Obama ready to crush Hillary with secret stash of superdelegates?

posted at 12:15 pm on May 28, 2008 by Allahpundit

The elders have long spoken of a secret order of superdelegates, unknown to man but known to He Who Is, who shall appear at the appointed hour to smite the Beast. Lo, the hour is near:

According to our sources, Obama’s been making calls on the Hill this week (the place where more undeclared superdelegates live than any other in the country) in an attempt to gather the number he needs, probably around 45 supers in order to declare Tuesday night or Wednesday morning. The campaign is hoarding commitments from undeclared superdelegates to hit these magic numbers once the nominating contests come to a close on June 3. The actual choreography, however, hasn’t been agreed to yet; it depends on what happens at Saturday’s DNC meeting. Here’s one scenario: Obama announces enough supers on Monday June 2 to bring him within 10 delegates of the new magic number. Then on Tuesday evening, just as the polls close in Montana, Obama thanks that state for putting him over the top as the small state is one the Obama camp is hoping to put in play for the fall.

Everyone understands what they mean by “the new magic number,” yes? 2,025 is the current number to clinch; Obama’s already within 50 delegates of that. If the full Florida and Michigan delegations are seated in accordance with Her Majesty’s wishes, the magic number will bump up to 2,210. If, per the compromise plans and legal opinions being circulated, only half the delegates are seated, the number will (presumably) be 2,128 or thereabouts. It all depends on what happens at the Rules and Bylaws Committee meeting on Saturday, although if Hillary’s not satisfied with the outcome, she could conceivably push on to the convention and try to get the full delegations seated via a ruling from the Credentials Committee (which convenes on the first day). The secret stash is designed to put him over the 2,025 mark or, if the magic number gets bumped up this weekend, to propel him to an even wider overall delegate lead, which will come in handy for spin purposes if, as expected, she blows him out in Puerto Rico this weekend.

Exit question: She’s not actually going to rock on to the Credentials Committee, is she? RCP gives her a momentary lead in the popular vote, but that’s only if you credit Obama with zero votes from Michigan. (Remember, Hillary was the only candidate on the ballot there; there were 238,000+ votes for “uncommitted.”) If you attribute the “uncommitted” votes to him plus the estimates in the four caucus states that don’t officially count votes, then he’s ahead in the popular vote by roughly 180,000, a margin that Puerto Rico could wipe out. So why not rock on? Meanwhile, NBC notes that even if Michigan’s delegates are ultimately seated, DNC rules may not allow the party to assign those “uncommitted” delegates to Obama — although given the fact that any delegate, pledged or super, can vote however they want, you have to expect that a vast majority will simply for Barry O of their own volition. Long story short, she’s not going to win but if Puerto Rico comes through she might conceivably have an argument to make at the convention if she wants to.

Update: Make that two arguments.

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So is this this the final scene where they monster really does die?

MB4 on May 28, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Obama ready to crush Hillary with secret stash of superdelegates?

Wonder Obama powers activate!!

*Wonder Obama™ theme music begins*

Form of: A secret stash of Super Delegates!!!

Shape of: Hillary being unceremoniously pulled away, stage left!!!

wise_man on May 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM

So He Who Is will finally drive the stake through the heart of She Who Was? OK, what’s the next feature? Is there a cartoon in between?

MB4 on May 28, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Just got an email from Team Clinton, entitled “How we win”.

This Sunday, voters in Puerto Rico will go to the polls and make their voices heard — the first time the island has played such a vital role in selecting our party’s nominee. At this critical moment, I am depending on you to help me make sure they have a choice. We are depending on the voters of Puerto Rico in our fight to secure the nomination.

It doesn’t matter what the pundits say. You and I know this race is up to the voters, and I’m going to keep fighting for every last vote. That’s why it is so important that we get voters to the polls over the next few days — and we can’t do that without your help.

Over the next four days, we have the opportunity to make history in the Puerto Rico primary — and win the national primary vote by redoubling our efforts.

As for this:

She’s not actually going to rock on to the Credentials Committee, is she?

What does she have to lose? Kennedy brought his fight to the convention and came within, what, 10 delegates of winning it?

amerpundit on May 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM

Don’t be fooled, AP. This is the bit in Friday the 13th Part 7 where Obama uses his telekinetic powers to send power cords into the puddle Hillary’s standing in, and she falls down and he thinks it’s over.

CH-CH-CH-CH-HAH-HAH-HAH-HAH.

Well-Armed Lamb on May 28, 2008 at 12:31 PM

Delegates, superdelegates, and now secret superdelegates?

My confusion runneth over.

Bigfoot on May 28, 2008 at 12:35 PM

a secret order of superdelegates, unknown to man but known to He Who Is

It’s Kucinish and the superdelegates live under his bed as dust bunnies.

Kini on May 28, 2008 at 12:37 PM

Meanwhile, NBC notes that even if Michigan’s delegates are ultimately seated, DNC rules may not allow the party to assign those “uncommitted” delegates to Obama — although given the fact that any delegate, pledged or super, can vote however they want, you have to expect that a vast majority will simply for Barry O of their own volition

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I’m sure Hillary’s lawyers will specify in the lawsuit that none of Michigan delegates can be allocated to Obama.

Think_b4_speaking on May 28, 2008 at 12:39 PM

I would have thought Obama could crush Hillary by enlisting the power of those zombie soldiers he saw in Las Cruces on Memorial Day.

jon1979 on May 28, 2008 at 12:40 PM

BTW, how many delegates are at stake in states 51-57, and when do they hold their primaries?

Think_b4_speaking on May 28, 2008 at 12:43 PM

Base jumping is not for the faint of heart.

captivated_dem on May 28, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Almost time to cue the Fat Lady!

pilamaye on May 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Say it ain’t so.

phronesis on May 28, 2008 at 12:58 PM

Delegates, superdelegates, and now secret superdelegates?

Bigfoot on May 28, 2008 at 12:35 PM

Just you wait, Bigfoot. You ain’t seen nothin’ until you’ve seen double-secret probation superdelegates!

Once June 3rd is over, it’s really cheap to “keep hope alive” because all Hillary will be doing is calling superdelegates and appearing on various talk shows. Thus, I think the only way Hillary steps down before the convention is if she gets bought off, either with the VP ticket or with reimbursement of her campaign debt. Obama can’t do either without significantly weakening his chances in the general. But the longer Hillary stays in, the weaker he gets (and, candidly, the greater the chance is that Hillary will stage a last minute upset with the superdelegates, secret or otherwise).

Outlander on May 28, 2008 at 1:03 PM

As the pro-Hillary websites will be quick to point out, Hillary wasn’t the only candidate on the Michigan ballot. Some removed their names, others didn’t.

Buford Gooch on May 28, 2008 at 1:04 PM

I think it’s hype to get her to drop out before he takes a drubbing in Puerto Rico (and possibly open-primary Montana?) or more bad news about him comes out. A win now takes him off the radar for almost four months, time to recover his popular image.

As for the only person on the ballot thing – the only people not on the ballot were Edwards and Obama. Richardson, Biden, et al. were there. It was a fair vote. Does anyone care that Guiliani wasn’t on the ballots in Iowa, New Hampshire, or South Carolina? Was anyone screaming unfairness at the time? Do their delegates not count because, y’know, the outcome could have been different?

elladeon on May 28, 2008 at 1:07 PM

Get ready for the end of T2 as she is destroyed in the molten metal.

Valiant on May 28, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Get ready for the end of T2 as she is destroyed in the molten metal.

Valiant on May 28, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Have you learned noting, Valiant? There is a (great) Terminator TV show out now and a new trilogy of Terminator movies coming out starting in May 2009. They can’t be stopped. . . :)

Outlander on May 28, 2008 at 1:12 PM

I’m no Hillary fan, but she scares me less than Obama does. She’s proved she’s not really effective. He may be incompetent and ignorant, but I’m really afraid large swaths of the ruling class will follow him right off the cliff. He just scares me more.

elladeon on May 28, 2008 at 1:16 PM

double-secret probation superdelegates!

Outlander on May 28, 2008 at 1:03 PM

Dang! You beat me to it.

As a twist, how about this…super secret double delegates?
You know, those super secret delegates who get to vote twice for Hillary?

Red Pill on May 28, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Almost time to cue the Fat Lady!

pilamaye on May 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM

As long as when they get to the convention the Dems use a butterfly ballot the “fat lady” can take as many encores she likes.

Get ready for the end of T2 as she is destroyed in the molten metal.

Valiant on May 28, 2008 at 1:08 PM

According to “real science” roaches have a longer life-span.

Rovin on May 28, 2008 at 1:20 PM

Does anyone care that Guiliani wasn’t on the ballots in Iowa, New Hampshire, or South Carolina?

elladeon on May 28, 2008 at 1:07 PM

Fox News shows Guiliani coming in 6th, 4h, and 6th in those states:
http://elections.foxnews.com/iowa/
http://elections.foxnews.com/new-hampshire/
http://elections.foxnews.com/south-carolina/

Red Pill on May 28, 2008 at 1:32 PM

Outlander on May 28, 2008 at 1:03 PM

Yikes! Thanks for the warning, Outlander. I will be on the lookout for any politicos who resemble John Belushi.

Bigfoot on May 28, 2008 at 1:34 PM

She’s not actually going to rock on to the Credentials Committee, is she?

Of course she is. She’s entitled, remember?

Del Dolemonte on May 28, 2008 at 2:08 PM

They said this a month ago…two months ago…

This is foolish. Either he has the committed super delegates already or he doesn’t. If he does, they would have ended this already.

Since it’s not over, he doesn’t. Don’t tell me that the Democratic party isn’t desperate to end this any way possible.

If they could, they would. Ergo, this is bunk.

Asher on May 28, 2008 at 2:28 PM

I’m loving all the sunshine being let into the Democrat’s very undemocratic nomination process.

Buzzy on May 28, 2008 at 2:30 PM

I’m wondering how many of those old FBI files she’s holding over the super-duper-secrety delegates heads?

2klbofun on May 28, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Hmmm, knowing that Kennedy hated Johnson……… I wonder……. scary ain’t it?

MNDavenotPC on May 28, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Well, the problem is, Obama DOES have a secret stash….
And he has been smoking it.

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 3:00 PM

You’re right, Red Pill. That’s what I get for going by memory; Guiliani must have just not campaigned, in anticipation for Florida, not removed himself from the ballot.

I’m still more afraid of Obama, though. :)

elladeon on May 28, 2008 at 3:06 PM

Time for Hillary to run as an independent…Hillary for President, I think she deserves a shot at it.

right2bright on May 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM

The Anti-Christ or Satan’s Bride. Who to root for…who to root for?

Master Shake on May 28, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Rush is really pounding the point home that the ONLY way Obambi wins is if the Dhimmis disenfranchise millions of voters in Florida and Michigan. Good point!

Mojave Mark on May 28, 2008 at 8:43 PM

For the sake of Operation Chaos, Hillary needs to get her shit together. She can nip this in the bud by reminding the world that the SuperDels don’t get to vote until the convention. It doesn’t matter who they claim to support now. They can change their minds, as many have already.
Even the regular delegates don’t cast their votes until they get to Denver.
Over on the GOP side, John McCain is still being described as the “presumptive nominee”, at least by CNN. For once, CNN are right. Neither McCain or Obama have officially secured their respective nominations. Obviously, there won’t be any surprises in St. Paul; but Obama – the “One Man Gaffe Machine” – still has work to do.

infidel65 on May 29, 2008 at 5:25 AM