Quotes of the day
posted at 10:40 pm on May 27, 2008 by Allahpundit
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“This August, Al Qaeda will mark its twentieth anniversary. That is a long life for a terrorist group. Most terror organizations disappear with the death of their charismatic leader, and it would be hard to imagine Al Qaeda remaining a coherent entity without Osama bin Laden. The Red Army Faction went out of business when the Berlin Wall came down and it lost its sanctuary in East Germany. The Irish Republican Army, unusually, endured for nearly a century, until economic conditions in Ireland significantly improved, and the leaders were pressured by their own members to reach a political accommodation. When one looks for hopeful parallels for the end of Al Qaeda, it is discouraging to realize that its leadership is intact, its sanctuaries are unthreatened, and the social conditions that gave rise to the movement are largely unchanged. On the other hand, Al Qaeda has nothing to show for its efforts except blood and grief. The organization was constructed from rotten intellectual bits and pieces—false readings of religion and history—cleverly and deviously fitted together to give the appearance of reason. Even if Fadl’s rhetoric strikes some readers as questionable, Al Qaeda’s sophistry is rudely displayed for everyone to see. Although it will likely continue as a terrorist group, who could still take it seriously as a philosophy?”
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“[E]ncoded in the DNA of apocalyptic jihadist groups like Al Qaeda are the seeds of their own long-term destruction: Their victims are often Muslim civilians; they don’t offer a positive vision of the future (but rather the prospect of Taliban-style regimes from Morocco to Indonesia); they keep expanding their list of enemies, including any Muslim who doesn’t precisely share their world view; and they seem incapable of becoming politically successful movements because their ideology prevents them from making the real-world compromises that would allow them to engage in genuine politics.
Which means that the repudiation of Al Qaeda’s leaders by its former religious, military, and political guides will help hasten the implosion of the jihadist terrorist movement. As Churchill remarked after the battle of El Alamein in 1942, which he saw as turning the tide in World War II, ‘[T]his is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.’”
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“Al Qaeda web sites are making a lot of noise about ‘why we lost in Iraq.’“
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I sense a strategic redeployment to okinawa in AQ’s future!
lorien1973 on May 27, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Wow. This from the New Yorker? I usually skip their political stuff.
Rosmerta on May 27, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Now who gets to write the epitaph? And what will it be?
That al-Qaeda would have burned out, turned on itself had we not fought them in Iraq? A victim of its internal contradictions, contradictions that most revolutionary and ideological movements have? It’s inability to regenerate itself.
Or was the confrontation in Iraq against al-Qaeda crucial in destroying them? It forced them to expend more resources and energy, material that they could have better used elsewhere?
Like most things nowadays, it’ll break along ideological lines.
SteveMG on May 27, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Want to piss the libs off? A ticker tape victory parade celebrating the defeat of AQ in Iraq should be organized in October featuring President George and General David. With thousands cheering along the parade route holding American flags, what would the liberals think? What would Blitzer, Cafferty, Reid, Polosi and Olby think? Do you think they would come to the parade?
Travis1 on May 27, 2008 at 10:52 PM
May he rot in hell.
thatcher on May 27, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Thanks for the links.
Spirit of 1776 on May 27, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Al Qaeda has nothing to show for its efforts except blood and grief.
Well, they do have Spain.
Tony737 on May 27, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Certainly gives one cause to hope.
Spirit of 1776 on May 27, 2008 at 10:58 PM
isn’t afghanistan in worse shape now? the “good war” that is, vs. the “bad war” that is Iraq.
jp on May 27, 2008 at 10:58 PM
And we do what in January? Provide a bit of compassionate CPR?
Just asking.
Limerick on May 27, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Fixed
Hollowpoint on May 27, 2008 at 11:02 PM
“Al Qaeda web sites are making a lot of noise about ‘why we lost in Iraq.’”
I was hoping for some qoutes in that link, I’d like to hear why they lost in their own words … then forward them to Harry Reid.
Tony737 on May 27, 2008 at 11:03 PM
bin Laden is the puppet and his strings are pulled in Saudi Arabia. Just my opinion, I can’t prove it.
But I for one won’t be suprised if he is finally found in Saudi Arabia.
Hog Wild on May 27, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Well, he certainly fits with the official version of Islam in Saudi Arabia. I fear you may be correct.
Buford Gooch on May 27, 2008 at 11:08 PM
I’m still convinced he’s dead. Despite the reports by the CIA and others that the tapes are genuine (I know, how do I square that?).
It’s inconceivable to me that he wouldn’t have been much more active in leading (rhetorically if not physically) AQ in Iraq. After all, he was known for sending out tapes all the time encouraging his followers to take up arms, take on the Crusaders, restore the Caliphate.
All of sudden he stops sending the tapes?
Why?
SteveMG on May 27, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Can’t do that. All that paper is bad for the environment on soooooooo many levels!
SouthernGent on May 27, 2008 at 11:12 PM
OUCH!
Thank goodness it is wayyyy past beer-thirty.
Limerick on May 27, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Can’t do that. All that paper is bad for the environment on soooooooo many levels!
SouthernGent on May 27, 2008 at 11:12 PM
I guess you’re right. Maybe little bobbleheads of President George could be handed out along the parade route.
Travis1 on May 27, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Al Qaeda leadership itself has warned Iraqi Al Qaeda since Zawqari’s day to stop the insane civilian attacks. But the Iraqi Al Qaeda fought the war witj the spectacular attacks in mind.
Now the Afgani Taliban are adopting Iraqi tactics. And it will have the same effect.
Why now the Taliban are talking about winning the “Media war”
William Amos on May 27, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Read Willfull Blindness by Andy McCarthy. The goverment is much more into CYA than actually stopping these freaks. I’m not kidding. “Imagine the liability” is something of a mantra in the CIA/FBI.
VolMagic on May 27, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Re Pic of Osama and sidekick. Do those guys look happy or what? LOL
Nelsa on May 27, 2008 at 11:19 PM
If my calculator is correct, it would mean that AQ was created in 1988. It will come as a shock to some moonbats that AQ existed before the Bush presidency.
Bigfoot on May 27, 2008 at 11:22 PM
It also means that Al Qaeda came into being after the US stopped aid to the Muhajadeen.
William Amos on May 27, 2008 at 11:27 PM
The MSM and DNC wept.
jukin on May 27, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Wow. Harry Reid really is a member of al Qaeda.
wise_man on May 27, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Al Qaeda is just one expendable wing of the general movement of Islamic expansionism, which has always been bent on establishing a global theocratic tyranny.
The central production line for this malignant model is the Koran.
And the main promulgator of this 1400 year old march of religious imperialism, infiltration, subversion, colonization, “legal” attack, and cultural (as well as violent) assault, is Saudi Arabia, the home base of Mohammadism and its Jihad pocketbook.
Until the root ideology of Islam is challenged and defeated, these bloody offshoots, whether the Taliban or Al Qaeda or the Algerian jihadis, will spring up ceaselessly like tumors dispersed by the core cancer of their intolerant, misogynistic, and terroristic playbook.
Unless it is addressed, the conflict is endless.
profitsbeard on May 28, 2008 at 12:07 AM
“This August, Al Qaeda will mark its twentieth anniversary. That is a long life for a terrorist group. ….”
Tamil Tigers – 1974
FARC – 1958
PLO – 1974 (as a fully independent organization)
Hamas – 1987
Hezbollah – early 80’s
ETA – 1959
Must I go on? It’s nice to look for hopeful parallels, but one must set the conditions for the demise of a terrorist organization and follow through with it, not engage in wishful thinking.
Dusty on May 28, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Spirit of 1776 on May 28, 2008 at 12:35 AM
It’s worth noting that even though Fadl, Al Qaeda’s original theorist, has made a remarkable reversal against violent jihad, he has not done it for entirely moral reasons. He and the other washed-up jihadis have turned against violence because it didn’t work. It didn’t advance the jihad, but set it back.
In other words, Fadl is not against violent jihad because it’s wrong to kill non-Muslims but because it doesn’t futher the Muslim conquest of the world. This illustrates the immature morality of Islam which does not consider the justice of acts but only whether they reward you or not. That’s how morally-stunted kids and criminals think, not how fully-formed moral humans think.
Tantor on May 28, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Ouch…it’s painful because it is true.
tlynch001 on May 28, 2008 at 1:02 AM
dirka dirka
i b squidly on May 28, 2008 at 1:03 AM
What profitsbeard said at 12:07, sadly.
BL@KBIRD on May 28, 2008 at 1:08 AM
Bit of a non-sequitur.
The social conditions that gave rise to Osama the billionaire, and all those doctors and engineers?
No wonder Bambi’s wife and spiritual advisor rail against middle-class-ness. It gives rise to terrorism!
misterpeasea on May 28, 2008 at 1:45 AM
Amen and hallelujah, my fellow Crusader.
The problem with Islam isn’t extremism, it’s Islam.
misterpeasea on May 28, 2008 at 1:46 AM
I wouldn’t worry about Al Qaeda in Iraq, I would worry about those Muslims living in America who are plotting a nuclear and a biological attack on the homeland.
Preemptive attacks should start at home, but George W. Bush is too politically correct to offend the Muslim terrorists and their supporters.
We don’t want to make the Saudis and the other Muslim nations angry. Do we?
After all, Bush helped the Saudis flee America right after September 11 for fear of retaliation.
Indy Conservative on May 28, 2008 at 6:46 AM
Al Qaeda is marking its twentieth anniversary?
Hey, instead of blowing out the candles on the anniversary cake, why not they just go blow themselves up instead?
pilamaye on May 28, 2008 at 7:30 AM
Call me crazy.
I think the demise of Al Qaeda just might have a little something to do with the removal and execution of one Saddam Hussein, and the subsequent removal of his money and organizational support.
rockmom on May 28, 2008 at 9:40 AM
Zero. Count them ZERO attacks on the homeland since 9/11 and you are complaining.
Spirit of 1776 on May 28, 2008 at 9:53 AM
Isn’t that all they wanted?
4shoes on May 28, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Now as the liberation of 25,000,000 Iraqis begins to stabilize and we solidify our presence in the most volatile and dangerous area in the world, maybe we can turn our attention to the Afghan border and flush the rest of these snakes out. A snake is not dead until cut off the head.
volsense on May 28, 2008 at 11:39 AM
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