Freaky deaky video: Earthquake lights in China?

posted at 11:10 am on May 21, 2008 by Allahpundit

The top video is featured on LiveLeak this morning, the bottom comes from Gabe at Ace’s place. Both were allegedly shot within an hour before the big quake hit. There’s no way to rule out a hoax — the videos do appear to have been shot in different locations, but that’s S.O.P. for YouTube F/X shenanigans — but do note that this is not the first time odd lights have been spotted before a monster quake in China. Which way does that detail cut? Is it corroborating evidence or just the origin of the hoax, playing upon some sort of cultural memory of the earlier disaster? Anyone know anything about this? A few theories here.

Oh, and here’s the obligatory DU thread blaming the U.S. for causing it.


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Displays like this are not uncommon.

http://www.atoptics.co.uk/rainbows/notabow.htm

http://www.atoptics.co.uk/halo/cha2.htm

crosspatch on May 21, 2008 at 11:17 AM

Hmm…a gaseous anomaly. Pretty freaky indeed if real. lol @ the DUmmies, too.

Sir Loin on May 21, 2008 at 11:18 AM

How come we can cause earthquakes in China but we can’t shut Keith Olberman up?

Akzed on May 21, 2008 at 11:19 AM

Obviously, the clouds are spelling out HOPE!

PappaMac on May 21, 2008 at 11:23 AM

but it looks a lot like a circumhorizontal arc to me.

I’m with Gabriel on this. It is clearly a coincidence and looks just like the photos in the link.

ronsfi on May 21, 2008 at 11:23 AM

The’re called sun dogs.

drjohn on May 21, 2008 at 11:24 AM

Obviously, the clouds are spelling out HOPE!

PappaMac on May 21, 2008 at 11:23 AM

No. I think it says in Chinese “Surrender Dorothy”.

Shy Guy on May 21, 2008 at 11:26 AM

That’s because Olberman’s mouth has more energy than an 8.0 quake, but less intelligence.

MarkTheGreat on May 21, 2008 at 11:26 AM

Wow. Who da thunk… ice crystals in the atmosphere.

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Lights in the sky by them self are not unusual. The Aurora Borealis is one example of pretty lights in the sky. And the Aurora Borealis exists because there is a hole in our magnetic field at the North Pole. Many of the solar rays that are typically blocked by our magnetic field slide down this hole and interact with our atmosphere thus causing the light effects.

If this is not a hoax perhaps something similar is happening here. Perhaps tectonic activity somehow weakens our magnetic field locally thus allowing otherwise blocked solar activity to enter our atmosphere.

Of course some day there will be colored lights all over the place when our magnetic field pretty much shuts down in preparation for its periodic flip when north becomes south and south becomes north. And since the data shows that our magnetic field has been getting steadily weaker for over three thousand years now and a magnetic flip is over due based on geological evidence, we could be in for a long and vast light show very soon.

NotCoach on May 21, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Dude, play both videos at the same time. Dorothy and the Scarecrow totally start dancing when “Brain Damage” starts playing. /stoner

Cuffy Meigs on May 21, 2008 at 11:28 AM

So we can cause earthquakes in China, hurricanes in New Orlenes, kill thousands of our own civillians by flying planes into our own buildings and cover up all this and yet we can’t seem to plant some WMD evidence in Iraq.

crazy_legs on May 21, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Am I the only one here that’s simply seeing clouds with the sun hitting them in such a way as to give them a little color?

tbradshaw on May 21, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Alien Deathray technology has fallen into the hands of the infidels

EricPWJohnson on May 21, 2008 at 11:31 AM

And since the data shows that our magnetic field has been getting steadily weaker for over three thousand years now and a magnetic flip is over due based on geological evidence, we could be in for a long and vast light show very soon.

And it’s caused by MAN!!!

/algore

crazy_legs on May 21, 2008 at 11:31 AM

Typical visible light refraction. We aren’t known as earthquake country down here south of the Red River and these type of ice cloud rainbows aren’t unusual, esp in the late afternoon.

Limerick on May 21, 2008 at 11:35 AM

I see these lights every time Karl Rove beams a command into my brain.

chriscoolc on May 21, 2008 at 11:41 AM

Another possibility is piezoelectric energies, caused by friction between different earth movements. Or:

“In the post 9-11 environment, American foreign policy has adopted a new strategy known as the “Bush Doctrine&quot. This strategy calls for pre-emptive strikes against any nation, group or individual that threatens American national security interests. As I write this document (in early December 2004), several apparently coincidental events weigh heavy in my mind. Was the massive earthquake in southern Iran, near the city of Bam a natural occurrence, or was it an example of the Bush Doctrine in action? Recently the American government has expressed it’s displeasure with the Japanese and Chinese governments over their continued technological and financial involvement with Iran. Both Japan and China have also experienced a sudden rash of earthquake activity. Coincidence or something more sinister? Perhaps you should ask George W. Bush.”

http://tinyurl.com/5vuzco

All kinds of nuts out there.

Tom

marinetbryant on May 21, 2008 at 11:42 AM

NotCoach, you must be a geologist. I have never heard anyone else reference the magnetic reversals before. That ought to ge a great show!

bopbottle on May 21, 2008 at 11:43 AM

I am constantly stunned at the jaw dropping stupidity of a huge chunk of humanity.

ronsfi on May 21, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Some of those comments on DU are truly disturbing, these moonbats will believe anything and everything especially if it makes Bush and Cheney look eeeevvvviiiilll!!

Seriously, everything is a conspiracy with these nut-jobs and the only thing more disturbing than that is the fact they will be voting in the next election!

Liberty or Death on May 21, 2008 at 11:44 AM

Looks like Crosspatch nailed it first comment out. I’d never even heard of a circumhorizon arc. Good job.

Blacklake on May 21, 2008 at 11:45 AM

I question the timing of those lights.

lorien1973 on May 21, 2008 at 11:45 AM

Ehm…. Maybe just rainbow clouds?

Known in the weather world as a circumhorizontal arc, this rare sight was caught on film on June 3 as it hung over northern Idaho near the Washington State border.

The arc isn’t a rainbow in the traditional sense—it is caused by light passing through wispy, high-altitude cirrus clouds. The sight occurs only when the sun is very high in the sky (more than 58° above the horizon). What’s more, the hexagonal ice crystals that make up cirrus clouds must be shaped like thick plates with their faces parallel to the ground.

Took about 20 seconds to debunk. Next!

Seixon on May 21, 2008 at 11:45 AM

its just part of a plot by karl rove at the behest of bush to RULE THE WORLD

right4life on May 21, 2008 at 11:51 AM

NotCoach, you must be a geologist. I have never heard anyone else reference the magnetic reversals before. That ought to ge a great show!

bopbottle on May 21, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Lol. I am no geologist, just love science. And no, I do not believe in anthropomorphic global warming.

NotCoach on May 21, 2008 at 11:55 AM

Earthquake sky. Big deal. /LA Woman

baldilocks on May 21, 2008 at 11:57 AM

How come we can cause earthquakes in China but we can’t shut Keith Olberman up?

Akzed on May 21, 2008 at 11:19 AM

Quote of the Day!

Connie on May 21, 2008 at 11:58 AM

Known in the weather world as a circumhorizontal arc, this rare sight was caught on film on June 3 as it hung over northern Idaho near the Washington State border.

A “rare site” literally within an hour of a huge quake — when other strange lights were reported before the 1976 quake? Quite a coincidence.

Allahpundit on May 21, 2008 at 12:00 PM

Allahpundit on May 21, 2008 at 12:00 PM

Conspiracy? Allah I never thought you were the type.

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Recently the American government has expressed it’s displeasure with the Japanese and Chinese governments over their continued technological and financial involvement with Iran. Both Japan and China have also experienced a sudden rash of earthquake activity. Coincidence or something more sinister? Perhaps you should ask George W. Bush.”

George Bush, the Chuck Norris of diplomacy.

NellE on May 21, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Conspiracy? Allah I never thought you were the type.

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM

He’s not calling it a conspiracy, but pointing out the possible connection between earthquakes and sky lights.

NotCoach on May 21, 2008 at 12:07 PM

I am constantly stunned at the jaw dropping stupidity of a huge chunk of humanity.

ronsfi on May 21, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Me too, like all the humanity that will be voting for BO.

kirkill on May 21, 2008 at 12:09 PM

How come we can cause earthquakes in China but we can’t shut Keith Olberman up?

Akzed on May 21, 2008 at 11:19 AM
Quote of the Day!

Connie on May 21, 2008 at 11:58 AM

By gosh, using Al Gore-ian logic, I can only conclude that KO talking causes Chinese earthquakes.

Rhinoboy on May 21, 2008 at 12:10 PM

By gosh, using Al Gore-ian logic, I can only conclude that KO talking causes Chinese earthquakes.

Rhinoboy on May 21, 2008 at 12:10 PM

Well, this earthquake did not happen before KO got his own show on MSNBC, Coincidence? Why don’t we ask KO?

NotCoach on May 21, 2008 at 12:12 PM

NotCoach on May 21, 2008 at 12:07 PM

LOL, well if you believe everything concerning “weird” phenomenon, such as ice crystals in the sky causing the “sun dog” effect and WHAM, there is an earthquake… I guess that means you like conspiracies.

Sun Dogs or the “rainbows” like crosspatch and showing those sites, are normal here in “HAARP” land, due to the cold. Hell the ice crystals at -15 here in Anchorage, make everything explode into a rainbow effect right in front of you, due to the dryness of the Arctic.

Superstition is interesting though. Been through the Washington Earthquake in 2001, after the Mardi Gras riots. Should I say it was the Mayor who angered the Mardi Gras God’s, after he said there would not be anymore Mardi Gras celebration in downtown Seattle. NO!

Stuff like this cracks me up, and I was only teasing Allah… unlike some who actually believe this stuff.

If you want to figure out an earthquake, watch your animals… best indicator!

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 12:19 PM

No, this was not caused by HAARP. It was caused by this new element: Governmentium.

Research has led to the discovery of the heaviest element yet known to science. The new element, Governmentium (Gv), has one neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.

These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons. Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert; however, it can be detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact. A minute amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that would normally take less than a second to take from four days to four years to complete.

Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2- 6 years; It does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. In fact, Governmentium’s mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes. This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a critical concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as critical morass.

When catalyzed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium, an element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons.

cjs1943 on May 21, 2008 at 12:26 PM

I think the circumhorizontal arc is a valid explanation given that the wisps of color appear to be taking place in cirrus clouds. At 1:30 PM in May in southwest China, the sun would be higher than the required 58 degrees elevation to create it.

If it could be proven, though, that both filmers were near and were shooting in the direction of the epicenter, though, that would make for an interesting discussion, to be sure. As for the theory of a hole in the magnetic shield caused by the strain about to break beneath, presented above by NotCoach, I do find that plausible. The resulting aurora would not look like a rainbow though, right? The few auroras I’ve seen didn’t remind me of rainbows at all.

flutejpl on May 21, 2008 at 12:29 PM

cjs1943 on May 21, 2008 at 12:26 PM

LMFAO HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA! Awesome!

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 12:29 PM

LOL, well if you believe everything concerning “weird” phenomenon, such as ice crystals in the sky causing the “sun dog” effect and WHAM, there is an earthquake… I guess that means you like conspiracies.

You are still confusing conspiracy with observed phenomena. I have no idea if there is a link between pretty lights and earthquakes. But commenting on coincidence does not mean a belief in conspiracy. Please look up the word.

NotCoach on May 21, 2008 at 12:30 PM

And since the data shows that our magnetic field has been getting steadily weaker for over three thousand years now and a magnetic flip is over due based on geological evidence, we could be in for a long and vast light show very soon.

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Jeepers. Anyone know where I can buy some rice?

SlimyBill on May 21, 2008 at 12:34 PM

As for the theory of a hole in the magnetic shield caused by the strain about to break beneath, presented above by NotCoach, I do find that plausible. The resulting aurora would not look like a rainbow though, right? The few auroras I’ve seen didn’t remind me of rainbows at all.

flutejpl on May 21, 2008 at 12:29

I was just tossing fun stuff out there without any real knowledge on the subject. Just thought it would be fun to point out the link between our magnetic field and pretty lights.

NotCoach on May 21, 2008 at 12:34 PM

flutejpl on May 21, 2008 at 12:29 PM

You are correct. Aurora’s look like they dance, run or “prance” as I heard someone else say which makes sense. They also do what looks like a tidal wave. And in some cases, when you see them above you (this is usually when they are multiple different colors blue, pink, reds, purples but never green) they look like they are falling on you… in a downward motion.

And if the magnetic shield was about to “break” why wasn’t there one in the Washington one or the Alaska one(s)? So I do not find it plausible.

Flute… now just on your speculation. Alaska has a high vantage because the sun is now “sitting” on top of the arctic… world tilting towards sun. How is it that I still see the rainbows, or sun dogs all the time still?

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 12:36 PM

NotCoach on May 21, 2008 at 12:30 PM

LMFAO… DUDE! Are you MAD? Can you not debate? Or are you just getting upset?

Look, where I live is small. We have many a different degree of people up here. I work a lot with geologists, physicist, seismologists, chemists and a few other random people.

They have seen this video… They all agree. Ice Crystals in the atmosphere. Not trying to rain on your parade. I do not believe this has anything to do with magnetism.

We see these constantly up here, they are nothing new. If they were so special, why weren’t they spotted during the 8.1 here in Alaska? Or any of the earthquakes that happen constantly up here as well as quite a few that happen in Cali, AZ, Utah, Washington and Oregon lately? Hawaii has just as many, and nothing there as well. Don’t believe me… Check out the USGS on earthquakes today!

Think Air Mass, Low pressure, density, cloud coverage, which air layer were the clouds on and why type of cloud were they?

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 12:48 PM

The’re called sun dogs.

drjohn on May 21, 2008 at 11:24 AM

Thats the ticket, ice cyrstals and light refraction, A fairly common sight if you pay attention to the sky.

dmann on May 21, 2008 at 12:57 PM

LMFAO… DUDE! Are you MAD? Can you not debate? Or are you just getting upset?

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 12:48 PM

There is no debate here. What there is here is an inability on your part to read. People speculating about nonsense they have little or no knowledge of is not a conspiracy. I don’t care what you think is or is not the cause because I was never addressing that issue with you. I was addressing your notion of conspiracy.

NotCoach on May 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM

First we find out Sulu is gay, and now strange lights in the sky… Signs!

Wyznowski on May 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM

It’s pretty obvious from the video that this is just a rainbow-style effect caused by sunlight passing through wispy clouds. I mean, you can see the actual clouds!

There is no evidence that these shots were taken any time close to the earthquake, or that they were actually filmed anywhere near the earthquakes (China is virtually the same size as the US). This is an absolute non-story.

jic on May 21, 2008 at 1:03 PM

If it doesn’t fit your own understanding of reality, then deny it and mock whomever speaks of it. Hell, just jump on Gore’s Global warming wagon, he has all the answers./s
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USGS earthquake lights

abinitioadinfinitum on May 21, 2008 at 1:04 PM

NotCoach on May 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM

No you were noting the fact that I said I didn’t think Allah was that type. Allah is a big boy and can take care of himself, he really doesn’t need to have a protector.

Other then that, you are boring and the fact you don’t like my answers do not bother me to any degree. Please step away from the keyboard and take a breath.

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 1:07 PM

cjs1943 on May 21, 2008 at 12:26 PM

You forgot a few details. It must be noted that the various particles within Governmentium switch polarity between Right and Left every four years or so. Astoundingly, while these switches do not yield any significant changes in the overall behavior of Governmentium, it does lead to noticeable impacts on the other elements that interact with which Governmentium interacts. For instance, when Governmentium has a Right polarity, Anti-Bushions tend to get really excited and radioactive. When Governmentium has a Left polarity, particles with the same electrical charge begin to attract to one another and Governmentium begins leaching electrons from more massive elements and redistributing those among less massive elements.

jasnell on May 21, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Other then that, you are boring and the fact you don’t like my answers do not bother me to any degree. Please step away from the keyboard and take a breath.

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 1:07 PM

Yes master. Finally understanding that I argued with no one, including yourself, what causes this and our only disagreement was on the meaning of conspiracy? Or does it bore you to finally realise the obvious?

NotCoach on May 21, 2008 at 1:11 PM

abinitioadinfinitum on May 21, 2008 at 1:04 PM

The light is sooooo prettyyyy. Must touch!

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 1:12 PM

NotCoach on May 21, 2008 at 1:11 PM

Guess you have never heard of the phrase… Pawn.

And with that.. Yawn!

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 1:13 PM

upinak on May 21, 2008 at 1:12 PM

The shoe fit.

abinitioadinfinitum on May 21, 2008 at 1:14 PM

I question the timing.

EJDolbow on May 21, 2008 at 1:20 PM

Wait till they find out we can briefly blot out the sun, too!

wildweasel on May 21, 2008 at 1:27 PM

I guess Rosie “Ching Chong Ching Chong” O’Donnnell was unavailable for translating.

mattshu on May 21, 2008 at 1:42 PM

its just part of a plot by karl rove at the behest of bush to RULE THE WORLD

right4life on May 21, 2008 at 11:51 AM

These lights are merely one more trick that can be done with the Rove weather machine.

Bigfoot on May 21, 2008 at 1:43 PM

When they shoot a Minutemen rocket off at Vandenburg stuff like that shows up in the sky afterward. I always thought it was residual rocket fuel.

Hmmmmmm….

NTWR on May 21, 2008 at 2:01 PM

What do these lights around Obama portend?

wdmdoug on May 21, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Wow. I want to know what that song is playing in the background. The singer has a lovely voice, whoever she is.

GreenBlade on May 21, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Wow. Sunlight refracting through the icy moisture of clouds.

Never seen that before!

…gimme a break

SilverStar830 on May 21, 2008 at 7:22 PM

I don’t think the videos are fake, but I have no idea what that is. Kind of pretty, a little like a rainbow. Rainbows are just moisture refracting light like a prism.

Maxx on May 21, 2008 at 8:16 PM

A “rare site” literally within an hour of a huge quake — when other strange lights were reported before the 1976 quake? Quite a coincidence.

Allahpundit on May 21, 2008 at 12:00 PM

I have an open mind on this. I’ve read about disruptions in radio waves and other electromagnetic transmissions immediately prior to major earthquakes. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn of atmospheric disruptions.

Zorro on May 21, 2008 at 8:54 PM

What do these lights around Obama portend?

wdmdoug on May 21, 2008 at 3:28 PM

The near halo-like perfect circumference is proportionally equal to the digit representing his sum total knowledge of foreign policy: one big blinding goose egg.

Captain Scarlet on May 22, 2008 at 7:04 AM