Lou Dobbs to Media Matters rep: “You are an ideologue and a left-wing hack”
posted at 2:55 pm on May 27, 2008 by Allahpundit
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How’d these two end up on opposite sides of the desk, you ask? Behold, the cover predictably adorned with the image of my own beloved boss for having the wingnutty gall to object to illegal aliens convicted of crimes in the U.S. being released after serving their time instead of deported and then proceeding to commit new and ever more exciting crimes. A sample quote from the report’s “Fear, Anger, and Hate” section. Have you ever?
The never-ending criminal alien revolving door — that’s the subject of this evening’s ‘Talking Points Memo.’ Here we go again — another heinous crime, another illegal alien suspect with a mile-long rap sheet, another bloody tragedy wrought by open borders.” — The O’Reilly Factor, August 10, 2007
I’m not totally unsympathetic to Waldman, actually; Dobbs dips his toe into the pool of immigration conspiracy theories too often for my liking. But the left is so pitiful and disingenuous on the subject of criminal illegal aliens — as you’ll see in clip two, where Waldman has the unholy nerve to scold him for calling so much attention to otherwise preventable crimes — that I can’t help but exult in the berating. Thirteen minutes. Enjoy.
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Ah, Paul Waldman.
Darth Soros’ favorite pit bull.
I would have loved to have seen Dobbs throw this jerk off the air just on sheer principle alone.
pilamaye on May 27, 2008 at 3:06 PM
The backlash continues
http://www.miamiherald.com/1259/story/407416.html
William Amos on May 27, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Wow, Dobbs is rightly upset! That guy kept up with the immigrants plight and Dobbs kept correcting him with illegal immigrants. What a tool.
Jimmybob on May 27, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Opps some more from that article
William Amos on May 27, 2008 at 3:12 PM
My family has been forced to sell ranch property to support the TX Dept of Transportation plan to build the Trans Texas Corridor on US Hiway 59. There is a plan to turn this highway into I-69. There are even Interstate signs on US 59 on the side of the road which say
. The newspapers have been full of the story of future I-69 plans and Trans Texas Corridor plans for the last three or four years. Of course, there is a plan to turn I-69 into a Texas to Canada Interstate highway and any moron with a map could tell you that.
That being said, I don’t disagree with the State of TX plan to build this road, and I don’t think it is a bad thing to allow. So I agree with Lou when he says Media Matters is full of idiots who don’t have a clue about researching a topic. And I disagree with Lou that this is a bad thing.
It is just progress. We’d better get behind this or lose out in the end. Do we enforce the border security? Yes. Inspect the MX trucks when they come thru. There are several neutron radiation systems on the border which can be used to analyze truck cargo and have been in the works for at least 10 yrs, since I left the Pentagon where we appropriated the money to design and build ten of them for US Customs. Is illegal immigration a bad thing? Yes. What should we do with them when we catch them? Send the crooks home. Fine the Hell out of the good ones, and let them stay, and get them in line for green cards and legal tax documentation. Make them pay their way. If they run, they get deported until they pay their tax bills. They want to be here. Fine. Pay. Your. Way.
Subsunk
Subsunk on May 27, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Why doesn’t this Waldman guy ask the MSM when the last time they did a positive story on Iraq?
infidel2 on May 27, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Wow… Dobbs is Great! He beat the ears off the lefty charlatan. Excellent job Lou!!
Maxx on May 27, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Say what you will about Dobbs. He has done more to highlight this issue and keep it front and center than most, especially than most of those in government.
tomk59 on May 27, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Why do liberals object to making illegals come here legally anyway?
It will force the US government to spend billions more dollars and create even bigger government departments and agencies?
What’s not for a liberal to love?
EJDolbow on May 27, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Pompus paleo-con smug meets smarmy left-wing smug.
They deserve each other and they have more in common than they both realize.
RobCon on May 27, 2008 at 3:27 PM
The price of oil went down $2.00 a barrel today on news of decreased demand. Just think how much we could reduce demand if we would deport the illegal immigrants.
And Lou, If you punch him, I’ll contribute to your legal defense fund.
meci on May 27, 2008 at 3:29 PM
am i the only one who wants to reach across the desk and ring his {media matters douche bag}scrawny pencil neck and say “answer the question you F***en hack“
Mojack420 on May 27, 2008 at 3:31 PM
“What’s the title of the last book you wrote?” I LOVED THAT LAST QUESTION! And then it turns out to be a book about John McCain’s “free ride” with the media. Not Obama’s free ride. Oh, no, that bespectacled little puke has a “free ride” story sitting right in front of him, and he writes about McCain, rather than Obama! Too hilarious. I try to be respectful. I try to listen to other opinions. But lefties are so freakin’ transparent, and so…dumb. Sorry, they’re just dumb. They’ve got the collective IQ of my dog, who at this very moment is lying on the floor licking her own ass. That’s what lefties are. They’re ass-lickers.
Rational Thought on May 27, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Sorry Allah. I’ll take Alex Jones and his ilk over these Media Matters/MoveOn/Code Pink scum any day of the week.
“POUND”ING on crimes illegal immigrants commit? Refusing to answer identical questions about his organization? What a slime. This guy is pure Washington disingenuous filth. He wouldn’t answer a single question himself because he had nothing, and changed gears every time Lou pointed out something positive he said about immigrants.
MadisonConservative on May 27, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Nice work, Lou Dobbs!
bridgetown on May 27, 2008 at 3:35 PM
It’s actually in the interests of the country. As such, no support.
emailnuevo on May 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM
“I’m not totally unsympathetic to Waldman, actually; Dobbs dips his toe into the pool of immigration conspiracy theories too often for my liking.”
I find the fact that the SPP/NAU isn’t getting CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT, let alone enough media coverage, not to my liking.
My sympathies and praise fall on Lou.
Read Jerome Corsi’s book, then tell us that they’re conspiracy theories.
Christine on May 27, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Legal immigrants are the problem. I hate their actions. Balkanization of America because we cannot enforce English as the official language. Some parts of cities are India some are Mexico. Their kids shouldn’t be in the same class as my kids until they speak English as well as a native.
PrezHussein on May 27, 2008 at 3:40 PM
How dare you lower the dog to the level of a leftist.
RobertInAustin on May 27, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Outstanding.
In any event, Media Matters also did an outstanding job attacking Michael Savage, and that’s all that really matters anyway. Right?
Well done Lou Dobbs.
wise_man on May 27, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Nazi.
Andy in Agoura Hills on May 27, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Who the hell are you? Way to invoke Godwin’s Law with minimal effort.
MadisonConservative on May 27, 2008 at 3:45 PM
From the city of Livingston Tx themselves.
http://www.livingstonisd.com/about_livingston.htm
Livingston, Texas is a growing community located in the heart of East Texas. Known for our beautiful scenery, Lake Livingston, and our rich tradition of community, we welcome you to become a part of the excitement in our town. With new businesses moving into Livingston monthly (Lowes, Jack-in-the-Box) we are rapidly becoming an important fixture on the proposed I-69 corridor. Livingston is a great place to raise a family, with all of the safety and security of small-town living, and the amenities of the city.
Polk County: Polk County is one of the fastest growing areas in Texas. Livingston, our county seat, is less than an hours drive to Bush International Airport in Houston via U.S. Highway 59 (proposed Interstate 69 NAFTA Corridor). We have the most abundant water supply in the State of Texas and an available labor pool of over 200,000 within a 50 mile radius.
I-69 designation - The Texas Route to Trade - 1-69 is the nation’s newest trade corridor proposed to run from Mexico to Canada. It is the shortest route between the Northeastern United States and South Texas. It will reduce travel time, fuel consumption and cost over the existing circuitous route and serve the largest segments of U.S. trade with Mexico and Canada. 1-69 is expected to add many new jobs resulting in additional wages and added value and increase the economic activity along the route.
RobertInAustin on May 27, 2008 at 3:47 PM
B-b-but, gee, RobertinAustin, that can’t be. We’ve been assured that that’s ridiculous and just not the case!
tomk59 on May 27, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Thank You,
I needed that laugh today. ;:- )
abinitioadinfinitum on May 27, 2008 at 3:52 PM
You might be surprised at how many urban latte liberals are more than happy to be saving lots of money by employing illegals as their gardeners, painters, landscapers, maids, and even nannies. I used to see this all the time when I lived in Alexandria, Virginia. Some of the most liberal people I know pay slave wages to their domestic workers and pay no taxes on them either. I could go to the playground during the day with my toddler and not hear a word of English spoken by any of the nannies. If they had to employ legal residents and pay their FICA and unemployment taxes it woud cost them a lot of money! They might even have to put their own pampered teenagers to work mowing their yards!
rockmom on May 27, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Yeah, but it seems the good folks of Livingston Tx are banking on it. After all, you don’t make one of your major selling points to new businesses based on Alex Jones type of jabberwocky.
RobertInAustin on May 27, 2008 at 3:56 PM
I don’t understand Dobbs that well, and have only seen him a few times on tv.. How could you work for CNN and have outrage/surprise at how the left, especially the left media operates? Why do his bosses put up with him if he goes against the lefty playbook? What is his political philosophy?
JiangxiDad on May 27, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Come on Andy, I’ve seen lots of your post as reasonable and rational, you are better than that. Don’t be trigger happy with insults, we turn into Kos when we go that route.
Maxx on May 27, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Its just legal slavery is all it is.
As I drive around Austin Tx I see homes worth millions with Obama signs in their front yards. They protest that Bush gives too many tax breaks to the rich, but I would be interested to see their tax returns and see how much of the money they got to keep thanks to Bush went to donations to the poor and charities.
I wouldn’t hold my breath.
RobertInAustin on May 27, 2008 at 4:00 PM
True enough, RobertinAustin. Not to break your chops, buddy, but AllahPundit, you out there? I’d like your opinion on this.
tomk59 on May 27, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Lou Dobbs is my hero.
Media Matters is a left wing hack website that has no legitimacy in the main stream media.
msipes on May 27, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Maybe I’m just getting old, but I always thought the word “slavery” implied forced labor. I don’t see employers dragging illegal immigrants into the country against their will, so the term doesn’t seem to fit. Using that comparison really makes you sound foolish.
Big S on May 27, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Agree totally.
Maxx on May 27, 2008 at 4:11 PM
I had Ann Coulter in mind when she wrote about how the civil war freed all the slaves, so all the work they used to get for free they now have to pay for, so they pay the lowest wages they can get away with. At least the slave holders provided their slaves with food and clothing, the libs barely even provide that amount. Plus, they also refer to Wal-Mart as paying slave wages. So, it was in that vein I made the comment.
RobertInAustin on May 27, 2008 at 4:11 PM
I’m no Lou Dobbs fan. But I liked him here. He should have tried to make Waldman cry.
One thing Waldman said during the interview was powerfully stupid:
It took me about 2 minutes to find dozens of unambiguously anti-semitic sites linking back to and favourably quoting mediamatters. I wonder if that makes Waldman want to step back and question what he’s doing. If he’s being responsible or not …
rjjago on May 27, 2008 at 4:16 PM
We can build I-69, but not a secure fence.
kirkill on May 27, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Taxing Walmart for paying slave wages: a great idea!
RobertInAustin on May 27, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Well, any employer hoping to stay “in business” will pay the lowest wages they can get away with. Whether that minimum is legally enforced (minimum wage laws) or the result of market forces (supply curve, meet demand curve) is really the only question.
On the flip side, workers will generally work for the highest wage they can get away with, all else being equal. Therein lies the driving force for illegal immigration into this country.
Big S on May 27, 2008 at 4:19 PM
You guys are right. The rich liberals cannot stand the idea of their cheap service economy going away. I always wonder why they want to increase minimum wage.
PrezHussein on May 27, 2008 at 4:20 PM
The average American is guilty of atrocious grammar and has a vocabulary that supplants profanities as punctuation. Furthermore, I’m guessing that almost every blog thread I have ever read has someone incorrectly using “your” in place “you’re.”
So-called “native” speakers do not represent a very high linguistic benchmark.
The Race Card on May 27, 2008 at 4:21 PM
I’m certainly on Lou’s side on this one, but does it strike anyone else that he comes across as maybe having had a few prior to doing this segment?
Blacklake on May 27, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Dobbs is great on immigration. But the guy’s instincts are very liberal. Listen to him on anything else except immigration and bring a barf bag.
The Race Card on May 27, 2008 at 4:22 PM
When leftists hire illegals they are helping the illegals out on their journey to …whatever.
BL@KBIRD on May 27, 2008 at 4:24 PM
No, living in Mexico is the driving force for illegal immigration into this country.
They may not be Hindu but they do have a caste system. If you live in Mexico and are at least half Spanish you have a good chance to make a decent life for yourself, this I have been told by many a former Mexican national.
RobertInAustin on May 27, 2008 at 4:24 PM
I never watched Lou Dobbs before, but wow, I like him. He handled that interview much smoother than anything I’ve ever seen on The Factor.
Hening on May 27, 2008 at 4:24 PM
I really, really wanted to deck that weasel.
Wow, was that more theater than a real debate?
benrand on May 27, 2008 at 4:26 PM
The whole issue about the borders shouldn’t involve too much arguing. If we’re not properly enforcing our borders, what point is there in having a border? Moreover, I don’t think illegal immigrants are bad people and the vast majority of them come here and work hard. But then the money they make might leave the U.S, and even if most of them are just seeking a better life, there are far too many unsavory characters sneaking in. American money is calling, and shady characters and sneaking in to grab a piece, and who knows where that money goes? For the most part, I feel for these people. Their situations were so bad they were desperate to get out and ran to America. But it’s a slap in the face to all people trying to come here legally to cater to these individuals and grant them more rights, privleges etc. They are not respecting the rules. We have to deal with this problem compassionately, but most importantly, we have simply got to protect and enforce our borders first, otherwise this complicated problem will continue to snowball and more people will become part of the mess.
mattyj86 on May 27, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Walman is just another leftist tool posing as a journalist. Wonder why he wouldn’t answer Dobb’s question on the titles of the books he wrote?
Umm, maybe because the title of one was “Fraud: The Strategy Behind The Bush Lies, and Why the Media Didn’t Tell You”.
Heh, what a tool.
tomk59 on May 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Kids get thrown into kindergarten not knowing one word of English. They drag the rest of the children down for a few years while the ESL classes slowly catch them up.
PrezHussein on May 27, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Yeah… so what? Who cares? We are not submitting “white papers” to congress here. This is an informal forum where we express our political views for the fun of it and maybe learn a thing or two along the way.
I’m often guilty of the your/you’re misuse…. but are you understanding what I’m trying to say? It’s just petty to be the 6th grade grammar teacher all the time. I type fast and furious sometime and I don’t proofread my comments very well. So try to get into the spirit of the thing and don’t worry about such trivia. Geeeeee !
Maxx on May 27, 2008 at 4:37 PM
This left wing hack has the audacity to suggest that if there is negative coverage of X [in this case illegal aliens] then responsible rhetoric (his words) needs to be followed by comparable stories demonstrating the positive aspects of X.
Have fun left wing hack when you replace X w The War In Iraq.”
Hats off to Dobbs for not reaching over and bitchslapping the spinmeister
scottm on May 27, 2008 at 4:37 PM
We have (in part) a representative from the leftwing news watchdog (yeah, sure) Media Matters attacking Lou Dobbs for his criticism of the Bush Administration’s immigration policies?
So, MM is saying that Dobbs needs to, in effect, lighten up on Bush?
What the hell is Soros up to here?
SteveMG on May 27, 2008 at 4:51 PM
I want to smack that grin off of Waldman’s face. He said they excluded coverage of Ramos & Compean because it would have skewed the numbers of stories about immigration.
NO.
More coverage would have brought more awareness to the upside down nature of how our justice system is treating our border agents.
If Dobb’s is such a bad person, perhaps even a racist as the Left wants to think, why they mention that Dobb’s wife is Mexican-American? It must drive them nuts.
cannonball on May 27, 2008 at 5:06 PM
@ Maxx,
I was commenting on what someone else said. Admittedly, you need to take more time with your spelling. I’d say throw your reading into the hopper too.
Now, try again. Read the thread. Understand what’s going on now? Ok, good.
Now, kindly gtfo of my oatmeal.
***
Learning starts at home. If you rely solely on PUBLIC schools to teach your kids, then you are an unfit parent.
I have taught some of these kids that show up to school not nowing how to wipe their butts or tie their own shoes. Many cannot recognize the letters in their own names. Many parents have never recited the alphabet to their kids.
Illegals flood our schools and drain our resources. But American parents do a fine enough job on their own at churniing out uninspired students.
The Race Card on May 27, 2008 at 5:15 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaa!!!
I just suffered through both clips. I’m not feeling well.
I’ll have to let my stomach settle before I eat lunch.
What a tool.
TheCulturalist on May 27, 2008 at 5:23 PM
The Race Card on May 27, 2008 at 5:15 PM
I never liked English teachers.
Maxx on May 27, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Chaos, Chaos in many forms from open boarders to high food and oil prices and shortages.
Desperate people do desperate things, IE: embrace socialism. (daddy gov will save the day!)
allrsn on May 27, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Respond to my words and not my screen name.
The Race Card on May 27, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Nice of you to completely ignore the point over which you engaged me.
I understand your dislike of English teachers. God forbid you take an interest in the correct usage of your native tongue.
Enjoy mediocrity. Soon you can be almost-average.
The Race Card on May 27, 2008 at 5:46 PM
hahah, I may have to start watching Lou Dobbs
spacekicker on May 27, 2008 at 5:48 PM
The ass-kissing hack kept his cool. He’s a good ass-kissing hack, he’s earning his keep.
I wonder what other talents he has.
29Victor on May 27, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Christ, enough already. You’re talking about spelling and grammar on the internet. Wake up and realize that a majority of people use internet acronyms, foul language, and nonsensical meme gibberish to get their points across. Standing there playing grammar police not only makes you look petty and arrogant, it shows that you are petty and arrogant. You are gaining nothing by your condescending attitude.
MadisonConservative on May 27, 2008 at 5:51 PM
I saw the smackdown, it was great. Too bad Dobbs didn’t ask him what I wanted to ask him: if any criticism of illegal immigration “might” influence nuts, are we then not allowed to criticize it at all? Should we just let it happen because talking about it might upset some people?
Let’s see the proof that “nativist extremists” have actually attacked someone. Let’s hear the supposed “death threats” they keep saying they are getting.
PattyJ on May 27, 2008 at 5:51 PM
It is my understanding that Dobbs has in the past referred to himself as a Republican, which is perfect because I always thought he was CNN’s idea of a tolerable Republican.
As you say, every other commentary I have heard him make is mainstream liberal.
Jaibones on May 27, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Now you’ve hurt my feelings. Actually my comment about English teachers was intended as a joke. Chill now… OK?
Maxx on May 27, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Illegal imigration has nothing to do with the minimum wage. The minimum wage is about increasing union wages that are pegged to the federal minimum. Higher union wages = higher union dues = more union money going into Democrats’ campaign coffers. Many liberals also think that eventually the unions will be able to organize the illegals and return to their 1970s heyday when everyone went on strike all the time and crippled the economy, and union workers all voted Democrat.
rockmom on May 27, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Actually I thought the Media Matters guy defended himself pretty well.
Baphomet on May 27, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Expert witness - M. Friedman. See Volume 8 of the 1980 series here.
Big S on May 27, 2008 at 6:27 PM
@Maddy
Read what was said or stfu. We’re talking Dobbs, immigration, etc. That’s what led to the discussion about schools.
You too may gtfo of my oatmeal.
…And hell yes, I’m grumpy today. I’m having a crisis. I may have to put a family member to rest ’cause they’re not cost-effective. That is, I might have to give up my big-ass American SUV.
There is no planned parenthood for auto-abortions. I’m dealing with this solo. So pardon my bark, my bite and my bitching….
:)
The Race Card on May 27, 2008 at 6:30 PM
What was that about grammar, noob?
MadisonConservative on May 27, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Subsunk knows that the NAFTA Superhighway is real but doesn’t see the threat to our sovereignty, our safety, our economy, (which has suffered already).
If you read The Late Great USA, (which documents all the meetings between the (visible) players behind SPP), perhaps he/she would see the larger picture. Nothing will be inspected at ‘the border’; there isn’t a border now, so how can we expect one to appear when the NAFTA Super-dee-dooper Highway is built?!
If we “get on board” without bringing this to The People we are no longer living in a representative government.
What in heavens name would we gain by this scheme? Nothing; just look at the countries of the EU. We won’t benefit from homogenizing the three countries of North America; even Mexico’s wages have dropped since NAFTA came into being because China, India and the Philippines have cheaper labor.
Most important of all, the people being exploited by the global ‘captains of industry’ are the real losers in this crazy-ass scheme and i don’t have to go into detail about that. Read the book, even though it will scare the living daylights out of you, at least you will be informed.
Christine on May 27, 2008 at 7:01 PM
We can build I-69, but not a secure fence.
kirkill on May 27, 2008 at 4:17 PM
That’s the point, they don’t want borders. They want to reduce the US to a consumer market that has no power, even over itself. This is not the country I want my children’s children to live in. The lawlessness of Mexico is spreading over the border, (Tijuana is called ‘Little Bagdad’) and it breaks my heart when I imagine how much worse it will undoubtedly get with no political will–let alone awareness–to change it.
Christine on May 27, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Sorry you are having a bad time RC…however,
…
That really speaks more to the point of this thread than how well educated english speaking american kids are.
surrounded on May 27, 2008 at 8:20 PM
My goodness Paul Waldman chose the absolute wrong person to be condescending and ignorant with…he got his clock cleaned and destroyed his credibility while he was at it…
CCRWM on May 27, 2008 at 9:03 PM
I would have liked it if Dobbs had just said:
I’m done with you. You’re incapable of having a dialogue. You’re dismissed now. You can tell your organization to send someone who can have an intelligent conversation, if it has one.
silverfox on May 27, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Gawd. . . .I hate liberals
Texyank on May 27, 2008 at 9:52 PM
I’m impressed.
That tool spent 13 minutes kissing Lou’s butt and didn’t answer a single question put to him.
Hog Wild on May 27, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Well, McCain is getting a free ride, since the mission of the media is to deride and de-legitimize Republicans, and following on the heels of their yeoman’s work over the last 8 years, the only explanation of why they do not constantly tell lies about him is that the media insufficiently hates McCain.
Conversely, the other mission of the media is to shelter Democrats from any inconvenient truths that might embarrass them, and the media is having a tough time meeting that objective in the case of Obama.
Coming soon, the book “What’s the Matter with the Media?”
drunyan8315 on May 28, 2008 at 9:18 AM