Bill Clinton: Never have so many disrespected so few

posted at 7:20 am on May 27, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Bill Clinton obviously hasn’t gotten the Unity memo from the Democratic establishment. In an appearance this weekend, Bill told a South Dakota audience that his wife has been victimized by the primary process. He said that he has never seen any candidate treated so disrespectfully just for running, a claim that makes less sense when one considers the treatment Hillary received over the year prior to her February debacle:

The press treated Hillary Clinton as an inevitability from the moment she announced her bid for the presidency. Not until Iowa did the narrative of the “presumed nominee” change. She had plenty of respect until she started losing primary contests.

Now Bill’s unhappy that Democrats want her to stop running in the primaries, claiming that the party establishment has started to “bully” superdelegates into making decisions now rather than at the convention. Bill wants them to wait, apparently all the way to a Credentials Committee fight in Denver over Florida and Michigan, before declaring their intentions. It seems as though Bill wants to fight this all summer long, using the two disputed states as the bloody shirt.

Republicans would love nothing more than a sniping war during the summer, but Barack Obama has probably positioned himself now to where he can yank the rug out from under the Clintons. He can now afford to cut a deal that seats Florida and splits Michigan generously without risking his lead in pledged delegates. If he does that, it strips Hillary of her last rationalization for continued campaigning and ends the victimization card she and Bill keep playing.


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The Clintons have discovered that they are old news to the dems. In a few years Obama will be thrown under the bus as well.

ITs the reverse in the republican party. We get stuck with the long time leaders rather than push for someone new and innovative. Both types have their strengths and problems.

William Amos on May 27, 2008 at 7:29 AM

Maybe the velociraptors from the thread below can take care of this.

bikermailman on May 27, 2008 at 7:31 AM

It doesn’t really matter what anyone thinks of the Clintons, Bill’s point that Hillary may have the popular vote, but will lose the nomination to the “Super-delegates” is a valid argument.
The fact that a candidate can have the popular vote, but not be elected, is an electoral collage loophole that needs to be fixed.

KMC1 on May 27, 2008 at 7:32 AM

I couldn’t care less about the Dems’ little special interest problem. I hope they keep sniping all summer; the sound bites alone make the noise worth it.

Jaibones on May 27, 2008 at 7:36 AM

It’s not the electoral college was set up to protect the ‘little guy’ states, and for good reason. My guess is, you can’t fix that ‘loophole’ without causing the very problem the Founders tried to avoid: The big population states getting all the attention from the candidates and the little ones getting ignored.

bikermailman on May 27, 2008 at 7:36 AM

[Obama] can now afford to cut a deal that seats Florida and splits Michigan generously without risking his lead in pledged delegates. If he does that, it strips Hillary of her last rationalization for continued campaigning and ends the victimization card she and Bill keep playing.

I don’t think Obama can give Hillary Florida and Michigan. If he does that, it gets her dangerously close (less than 100 difference) in pledged delegates and cements her lead in the popular vote. Far from “yanking the rug” out from under her, by conceding Michigan and Florida, he gives Hillary additional legs to stand on to fight all the way to the convention.

What Obama is doing is the right move for him, but it’s going to be costly to him in the general. He’s mobilizing the superdelegates to make early declarations so that by June 3rd, he can say “I have 2100 delegates in my favor and I win, now let’s look forward to November” and then paint Hillary as the sore loser. That’s more effective for Obama to “move past” the primaries. The problem is that it will impact the party healing process and, more importantly, will leave voters in 2 critical swing states really angry that Obama “disenfranchised” them. I doubt McCain will pick up Michigan, but he might be able to pick up Florida as a partial result, and he might make Michigan competitive enough to force Obama to campaign there.

Outlander on May 27, 2008 at 7:37 AM

The fact that a candidate can have the popular vote, but not be elected, is an electoral collage loophole that needs to be fixed.

KMC1 on May 27, 2008 at 7:32 AM

The Dems make their own rules for picking their own candidate within their own party. Seems right to me.

JiangxiDad on May 27, 2008 at 7:39 AM

Outlander on May 27, 2008 at 7:37 AM

There are many avenues that lead to an Obama defeat, but few that lead to victory. Not looking HOPEful that he can CHANGE that.

JiangxiDad on May 27, 2008 at 7:41 AM

My goodness, but Bubba Billy is oh so desperate to get back to the White House! I’m surprised he didn’t start wagging his finger at the crowd and shouting “My wife did not say those things about RFK!” But then again, he is overdue for yet another public hissy fit.

pilamaye on May 27, 2008 at 7:43 AM

The fact that Howard Dean & Nancy Pelosi have refused to seat the delegates from Michigan & Florida is the biggest (most blatant) attempt I’ve ever seen by a political party to disenfranchise voters. These are historical times; the mask has been removed from the face of the Democrat Party. The lie that they “represent the lil people” has been pulled out of the closet for everyone to see. Not even the thugs at the MSM can cover-up this blatant act.

Can’t feel sorry for the Clinton’s though. Talk about “what goes around comes around.” Both of the Clinton’s should be spending the remainder of their lives behind bars for the crimes they have committed to country (think Chinese); these folks should take their millions and slink back out of sight, hoping that the MSM never reveals what they actually know about these two snakes.

Keemo on May 27, 2008 at 7:48 AM

bikermailman on May 27, 2008 at 7:36 AM

I’m not saying you’re wrong, but worldwide instant communication media has changed the fundamental equation of ‘paying attention to small states’ and both campaign and election mechanics have remained in the anachronistic ‘campaign by horseback’ method the Founders had to deal with. Instead, they’re starting campaigns earlier and earlier, with everyone getting the point at around month 3 and campaign fatigue at around month 6.

In this day and age, with all the media technology we have at our disposal, there should be no reason whatsoever that a candidate should have to personally travel to any of the ’57 states’ or expand a campaign out BEYOND the time it took to elect someone in the 1700s…the addition of states to the Union, legitimate or imaginary, aside.

James on May 27, 2008 at 7:51 AM

Hope ol Billy Jeff wasn’t watching Ted Sorensen being interviewed on Charlie Rose last night. In a nutshell – Obama is JFK…no that is not correct..Obama IS JFK and Hillary is doggie business. It was a flat out endorsement of Barak as champion on international law and organization and Hillary as Darth Vader.

Limerick on May 27, 2008 at 8:03 AM

In a few years Obama will be thrown under the bus as well.

I don’t think so. Yesterday, MSM (including Fox) gave Obama’s speech prominence more so than the Prez. Did anyone hear about Obama’s BIG GAFFE?

Anita on May 27, 2008 at 8:07 AM

Does the victimization card ever expire for liberals?

Quisp on May 27, 2008 at 8:23 AM

In an appearance this weekend, Bill told a South Dakota audience that his wife has been victimized by the primary process.

Hillery is a victim, again..

the entire justification of the two (HRC and BHO) are just who is the bigger victim of the process and deserves it more..

DaveC on May 27, 2008 at 8:23 AM

A vast left wing conspiracy

Dollayo on May 27, 2008 at 8:36 AM

Irrelevance is the worst possible punishment for the Clintons. I just hate that it comes via such a total empty suit who is dangerous to the country. I am very worried about what actually happens if Obambi is elected.

rockmom on May 27, 2008 at 8:45 AM

Let’s see,now where did I hear that phrase,Oh ya,
sorry Bill,but I don’t think anybody wants to feel
your pain!

The reason the Liberal MSM are pouncing on Hillary
relentlessly is there’s no way the media wants to
be under Cru-ella De HilRods thumb for another eight
years like they did with Slick Willy!

canopfor on May 27, 2008 at 8:48 AM

Terry McAuliffe deserves to land himself as a star in a new reality show——”Plausible Deniability”

Rovin on May 27, 2008 at 8:50 AM

The press treated Hillary Clinton as an inevitability from the moment even before she announced her bid for the presidency NYS Senate.

Connie on May 27, 2008 at 9:00 AM

for Senator from NYS, I should say…

Connie on May 27, 2008 at 9:02 AM

if the clinton’s had just dropped the rev. wright stuff before Iowa she would’ve had no trouble.

jp on May 27, 2008 at 9:20 AM

Is that an orange tie he’s wearing? Billy Jeff is dressed like a clown, how fitting. I can’t see his shoes, maybe they are four sizes too big to.

Maxx on May 27, 2008 at 9:22 AM

The Clintons are justifiably upset: the media whore they thought they had bought and paid for developed wandering eyes.

drunyan8315 on May 27, 2008 at 9:23 AM

Bill Clinton: Never have so many disrespected so few.

George S. Patton he’s not.”

Ed, In the credit where credit is due department, It was Winston Churchill that said “Never have so many owed so much to so few” Not General Patton. Or did you say it that way because Bill is standing in front of a large American Flag? Still… I think you are getting your mix all talked up. And about Patton on Memorial day?! tsk. tsk.

Swinehound on May 27, 2008 at 9:29 AM

It doesn’t really matter what anyone thinks of the Clintons, Bill’s point that Hillary may have the popular vote, but will lose the nomination to the “Super-delegates” is a valid argument.
The fact that a candidate can have the popular vote, but not be elected, is an electoral collage loophole that needs to be fixed.

KMC1 on May 27, 2008 at 7:32 AM

Sure, go ahead and fix the EC “loophole”. You’ll see the end to the two party system in this country when all the large liberal/socialist urban areas determine who the president will be.
And I noticed the Clintons werent complaining when Bill won the EC twice but only obtained something like 43% of the popular vote. The democrats only want things like super delegates and the EC done away with then they are losing.
Frankly, I’m sick of Bill’s whining. If he doesnt like the superdelegate system, then use his influence in the democrat party to change it. Otherwise STHU.
Maybe an Obama victory will get these two off of the public stage for good. But no, Bill will be another Jimmy Carter trying to undermine President Obama. Bill’s a nasty vindictive SOB.

abcurtis on May 27, 2008 at 9:51 AM

Bill wants to fight this all summer long, using the two disputed states as the bloody shirt.

Just picking up where Rush left off.

fourstringfuror on May 27, 2008 at 10:03 AM

Bill, I feel your pain.

jgapinoy on May 27, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Billy Dale had worked in the White House travel office for three decades. He had served 7 presidents…But Hillary Clinton wanted Dale and his associates gone. She wanted him gone very badly….
What had Dale done to Hillary? The answer is he had done nothing. Dale and six others were simply in the way of her plans.
…during the 1992 campaign, the Clintons used an Arkansas travel agency, World Wide Travel. They worked with a Clinton cousin, Catherine Cornelius. WWT provided a million dollars in deferred travel for the Clinton campaign, freeing up much needed cash for campaigning. Employees of the firm donated to the Clinton campaign.
It gets even better. The supposed investigation against Travel Office “accounting improprieties” was headed by none other than Cornelius herself just as she was planning with World Wide Travel for a reorganization that would put her in charge of the department. She gets a good job and Thomason gets a hugely profitable business.
The Clintons had every right to simply dismiss Dale and the others and bring in their own people. Hillary, the brains behind the operation, not only had Dale fired, but also tried to send him to prison. Firing was not good enough. In May of 1993 the employees were given one hour’s notice to clean out their desks, and they were escorted away in a windowless van. The replacement was made without competitive bid.
The firing and trumped-up charges against Dale became a public relations nightmare, so Hillary had to distance herself. Keeping in mind that the first instinct of the Clintons is always to lie, that is exactly what she did. She claimed that she had nothing to do with the firing.
The nightmare grew worse for Dale as the FBI was brought in and he was charged with embezzling money from the Travel Office. At one point, the cost of trial would have been so prohibitively expensive that Dale tried to do a plea bargain to just make it go away. Fortunately, the government did not accept a plea bargain. When it came to trial, Dale was acquitted by the jury in under 2 hours.

Sometimes you just have to bring up the past to remember who we are really talking about.
If anyone knows about disrespect, the Clinton’s do.

right2bright on May 27, 2008 at 10:37 AM

Hey Bill, guess what?

Nobody cares about you any more. How about you shut up and go away?

mojo on May 27, 2008 at 11:32 AM

rockmom on May 27, 2008 at 8:45 AM

They’ve been mocked, ignored, insulted, and kicked to the curb by the media as well as the Dem party. The best revenge? Run as an Independent and sink Obama’s boat.

nyrofan on May 27, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Former Republican Presidents leave office and lead a less public life. Former Democrat Presidents leave office and stir the pot in hopes of regaining a spot in the limelight.

Clinton and Carter are an embarassment.

old trooper on May 27, 2008 at 12:36 PM

Do ya think Bill will finally understand that the great conspiracy he’s been seeing belongs to the socialists from his own party? Nah, I didn’t think so either.

Buzzy on May 27, 2008 at 1:23 PM

Prayer One is being answered– on to #Two.

leftnomore on May 27, 2008 at 1:43 PM