Bush lied people died!!!

Akzed on May 31, 2008 at 10:28 AM

It has been shown that Bush didn’t lie but in my judgement at the time he did use poor judgement to take us to war, I support winning it now that we were are engaged. Of course those senators who have voted for the war resolution and have been close to becoming president, Kerry and Clinton, voted for it. Kerry has been an inveterate liar since he first became a public figure with his traitorous speeches and meetings with North Vietnam during the Vietnam war.

Aked has a good moto he just needs to make a small correction.

KERRY LIED PEOPLE DIED!!!

And “develop alternative sources” almost always means “somebody wave a magic wand, quick!”

Merovign on May 29, 2008 at 6:40 PM

You left out “quick, someone give me billions of dollars so I can wave a magic wand”…..

I think I want to join that club. Which dot-gov or dot-org do I apply at?

Most of the BIGGER companies i.e. the government companies, belong to the OPEC cartel which controls world wide production. The private companies don’t control beans in the oil business.

The real reason of the price of gas is the total lack of an energy policy. And the biggest lie of all is man made global warming.

Listen folks the only way to lower the cost energy is to find a new energy program.

Conversations are based on trying to find a common ground. If you really think that the government should override people’s safety choices and mandate inferior options for the sake of a hypothetical and very much in doubt anthropogenic catastrophe, we just plain don’t have that common ground.

That would be great. I see absolutely no evidence to support that idea, however.

That’ll be a cold day in hell.

And why aren’t the more enlightened legislators not pointing to the boost in the Alberta economy because of the tar-sand extraction of oil? Are these lawmakers interested in our economy or not?

onlineanalyst on May 29, 2008 at 8:37 PM

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Oh, its better than that – last December, the congress snuck a section into the energy bill which will severely limit any petroleum products coming to the US from Alberta oil sands.

http://priceofoil.org/2008/01/15/us-congress-says-no-to-tar-sands-quietly/

Here’s one that somebody missed. Apparently Section 526 of the Energy Bill signed into law by Bush less than a month ago stated that the U.S. government would not purchase transportation fuel from nonconventional petroleum sources that have higher life-cycle greenhouse gas emissions from production and combustion than equivalent conventional fuel.

I agree, more nuclear. But how are you going to power your car with nuclear energy unless your car is electric?

Golden Boy on May 29, 2008 at 5:11 PM

We have enough resources to power cars until new tech comes along.
We just need to drill and refine the oil. I would bet we haven’t even used 1% of the total earth’s oil. I wouldn’t be surprised if oil is being produced naturally almost as fast as we are using it. Our world is a vast large planet, compared to the amount of people.

Truth be told, much of the price is built by unregulated speculation on the ICE/OTC exchanges.

The trading of energy commodities by large firms on OTC electronic exchanges was exempted from CFTC oversight by a provision inserted at the behest of Enron and other large energy traders into the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 in the waning hours of the 106th Congress

(Sec. 103) Excludes from coverage under the Act a transaction in an excluded commodity: (1) entered into between eligible contract participants and not executed on a trading facility; or (2) executed on electronic trading facilities as long as the transaction is entered into on a principal—to—principal basis by eligible contract participants trading for themselves.

(Sec. 104) Excludes from coverage under the Act electronic trading of excluded and exempt commodities. States that a board of trade designated as a contract market or derivatives transaction execution facility may establish and operate an electronic trading facility.

Expect to see much more of this…

Small cars will not with stand the impact of another small car much less a standard size vehicle. The smaller engines require lighter weight materials and crumple zone. The majority of the time when they are hit, they are totaled out by the insurance carrier. Their engines have to rev higher to produce an equivalent amount of power, there fore they are not that fuel efficient considering the weight to power ratio. I think I will stick to my gas guzzling pre 90’s Detroit Iron to get to where I want to go. Yep, the price of gas hurts, considering I still remeber gas at 18 cents a gallon, and then we were lucky to get 10 miles to the gallon.

dedalus: Ironically, many of those beneficiaries of the farm bills do not even live in rural areas.

I find it extremely tiresome when members of Congress point to mass transit as a panacea. Many of them represent urban areas, where public transportation is feasible

onlineanalyst on May 29, 2008 at 8:37 PM

Between ethanol and the most recent farm bill, the congress seems to be at least as active handing tax dollars away in rural areas–to individuals who earn up to $1.5MM annually. At least when tax money is spent subsidizing mass transit it doesn’t cause food to be more expensive for the rest of the country.

It is coming, eventually. After all of the smoke and noise (say 20 years from now) this will be the future, along with Canadian tar sands. The combination of these two plays is appx twice what Saudi holds. All we need is to stop the greens.

Think_b4_speaking on May 29, 2008 at 10:49 AM

And why aren’t the more enlightened legislators not pointing to the boost in the Alberta economy because of the tar-sand extraction of oil? Are these lawmakers interested in our economy or not?

I find it extremely tiresome when members of Congress point to mass transit as a panacea. Many of them represent urban areas, where public transportation is feasible… even though these elite lawmakers probably have never used such transportation themselves.

The fact of the matter is that we have a big country, where most of the foodstuffs and durable goods have to be delivered by both truck and rail. How do the elite figure that food gets to the market? Or are their appetites appeased by exotic items flown in for their feasts?

onlineanalyst on May 29, 2008 at 8:04 PM

Right on, but you forgot one. Make your opinion known in the voting booth as well.

This backdoor tax will drive up the cost of energy and threaten many, many jobs. The disaster unleashed by this bureaucratic bungling is frightening to fathom. The pseudo-science behind this bill is just another example of Congress’s laws of unintended consequences. More agencies will be created, and no more energy will be produced.

Make your opinions known in letters to the editor, to Congress, in blogs, and on call-in radio.

I really don’t get the kneejerk aversion I see on the Right towards alternative energy and driving smaller vehicles.

It’s not knee-jerk aversion toward alternative energy and driving smaller vehicles.

It’s knee-jerk aversion to hypocritical politicians reducing our liberty by taking more of our money and throwing it at not-very-well-though-out schemes like ethanol and by forcing us to drive smaller cars.

Because smaller cares fare worse in collisions, by the laws of physics, and becayse “alternative energy” ALMOST always translates as “less efficient, more expensive, less available and/or simply not there.”

First, smaller cars fare worse only because there are so many gigantic SUV’s on the road in the first place. It’s like a game theory situation: person A buys a bigger safety cage which requires person B to likewise.

Secondly, as others have pointed out, what does our dependence on foreign oil cost? Example, Iran’s nuclear program hasn’t been turned into a smoldering crater because of the blowback that would ensue in the Persian Gulf and probably Saudi oil facilities. I’d much rather subsidize our way out of oil dependence on OPEC, Chavez, etc., than subsidize oil by protecting the shipping lanes for the tankers that bring it to us.

Really? then why isn’t Yuka Flats open?

Romeo13 on May 29, 2008 at 6:57 PM

Is that yucca mountain? Not sure what Yuka Flats is.

They have been trying to push for Nuclear and other sources… since the 70’s. Not to sure how you want to solve the long term when people keep voting in the rejects that keep promoting this.

upinak on May 29, 2008 at 6:52 PM

Really? then why isn’t Yuka Flats open?

and becayse “alternative energy” ALMOST always translates as “less efficient, more expensive, less available and/or simply not there.”

And “develop alternative sources” almost always means “somebody wave a magic wand, quick!”

The discovery of new resources and principles is rarely subject to an artificial timetable.

Merovign on May 29, 2008 at 6:40 PM

The price comparison depends on whether a fully-loaded cost for oil can be calculated based on the additional military costs to secure the sources for oil. Currently we pay the military part of the price through income taxes rather than per gallon at the pump. Domestic sources of energy don’t require that additional military outlay.

Now however it will prove to be much more difficult with the global warming nuts running around. Don’t forget that almost to a person they all want dramatically higher energy prices.

patrick neid on May 29, 2008 at 6:35 PM

They have been trying to push for Nuclear and other sources… since the 70’s. Not to sure how you want to solve the long term when people keep voting in the rejects that keep promoting this.

The Jimmy Carter policy of windfall-profits taxation will only pass along the burden to consumers while forcing domestic oil producers to cut investments in new production.

Ed, it would exploration not production. If you already have a production well in use you don’t cap it off while prices are this high. That would be insane. But you can stop all exploration, or a good majority of it.

A Production well is a already proven well from either a pool of oil, satellite (smaller pool or bubble of the bigger one) or a pocket of natural gas. They only way to find them is via Exploration and a Discovery (major find). That is when they lease out the land, create Units and specialized orders, so anyone can get their fair share. No worries, a lot get them confused or don’t know.

I really don’t get the kneejerk aversion I see on the Right towards alternative energy and driving smaller vehicles.

Because smaller cares fare worse in collisions, by the laws of physics, and becayse “alternative energy” ALMOST always translates as “less efficient, more expensive, less available and/or simply not there.”

And “develop alternative sources” almost always means “somebody wave a magic wand, quick!”

The discovery of new resources and principles is rarely subject to an artificial timetable.