think of. Judeo-Christian values? We don’t want em anymore. This is a politically correct society now. Nevermind that without a strong and vibrant Christianity, America is doomed. These are not just words. This is happening as you read this.

in fact…much like Islam today.

That goes too far. Selling indulgences is hardly as bad as the sack of Anatolia.

As for the usual objections:

The Real Inquisition

The Real History of the Crusades

MB4 on May 29, 2008 at 4:27 PM

I think that “looking in” was called less secularism, and more reformation. Protestant Reformation, that is. The rise of many a philosopher in the West began through the Reformation, like John Locke and David Hume. Where do you think our Founding Fathers came from and got all their ideas??? You couldn’t separate politics and religion before the 1600′s, in fact…much like Islam today.

Hirsi Ali’s been trying to convince people of the need of an Islamic Enlightenment, but they need an Islamic Reformation first.

Back OT…I am THRILLED Germany’s doing the RIGHT THING. With SHARIA in the Iraqi Constitution, DHIMMIS are TOAST.

Entelechy on May 29, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Yes, exactly. Charles Johnson’s readership in particular has never held back when it came to demeaning Europe, including America’s loyal friend and ally Britain. When on the other hand a European country showed some sense of self-preservation (e.g. Germany) the comment section was immediately flooded with tasteful Holocaust jokes or even naïve appeals to save those poor Muslims from imminent genocide.

It was still a surprise to me that he himself chose to follow this two-pronged strategy in October of last year by smearing legitimate European right-wing parties while continuing to insist that we are all spineless dhimma.

robscottw on May 29, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Indeed.

The rise of the West had much less to do with democracy than with the rise of secularism. The West’s advance was chiefly related to the decline in the influence of religion that sought the truth by “looking in” to see what God had to say, and its replacement by looking out, deriving authority from observation, experimentation and exploration.

The inconvenient truth is that the West should be exporting secularism around the world before it exports democracy. Democracy implies not just one person one vote, but no less important, that the political process proceeds by rational means, by argument, by persuasion, and is based on knowledge that is as objective, as scientific, as one can make it. The objective knowledge has to come first.
- Peter Watson

They only want non-Muslims

Golly, I wonder why.

We’ve let them enshrine Sharia law, thats not good for women, jews, or christians.

Once the Muslim gov’t gets a firm hold of the country you’ll see it start to become more fundamentalist, not less.

That was our biggest mistake in Iraq – NOT nation-building. That is WE SHOUD HAVE gone in with the INTENTION of building a secular state and IMPOSED the 1932 Constituiton, and forced equal rights for ALL. We FORCED Germany and JAPAN to modernize their political systems and should have done the same in Iraq.

Eventually Iraq will become just another Muslim country hostile to the US/West and we’ll have spent billions and 4,000+ lives for that. What a waste.

On topic, here’s the great double standard on Europe, and Germany in particular. If they are multi-culti, PC and pacifist, they get faulted for being weak and not doing much to assure their survival. If they aren’t they get blamed.

Yes and this very same tactic is used against Israel. The parties and groups in Europe who are willing to stand up for themselves are almost all pro-Israel. That should tell us something.

On topic, here’s the great double standard on Europe, and Germany in particular. If they are multi-culti, PC and pacifist, they get faulted for being weak and not doing much to assure their survival. If they aren’t they get blamed.

We must make up our minds and can’t have it both ways.

Interesting?

OT: Orianna Fallaci Square

aengus on May 29, 2008 at 10:25 AM

How freakin great!

It is true though that Christian believers are more likely to vote for it.

GermanAtheist on May 29, 2008 at 10:45 AM

As these non-Muslims no doubt will and for generations so will their offspring. Not unlike the Blacks and Jews in America have allegiance to the Democratic party.

Texas Gal on May 29, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Her party is not a Christian party, it is a Christian Democratic party. Jews, Atheists and even Muslims are among its membership.

It is true though that Christian believers are more likely to vote for it.

Perhaps it is a shrewd move.

aengus on May 29, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Well, that’s who the refugees are … Iraqis. I think the fact that her political party is the Christian party and they want them to be non-Muslim and state they will not be treated like asylum seekers but allowed to work and encourage integration, she looking to enlarge her political party base.

JiangxiDad on May 29, 2008 at 8:40 AM

Indeed, the guest workers were always expected to leave. Chancellor Helmut Schmidt, who allowed them to reunite with their families (i.e. bring them over) now publicly regrets that.

When the Social-Democrat/Green coalition came to power in 1998, the guest worker program was declared a “life-lie” and “integration” the new goal.

After this new objective has failed spectacularly with regard to Muslim immigrants, it is not surprising that no one is interested in acquiring more of them. Now it’s just a matter of further limiting “family reunification” with imported brides and most importantly, we need to start returning them, the worst cases first (i.e. hardened criminals, long-term unemployed etc.).

I think Merkel has an ulterior motivation and it’s not really about removing the non-Muslims from Iraq, it’s about beefing up the Christian population in Germany. She’s looking at France and England and stepping up to the front of the line.

Texas Gal on May 29, 2008 at 10:14 AM

In that case its unfortunate that she choose Iraqis, even if convenient at the present time. Christians from the Middle East (sometimes called “islamochristians”) tend to be set in their dhimmitude by and large. However I have seen exceptions. Perhaps it is a shrewd move.

It might even be called a form of passive ethnic cleansing, assisting the extremists in Iraq of removing non-Muslims from Arab lands.

I think Merkel has an ulterior motivation and it’s not really about removing the non-Muslims from Iraq, it’s about beefing up the Christian population in Germany. She’s looking at France and England and stepping up to the front of the line.

Since when did that stop them?

I think the main problem is that the Republicians do not point out liberal dishonesty either because they are too timid/polite to do this or because they share the liberal beliefs of the Democrats.

Continental Europe is waking up.

Italy, especially.

England, fast asleep.

Nothing stirs.

Under the new law, anyone born to a Muslim father who decides to renounce Islam and convert to another faith, faces the death penalty.