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Thank you comrade Maxine Waters for making it all so clear.
Maxx on May 23, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Sums it up nicely.

Today, with chatrooms, IM’s and text messages, to socialize means to hang out, so when a dolt like Maxine Waters flubs the multiple syllable word and threatens “to take over” oil companies, it really doesn’t raise too many plucked eyebrows. …

We may be the wealthiest country in the world, but that wealth does not belong to the government, nor was it created by the government.

Certain politicians seem unable to understand that. Call it “Obamenomics”.

NeighborhoodCatLady on May 23, 2008 at 7:41 AM

Very well put.

But the fact that she called herself a “liberal” twice is of no great consequence, after all, who didn’t know that she was a raging liberal? What was so substantial about her statement is that she also admitted her a communist/socialist tendencies in the very same statement, albeit only by a slip of the tongue.

Actually that’s no big news either for people who are truly attuned to the real nature of Democrats. Nevertheless, she was caught flatfooted on this one and we should rub Democrat’s noses in it at every opportunity.

Thank you comrade Maxine Waters for making it all so clear.

Note also, the MSM, except for “Bird Flu, almost completely ignores Viet Nam these days. Wonder why? (sarcasm). Next question, when will American Liberals become as economically literate as Vietnamese Communists?

correction: “liberating!”

Ed

…Spot On!

You imbecile

Please refrain from ad hominem fallacies. They serve no constructive purpose.

You can keep your head in the sand, like most “Conservatives,” and keep calling people “Democrats” and “Liberals,” instead of what they are – “Socialists and Communists.” [Please see the comments of Maxine Waters, on a recent HA thread]. You can pretend that this Nation is doing fine, that there is nothing to worry about, and that all is well. In this regard, I note that you’ve not countered any of my argument, with anything which would serve to eliminate the destruction of this country – by Socialism.

Again, an ad hominem to start: I don’t recall calling anyone anything: “democrats,” “liberals,” “communists,” or whatever. Oh, and who said that this country is “fine?” The fallacies of relevance you’re using here do show a passionate pet rock that you have, a soap box if you will. Perhaps I can clear up your perceptions of my views with this: I’m not arguing that there are socialist underpinnings taught by our public schools, communistic policies enacted as public policy by “socialists” (to use the term on which you and I agree), nor am I so obtuse to recognize the threat you’ve pointed out.

In this regard, I note that you’ve not countered any of my argument, with anything which would serve to eliminate the destruction of this country – by Socialism.

Apparently you missed the intent of my response. My intent was not to counter your stated evidences for the socialistic acts of takeover in our society. My sole purpose was to challenge your view of an inexorable takeover by socialism. I saw a hopelessness in your comments that deserved challenging.

So, “pal,” save your “you can leave the country any time you wish” bullshit, for those who think that such platitudes are an adequate response to describing the current destruction of our Nation.

Actually, such a response, restructured as an imperative, oh, and a “please,” would be very adequate for confronting hopelessness. Yes, the nation in danger. Got it. “In danger” does not equal “destroyed.” Some battles have been lost. Some won. Many are still to fight.

It is my having described what is happening to this country, that precisely indicates my desire to “change this country” – by making imbeciles like you take note of the ongoing threat. You can’t change the direction of this country, if you don’t perceive the threat. Not perceiving the threat, and, therefore, not making it a topic of discussion, is for dullards like you.
OhEssYouCowboys on May 23, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Yep, got the threat. Moving on now. May I ask, “So, what now?” We have not lost. I plan on sticking around for a while and continue fighting, both overseas and abroad. I’m not putting down my weapon just yet. You’re more than welcome to keep fighting with us “conservatives” rather than trying to fulfill your self-fulfilling prophecy.

Waters is a grade A moron, as are all, ALL Marxists and socialists. The entire history of mankind is a repudiation of their beliefs, but they just stick their fingers in their ears and keep going.

If they keep pushing, it will eventually get bloody – it always does.

I think it’s hilarious that the left criticizes “American Exceptionalism” when they think themselves an exception to the entirety of history.

No, the federal government spends too much money on the Farm Bill and nationalization of the oil industry and in 100 other ways, but the federal government does not spend too much money on the GI Bill.

You need to get this right. The proper response for McCain in reaction to Obama trying to bid up Webb’s GI Bill is for McCain to come over the top (Texas Hold ‘em parlance) and over bid Obama.

Not to try and use veterans as a bludgeon against Obama.

You need another reason why McCain is going to lose? This is one.

“Liberal” and “conservative” have long been used as epithets in US politics. Most often, they’re used by people who really have no clear idea what the words mean, they just use them as convenient insults to throw at persons on…

Send_Me on May 23, 2008 at 2:20 PM

You imbecile, I’ve just described what is destroying my country. You can keep your head in the sand, like most “Conservatives,” and keep calling people “Democrats” and “Liberals,” instead of what they are – “Socialists and Communists.” [Please see the comments of Maxine Waters, on a recent HA thread]. You can pretend that this Nation is doing fine, that there is nothing to worry about, and that all is well. In this regard, I note that you’ve not countered any of my argument, with anything which would serve to eliminate the destruction of this country – by Socialism.

Your admission that there is a “danger” that “what you said” could “actually happen” is a self-indictment on your part. My point, one that you, of course, utterly missed – is that it IS happening. And, “pal,” it’s BEEN happening for over 4 decades.

So, “pal,” save your “you can leave the country any time you wish” bullshit, for those who think that such platitudes are an adequate response to describing the current destruction of our Nation.

It is my having described what is happening to this country, that precisely indicates my desire to “change this country” – by making imbeciles like you take note of the ongoing threat. You can’t change the direction of this country, if you don’t perceive the threat. Not perceiving the threat, and, therefore, not making it a topic of discussion, is for dullards like you.

because a majority of “Americans” are Socialists, this Nation will collapse. She is lost. She is doomed to become just another stagnant country, wallowing in the Socialist cesspool of despair, failure and hopelessness.
OhEssYouCowboys on May 23, 2008 at 1:46 PM

You’re welcome to move any time you wish, pal. If you are not willing to help change this country, to prevent such “loss” from happening, then by all means leave. Is there a danger of what you said actually happening? Yes, to be sure; however, nothing is inevitable, well, except for taxes, death, Christ’s 2nd coming, the Cardinals winning another Series… Your frustration is understandable, but if you and everyone else gives up, then your “prophecy” will be self-fulfilling, in which case, I’ll blame you.

God help us.

Send_Me

totally agree

Because of the above, and because a majority of “Americans” are Socialists, this Nation will collapse. She is lost. She is doomed to become just another stagnant country, wallowing in the Socialist cesspool of despair, failure and hopelessness.

Lenin said it best – Destroy the family, and the society will collapse. Because of Socialism – God has been eliminated from the public forum. This has resulted in the embracing of divorce, adultery, abortion and homosexuality; all of which has led to the destruction of the family. And, as Lenin said, when the family is destroyed, society collapses. When society collapses, who will pick up the pieces? The State. The State becomes the God and Nurturer of the People.

This Nation is on the verge of destruction – by Socialist design.

Who’s ever doing his writing is very good…

patrick neid on May 23, 2008 at 12:39 PM

It’s Mark Salter, with whom McCain authored 5 books. The guy is very good and feisty on top of it.

I think you are wrong about McCain’s remarks. This is a powerful peace. Wow. Here it is in full. Who’s ever doing his writing is very good.

“It is typical, but no less offensive that Senator Obama uses the Senate floor to take cheap shots at an opponent and easy advantage of an issue he has less than zero understanding of. Let me say first in response to Senator Obama, running for President is different than serving as President. The office comes with responsibilities so serious that the occupant can’t always take the politically easy route without hurting the country he is sworn to defend. Unlike Senator Obama, my admiration, respect and deep gratitude for America’s veterans is something more than a convenient campaign pledge. I think I have earned the right to make that claim.

“When I was five years old, a car pulled up in front of our house in New London, Connecticut, and a Navy officer rolled down the window, and shouted at my father that the Japanese had bombed Pearl Harbor. My father immediately left for the submarine base where he was stationed. I rarely saw him again for four years. My grandfather, who commanded the fast carrier task force under Admiral Halsey, came home from the war exhausted from the burdens he had borne, and died the next day. I grew up in the Navy; served for twenty-two years as a naval officer; and, like Senator Webb, personally experienced the terrible costs war imposes on the veteran. The friendships I formed in war remain among the closest relationships in my life. The Navy is still the world I know best and love most. In Vietnam, where I formed the closest friendships of my life, some of those friends never came home to the country they loved so well.

“But I am running for the office of Commander-in-Chief. That is the highest privilege in this country, and it imposes the greatest responsibilities. It would be easier politically for me to have joined Senator Webb in offering his legislation. More importantly, I feel just as he does, that we owe veterans the respect and generosity of a great nation because no matter how generously we show our gratitude it will never compensate them fully for all the sacrifices they have borne on our behalf.

“Senators Graham, Burr and I have offered legislation that would provide veterans with a substantial increase in educational benefits. The bill we have sponsored would increase monthly education benefits to $1500; eliminate the $1200 enrollment fee; and offer a $1000 annually for books and supplies. Importantly, we would allow veterans to transfer those benefits to their spouses or dependent children or use a part of them to pay down existing student loans. We also increase benefits to the Guard and Reserve, and even more generously to those who serve in the Selected Reserve.

“I know that my friend and fellow veteran, Senator Jim Webb, an honorable man who takes his responsibility to veterans very seriously, has offered legislation with very generous benefits. I respect and admire his position, and I would never suggest that he has anything other than the best of intentions to honor the service of deserving veterans. Both Senator Webb and I are united in our deep appreciation for the men and women who risk their lives so that the rest of us may be secure in our freedom. And I take a backseat to no one in my affection, respect and devotion to veterans. And I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did.

“The most important difference between our two approaches is that Senator Webb offers veterans who served one enlistment the same benefits as those offered veterans who have re-enlisted several times. Our bill has a sliding scale that offers generous benefits to all veterans, but increases those benefits according to the veteran’s length of service. I think it is important to do that because, otherwise, we will encourage more people to leave the military after they have completed one enlistment. At a time when the United States military is fighting in two wars, and as we finally are beginning the long overdue and very urgent necessity of increasing the size of the Army and Marine Corps, one study estimates that Senator Webb’s bill will reduce retention rates by 16%.

“Most worrying to me, is that by hurting retention we will reduce the numbers of men and women who we train to become the backbone of all the services, the noncommissioned officer. In my life, I have learned more from noncommissioned officers I have known and served with than anyone else outside my family. And in combat, no one is more important to their soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen, and to the officers who command them, than the sergeant and petty officer. They are very hard to replace. Encouraging people not to choose to become noncommissioned officers would hurt the military and our country very badly. As I said, the office of President, which I am seeking, is a great honor, indeed, but it imposes serious responsibilities. How faithfully the President discharges those responsibilities will determine whether he or she deserves the honor. I can only tell you I intend to deserve the honor if I am fo rtunate to receive it, even if it means I must take politically unpopular positions at times and disagree with people for whom I have the highest respect and affection.

“Perhaps, if Senator Obama would take the time and trouble to understand this issue he would learn to debate an honest disagreement respectfully. But, as he always does, he prefers impugning the motives of his opponent, and exploiting a thoughtful difference of opinion to advance his own ambitions. If that is how he would behave as President, the country would regret his election.”

Yes, sadly, I see myself in that front picture, struggling to hold that socialis-Marxist boulder. HEEEEEEELP!!!!!!!!

Wake up America before it is too late.

Last night the limo driver who picked me up at the airport told me to vote for Obama. When I asked him why he said “he’s, young, was unknown until recently, has no experience, but the people like him because he can speak well”. I told him that I’d watch between now and Nov. to help me make up my mind.

To myself I thought “the meek will never inherit the world, but they will always be fooled, be the fools, and will be used”. Also, I thought “they are going for a Preacher in Chief” and our whoremedia and whorespondents will try hard to aid them. “Nice”, as Anslow would say, but tragic.