Social cons to McCain: Just say no to Crist as VP
posted at 3:34 pm on May 27, 2008 by Allahpundit
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David Brody puts a finger in the wind. Lots of reasons are given, Crist’s squishiness on abortion (and, related, Schiavo) foremost among them, but I confess that I came away from the piece with the same impression as Marc Ambinder about the real dealbreaker lurking in the shadows here. Part of me wonders if that’s just me reading my own stereotypes of social conservatives onto the sample Brody surveyed, but some of the language is sufficiently loaded — hinting that Crist’s “not one of us,” wondering why McCain hasn’t said much about the California gay marriage ruling — that I don’t think I am. Besides, Romney’s been squishy on abortion too and plenty of social cons (although certainly not all) are fine with him.
Whatever the truth is about Crist, while I’m happy to take him at his word and frankly wouldn’t care either way, plenty of people won’t be and some will consider it grounds to stay home. It is, after all, unthinkable for an openly gay pol to be on the GOP ticket — or on the Democratic ticket, for that matter. Then again, what exactly are his qualifications to be on the ticket in the first place? He’s been governor for three years and a state AG for four before that, plus ten years in the state legislature. He’s roughly as experienced as, ahem, Barack Obama. If not for the fact that he’s from a key swing state, no one would pay him attention, and thanks to McCain’s support among Latinos we may not even need any extra help in Florida this year. Like I said the other day in a different context, if you’re going to play chicken with evangelicals by putting a pro-choicer on the ticket, why not make a run at Pennsylvania by naming Ridge?
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I can’t tell you how long that rumor has been running around down here in florida
infidel2 on May 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM
I doubt McCain will need help carrying Florida. Like you said, he has support amongst Latinos, but I’ve also noted more than one conservative Democrat getting behind him.
amerpundit on May 27, 2008 at 3:39 PM
And this kind of crap, my friends, is the reason why the GOP will lose in November.
Ian on May 27, 2008 at 3:40 PM
However, come to think of it, It would be fun to watch the Media hypocritically try to call him teh ghey while attempting to save face.
infidel2 on May 27, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Stay home and you are a traitor
tomas on May 27, 2008 at 3:42 PM
AP, was that a for instance or are you saying Crist is openly gay? I’ve read it’s been alleged, but not that he’s “out”. Crist also has that pesky matter re: being open slavery repararations, right?
CP on May 27, 2008 at 3:43 PM
This guy is a loser McCain, run from him, not with him.
Maxx on May 27, 2008 at 3:44 PM
He’s been governor for three years…
Not to split hairs but he’s only been Gov. for 16 months. And if we do lose Florida it may be because he saw to it that hundreds of thousands of felons (probably 90+ % democrats) had their voting privileges restored.
Surely we can do better.
BuzzCrutcher on May 27, 2008 at 3:45 PM
Heh,”Crist isn’t one of us”. Uuh… McCain is?
tomk59 on May 27, 2008 at 3:45 PM
RINO’s like McCain got the california judges on the bench. It really is a crapshoot voting for McCain
PrezHussein on May 27, 2008 at 3:45 PM
I suggest to you that if the Republicans could nominate, as Veep, someone who was limited government, lower spending/tax cutting, pro-national security and pro-life it wouldn’t matter one whit whether he or she were gay as long as they weren’t either 1) flagrantly displaying it a la political demonstrations 2) using it to advance a political agenda or 3) conducting it surreptitiously.
BigD on May 27, 2008 at 3:46 PM
You ask why are people even talking about Crist?
It’s the tan baby!
Clark1 on May 27, 2008 at 3:46 PM
WHOA!!! I did NOT know Crist is gay. I didn’t even know he was allegedly gay. I guess I know nothing about him. Shame on me.
For God’s sake! Let’s not give the base any more reason to stay home.
Oink on May 27, 2008 at 3:46 PM
No, he’s not openly gay. Follow the Ambinder link for that. However, Southern Baptist friends down here believed the rumor and still voted for him.
I’m feeling good about McCain. The conservatives will likely put on their MM nose plugs and vote for him while he is out there competing with Obama for the Democrat vote. I’ve got my noseplugs and will not let my country down.
BTW do I get half a McCain point for this post or do the “nose plug” references mean no point for me?
infidel2 on May 27, 2008 at 3:47 PM
That is terrible news! Disproportionate number of blacks added to vote for Obama
PrezHussein on May 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM
If he picks this guy, you might very well be right. This election is McCain’s to lose, if he pokes his conservative base in the eye one more time, people might very well allow him to lose. And why not, he is showing nothing but contempt for his base.
Maxx on May 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Yeah, but what’s going to happen in 2016? Will the country be ready for a gay POTUS?
This is just one more way to poke the base in the eye.
Oink on May 27, 2008 at 3:49 PM
McCain to Social cons: #uck you! I know more than any of you!
MB4 on May 27, 2008 at 3:49 PM
WOW! Great minds think alike!
Oink on May 27, 2008 at 3:49 PM
I like how everyone that McCain looks at for VP is attacked for “not being one of us”, and yet there never seems to be any candidates provided that are “one of us”. This petty infighting is getting to be consistent with the democrats, and we need to stop it. For if we don’t, there goes the presidency.
ViperPilot on May 27, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Whoa . . .I was in no way advocating Crist for the VP slot. That was just an aside.
Thopson or some ultra-conservative is what I want.
infidel2 on May 27, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Great point – hold your nose.
infidel2 on May 27, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Crist is McCain is McCain is McCain.
He is a lefty on global warming. He is a lefty on immigration (I think). He is a lefty on social issues.
And he’s too darned bronze.
emailnuevo on May 27, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Why not just pick a black gay transgendered VP and outobama obama?
Who says we can’t be as racist/sexist as the dems?
SaintOlaf on May 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM
What’s that old saying? My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy?
SoulGlo on May 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM
I’ve said it many times before, and here, again…Crist will get the veep nod.
But again, it’s not that important. A veep isn’t going to have the clout in a McCain administration that Cheney has had in the Bush admin.
For the veep, it’s back to “table scraps”, as McCain described the office.
JetBoy on May 27, 2008 at 3:54 PM
RedPill says Huckabee will win, but we will see. I will be a sad day if Christ does get the nod
infidel2 on May 27, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Maxx on May 27, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Bob Schindler is being considered as a Veep?
DaveS on May 27, 2008 at 3:58 PM
It doesn’t really have that much to do with party infighting. It has to do with the pool of candidates, and how well they connect with their voting blocs.
I think that if the Republicans actually had a solid, comprehensively conservative candidate (disclosure: I was for Mitt, he or she would have tied things up prettily handily.
BigD on May 27, 2008 at 3:58 PM
It will be a sad day if C
hrist does get the nod.Use Preview, use preview, use preview.
infidel2 on May 27, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Mccain will pick Huckabee.
He has no choice in the matter.
If he wants to win he’s got to do what he’s got to do.
SaintOlaf on May 27, 2008 at 3:58 PM
This post reminds me of something that would be posted at AmericaBlog.
I agree with Ian.
MayBee on May 27, 2008 at 4:00 PM
My first thought on the running mate question is that to balance his ticket, Barack Obama should pick a really old white general. Therefore, he should pick Dwight Eisenhower. John McCain, on the other hand, needs to pick someone younger than himself. Therefore, he also should pick Dwight Eisenhower.
- David Brooks
MB4 on May 27, 2008 at 4:02 PM
If McCain were to appoint too strong of a social con as VP, it would be the only way that the Dems would be able to successfully play the “four more years card”. McCain needs to find someone who will piss off no member of his electorial coalition. It’s not an easy task. I’d suggest the governor of Alaska, because not only will she not annoy most possible McCain voters, she’ll undercut the Obama as member of victim class meme.
thuja on May 27, 2008 at 4:02 PM
The rumors about Gov. Crist are pure BS. The politics in this state are dirty enough that, if there were any truth to the allegations, he would have been “outed” a long time ago. He is a single man over forty — therefore people talk. Ditto for the rumors about Secretary Rice.
The pure sweet irony of the situation is that I know many Evangelical social cons who voted for Charlie Crist. They heard the rumors and shrugged them off with an attitude of, “at least he’s not a Democrat.”
Anton on May 27, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Woo hoo! This is where things will get fun! Who can McCain pick that will make the base happy? Not Huckabee. Not Crist. Not Romney. Fred already said no. There are other choices left, most either inexperienced or not much name recognition. He could throw everyone for a loop with Lieberman! How would that fly in the face of social cons? His best bet is to pick a good conservative despite no name recognition. However, I’m sure he’ll shoot himself in the foot. How fun!
Jay on May 27, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Doesn’t matter who gets the veep slot. They are usually ceremonial only. Rush Limbaugh could get the veep slot and would have zero influence on the McCain administration.
The only way I would vote McCain is if he totally repented of his liberal acts. He continues to daily expound on his left-wing agenda for America. No thanks.
Valiant on May 27, 2008 at 4:03 PM
If Mccain picks Crist as VP…don’t even bother voting…Mccain has obviously figured out how to rig the election.
SaintOlaf on May 27, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Right, because we’re all homophobes. Got the message last time loud and clear.
Then again, I’d say we’re going to lose because we’ve got a crappy candidate who’s snubbed his base more times than the Democrats he’s running against, not to mention the fact that historically we should lose anyway, but who am I?
If my opinion counted, I would have at least been given a chance to vote in the primary. It’s a joke that we don’t all vote at once. The logic in our current primary system completely escapes me.
Esthier on May 27, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Umm, nice try but I don’t think there really are any rumors about Ms. Rice. She works hard, likes to shop and has been known to bring male sports executives as dates to official functions.
BigD on May 27, 2008 at 4:09 PM
I thought David Brooks column that was in the headlines this morning had a great take on the VP slot.
Get someone who will help you govern since they haven’t been shown to help you win.
infidel2 on May 27, 2008 at 4:09 PM
It bums me out that Sanford isn’t getting more attention as a possible veep (though I’m hoping against hope it’s so he can be pulled out as a “surprise” choice). He’s one of the few people in the GOP who can lay some claim to fiscal conservatism. He’s also supposedly strong with social cons, without coming off as teh crazy like shit-for-brains Huckabee. Plus he’s pretty tan, except when compared to Crist.
BuzzCrutcher on May 27, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Right, because Huck obviously carries so much weight what with losing the primary as badly as he did.
Esthier on May 27, 2008 at 4:10 PM
NO. NO. NO.
If McCain looks OLD standing next to Obama, he looks positively SICKLY standing next to the ridiculously overtanned Crist.
ctmom on May 27, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Esthier on May 27, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Maybe you are unaware of the fact that Huck is still almost winning primaries months after he dropped out.
SOCIAL CONS TO MCCAIN: NO HUCKABEE VP… NO VOTE FOR MCCAIN.
SaintOlaf on May 27, 2008 at 4:14 PM
According to Allah’s headline it looks like Crist is being considered as Veep.
Maxx on May 27, 2008 at 4:15 PM
McCain’s VP choice is going to get more attention than most, since at 72, McCain would be the oldest man to be sworn in as President (if he wins).
I don’t know — or care — if Crist is gay or not. He is simply too liberal for me. If he were an actual conservative, I’d be happy to see him on the ticket and would have no problem voting for him.
AZCoyote on May 27, 2008 at 4:16 PM
The Rice = Lesbian rumor has been floated several times.
Lehosh on May 27, 2008 at 4:16 PM
I agree. Brooks made a strong case for Pawlenty.
At this point, I don’t think Huckabee has a shot. Picking him would neutralize a lot of potential talking points against Obama. Huckabee is gaffe-prone, a fact that Dems are sure to use to deflect criticism of their candidate. Also, if Huckabee is chosen, someone will get their hands on his old sermons – in that case, let the cheap, hackish moral equivalence between him and Jeremiah Wright begin in the media.
Slublog on May 27, 2008 at 4:17 PM
It is a fact of life that McCain looks old and sickly standing next to anyone except Robert Byrd.
He’ll get some bronzer/makeup help when it comes to the general election, because obviously he cannot go out and get some rays, even a few.
But extreme palor will not be a plus.
BigD on May 27, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Almost winning? Whatever meds you’re on must be worth it.
Esthier on May 27, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Plus, he’s angered a lot of social cons who don’t agree with his politics or with the way he wears his religion on his sleeve.
As polls have already shown, people will stay home rather than vote Huck.
Esthier on May 27, 2008 at 4:20 PM
I won’t believe the rumors about Crist are true until John Kerry says they are. And tells us it’s perfectly okay.
MrScribbler on May 27, 2008 at 4:20 PM
To make it simple, neat, and keep EVERYONE HAPPY:
Republican Ticket: McCain / Obama
Democrat Ticket: Obama / McCain
This way it becomes a true popularity contest without anyone really feeling bad about losing. We do not have to wait for a concession speech and we are united together. Let the healing begin. (Along with the disaster – while everyone can take the blame equally.)
jerseyman on May 27, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Actually polls have shown that more people would stay home if Mccain is nominee.
Don’t lie Esthier.
Huckabee had the lowest number of stay homes compared with every other candidate.
SaintOlaf on May 27, 2008 at 4:22 PM
If John McCain wants to get the social conservative vote (my guess is that he doesn’t give a rodent’s behind about trying to get support under the misguided assumption that he already has this voting bloc sewn up) but if he wants the social conservative vote, the VP nominee will have to be somebody of the right credentials- and Crist isn’t it.
highhopes on May 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM
There’s no if. McCain IS the nominee.
I’m not talking about Huck as the nominee. He lost that already despite what you seem to believe.
I’m talking about him as VP. He even lost out to a Democrat right here.
You saw the poll yourself and know I’m not lying.
Esthier on May 27, 2008 at 4:27 PM
HotAir is NOT representative of the republican party Esthier.
There are many, many libertarians (read: fanatic social liberals who think they’re conservatives)here.
SaintOlaf on May 27, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Also, Re; Esthier
What “base” are you talking about? The conservatives never really were McCain’s base.
And conservatives, specifically social conservatives, need to get over the fact that this election is not about them. Guys, there aren’t a majority of you anymore in the Republican party. You wasted your political capital by electing Bush and supporting his ilk for the past 6 or 7 years.
Ian on May 27, 2008 at 4:32 PM
The reqirements for a good running mate are:
1.) No message conflict. McCain can’t pick someone to “appease the base” if that will just raise questions about which message is the “real” one.
2.) More governing experience than Obama. It’s pretty obvious that McCain is going to make “experience” one of the main themes of his campaign. Picking someone like Bobby Jindal, Sarah Palin, or even Mitt Romney, will effectively remove that advantage.
3.) Appeal to moderate voters. As much as conservatives would like to have their own champion in the VP spot, McCain needs to be sure his prospective administration does not look too much like Bush’s. As always, elections are won in the middle, and McCain will have to embrace that. I’m not saying that he can’t pick a conservative, but any no-compromise crusader type is effectively ruled out.
Based on these criteria, Pawlenty seems about as likely a choice as any of the others. Crist is a bit thin on #2.
Big S on May 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM
You seem to be forgetting that there are literally MILLION of Huckabee supporters who are still,TO THIS DAY, emailing Mccain and telling him they won’t vote for him unless he picks Huck…
If Mccain decides to say FU to us…then he can go down in flames and we can take our party back from the RINO’s.
SaintOlaf on May 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM
It’s a question of pro-life AllahP. All conservative world views should flow from a pro-life (for humans) view. Otherwise, they are conservative lite. And your disdain for “social conservatives” is sickening.
kirkill on May 27, 2008 at 4:39 PM
I’m sorry, but Mitt Romney could pick McCain up, twirl him around on his fork and eat him for breakfast in terms of experience (pardon the mixed metaphors).
McCain’s experience is as a career politician funded by his wife’s father.
BigD on May 27, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Oh trust me, I’m over it. I’m just not going to step in line and support McCain, at least not without a decent reason. The war isn’t enough, and I’ve yet to hear a more compelling reason.
And for me personally, I haven’t done anything to support Bush since 2000. I didn’t vote for him in ‘04 and haven’t liked much of what he’s done in the last few years other than his support of Iraq, so your point is lost on me there.
Besides, even if conservatives aren’t a majority anymore (though I’m not entirely convinced they aren’t), the GOP will die without them. That’s just a fact. There aren’t enough conservatives to form a third party, but there are enough conservatives to harm the GOP, a party I find fewer reasons for each day to support.
Esthier on May 27, 2008 at 4:41 PM
I don’t like the idea of voting for a want to be victim of melanoma as VP. Hasn’t the message got across how bad excessive sun can be for the skin?
thuja on May 27, 2008 at 4:45 PM
No the conservatives were not his base, but then McCain said “All your base are belong to us” and now conservatives must vote for him
infidel2 on May 27, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Crist seems like a bad choice just from an esthetic point of view. I mean they both have WHITE hair. He’s already got the age thing going against him – and then to add another WHITE haired veep just seems like asking for trouble. It shouldn’t matter,but in today’s television age Leno, Letterman, Colbert, and Stewart would have a field day with it.
Not only would the Republican ticket be two white males, but they both have snow-domes. Seems like a bad photo waiting to happen.
joncoltonis on May 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Very obviously not. If it were, McCain wouldn’t have won, and Huck would still be a preacher.
That doesn’t mean the people here don’t count. It’s likely that Hot Air posters are more likely to vote (without Huck as VP that is) than those who gave Huck his “respectable” approval rating.
And of course you’re the one to judge. It’s fitting.
Esthier on May 27, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Mitt was a governor for four years, which is the same amount of time Obama will have been in office in January. His record as governor has no “signature” accomplishments on it.
Big S on May 27, 2008 at 4:50 PM
I said it before, I’ll say it again- pick Crist and I’ll be pissed. It’s the mixture of illegal alien pandering and Terry Schiavo that makes a toxic mess of Crist. I wasn’t aware of the sexual orientation crap.
MITT! MITT! MITT!
Please?
NTWR on May 27, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Mitt
Well…he did legislate $50 abortions and help get gay marriage instituted.
SaintOlaf on May 27, 2008 at 4:52 PM
And lose big. It will take years to get out of the Bush damage, and this is a terrible start.
Wade on May 27, 2008 at 4:52 PM
What a breathtaking display of untruth.
Slublog on May 27, 2008 at 4:54 PM
I think he was accutely aware, the law was on the husbands side in this one, all of Jebs acrobatics and other nonsense aside.
Squid Shark on May 27, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Is that a reference to Crist or McCain?
Or does the question answer itself?
locomotivebreath1901 on May 27, 2008 at 4:59 PM
I don’t think so buddy.
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/
http://thereaganwing.wordpress.com/2007/12/13/romney-50-abortions-in-massachusetts/
SaintOlaf on May 27, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Is this the same Ian that was working for HotAir? I never knew you felt that way. And I strongly disagree with you. Bush has done very well for us in most areas. Weak on immigration issues to be sure, but he has been steadfast on guns, the war, abortion, really on global warming too, he has only paid lip service to that fraud. He has been steadfast on many, I would say most conservative issues. I’m happy with Bush’s overall performance and I know we will miss him when he’s gone.
As for the base I’m talking about, we are still here and most of us would support McCain if for no other reason he would probably prosecute the war properly. But McCain sure likes to poke us in the eye, I’ve already decided I will not vote for him on the global warming issue alone. But if he insults conservatives again with this very weak Crist pick he will lose many more votes than he gains.
Maxx on May 27, 2008 at 5:01 PM
While we all would prefer to vote for something instead of against something, at the end of the day, we all vote for our best interests. I cannot for the life of me see any way that having Obamanation in office for even one day is in my best interests.
Remember Harriet Myers? The blogs and talk radio got that situation straightened out. With McCain, you probably have about a 50/50 chance of having an effect on him with these methods. With Obama, your chance of effecting policy is 0%.
Kafir on May 27, 2008 at 5:04 PM
As for the rumors….I don’t give a damn.
My problem with Crist is what does he bring? As far as I can tell the one and only thing he has going for him is Florida and I think Johnny can pull Florida without him. He is no worse, or better, and any other moderate Republican on the issues.
I agree with Allah that PA is the player we need, but Rich is about as exciting as Hubert Humphrey. It is a long time to the convention and all this rush to choose a VP is nonsense.
Limerick on May 27, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Uh, huh.
And on the subject of $50 abortions, the state supreme court ruled that any state-subsidized plan must pay for abortion.
I find it truly regrettable how many evangelicals were willing to twist the truth to support a second-rate candidate like Huckabee.
Slublog on May 27, 2008 at 5:06 PM
I know that Crist is going to get all the T.C.’s panties in a wad, so I would oppose him for Veep on those grounds alone.
I interned for him both as a legislator and as A.G., he is a good, solid man with a true love for his state and a desire to govern the entire population.
T.C.’s dont like him because he is a populist. He has also lowered out taxes here. He unfortunately has managed ot get on the wrong side of former house speaker Marco Rubio, who is not qualified to manage a small business much less a legislative session.
If he is gay, I dont care. I do not want him to be Veep because I want him to stay here in FL.
Squid Shark on May 27, 2008 at 5:08 PM
There are many, many libertarians (read: fanatic social liberals who think they’re conservatives)here.
SaintOlaf on May 27, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Wow, that post was dripping with superciliousness. What a surprise! (Not!)
linlithgow on May 27, 2008 at 5:09 PM
sorry…Ridge not Rich
Limerick on May 27, 2008 at 5:09 PM
I find Crist to be a poor choice based on the limited stuff I’ve heard about him. But better teh ghey than this.
phronesis on May 27, 2008 at 5:09 PM
Agreed, Crist is so popular across the board here that his endorsement is more than enough.
Squid Shark on May 27, 2008 at 5:10 PM
SaintOlaf do Catholics and Mormons belong to cults?
PrezHussein on May 27, 2008 at 5:11 PM
Did good with the tax cut, but then, oops, failed to make a case for spending restraint. So after 2010, bye bye tax cuts.
dedalus on May 27, 2008 at 5:12 PM
I’ve said this before, but in 2004, my roommate was fine with the “anyone but Bush” slogan. I told her voting against something would never work, especially after she left Dean’s camp for Kerry’s for the sole reason that he would be better against Bush.
It didn’t work for them then. Maybe it will work for us, somehow. I just don’t believe it will. I’m not even convinced I want it to work to be honest. I haven’t liked McCain since 2000 and that was just because of campaign finance reform.
Esthier on May 27, 2008 at 5:12 PM
What have you heard, some of it might be based on the whiny ranting of the good Rep Rubio.
Squid Shark on May 27, 2008 at 5:12 PM
If you couple that with the “remedy” that Obama will supply along with both houses of congress and close to 60 Dem senators, it may take the rest of the century to dig out of the mess. Reagan couldn’t do much to undo the work of FDR or LBJ.
dedalus on May 27, 2008 at 5:17 PM
I’m in complete agreement. Even if we run the “Hey, he’s not Obama” slogan (which, by the way, McCain simply refuses to use), I don’t think a Republican victory, at any cost, is worth it. Principles first. McCain is an open-borders liberal who hates free speech, who felt no need to stay above slandering George Bush in the GOP primary eight years ago. He does not deserve to win. He is our new Nixon, maybe even Ford/Rockefeller.
I’ve never met a libertarian (big L) who thinks he’s a conservative. I happen to like a lot of the Libertarian ethic, as long as they’re hawkish, Goldwater/Rand-esque libertarians. Anyone who thinks a class-warfare-lover like Huckabee is a conservative doesn’t deserve the title.
emailnuevo on May 27, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Here in Charlie’s hometown, it’s more than a rumor. Know him, know his father (Dr. Crist).
More importantly, he’s been a Democrat governor.
stenwin77 on May 27, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Huh?
Catholicism is not a cult (nicene creed is Christian doctrine).
On the other hand mormonism is obviously a cult, no question about it.
What does that have to do with who is VP?
Mccain has already gotten the clue not to pick Romney.
SaintOlaf on May 27, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Damn, its a shame we couldnt have Jeb! for 4 more years (barf)
Squid Shark on May 27, 2008 at 5:29 PM
John McCain………President
Duncan Hunter…….VP
Steve Forbes……..Sect of Treasury
Hunter’s a true fiscal conservative and also tough on national security and could be groomed for the top spot should McCain decide four is enough. Forbes is a genius at fiscal policys including fighting against higher taxes and hates government intrusion into business and entitlements that have no sunsets.
Rovin on May 27, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Your bias against Romney in this thread now has a little background
Hagee called Catholicism a cult. You are like him you apply a “doctrinal exclusion” to declare who is or isn’t Christian. Such definitions are generally self-serving, and not very helpful.
With the Nicene Creed, critics are ironically in the position of using a definition that would exclude all Christians for more than two centuries after Christ from the Christian fold.
PrezHussein on May 27, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Crist is silly. Take a look at what he’s done to the insurance industry in Florida. He’s full to the gills with righteous indignation over the home insurance providers in Florida insisting on not losing their butts. When another one announces it’s leaving the state he cheers and invites the homeowners to get their new policies from the state government. If Florida has another hurricane year like 2005 there will not be enough reserves for the state insurance company to pay the damages, and so the taxpayers will be stuck with the bill (the same taxpayers who were supposedly getting screwed by the insurance companies). The likely outcome? The State of Florida goes bankrupt. I imagine that Charlie’s banking that he will have moved on by then and someone else will be left holding the bag.
Either that or he’s an idiot. And what exactly is “Republican” about socializing the home insurance business?
jl on May 27, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Someone please tell me what the hell the VP’s do anymore? Beside run afterwards.
Cheney is vocal, he has deffinately BEEN in the spotlight AND has helped out on certain occations. But I can’t honestly remember in my life time any others who have.
Someone help me out…. seriously. Don’t be rude, as this is an actual question.
upinak on May 27, 2008 at 5:41 PM
I can’t answer your question, but as McCain’s running mate the VP slot will be taken more seriously. The man will probably outlive many of us, but he is old.
Esthier on May 27, 2008 at 5:43 PM
As far as I know just baby sit the senate and be the person to (hopefully) carry on the policies of the President should he become incapacitated. That’s it, as far as I can tell.
Limerick on May 27, 2008 at 5:44 PM
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