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Al Qaeda wonders how it lost Iraq

posted at 9:00 am on May 28, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Perhaps these might just come from the terrorists’ versions of Harry Reid, but Strategy Page reports that al-Qaeda websites have begun postmortems on their mission in Iraq. Given their belief that Allah has handed AQ a mandate to re-establish the Caliphate in a greater ummah, the network has to explain how they managed to lose the country set square in the middle of southwest Asia. Their explanations don’t differ much from ours, actually:

Al Qaeda web sites are making a lot of noise about “why we lost in Iraq.” Western intelligence agencies are fascinated by the statistics being posted in several of these Arab language sites. Not the kind of stuff you read about in the Western media. According to al Qaeda, their collapse in Iraq was steep and catastrophic. According to their stats, in late 2006, al Qaeda was responsible for 60 percent of the terrorist attacks, and nearly all the ones that involved killing a lot of civilians. The rest of the violence was carried out by Iraqi Sunni Arab groups, who were trying in vain to scare the Americans out of the country.

Today, al Qaeda has been shattered, with most of its leadership and foot soldiers dead, captured or moved from Iraq. As a result, al Qaeda attacks have declined more than 90 percent. Worse, most of their Iraqi Sunni Arab allies have turned on them, or simply quit. This “betrayal” is handled carefully on the terrorist web sites, for it is seen as both shameful, and perhaps recoverable.

Recovery looks increasingly unlikely. With the Iraqi Army now conducting operations throughout Iraq and the Americans able to focus on logistical support, the terrorists have fewer infidels to target. The Iraqis see the Americans as less of a threat than the lunatic jihadists who created tens of thousands of “involuntary martyrs”.

In this case, the arrogance of proclaiming the Caliphate under Osama’s leadership played a key role in the “betrayal” by Iraqi Sunni insurgents. Most of them fought to regain control over Iraq from the Shi’ites liberated from Sunni oppression with the fall of Saddam Hussein. The proclamation of the Caliphate under a foreign leader angered them, and as AQI proved itself inept against the counterinsurgency operations of General David Petraeus, it became a joke. It exposed AQ and AQI as pretenders, lunatic-fringe radicals who had no concept of governance other than through rape and murder.

Now AQ has a major public-relations and recruiting problem on its hands. As long as the network scored victories against the West, more radical Muslims could entertain the fantasy that Osama had that mandate from Allah to establish the supremacy of Islam. Now that Osama has lost Iraq, that fantasy has been dashed — and Osama exposed as just another pretender, with AQ as his butcher squad, one that kills many more Muslims than infidels. Their defeat shows that the violent jihad strategy fails when superior force gets brought to bear against it, which hardly points to a mandate from heaven.

That defeat will resonate throughout the Islamic world. The victory of rationality and democracy in Iraq cannot be denied, even by AQ itself.


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I noted last week when the new Osama tape came out that he had given up in Iraq and tried to switch focus to Palestine. Osama had repeatedly said that Iraq was the key in the roll on terror, including his tape earlier this year, then nothing.
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LifeTrek on May 28, 2008 at 9:04 AM

In this case, the arrogance of proclaiming the Caliphate under Osama’s leadership played a key role in the “betrayal” by Iraqi Sunni insurgents.

This was Al Qaeda’s Mission Accomplished moment.

BohicaTwentyTwo on May 28, 2008 at 9:05 AM

AQI won before they lost. Maybe Harry Reid should interview with them for a new job?

ParisParamus on May 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM

Now AQ has a major public-relations and recruiting problem on its hands.

When did Pelosi and Reid resign?

fogw on May 28, 2008 at 9:07 AM

I wonder which Pres candidate they are rooting for?

WisCon on May 28, 2008 at 9:08 AM

Sorry Paris, we’re on the same page anyway.

fogw on May 28, 2008 at 9:09 AM

we better win Iraq, its come at a steep political cost.

jp on May 28, 2008 at 9:15 AM

I can hear Pelosi and Reid sobbing…….

ctmom on May 28, 2008 at 9:20 AM

Allah says to al-Qaeda: Quittin’ time, boys. Back to your prayer rugs and beating your wives. Your efforts were baseless.

onlineanalyst on May 28, 2008 at 9:22 AM

The Surrender Monkey Trialateral Commission (Pelosi, Murtha and Reid) is so unbelievably mute on the subject of Iraq as of late. They are hoping that Americans do not notice the almost complete collapse of violnece in Iraq and in particular of AQI before November. This is the new “Silence is Golden” strategy of relying on American ignorance to keep them and their party from being hoisted upon their own pitard by the public.

NotCoach on May 28, 2008 at 9:24 AM

I’ll be waiting for the MSM to lead with this story on the national news tonight. I’ll be waiting for the MSM to lead with this story on the national news tonight. I’ll be waiting for the MSM to lead with this story on the national news tonight. Maybe if I say it enough times it’ll come true. Ya think?

sdd on May 28, 2008 at 9:24 AM

we better win Iraq, its come at a steep political cost.

jp on May 28, 2008 at 9:15 AM

Funny you should say that, cause I imagine that the Surrender Monkey Trilateral Commission (Pelosi, Murtha and Reid) are saying just the opposite to themselves. Or maybe something like, “Oh God, we’re winning in Iraq. Anyone have any ideas on how can we claim declaring we lost was taken out of context?”

NotCoach on May 28, 2008 at 9:27 AM

Looks like the flypaper strategy worked after all.

And to think how close we came last year to allowing Reid and Pelosi to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

rockmom on May 28, 2008 at 9:31 AM

NotCoach on May 28, 2008 at 9:27 AM

Honest to God, I wish some 527 group would run some ads that just loop the tape of Harry Reid saying “the war is lost.” Every Democrat running for Congress this year should have to answer for the Reid/Pelosi surrender strategy.

rockmom on May 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM

Worse, most of their Iraqi Sunni Arab allies have turned on them, or simply quit.

When you use piano wire to rip off the faces of children as a warning to their parents, it’s not too far off when you get repudiated and rejected…even ‘betrayed.’

This is great great news — Iraq will be a powerful victory and I know our troops will find solace in the honour they have earned. God bless our troops and the Iraqi troops.

Richard Romano on May 28, 2008 at 9:35 AM

Now AQ has a major public-relations and recruiting problem on its hands.

sarc:

But wait! I thought our presence in Iraq was helping AQ recruit more terrorists!

/sarc

Excellent, excellent commentary Ed.

Red Pill on May 28, 2008 at 9:38 AM

We won’t have won in Iraq till Iran is fixed, and I mean that in the kindest possible way. IMO, that is one of the major reasons we went in, and would be one of the biggest losses if Obama pulls us out prematurely.

a capella on May 28, 2008 at 9:38 AM

That defeat will resonate throughout the Islamic world. The victory of rationality and democracy in Iraq cannot be denied, even by AQ itself.

Too bad we’ll surrender first, if the left has its way. The MoveOn left will deny Bush this victory at almost any cost.

petefrt on May 28, 2008 at 9:39 AM

When was the last time a group who killed innocent people to advance their cause succeeded?

Del Dolemonte on May 28, 2008 at 9:42 AM

I wonder which Pres candidate they are rooting for?

WisCon on May 28, 2008 at 9:08 AM

Hum? I am thinking they like B. Hussain Al Tikriti Obama best.

TheSitRep on May 28, 2008 at 9:44 AM

“WTF?!” -Osama

Akzed on May 28, 2008 at 9:44 AM

Yay America! Now whoever is the next president will claim credit for war victory. . . even Obama.

ThackerAgency on May 28, 2008 at 9:44 AM

Great day in the morning, Ed!

It’s like Michael Yon said.

AQ just wouldn’t learn.

It’s not odd that the uber-left kept screaming that Iraq was a diversion from the REAL target for our attention: Afghanistan. That within these 5 years, Iraq has transformed from a miserable dictatorship into a democracy with MORE national identity now than ever imagined previously possible at their origination under King Faisal I. The years have been taxing on everyone, but the efforts of our military have allowed miraculous results. That the uber-left would deny Iraqis shows the Left’s own design–to ruin all.

That the so-called 100 year was would actually be in Afghanistan was a sad commentary to hear on the Memorial Day encore presentation. Considering that the Afghan farmers are willing to grow legitimate crops if only they could get them to market to sustain a living, where’s the Western financing for agricultural industies to can and dry package fruit, or mill the grain, bag and package ready for transport? And what of the transportation industry by air–helicopters and protected flight patterns. A lot of American good will goes towards the Afghans suffering from AQ TERROR–but talk is cheap.

maverick muse on May 28, 2008 at 9:52 AM

Watch for senior members of the democrat party to don black arm bands.

jeff_from_mpls on May 28, 2008 at 9:53 AM

was war

maverick muse on May 28, 2008 at 9:53 AM

the terrorists’ versions of Harry Reid

Reid will be remembered for this by History. Anytime a football coach during a half time interveiw says ‘we already lost’ he will be said to have “pulled a Harry Reid”.

Tony737 on May 28, 2008 at 9:54 AM

Too bad we’ll surrender first, if the left has its way. The MoveOn left will deny Bush this victory at almost any cost.

petefrt on May 28, 2008 at 9:39 AM

Actually, it all motivates Bush to seal the deal before departure; get that Iraqi alliance treaty signed for our military installation strategically placed to combat Iran and permission for flights over Iraq. When push comes to shove, Bush does his best.

maverick muse on May 28, 2008 at 9:57 AM

Del Dolemonte on May 28, 2008 at 9:42 AM

Soviets, Chicoms, Vietcong, IRA, Burmese military, etc.

OldEnglish on May 28, 2008 at 9:58 AM

Quite the contrary, I await the moment when Democrats start telling us that their constant calls for retreat and failure were what finally created this Iraq breakthrough. Frankly, we couldn’t have won without Democrats telling us we’d lost for the last 5 years.

Lehosh on May 28, 2008 at 9:59 AM

Tony737 on May 28, 2008 at 9:54 AM

conversely, when a team pulls victory out of presumed defeat, they pulled a “W” on their opponent.

maverick muse on May 28, 2008 at 9:59 AM

Soviets, Chicoms, Vietcong, IRA, Burmese military, etc.

OldEnglish on May 28, 2008 at 9:58 AM

IRA never got what they wanted. And all of your other examples are of groups who took control of nations. If that is the standard then yes, being murderous thugs can pay off. But I think that is the point of this post, is it not? If you can not ultimately rule the nation of the people you are murdering don’t expect ticker tape parades from those families you have victimized.

NotCoach on May 28, 2008 at 10:04 AM

That it only took 5 years to see a silver lining in the Iraqi storm front is a welcome surprise. Thank God for miracles large and small. It surely helps to have some success for the record.

While speaking out of one side of his mouth about his non-existant relative who freed prisoners from Auschwitz, Obama placates those who deny that the holocaust ever occurred. This is the best that the MSM/DNC can give America?

maverick muse on May 28, 2008 at 10:06 AM

bet bin-laden is praying 5 times a day for an obama victory…

right4life on May 28, 2008 at 10:16 AM

A lot of American good will goes towards the Afghans suffering from AQ TERROR–but talk is cheap.

Military aid: take possession of the mountain tops surrounding agricultural areas. Then build refineries/processing plants for produce. Farmers no longer NEED the opium crop, and are protected in their endeavors to grow legitimate crops. AQ and the drug cartels lose the supply.

Seems more effective more quickly than beginning from the top, removing gov’t, rebuilding gov’t., etc.–worth a try given the 100-year scenario already painted of Afghanistan.

$.02

maverick muse on May 28, 2008 at 10:16 AM

right4life on May 28, 2008 at 10:16 AM

You just obligated yourself to pray 5X daily for Obama’s defeat.

amen.

maverick muse on May 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM

NotCoach on May 28, 2008 at 10:04 AM

Del Dolemonte’s post referred to the lack of success of groups who murder innocents. My reply listed some who were successful. As for the IRA, they are in government, and they still possess their (modern) weapons. I would call that success, especially since they tried to kill me at one point.

OldEnglish on May 28, 2008 at 10:23 AM

I don’t see the big lefties lining up to be human shields.

These phonies only volunteer when America’s enemies have the strength to protect them. But once the enemy starts losing, it’s — “oh, sorry, can’t be a human shield today, I gotta go stop global warming dude.”

jeff_from_mpls on May 28, 2008 at 10:26 AM

You just obligated yourself to pray 5X daily for Obama’s defeat.

amen.

don’t have to, he’s already defeated….I’ve read the back of the book ;-)

right4life on May 28, 2008 at 10:29 AM

The IRA equivalent in Iraq isn’t AQ, it’s the Sadrists. They have a beef that looks legitimate in a dim enough light, they were and are prepared to get violent to gain notice, and they will be at least in some way(s) incorporated into the legitimate Government. The parallels aren’t exact, but they do exist.

What interests me is that Iraq may have taught us how to deal with Afghanistan, rather than the reverse.

Regards,
Ric

warlocketx on May 28, 2008 at 10:32 AM

Actually, it all motivates Bush to seal the deal before departure; get that Iraqi alliance treaty signed for our military installation strategically placed to combat Iran and permission for flights over Iraq. When push comes to shove, Bush does his best.

maverick muse on May 28, 2008 at 9:57 AM

Exactly. From a Reid/Pelosi stndpoint, the worst thing that could happen would be for Bush to use Iraq to neutralize Iranian nuclear capability, after diplomatic efforts by the EU have failed. Obama won’t use the capability, even as leverage, so that’s another reason McCain needs to win the election.

a capella on May 28, 2008 at 10:35 AM

Del Dolemonte’s post referred to the lack of success of groups who murder innocents. My reply listed some who were successful. As for the IRA, they are in government, and they still possess their (modern) weapons. I would call that success, especially since they tried to kill me at one point.

OldEnglish on May 28, 2008 at 10:23 AM

Almost 100 years of terror and they did not achieve their stated goal of wresting English controlled areas of Ireland from the Brits. I suppose success is all relative depending on ones view point in such a complicated situation that exists there. Now if only all other Brits could keep their arms as well in order to better be able to defend themselves maybe the IRA would dry up entirely in the face of an angry armed citizenry.

And sorry to hear about your experience with the IRA. I hope you or anyone else was not hurt in that situation. I would despise with a passion any thugs who tried to do me or my family harm as well.

NotCoach on May 28, 2008 at 10:38 AM

This war was costly, it was waged in almost the worst way possible, and it destroyed a presidency and a congressional majority. Yet, it is about to be won. Truly gratifying.

My fantasy is to see Bush have a news conference in January with all the Republican congressmen and senators who lost in 2006, so all of them can gloat.

rockmom on May 28, 2008 at 10:39 AM

rockmom on May 28, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Republicans lost their majority in 2006 because many voters were sick and tired of what they saw as a corrupt money sucking group that had lost its conservative way. Electing Blue Dogs is not exactly an embrace of Pelosi politics.

NotCoach on May 28, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Maybe I should change my original question-When was the last time a group who brutally and sadistically tortured and then killed innocent people to advance their cause succeeded?

Del Dolemonte on May 28, 2008 at 10:48 AM

Al-Qaeda is so stupid. Don’t they even read American newspapers, or listen to the news?

They won, and they don’t even know.

misterpeasea on May 28, 2008 at 10:52 AM

Honest to God, I wish some 527 group would run some ads that just loop the tape of Harry Reid saying “the war is lost.”

rockmom on May 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM

Wouldn’t that just be delicious?

Of course, somebody’s Presidential candidate would get all bent out of shape about how it’s not honorable.

It’s funny, Republicans fight elections the way Democrats have made us fight wars since WW2: they don’t fight to win, they fight not to lose. And to minimize enemy casualties. And with rules by which the enemy doesn’t abide.

misterpeasea on May 28, 2008 at 10:57 AM

NotCoach on May 28, 2008 at 10:38 AM

Thank you for your concern. My fiance and I were on the rim of an explosion, so no physical injury – only anger at being targeted as part of an innocent group.

As to the question of an armed citizenry – spot on!

Del Dolemonte on May 28, 2008 at 10:48 AM

Same answer, I’m afraid.

OldEnglish on May 28, 2008 at 11:00 AM

Al Qaeda wonders how it lost Iraq

Non sequitur. Al Qaeda didn’t lose Iraq. Al Qaeda never had Iraq.

MB4 on May 28, 2008 at 11:11 AM

OldEnglish on May 28, 2008 at 11:00 AM

I should have added that I don’t hate the Irish – my wife is a Kilkenny Cat :)

OldEnglish on May 28, 2008 at 11:12 AM

If this place gets stablilzed, there’s a ton of potential for Iraq to be rolling in capital. I work in Basrah and there are 13 refineries dotted all along the horizon and they’re going full-bore every day. 2 new drilling sites just popped up in the past week.

At $120+/barrel they could put a big dent in their financial needs for many years to come. There are obviously no EPA/environmental hurdles to clear in this part of the world so until the US is able to produce more, Iraq could be a great trading partner.

With US/NATO oversight, nuclear power would be an amazing resouce in the region as well.

JetBlast on May 28, 2008 at 11:51 AM

I thought we lost Iraq, according to the Democrats

ToddonCapeCod on May 28, 2008 at 11:53 AM

I thought we lost Iraq, according to the Democrats

ToddonCapeCod on May 28, 2008 at 11:53 AM

Well one thing we know for sure, Islam hasn’t lost Iraq.

MB4 on May 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM

I believe many Americans were unhappy with Bush and the Iraq war because we were not achieving success and we needd to do more. Now that the military is achieving success on the ground, the American people are willing to support that success. This should be the primary talking point until November. The contrast between perserverance leading to success and a premature throwing in of the towel should be the basis for a resurgance of Republicans (conservative) in the House and Senate.The American voters will rally around “Bush was right and we are winning”.

jerseyman on May 28, 2008 at 12:18 PM

AQ sure said it “had Iraq”…

major john on May 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Soviets, Chicoms, Vietcong, IRA, Burmese military, etc.

We saw what happened when the Soviets lost control. Most of the actual rulers got “retired”, some permanently. That’s probably what keeps the Chicoms and Burmese awake at night.

The IRA had their own version of The Surge: change tactics and actually play nice. Otherwise, they would found themselves a bit short in support.

The Vietcong? mostly wiped out in Tet offensive but US/ASV forces. Became a wholey owned and operated subsidary of Uncle Ho. I would imagine that a number of VC ended up in Vietnamese “reducation” camps after the war.

I R A Darth Aggie on May 28, 2008 at 12:26 PM

If Ed’s analysis is correct, then we dodged a major bullet on Iraq. If AQI/AQ was using Iraq as proof that they had a mandate from Allah … Then if we had retreated when the Democrats demanded it, like say back in 2004 or 2005, I bet the ummah would’ve bought that as evidence that al Qaeda is divinely inspired.

Thank God. Even at this point if Obama gets elected and rips US forces out of Iraq, things will be bad, but it wont be a victory for al Qaeda.

apollyonbob on May 28, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Well one thing we know for sure, Islam hasn’t lost Iraq.
–MB4 on May 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM

One would hope that with Democracy, freedom of or from religion would follow. These peoples’ belief in the Almighty is absolute. Imagine an Iraq where the teachings of Jesus Christ were followed as strictly as the teachings of the Koran…

Swinehound on May 28, 2008 at 1:56 PM

The naive New Republic

MB4 on May 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Imagine an Iraq where the teachings of Jesus Christ were followed as strictly as the teachings of the Koran…

Swinehound on May 28, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Imagine there’s no Islam
It’s hard but you can try
No suicide hijackers coming down at us
Above us only sky
Imagine all those people
Still alive today…

Imagine there’s no Islamic countries
It’s hard but you can try
No Mohammad for them to kill or die for
And no Imams too
Imagine all the Christians, Jews and Infidels
Living life without them…

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday all dhimmis will join us
And the non-Islamic world will be as one

Imagine no Burkhas
I wonder if you can
No need for Medina or Meca
A brotherhood of non-Islamic woman and man
Imagine all the people
Living without Shariha…

You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday all dhimmis will join us
And the non-Islamic world will be as one

MB4 on May 28, 2008 at 3:32 PM

AQ sure said it “had Iraq”…

major john on May 28, 2008 at 12:22 PM

They fibbed. They do that a lot.

MB4 on May 28, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Al Qaeda web sites are making a lot of noise about “why we lost in Iraq.”

It’s the terror, stupid.

Tantor on May 28, 2008 at 4:52 PM

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