Good news: Dems have a shot at filibuster-proof senate majority

posted at 7:02 pm on May 28, 2008 by Allahpundit

Via the Standard, every few months The Hill runs a story along these lines and every time they do things look a little worse. Cheer up, though: None of the five conservatives on the Supreme Court should be retiring anytime soon, and except for health care, any sweeping policy initiatives likely to be signed by President Obama would also be signed by President McCain, cough, cough. Bring on the golden age!

A flood of recent polls supports Democratic arguments that the party will win a larger majority in the Senate in the next election.

Democrats have now polled ahead or within the margin of error in 11 Republican-held seats, as polls conducted in recent weeks show openings in second-tier targets including Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina and Texas…

Democrats have also polled ahead in at least some of the polling in Alaska, Colorado, New Hampshire, New Mexico and Virginia, polling substantial leads in the latter three. They have also been within the margin of error in Minnesota and Oregon.

Though it hasn’t polled close yet, the party is also banking on Rep. Tom Allen (Maine) closing the gap in his race against Sen. Susan Collins (R).

On second thought, defunding the war would count as a rather sharp policy difference between Presidents Obama and McCain, huh? Maybe we should stop thinking about 60 as the magic number and start thinking about the two-thirds majority it would take to override a McCain veto. We’re bound to end up with at least 34 hawkish Republicans, aren’t we? Aren’t we?

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Of course they’ll take it. Since 2006, Congress under democrat control has proven to be popular and efficient. Let’s put more dems in there and make it even more popular and efficient.

MadisonConservative on May 28, 2008 at 7:06 PM

There are only 4 conservatives on the Supreme Court.

Maxx on May 28, 2008 at 7:06 PM

On second thought, defunding the war would count as a rather sharp policy difference between Presidents Obama and McCain, huh?

Yeah, kind of. Along with policies towards Iran and other regimes, the funding of the military in general, support for the missile defense shield, school choice, life issues, the Second Amendment, earmarks and spending…

amerpundit on May 28, 2008 at 7:08 PM

Ouch, you never want a single party with that much power, esp. if a Dem wins the White House (likely enough given general dissatisfaction with Bush).

Bush seems to have accepted life as a lame duck long ago, but can’t he at least pretend to care- perhaps talk about a few new ideas for dealing with the energy crisis? It would help McCain in the election cycle if he made a real effort to win some political capital before he leaves office.

bayam on May 28, 2008 at 7:09 PM

So it doesn`t matter who wins. Why not push for McCain so we atleast have a foreign poilcy Presient who knows what the hell he`s talking about?

ThePrez on May 28, 2008 at 7:10 PM

this could be the end of us and the start of the Socialist States of America.

jp on May 28, 2008 at 7:10 PM

No mention that we’re about to be taxed back to the days of rocks and sticks?

Chuck Schick on May 28, 2008 at 7:10 PM

amerpundit on May 28, 2008 at 7:08 PM

And taxes!

apollyonbob on May 28, 2008 at 7:13 PM

is it unamerican to start rooting for our Caesar to come along, a right wing one of course?

just kidding, kinda…

jp on May 28, 2008 at 7:13 PM

jp on May 28, 2008 at 7:10 PM

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened.”

-Norman Thomas, six-time Socialist presidential candidate, co-founder of the the precursor of the American Civil Liberties Union

amerpundit on May 28, 2008 at 7:14 PM

No mention that we’re about to be taxed back to the days of rocks and sticks?

Try more like the days of Bill and Hillary. Not only that, you’ll still have the $10,000 gift of new federal debt (per US citizen) from Bush looming over your head.

bayam on May 28, 2008 at 7:15 PM

Who knew that the real damage of 9/11 would not come until 2008? The only reason a total socialist lightweight like Obama has a good chance at the White House is because of the actions Bush took (wise or not) to fight terrorism. Of course, not even the most cynical would have predicted just how insidious and petty the Dems would be to try to take back power. They’ll throw anyone and anything, including our security and our economy under the bus to get back into “power.” Ugh.

Sugar Land on May 28, 2008 at 7:15 PM

Who knew that the real damage of 9/11 would not come until 2008? The only reason a total socialist lightweight like Obama has a good chance at the White House is because of the actions Bush took (wise or not) to fight terrorism

You’re completely right. All the ‘hope for change’ and ‘audacity for hope’ rhetoric would fall on deaf ears if people weren’t deeply upset about the direction of the country on many fronts- not just the war on terrorism though. In different times, Obama wouldn’t have had a chance.

bayam on May 28, 2008 at 7:17 PM

How is it any different from the ones we have now?

rw on May 28, 2008 at 7:19 PM

so, if this happens. anyway chance at all that National Healthcare doesn’t happen?

jp on May 28, 2008 at 7:20 PM

It’s been a few months since we talked secession. This seems like an appropriate thread.

Republic of Texas: it’s not just a biker rally anymore.

TexasDan on May 28, 2008 at 7:20 PM

Try more like the days of Bill and Hillary. Not only that, you’ll still have the $10,000 gift of new federal debt (per US citizen) from Bush looming over your head.

bayam on May 28, 2008 at 7:15 PM

Plus removing the cap on Social Security taxes.

Plus hiking capital gains 40% above when Bill left office.

Plus the new Congress is about to run up the biggest deficit in history, give or take $10 billion.

Plus the additional $300B a year Obama wants to spend if president.

Plus the additional $2.5 trillion on the books in existing unfunded Democrat entitlements in the past year alone.

If you think we’re just going back to the days of Bill and Hillary with a filibuster proof majority, you’re snorting more powerful stuff than Obama did.

Chuck Schick on May 28, 2008 at 7:21 PM

this could be the end of us and the start of the Socialist States of America.

jp on May 28, 2008 at 7:10 PM

That’s why I keep sayin’ that getting them out and replacing with conservatives after an Obama presidency won’t be as easy as everyone thinks. Entitlements rule. Activist judges rule.

a capella on May 28, 2008 at 7:21 PM

Ouch, you never want a single party with that much power, esp. if a Dem wins the White House (likely enough given general dissatisfaction with Bush).

Especially if Harry and Nancy are running congress.

That being said, if the Dems pull the trifecta, I find it hard to see any filibuster proof majority surviving the mid-terms. It’s conceivable that they could lose their majority altogether. Harry and Nancy have had the good fortune of being able to hide behind Bush, but with Obama in the WH, they won’t have that luxury.

Just hope they don’t do too much damage in 2 years if that comes to pass.

thirteen28 on May 28, 2008 at 7:21 PM

meanwhile, Shep Smith just did his McClellan piece and repeated all the propaganda. Now it turns out the the Obama campaign is using the book already in their campaign….nice.

jp on May 28, 2008 at 7:22 PM

Please. Elizabeth Dole is NOT going to lose to the democrat hag that’s running against her here in NC.

SouthernGent on May 28, 2008 at 7:22 PM

brought to you in large part by the Mainstream Media….

jp on May 28, 2008 at 7:24 PM

Remember the good old days when dems talked about how important it is to our republic to have checks and balances?

Dollayo on May 28, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Republic of Texas: TexasDan on May 28, 2008 at 7:20 PM

That’s just one of the reasons my family moved to Texas from Florida two years ago.

Weight of Glory on May 28, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Good news: Dems have a shot at filibuster-proof senate majority
Allahpundit

And this bad news comes before the GOP suffers the long-term, negative voting effects of a John McCain amnesty for law-breakers.

GOP: get used to minority status.

ColtsFan on May 28, 2008 at 7:32 PM

bayam:

What is Bush supposed to do about the socalled energy crisis? So far the Democrats have made it plain that other than bitching about oil companies there is not much to do. Back in 2006 when the Democrats were running in the midterms they promised to end the war, bring down gas and oil prices and cut the deficit. Thus far…

Terrye on May 28, 2008 at 7:37 PM

If Republicans would stop eating their own it would help.

Terrye on May 28, 2008 at 7:39 PM

Coltsfan:

McCain is fairing better than the hardliners right now.

Terrye on May 28, 2008 at 7:40 PM

Terrye on May 28, 2008 at 7:40 PM

Hardliners? Interesting word. What is your idea of a “hardliner” and what evidence do you have that one of these “hardliners” is losing or has lost his/her seat because he/she was too hardline? And I’m refering to hardliners on our side, since that is the context of your comment.

Weight of Glory on May 28, 2008 at 7:44 PM

yeah, Mccain is only one with realistic shot at winning. maybe Rudy had he been nominated.

jp on May 28, 2008 at 7:44 PM

McCain is fairing better than the hardliners right now.

Terrye on May 28, 2008 at 7:40 PM

Hats off to him then…

John McCain’s amnesty will still relegate the GOP to a permanent minority party status which others , as well as the “Big A” have already previously noted.

ColtsFan on May 28, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Also, Terrye, I’m not trying to be snarky. I’m just always curious how conservatism is being defined, and the change in terms used to identify it.

Weight of Glory on May 28, 2008 at 7:49 PM

$4 gas will make people vote for the party who they feel isn’t responsible for it.

lorien1973 on May 28, 2008 at 7:49 PM

Good news indeed. Fully supported by this thread. Celebrate.

Entelechy on May 28, 2008 at 7:53 PM

Lets punish McCain and let Obama be a rubber stamp for Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid with a super majority!!!!

Yeee hawwww!!!!

Yea thats the ticket!

Chakra Hammer on May 28, 2008 at 7:59 PM

We’re bound to end up with at least 34 hawkish Republicans, aren’t we? Aren’t we?

No, it will be a veto proof hill. President useless, no matter which of the 3 liberals get there.

Wade on May 28, 2008 at 7:59 PM

“Someone cue the fat lady, she’s on in five!”

ZK on May 28, 2008 at 8:02 PM

One wonders what flavor koolaid “Madison Conservative” is drinking. Congress is “popular and efficient”??? lololol Ok Mad , Whatever……

Rick554 on May 28, 2008 at 8:09 PM

Bush’s Ten Plagues

First Plague: Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq.

Second Plague: Propagating the Islam is a great religion of peace and American troops must die for them doctrine.

Third Plague: Putting Chertoff and Myers and other incompetents in charge of our security.

Fourth Plague: The Bush/McCain/Graham/Kyl/Kennedy axis of weasels.

Fifth Plague: Stabbing the working men and women of America in the back.

Sixth Plague: Selling the Unites States of America out to agri-business, the Chamber of Commerce and other plantation owners.

Seventh Plague: Burdening Americans with massive amounts of imported crime, drugs and welfare dependents from a foreign country.

Eighth Plague: Trying to legalize and institutionalize a form of serfdom in the nation of Abraham Lincoln.

Ninth Plague: Aiding, abetting and facilitating the ruling class in Mexico to ethnically cleanse much of their lower class.

Tenth Plague: Destroying the party and coalition that Ronald Reagan build.

MB4 on May 28, 2008 at 8:10 PM

$4 gas will make people vote for the party who they feel isn’t responsible for it.
lorien1973 on May 28, 2008 at 7:49 PM

OK, then.. Which party is it that is responsible for it??? As far as I can see, BOTH of them bear equal responsibility for it.

Oh, sure, there are more Republicans that would vote for some common sense energy policies and laws than Democrats… But you are still left with the reality that 3/4 of the Republicans are just as guilty of it as are 7/8ths of the Democrats.

And sure, the media will try to spin it and blame it all on Bush, but even the people tied up in “American Idle” (misspelling intentional) have looked up often enough to see the democrats BRAGGING about voting to stop domestic oil drilling and refineries and electrical plant construction.

SO, I don’t see either party benefiting from this situation, and when GoreBull Warming and the ANWR Mosquito Preservation Campaign is one of the main planks of the McCain Campaign, it sure as heck won’t be something the Republican Party can use.

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 8:11 PM

facts of gas prices don’t matter, the party in power gets blamed. voters are ignorant boobs.

jp on May 28, 2008 at 8:13 PM

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 8:11 PM

In the eyes of your average voter; it doesn’t matter who is responsible. The party in charge (presidency) gets the blame. It’s pretty simple. They vote will vote against that party.

People are kidding themselves if they think elections are more complex than that.

lorien1973 on May 28, 2008 at 8:17 PM

facts of gas prices don’t matter, the party in power gets blamed. voters are ignorant boobs.

jp on May 28, 2008 at 8:13 PM

And thank God for that as that is something that helped Ronald Reagen defeat Jimmy Carter.

MB4 on May 28, 2008 at 8:18 PM

Only one thing can help republicans…stop blaming Bush and get your own Identity.

tomas on May 28, 2008 at 8:21 PM

Please. Elizabeth Dole is NOT going to lose to the democrat hag that’s running against her here in NC.

SouthernGent on May 28, 2008 at 7:22 PM

I’d guess quite a few of those races are similar. I remember the media crowing about this stuff all the time in past elections. Shrug, don’t see it happening.

If Republicans would stop eating their own it would help.

Terrye on May 28, 2008 at 7:39 PM

well, yeah

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 8:24 PM

This, if true, is entirely deserved for the Republican party. If they want to give haven to people like the pigs from Alaska then so be it. We don’t need the Democrat & Shadow Democrat parties; the Republicans have to offer something different, a genuine alternative to Democrat progressiveism. At present they really don’t.

thegreatbeast on May 28, 2008 at 8:25 PM

If Republicans would stop eating their own it would help.

Terrye on May 28, 2008 at 7:39 PM

I’d prefer republicans eat their own than rubber stamp moron politicians because they have an R next to their name.

lorien1973 on May 28, 2008 at 8:25 PM

Colorado’s GOP senator is Wayne Allard. I lived in CO last time he was up for election, and there was endless, breathless media speculation/prediction that he would lose. He won, no problem.

It’s Allard again, and he’s a decent senator and a decent guy (boring speaker though). I expect him to be re-elected, unless all the purists stay home.

Ken Salazar won a senate seat in CO and has been pretty much of an embarrassment (and is a dem) so I just can’t see a huge D groundswell for another one of them in the Senate.

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 8:28 PM

Oh.. I got side tracked by my reply to Lorien..

What I intended to say is;
That old:

“VOTE REPUBLICAN: We suck a little less than the Democrats”

campaign slogan adopted by the GOP back in 2006 is really working out well for them, huh?

And if the Democrats had nominated anyone better than Gore in 2000, and Bush had not had the WOT and the lower taxes thing to differentiate himself from Kerry in 2004, the “we suck a little less” situation would actually have to go back to the end of the Reagan Presidency.

How many losing election cycles is it going to take the ‘hold your nosers’ to figure out that it only makes things worse?

I’ve been told by ‘wiser, calmer heads’ for about forty years now: “This is not the time to jump ship because of ******” (whatever pseudo emergency reason is in play at the time) . “Hold your nose, vote the Party line.” We will get the Party back to its roots next time.”

There will always be the ‘raison du jour‘ why we have to vote the party line, but the GOP has become so entrenched in idiocy and politics as usual that even another Reagan of the 80s or a Gingrich of the EARLY 90s will not be able to rise within the party to pull them out of the septic pit that they have dug around themselves.

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 8:37 PM

Colorado’s GOP senator is Wayne Allard. I lived in CO last time he was up for election, and there was endless, breathless media speculation/prediction that he would lose. He won, no problem.

It’s Allard again, and he’s a decent senator and a decent guy (boring speaker though). I expect him to be re-elected, unless all the purists stay home.

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 8:28 PM

I thought Senator Wayne Allard was not running again:

On January 15, 2007 Allard announced he would fulfill a 1996 campaign promise to serve only two Senate terms and would retire in January 2009.[4] In turn, the 2008 Senate race is expected to become competitive.[4] Democratic Representative Mark Udall and former Republican Representative Bob Schaffer have already announced their intention to run for the seat.

ColtsFan on May 28, 2008 at 8:40 PM

lorien1973 on May 28, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Oh, I agree… I thought you were intimating that it was something that the GOP could use to its benefit. My misconception, sorry..

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 8:40 PM

It would not be good to lose Mitch McConnell.

Conservatives have to support conservative state and local candidates, even if they do not support John McCain.

If someone could get to McCain and convince him that echoing liberal-Democrat doom and gloom (“Oh, I know everyone is hurting”) is not the way to defeat the Dems, he might have a much better chance, and even some coattails.

The American people will vote for real optimism (a la Reagan’s ‘Morning in America’, not the phony ‘hope’ and ‘change’ from the dour Obambi) every time.

If John McCain came out and said,

“We are going to have a pro-growth policy in America, to keep America in the forefront of the world; we’re going to push for American energy for American growth; cheap, plentiful energy for the 21st century; because we’re not Old Europe; we’re a big, brawling country with big vistas, big ideas, and big ambitions; this is going to be the American Century, but not if we let the whining Democrats turn us back into a third-world nation. We’re going to drill for oil, and dig coal, and build nuclear plants, and we’re not afraid of a little CO2 in the atmosphere; it’s good for plants and it’s good for us.

“Remember: AMERICAN ENERGY FOR AMERICAN GROWTH!”

If John McCain gave this speech, he would win in a heartbeat.

MrLynn on May 28, 2008 at 8:44 PM

On second thought, defunding the war would count as a rather sharp policy difference between Presidents Obama and McCain, huh? Maybe we should stop thinking about 60 as the magic number and start thinking about the two-thirds majority it would take to override a McCain veto.

I hear this a lot, but it’s still mistaken. The Dems don’t need to override a veto to end the war. All a Dem Congress needs to do is stop allocating money for it, and there is nothing any president can do about it.

flenser on May 28, 2008 at 8:46 PM

MB4, I can’t disagree with your list of plagues, and can add to it. And the Obamas are going to be an even bigger plague to this country than that.

a genuine alternative to Democrat progressiveism. At present they really don’t.

thegreatbeast on May 28, 2008 at 8:25 PM

Please, never, ever, write ‘progressive’ without single quotes, when mentioning lefties. They are anything but that.

Entelechy on May 28, 2008 at 8:48 PM

On January 15, 2007 Allard announced he would fulfill a 1996 campaign promise to serve only two Senate terms and would retire in January 2009.[4] In turn, the 2008 Senate race is expected to become competitive.[4] Democratic Representative Mark Udall and former Republican Representative Bob Schaffer have already announced their intention to run for the seat.
ColtsFan on May 28, 2008 at 8:40 PM

Hmmmm. That’s too bad as Allard is a decent sort for a Senator (he’s a veterinarian in “real life”). I know the names of both of the other guys, but can’t remember why. We moved away a few years ago…

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 8:49 PM

so, if this happens. anyway chance at all that National Healthcare doesn’t happen?

Kaus is predicting that the Dems will hold off on that, and work on amnesty instead.

Once they get their new voters, national health care will come easily.

flenser on May 28, 2008 at 8:49 PM

Mark Udall may be a huge douchebag…old recollection. I’m gonna google it.

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 8:51 PM

will not be able to rise within the party to pull them out of the septic pit that they have dug around themselves.

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 8:37 PM

Septic pit on the left, septic pit on the right. The rats, politicians and constituents, are fat and happy, squilling the slush in oblivion. The latrine is Rome in its first stage of sunset.

Entelechy on May 28, 2008 at 8:52 PM

“Remember: AMERICAN ENERGY FOR AMERICAN GROWTH!”

There’s clearly a dearth of innovative ideas when it comes to plotting a real course away from foreign energy dependence. I know some people seem to think ‘nothing can be done, oh no’ and that it’s time to sit around and just take it. However, that’s not the kind of forward-thinking that put a man on the moon. Hopefully when the main campaign starts, better ideas will emerge.

bayam on May 28, 2008 at 8:53 PM

OT

Olberdouche just called Michelle Malkin a fascist.

His three viewers applauded.

fogw on May 28, 2008 at 8:53 PM

Republic of Texas: it’s not just a biker rally anymore.
TexasDan on May 28, 2008 at 7:20 PM
+++++++++++++++++++++++
HELL yeah –

fabrexe on May 28, 2008 at 8:58 PM

Hmmm, well he was right about Ward Churchill. But appears to be somewhat of a 9/11 troofer. Link to youtube video posted by the troofers at the end. shudder.

Rep. Mark Udall, D-Colo, said academic freedom goes along with freedom of speech, and controversial views will find a safe haven at universities.

“But Ward Churchill’s actions have gone far beyond giving voice to reprehensible points of views,” he said. “As much as Ward Churchill would like us to believe otherwise, today’s dismissal is about his academic conduct. It is a shame that Ward Churchill still tries to deny the disservice he has done to CU by claiming the university is interfering with his right to free speech.”

Udall has been anti-Iraq from the beginning, and was anti-surge. He supports “redeployment” away from Iraq. Hopefully that doesn’t mean he’s a friend of Murtha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqKKrzUW8ak

If Coloradans can’t be convinced to vote against a troofer, well, that’s not necessarily the GOP’s fault.

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 8:58 PM

There’s clearly a dearth of innovative ideas when it comes to plotting a real course away from foreign energy dependence.

It’s not that hard. (1) Drill for oil in America. (2) Build nuclear, or nukular, power plants.

Problem solved.

Oh, I forgot (3). You can’t solve Americas demand for energy at the same time as you are making its population skyrocket. So get a grip on our out-of-control immigration. If our population increases by 50%, our energy needs will also.

flenser on May 28, 2008 at 8:59 PM

Remember the good old days when dems talked about how important it is to our republic to have checks and balances?

Dollayo on May 28, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Yes, Dems about “checks and balances” and “oversight” when Republicans controlled the Presidency and both houses, but I doubt the Dems ever said “our Republic”….

…to them (the Democratic Socialists), our country is a “Democracy”, remember?

Red Pill on May 28, 2008 at 9:03 PM

flenser, I agree fully with your (1) and (2) ideas on energy, but the liberals will not approve either.

France solved this problem a long time ago, by keeping reactors and other parts similar, so they can learn from the good/bad functions and address needed adjustments. They even export a bunch of (nuclear) energy to neighboring countries.

Entelechy on May 28, 2008 at 9:04 PM

There’s clearly a dearth of innovative ideas when it comes to plotting a real course away from foreign energy dependence. I know some people seem to think ‘nothing can be done, oh no’ and that it’s time to sit around and just take it. However, that’s not the kind of forward-thinking that put a man on the moon. Hopefully when the main campaign starts, better ideas will emerge.

bayam on May 28, 2008 at 8:53 PM

I agree that we’ve got to ditch the ‘can’t do’ mentality; it will do nothing but drag us down.

But I don’t think there is any dearth of ‘innovative ideas’. We’ve got the technology now to exploit known resources, including Alaskan/Arctic/off-shore oil and gas, oil shale, huge coal deposits (which can be liquified), plentiful uranium, etc., all of which should keep energy cheap and abundant for the century, while we work on bio-hydrogen, solar satellites, fusion, and other technologies yet to be envisioned.

Somebody in the public eye has got to stop cowering in the ‘sky-is-falling’ energy doldrums, stand up and say so!

MrLynn on May 28, 2008 at 9:04 PM

Here’s Schaffer’s intro letter. It seems like a clear choice to me: popular guy who wants smaller government and strong national defense against the troofer Udall. But I don’t live in CO any more, so couldn’t tell you much from on the scene.

Most Coloradans tell me they’re not happy with status-quo politics in Congress. They are tired of politicians who promise us one thing but then do something else. They are fed up with the partisan political bickering. They want leaders dedicated to finding real solutions for real problems rather than rewarding special interests or scoring political points.

As Colorado’s senator, I’ll fight to eliminate pork-barrel spending and restore real fiscal discipline in Congress. Holding the line on your taxes will be a top priority.
I’ll work closely with those who understand the federal government’s principal duty is to protect our nation and our way of life from those who want to destroy it. I’ll approach important issues, such as reforming health care and education, with compassion for the most vulnerable in our society and determination to find solutions that are smart and sustainable.

As you may know, I served Colorado in Congress before, as a Member of the U.S. House of Representatives. I served six years, fighting for commonsense reforms, then kept my term limits pledge and returned home to live under the laws I helped pass. Even though I had been re-elected to Congress the last time with nearly 80% of the vote, I understood how important it is for elected officials to keep their word.

If you agree it’s time for a reform-oriented, independent voice representing our state in the U.S. Senate I hope you’ll join our campaign. With your help we can bring real change to Congress and get our country back on track.

Oh, he’s heavily involved in charter schools and education. Surely not enough California morons have moved to CO to elect troofer Udall:

As a state senator Bob visited every school in his district. In 1993, Bob and Maureen were founding parents of Washington Core Knowledge School (later renamed Traut Core Knowledge), the first school in Colorado to offer the Core Knowledge curriculum (www.coreknowledge.org). In 1997, they helped open Fort Collins’ first charter school, Liberty Common School (www.libertycommon.org). Over the years, Bob and Maureen have regularly volunteered in their children’s schools and served as soccer and little league baseball coaches.

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 9:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqKKrzUW8ak

If Coloradans can’t be convinced to vote against a troofer, well, that’s not necessarily the GOP’s fault.

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 8:58 PM

It is a logical error to take a video edited by the truthers or any bunch of psychotic nuts and present as evidence for someone else’s views. We basically have no idea what Rep. Mark Udall may think of 9/11 based on this video. If you wish to convince me that Mark Udall has crazy ideas, come up with a real case & not just this garbage.

thuja on May 28, 2008 at 9:08 PM

If John McCain came out and said,

“We are going to have a pro-growth policy in America, to keep America in the forefront of the world; we’re going to push for American energy for American growth; cheap, plentiful energy for the 21st century; because we’re not Old Europe; we’re a big, brawling country with big vistas, big ideas, and big ambitions; this is going to be the American Century, but not if we let the whining Democrats turn us back into a third-world nation. We’re going to drill for oil, and dig coal, and build nuclear plants, and we’re not afraid of a little CO2 in the atmosphere; it’s good for plants and it’s good for us.

“Remember: AMERICAN ENERGY FOR AMERICAN GROWTH!”

If John McCain gave this speech, he would win in a heartbeat.

MrLynn on May 28, 2008 at 8:44 PM

I doubt he’d win with such a speech. Some people actually care about the environment. The only way I could even imagine voting for Obama is if John McCain made such a speech the centerpiece of his campaign.

thuja on May 28, 2008 at 9:12 PM

Republic of Texas: it’s not just a biker rally anymore.

TexasDan on May 28, 2008 at 7:20 PM

But the Democrats may cast us down even here in Texas. In the 2006 elections, we lost several seats in the legislature and now hold a slim 9 seat majority.

If they turn out the horde for the general election that they turned out for the primary, the Democrats have the numbers to throw off the yoke we’ve put upon them. And if they do, they’re going to burn our ranches, steal our cattle and have their way with our women.

paul006 on May 28, 2008 at 9:12 PM

Entelechy on May 28, 2008 at 8:52 PM
…The latrine is Rome in its first stage of sunset.

First stage? I figured second or third stage. Could be wrong.

But certainly, Milady: Bread and Circuses n’est-ce pas?
Bread and Circuses.

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 9:16 PM

Kaus is predicting that the Dems will hold off on that, and work on amnesty instead.

Once they get their new voters, national health care will come easily.
flenser on May 28, 2008 at 8:49 PM

I think you are correct. Most illegal immigrants do not carry Spanish versions of this book.

So get a grip on our out-of-control immigration. If our population increases by 50%, our energy needs will also.

flenser on May 28, 2008 at 8:59 PM

Good point.

The problem of the USA’s exploding population is only augmented by a de facto USA policy of granting amnesty to Visa over-stays.

John McCain’s amnesty even extends to the persistent problem of visa overstays. This means any tourist can come here legally on a tourist or student visa, and then over-stay and live in the US illegally, in the hope of another 8th amnesty granted to them.

Visa over-stays increase our population, and thereby increasing our energy needs.

ColtsFan on May 28, 2008 at 9:16 PM

Bread and Circuses.

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 9:16 PM

It’s more Cake and Circuses m’gent. Bread is to boring/poor for this rich place.

Entelechy on May 28, 2008 at 9:21 PM

Gee, George, how can we thank you?

stenwin77 on May 28, 2008 at 9:21 PM

Democrats…republicans….what’s the difference?

David in ATL on May 28, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Cake or cake.. As in let them eat?

Nah, we are both wrong…

TORTILLAS!
;-)

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 9:25 PM

Mark Udall is brother to Mo Udall, and Mo was maybe the huge douchbag. Mark is only a smallish douchebag, by comparison anyway. But gotta giggle over this gem:

By: John Amato on Friday, September 28th, 2007 at 4:51 PM – PDT On Monday, Congressman Mark Udall will be introducing a resolution to condemn Rush:

Honoring all Americans serving in the Armed Forces of the United States and condemning the attack by broadcaster Rush Limbaugh on the integrity and professionalism of some of those Americans.

On Monday I will introduce a resolution honoring all Americans serving in the Armed Forces and condemning this unwarranted attack on the integrity and professionalism of those in the Armed Forces who choose to exercise their constitutional right to express their opinions regarding U.S. military action in Iraq. Sincerely, Mark Udall

Maybe Rush can get a copy of this resolution and auction it off for charity too?

Mark Udall, Obamite:

Mark Udall, A Key Undecided Super-Delegate, Blasts Hillary’s Gas Tax Holiday
By Greg Sargent – May 2, 2008, 4:32PM
Here’s a bit more evidence that Hillary’s insistence that members of Congress declare whether they’re “with us or against us” on her gas tax holiday proposal risks causing friction with them at a time when she’s courting them as super-delegates.

Rep. Mark Udall, who’s running for Senate in Colorado and is undecided in the presidential race, has just come out against the proposal in very strong terms indeed:

“Senator Clinton claimed yesterday that I either stand with her on this proposal or stand with the oil companies. To that I say: I stand with the families of Colorado, who aren’t looking for bumper sticker fixes that don’t fix anything, but for meaningful change that brings real relief and a new direction for our energy policy. We can’t afford more Washington-style pandering while families keep getting squeezed.
“It is exactly the kind of short-sighted Washington game that keeps us from getting real results to our energy problem.”

Coming from a key undecided super-delegate, that’s some harsh language. And it bears a striking resemblance to Obama’s criticism of her proposal, too.

Udall gets an F from the NRA, and a high A from the ACLU.

We’ll see if the Obamassiah illness has hit CO hard enough to get this guy elected over Schaffer this year.

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 9:31 PM

Oh, I forgot (3). You can’t solve Americas demand for energy at the same time as you are making its population skyrocket. So get a grip on our out-of-control immigration. If our population increases by 50%, our energy needs will also.

flenser on May 28, 2008 at 8:59 PM

I have talked to Sierra Club members until I’m blue in the face about this point. They just refuse to get this point.

I have a particularly egregious story. Three years ago, one “environmentalist” told me we could let all the illegal immigrants and just consume differently. His job was to lobby for bicycles in our city. Then six months ago, I saw him in the Whole Foods parking lot (probably just having bought arugula in support of Obama) and he was driving a SUV!

thuja on May 28, 2008 at 9:32 PM

And someone said Bush was once a cheerleader.

profitsbeard on May 28, 2008 at 9:42 PM

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 9:31 PM

Yeah, and his Cousin Tom is likely to win the NM Senate seat being vacated by Domenici(R).

I’m working, donating and praying that the only real conservative in the race for the NM Senate, Steve Pearce gets it, but it’s a coin toss right now, with the Libs in the northern part (Udall’s congressional seat district) outnumbering the conservatives in the southern and the slightly left leaning centrists in Heather Wilson’s district likely to go with Udall if Wilson doesn’t win the primary.

But basically, yeah, all the Udalls, going back to Stewart are douches and bad for America’s sovereignty and economy.

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 9:44 PM

this could be the end of us and the start of the Socialist States of America.

jp on May 28, 2008 at 7:10 PM

Back in the USSA,
You don’t know how lucky you are…uh, dude!
Back in the US, Back in the USSA!

Nosferightu on May 28, 2008 at 9:47 PM

“Remember: AMERICAN ENERGY FOR AMERICAN GROWTH!”

If John McCain gave this speech, he would win in a heartbeat.

MrLynn on May 28, 2008 at 8:44 PM

I doubt he’d win with such a speech. Some people actually care about the environment. The only way I could even imagine voting for Obama is if John McCain made such a speech the centerpiece of his campaign.

thuja on May 28, 2008 at 9:12 PM

We all “care about the environment.” There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why we can’t burn fossil fuels and run atomic power plants without any damage to the environment at all.

We already have the cleanest vehicle and power-plant emissions on Earth. The myth being promulgated by the Global Warm-mongers that CO2 is a dangerous ‘pollutant’ is a hoax. We can have abundant, cheap energy, and a beautiful, healthy environment at the same time.

Conservatives are conservationists, too.

MrLynn on May 28, 2008 at 9:52 PM

I’m working, donating and praying that the only real conservative in the race for the NM Senate, Steve Pearce gets it, but it’s a coin toss right now, with the Libs in the northern part (Udall’s congressional seat district) outnumbering the conservatives in the southern and the slightly left leaning centrists in Heather Wilson’s district likely to go with Udall if Wilson doesn’t win the primary.

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Heather Wilson stands a good chance of becoming a Senator from NM. Pearce doesn’t.

RINOs like me will do everything we can so that the Democrats don’t get a filibuster proof super majority in the Senate. The “true” conservatives don’t care about the future if they can be so morally pure.

thuja on May 28, 2008 at 9:55 PM

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 9:44 PM

When is this primary? It seems kinda late….I hope you will vote for Heather Wilson if your guy doesn’t win the primary.

Sweet merciful heavens, we don’t need the MSM crowing about the Udall family like they did the Salazars in CO. icky

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 10:01 PM

2010. The year Americans wake up again and start demanding smaller, less out-of-control government?

I suppose so. And we may shift towards a Ronald Reagan style conservatism for a while.

… until the 20,000,000 plus voting age new citizens (mainly from south of the border) realize they can vote freebies for themselves – along with all the lazy asses who are currently getting them.

BowHuntingTexas on May 28, 2008 at 10:06 PM

What is Bush supposed to do about the socalled energy crisis?

Terrye on May 28, 2008 at 7:37 PM

I have a recommendation… how about issuing an Executive Order returning ANWR back to the State of Alaska? Since there are strict Constitutional requirements for acquiring lands for Federal control (which most national parks violate), and none of them have been met in the 28 years since the signing, the land should be returned to the state. And Alaska, if they wish to create new jobs and revenue, should feel free to allow drilling.

dominigan on May 28, 2008 at 10:26 PM

… until the 20,000,000 plus voting age new citizens (mainly from south of the border) realize they can vote freebies for themselves – along with all the lazy asses who are currently getting them.

BowHuntingTexas on May 28, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Easy solution to that: adopt my Constitutional Amendment, prohibiting anyone receiving goodies from the Federal government from voting in Federal elections.

See here.

MrLynn on May 28, 2008 at 10:28 PM

I have a recommendation… how about issuing an Executive Order returning ANWR back to the State of Alaska? . . .

dominigan on May 28, 2008 at 10:26 PM

Excellent idea! Write the Secretary of the Interior!

MrLynn on May 28, 2008 at 10:30 PM

I have a recommendation… how about issuing an Executive Order returning ANWR back to the State of Alaska? Since there are strict Constitutional requirements for acquiring lands for Federal control (which most national parks violate), and none of them have been met in the 28 years since the signing, the land should be returned to the state. And Alaska, if they wish to create new jobs and revenue, should feel free to allow drilling.

dominigan on May 28, 2008 at 10:26 PM

Let the citizens of Alaska make the decision. Works for me, and takes the issue off the table for the general election. It would be something Bush could do that would be good for the nation and good for his party since McCain is wrong on ANWR but wouldn’t have to talk about it if the area had been returned to the control of AK.

I like it.

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 10:39 PM

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened.”

-Norman Thomas, six-time Socialist presidential candidate, co-founder of the the precursor of the American Civil Liberties Union

amerpundit on May 28, 2008 at 7:14 PM

I had already figured this out. I didn’t know it was pre-planned. When was that quote from?

JiangxiDad on May 28, 2008 at 10:50 PM

His job was to lobby for bicycles in our city. Then six months ago, I saw him in the Whole Foods parking lot (probably just having bought arugula in support of Obama) and he was driving a SUV!

thuja on May 28, 2008 at 9:32 PM

In public they preach the water, in “private” they guzzle the wine.
- Entelechy

MB4 on May 28, 2008 at 10:51 PM

I hear this a lot, but it’s still mistaken. The Dems don’t need to override a veto to end the war. All a Dem Congress needs to do is stop allocating money for it, and there is nothing any president can do about it.

flenser on May 28, 2008 at 8:46 PM

Again, you forget the bully pulpit. It depends who occupies the Presidency. The Dem Congress can be stymied if the people are roused by the President. If the war is a top issue for someone, this is more reason to vote McCain.

JiangxiDad on May 28, 2008 at 10:52 PM

second-tier targets including Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina and Texas…

.
I humbly suggest the dems look elsewhere. None of these seats will change hands this fall – certainly not Texas, where not only will Cornyn win handily, but the dems will lose at least one house seat (TX 22) currently occupied (in the military sense) by Nick Lampson, who only got in because a Clinton appointed judge refused to allow a republican on the ballot.

Think_b4_speaking on May 28, 2008 at 10:58 PM

Entelechy

flenser, I agree fully with your (1) and (2) ideas on energy, but the liberals will not approve either.

Sure they will. We just need to start making the case. People used to say that liberals would never go for welfare reform. The right needs to get off its collective butt and start making the case for these things.

And you need to be for (3) also. The billion person America being conjured into existence will need staggering amounts of energy, more than we can ever produce ourselves. (Startling new scientific breakthroughs excepted.)

flenser on May 28, 2008 at 11:13 PM

It depends who occupies the Presidency. The Dem Congress can be stymied if the people are roused by the President.

Would these be the same people currently projected to hand the Dems large majorities in Congress? The same people who are against the war in all the polls?

You are grasping at straws, my friend. The war is going to be wound down over the next few years, barring some big new attack in the US. That will happen no matter who become President in November.

flenser on May 28, 2008 at 11:18 PM

When was that quote from?

JiangxiDad on May 28, 2008 at 10:50 PM

I’m pretty sure it was 1936.

flenser on May 28, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Gotta love watching a “True Conservative” like flenser join so happily with the MSM in a silly effort to depress GOP voters.

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 11:21 PM

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 10:01 PM

Primary is next week. (Talk about disenfranchised… The Dems here had theirs 5 months ago…in time to actually be be a part of the decision process…. Dumbass NM Republican Party… But that’s another story…. )

Yeah, I’ll vote for Heather if Steve loses the primary. ( I used to donate fairly generously to her campaigns, despite being out of her district, way back when she was actually a pretty good conservative.)
Despite her hard left turn during the last campaign, and turning quite nastily against Bush and the war before that, she is still ten steps closer to being a conservative than McCain and twenty steps closer than Udall.

LegendHasIt on May 28, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Gotta love all the liberals here rooting like crazy for the McCain. What do you guys care which liberal wins?

flenser on May 28, 2008 at 11:25 PM

McCAIN WANTS TO PRIVATIZE SOCIAL SECURITY
McCain Voted for Bush’s 2006 Social Security Privatization Plan. In 2006, McCain voted for the Social Security Reserve Fund. The proposal would shift Social Security’s annual surpluses into a reserve account that would be converted into risky private accounts. [SCR 83, Vote #68, 3/16/06; SCR 83, Vote #68, 3/16/06]

In 2000 McCain Wanted to Divert Social Security Money to Private Accounts. The Wall Street Journal reported that “[a] centerpiece of a McCain presidential bid in 2000 was a plan to divert a portion of Social Security payroll taxes to fund private accounts, much as President Bush proposed unsuccessfully.” The plan would put workers’ retirement money into the risky market and reduce the amount of Social Security payments they would receive from the government. The plan would undermine the Social Security system. [Wall Street Journal, 3/3/08]

McCain Might Raise the Retirement Age and Reduce Cost-of-Living Adjustments. “[T]he McCain campaign says the candidate intends to keep Social Security solvent by reducing the growth in benefits over the coming decades to match projected growth in payroll tax revenues. Among the options are extending the retirement age to 68 and reducing cost-of-living adjustments, but the campaign hasn’t made any final decisions. ‘You can’t keep promises made to retirees,’ said Mr. Holtz-Eakin, McCain’s chief economic aide.” [Wall Street Journal, 3/3/08]

McCain Voted to Replace Social Security with Risk-Based Investments. In 1998, McCain voted twice to replace Social Security’s guaranteed benefits with income from risk-based private investments. [SCR 86, Vote #56, 4/1/98; SCR 86, Vote #77, 4/1/98]

McCAIN ATTACKED MEDICARE
McCain Voted to Cut Billions from Medicare. McCain voted for the budget reconciliation bill that reduced spending on Medicare by $6.4 billion by requiring that beneficiariespurchase medical equipment and cutting payments to home health care providers. [S. 1932, Vote #363, 12/21/05; Congressional Quarterly, 12/26/05]

McCain Voted for Steep Increases in Seniors’ Medicare Premiums. McCain voted against protecting seniors from steep increases in their Medicare Part B premiums. Seniors faced the premium increase because Congress increased Medicare payments to physicians but failed to enact savings from Medicare payments to private health plans. [S. 1932, Vote #287, 11/3/05]

McCain Voted to Raise Medicare Eligibility Age. In 1997, McCain voted to support provisions that would increase the age for Medicare eligibility from 65 to 67 and impose a new $5 co-payment for home health care visits. [S. 947, Vote #112, 6/24/97; S. Amdt. 445, Vote #115, 6/25/97]

Whatta liberal!

funky chicken on May 28, 2008 at 11:37 PM

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