I agree 100%.

We’re not making forward progress with this attitude at all. We’re not winning over voters, we’re not putting our house in order, in fact, we’re not even honest about the need for our house to be PUT in order. It’s called willful blindness and it’s a shame that Coburn, who has shown spark, has had a cup of the Kool-Aid.

There, as in the article, he says the same smart things about how Republicans don’t get it, and how they should return to their root concepts… and its all good…

UNTIL he says that’s why we gotta get behind the great Conservative Republican Messiah McCain, “the only one who can lead us through the wilderness”.

Now I understand that for party unity he HAS to pretend that McCain is the solution, not the problem, but I could never do that even if I were hoping to be his VP choice.

I wasn’t too impressed with Coburn’s delivery. A lot of stuttering and hemming and hawing, despite Hannity’s polite, softball questions.. He might have the right basic ideas to be a conservative old time Republican, but he doesn’t seem to be quite ‘ready for primetime’.

In the end we are again left with the message ” Vote Republican… We suck slightly less than the Democrats.”
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I just figured out how to articulate one of the reasons that I keep pointing out the grievous flaws in electing McCain, and have a hard time being able to be polite to the ‘hold your nosers’:

Did you all ever stop to think that if it weren’t for you ‘hold your nosers’ that the Party might step in at the last minute and put someone that is at least slightly acceptable to at least half the party core? I mean, McCain is not REALLY the nominee until the people running the Convention says he is.

If they (the Party bigwigs) didn’t figure that most everyone would eventually fall in line and vote for the “we suck less than the other guys” due to fear of Obama and Osama we COULD get a last minute ’savior’.

I know, I know; that is as likely as ALL of us MDS sufferers winning Powerball AND being struck by lightening between now and November. But it is within the realm of possibility, if not probability.

But we will never know, because ‘hold your nose and vote’ has become the only thing that has sustained the GOP for 32 of the last 40 years. And it will no doubt be the inscription on the headstone on the grave of America in 2010.

So pardon me for clinging to my forlorn hopes and annoying you folks for just a few more months.

I wish we had better candidates, maybe Lieberman vs. Petraeus.
We do not.
We have two impostors and someone we’re not too sure of.
And we have to make a choice,
Stop whining.

davem on May 28, 2008 at 10:21 AM

I’m not whining; nor am I voting for McCain. We need to make corrections in the process for future races since we’ve already lost this one.

If Obama is elected, we lose. If McCain is elected, we lose. If Hillary is elected, we lose.

We have to plan ahead. Helping elect McCain (as the least of evils) shows the Republican leadership nothing except that we will be good little subjects and play along. They will have no incentive in the future to pay attention to the Conservative side at all.

Like who cares?
All you got is McCain.
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Stop whining.

davem

Condescending, insulting, avoiding any possible complaints or their validity, and dismissing any concerns. Hey, that sounds a lot like McCain…

Are you in disguise, or are you a different condescending insulting tone-deaf person who believes that this attitude will somehow gain support?

Actually, either way; as I hope McCain loses I have one thing to say…

Keep up the good work. Try for a bit more elitism in your condescending attitude; but otherwise, everything I could hope for in a McCain supporter. Please get out there and insult potential supporters until you’re too tired to speak or type.

You Barr fans do know he’s against a border fence, don’t you?

juliesa on May 28, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Then I am even happier to vote for him. If we just enforced the law we wouldn’t have most of this problem. Use cameras and boots to patrol the border.

A fence is big government idea and its not worth anything as long as the law isn’t enforced. Many people become illegal immigrants by overstaying visas, a fence is not going to solve that. Terrorists came from Canada, a fence is not going to stop that. Also I am against the big expenditures and eminent domain that will and are resulting. A fence is not going to change the problem, the executive branch actually enforcing the laws on the books will solve the problem and we’re either getting McCain or Obama. Somebody will get rich though.

he is the only one we have unless we want to elect Obambi or Shrillery.

You can vote for anyone you like. You should vote for the person you like. Trying to be too clever with their voting is what got GOP voters into this mess in the first place.

You make my point for me. You have no sense of humor.

No, you display your own lack of humor by your inability to realise how absurd you appear. Don’t sit pounding on your keyboard with your teeth gritted and that vein swelling in your forehead while repeating over and over “I”m lauging!”

I’m also amused by your peculiar belief that if Obama loses, the Dems will self destruct. A few years back they lost the WH and lost seats in the Senate. They did not self destruct then and they won’t do it now if McLiberal is elected, at the same time as they pick up many seats in Congress.

The general election campaign has informally begun. And there’s the usual spate of stories wondering when — and if — Democratic Senator Hillary Clinton will get out…and blogs blasting those who are wondering. Here’s our h…

Vote McCain. The LEAST vile and frightening of the available choices.

Ugh. No Thanks. I’ll still be writing in Ronald Reagan. Better a dead man than a RINO.

Yeah, he’s a “young turk” conservative. Sure, Ed.

Tom Coburn is hot and he’s spouting off in the WSJ. Here’s the post from Hot Air with some commentary. In short, Coburn is calling on Republican candidates to start acting like conservatives. We sure agree. Watch Coburn. His future…

The big question: will this missive from Coburn help bridge the gap between McCain and conservative activists

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Absolutely not. The problem here is that conservative activists don’t trust McCain with good reason. John McCain has betrayed conservative values for the last eight years in his personal temper tantrum that GWB got the nomination instead of a cranky old liberal with zero personality and an extremely volcanic temper. GWB has been inconsistent but John McCain has consistently been a traitor to conservative values.

Coburn’s comments come off more as pandering than any real assessment of the situation. It is John McCain and the RNC trotting out a real Republican to deliver the same old themes of “John is better than Obama,” “John isn’t as liberal as Democrats,” and “shut the f**k up and vote for McCain.”

Debate McCain, debate McCain, debate McCain…..this could go on until Nov but the fact is, he is the only one we have unless we want to elect Obambi or Shrillery. sigh……what a choice.

kcd on May 28, 2008 at 9:52 AM

Yep. It sucks in ways things just shouldn’t have to suck.

But it is what it is.

Nope!

After the party gets thrashed this fall maybe they will find a Reagan in the wilderness and find their soul again! If not, they will not be my party again until they do!

sabbott on May 28, 2008 at 8:37 AM

So let me get this straight. You’re unwilling to stop the guaranteed disaster that is complete unrestricted control of America that an Obambi/dem House/dem Senate will usher in.

And you’re banking on ‘maybe’ another Reagan rising after the fall, (which I wouldn’t hold my breath for).

And if said Reagan does not show up, THEN you’re leaving the party and becoming even more irrelevant.

So rather than do everything to disrupt the disaster you possibly can to at least mitigate somewhat said disaster, (and in the process bring about a crushing defeat for the dems which could very likely finish off their far leftist wing), while all the while working diligently on local Conservative development and resurgence and paving the way for Bobby Jindal in the next cycle or two, you’re simply advocating surrender to the dem destiny.

Friend Sabbott, I simply and humbly request that you at least think long and hard on the points above. I completely understand your anger and disappointment, but retreating into even further irrelevancy shouldn’t be the road we go down at this critical point in history.

It’s going to take the American People a long time to wake up from this leftist haze. They’re not going to listen to us for a while. Hell, listen to us right now squabbling amongst ourselves. If you were looking in from the outside, would you want to join this defeatist mess?

Very respectfully,

Thank you. At least we agreed on our first choice…going forward we part ways.

jwp1964 on May 28, 2008 at 6:26 AM

Sorry to hear that. You seem a decent fellow. At any rate, thanks for the civil response.

I hope things work out for the good of the Nation, and for the both of us in it.

Same old boring people, with the same old supposed boring “faux conservative” values, with the same old boring reasons, with the same old stupidity why they are not going to vote for McCain.

Who cares. You are irrelevant. You have always been irrelevant. Your political poseur ideas are infantile. You have never elected anyone. You are akin to the rooster that thinks he causes the sun to rise. Please stay home on election night, the lines will be shorter for the adults.

McCain may be elected, as all candidates are, by the independents, and the last thing independents do is listen to the trolly tripe you practice your typing with.

God I hope McCain gets elected so he can drive you further around the bend. If I didn’t find Hillary so repugnant I almost wish he would pick her as VP just to f’k with your heads some more.