Comments on: Quote of the day http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Tue, 29 May 2012 12:04:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: njcommuter http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1138685 njcommuter Wed, 21 May 2008 05:52:11 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1138685 Let's remember the One Big Thing: The vast majority of Iraqis are Moslims. We are counting on them to hunt Al Qaeda, the Sadrists, the Qods force, and various other Iranian and Syrian lackeys. They side with us precisely because our deeds have shown them principles they can admire and abide. Shooting a Koran blows this all to hell. A soldier's reward for foolish action in battle is often death or, worse, the death of his fellows or the failure of the mission. War is politics carried out by other means. This soldier's reward for insubordinate and foolish action in the diplomatic sphere should begin with the end of his military career and should probably include considerable losses of money and freedom, and all of Iraq should know it. Not because it does or does not represent his intentions, but because he must surely have violated standing orders as well as common sense and thereby put the fate of nations in jeopardy. If the Iraqi government states publicly that it will accept less, then so be it. If they later agree quietly to commutation of the sentence, so be it. But until and unless, punishing this soldier is not kowtowing to Iraq, it is keeping faith with an ally who is with us because of our principles. Let’s remember the One Big Thing: The vast majority of Iraqis are Moslims. We are counting on them to hunt Al Qaeda, the Sadrists, the Qods force, and various other Iranian and Syrian lackeys. They side with us precisely because our deeds have shown them principles they can admire and abide.

Shooting a Koran blows this all to hell.

A soldier’s reward for foolish action in battle is often death or, worse, the death of his fellows or the failure of the mission. War is politics carried out by other means. This soldier’s reward for insubordinate and foolish action in the diplomatic sphere should begin with the end of his military career and should probably include considerable losses of money and freedom, and all of Iraq should know it. Not because it does or does not represent his intentions, but because he must surely have violated standing orders as well as common sense and thereby put the fate of nations in jeopardy.

If the Iraqi government states publicly that it will accept less, then so be it. If they later agree quietly to commutation of the sentence, so be it. But until and unless, punishing this soldier is not kowtowing to Iraq, it is keeping faith with an ally who is with us because of our principles.

]]> By: landlines http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1137106 landlines Tue, 20 May 2008 16:35:28 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1137106 I see the <strong>Religion of the Perpetually Outraged</strong> is at it again. Until they start respecting other people's right to live and quit strapping bombs to their own women and children, they are not even close to "moral high ground" on this. If they don't like our soldiers, they can easily get them to leave: <em>just quit trying to kill soldiers and each other</em>. Until they can manage this basic tenet of civilization, the trappings of their beliefs deserve no respect whatsoever. I see the Religion of the Perpetually Outraged is at it again.

Until they start respecting other people’s right to live and quit strapping bombs to their own women and children, they are not even close to “moral high ground” on this.

If they don’t like our soldiers, they can easily get them to leave: just quit trying to kill soldiers and each other. Until they can manage this basic tenet of civilization, the trappings of their beliefs deserve no respect whatsoever.

]]> By: Enrique http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136921 Enrique Tue, 20 May 2008 15:04:15 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136921 Frankly, this soldier using the Quran for target practice was a disgrace. He should be punished as harshly as possible for threatening the mission with his irresponsible behavior. There's no defense for what he did whatsoever. Frankly, this soldier using the Quran for target practice was a disgrace. He should be punished as harshly as possible for threatening the mission with his irresponsible behavior. There’s no defense for what he did whatsoever.

]]> By: spmat http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136775 spmat Tue, 20 May 2008 14:04:33 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136775 Ok, the Quran lip-lock was one thing. If they lay a finger on that soldier... Ok, the Quran lip-lock was one thing. If they lay a finger on that soldier…

]]> By: Yitzchokm http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136749 Yitzchokm Tue, 20 May 2008 13:51:16 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136749 http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/20/africa/20iraq.php http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/20/africa/20iraq.php

]]> By: right2bright http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136736 right2bright Tue, 20 May 2008 13:42:15 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136736 Maybe the soldier was making the Koran more "holey"... Sometime I crack me up... Maybe the soldier was making the Koran more “holey”…
Sometime I crack me up…

]]> By: maverick muse http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136575 maverick muse Tue, 20 May 2008 10:15:53 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136575 The inane stupidity of the sorry assed soldier who brought out all this grief on everyone, particularly his buddies left to deal with the angry locals, and the leaders who look like they can't control their own! If all he got was a dismissal, that wouldn't do it considering that his lack of honor cost us a great deal of hard earned good will and will cost lives down the road given loonies as loose in the brains as this soldier. He needs latrine duty for the rest of his enlistment AT LEAST. The inane stupidity of the sorry assed soldier who brought out all this grief on everyone, particularly his buddies left to deal with the angry locals, and the leaders who look like they can’t control their own! If all he got was a dismissal, that wouldn’t do it considering that his lack of honor cost us a great deal of hard earned good will and will cost lives down the road given loonies as loose in the brains as this soldier. He needs latrine duty for the rest of his enlistment AT LEAST.

]]> By: labrat http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136562 labrat Tue, 20 May 2008 09:31:48 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136562 <blockquote>How many Koran can a .308 round penetrate? ronsfi on May 19, 2008 at 11:03 PM</blockquote> Don't know. I'll bet a .340 Weatherby mag could staple a few together.

How many Koran can a .308 round penetrate?

ronsfi on May 19, 2008 at 11:03 PM

Don’t know. I’ll bet a .340 Weatherby mag could staple a few together.

]]> By: labrat http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136559 labrat Tue, 20 May 2008 09:18:45 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136559 Hmmm, I thought CNN only hung out with insurgent snipers. Hmmm, I thought CNN only hung out with insurgent snipers.

]]> By: OldEnglish http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136549 OldEnglish Tue, 20 May 2008 08:13:07 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136549 <blockquote>profitsbeard on May 20, 2008 at 1:00 AM</blockquote> To heck with that! The last to recognize insanity are the insane. Therefore, reason does not work - discipline does.

profitsbeard on May 20, 2008 at 1:00 AM

To heck with that!

The last to recognize insanity are the insane. Therefore, reason does not work – discipline does.

]]> By: MB4 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136534 MB4 Tue, 20 May 2008 06:23:07 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136534 <i>"I suspect,if you looked back 60 years ago and tried to guess where Israel would be at that time, it would be hard to be able to project such a prosperous, hopeful land. No question people would have said, well, we'd be surrounded by hostile forces — but I doubt people would have been able to see the modern Israel, which is one reason I bring such optimism to the Middle East, because <b>what happened here is possible everywhere</b>." - George w. Bush (Speaking in Israel to mark the 60th anniversary of the nation's statehood) Let's run that last bit by again. The president says the singular experience of "modern Israel" is one reason for optimism in the Middle East "because what happened here (Israel) is possible everywhere." What happened in Israel — the modern incarnation of the ancient Jewish nation that today enshrines freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, rule of law, women's rights, etc. — is also anathema (anti-Islamic) to the Islamic Middle East, which to this day seeks or plots Israel's annihilation, not in a what has become a sham territorial dispute, but rather to deny infidels (former dhimmis, to boot) a foothold in what Muslims regard as once-Muslim land. To President Bush, though, the un-Islamic conditions culminating in an anti-Islamic event — 60 years of infidel liberty — constitute a pre-fab democracy franchise that might just as easily have opened up in Riyadh or Baghdad as in Tel Aviv. I think he sees it this way because, emotionally, he wants to see it this way. So, why aren't we now celebrating 60 years of infidel-style liberty in Saudi Arabia or Iraq? Since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein in 2003, that "advance of freedom" has mainly empowered Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood — not my idea of "secure." Of course, not my idea of "freedom," either. But we're supposed to forget the fact that Western-style freedom is actually antithetical to Islamic law. In fact, we're supposed to forget about Islamic law. Given the administration's new lexicon that quashes most official references to Islam, we're supposed to forget about Islam, too. <b>- Diana West</b></i> “I suspect,if you looked back 60 years ago and tried to guess where Israel would be at that time, it would be hard to be able to project such a prosperous, hopeful land. No question people would have said, well, we’d be surrounded by hostile forces — but I doubt people would have been able to see the modern Israel, which is one reason I bring such optimism to the Middle East, because what happened here is possible everywhere.”
- George w. Bush (Speaking in Israel to mark the 60th anniversary of the nation’s statehood)

Let’s run that last bit by again. The president says the singular experience of “modern Israel” is one reason for optimism in the Middle East “because what happened here (Israel) is possible everywhere.”

What happened in Israel — the modern incarnation of the ancient Jewish nation that today enshrines freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, rule of law, women’s rights, etc. — is also anathema (anti-Islamic) to the Islamic Middle East, which to this day seeks or plots Israel’s annihilation, not in a what has become a sham territorial dispute, but rather to deny infidels (former dhimmis, to boot) a foothold in what Muslims regard as once-Muslim land.

To President Bush, though, the un-Islamic conditions culminating in an anti-Islamic event — 60 years of infidel liberty — constitute a pre-fab democracy franchise that might just as easily have opened up in Riyadh or Baghdad as in Tel Aviv. I think he sees it this way because, emotionally, he wants to see it this way.

So, why aren’t we now celebrating 60 years of infidel-style liberty in Saudi Arabia or Iraq?

Since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein in 2003, that “advance of freedom” has mainly empowered Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood — not my idea of “secure.” Of course, not my idea of “freedom,” either. But we’re supposed to forget the fact that Western-style freedom is actually antithetical to Islamic law. In fact, we’re supposed to forget about Islamic law. Given the administration’s new lexicon that quashes most official references to Islam, we’re supposed to forget about Islam, too.
- Diana West

]]> By: WastelandMan http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136523 WastelandMan Tue, 20 May 2008 05:38:39 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136523 Great G*d inna Bottle! Can we get the flouride out and put some fricking testosterone in the water? HOLY CRAP! Just suck it up its a fricking BOOK! Mr. VP Just think back a few years and tell me what you were doing BEFORE we came in and took Sadam out? Maybe ya oughta go back and do that for a living again. -Wasteland Man. Great G*d inna Bottle!
Can we get the flouride out and put some fricking testosterone in the water? HOLY CRAP!
Just suck it up its a fricking BOOK!
Mr. VP Just think back a few years and tell me what you were doing BEFORE we came in and took Sadam out?
Maybe ya oughta go back and do that for a living again.

-Wasteland Man.

]]> By: MB4 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136522 MB4 Tue, 20 May 2008 05:34:26 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136522 <strike>[Taylor ties up Dr. Zaius] Dr. Zira: Taylor! Don't treat him that way! George Taylor: Why not? Dr. Zira: It's humiliating! George Taylor: The way you humiliated me? All of you? YOU led me around on a LEASH! Cornelius: That was different. We thought you were inferior. George Taylor: Now you know better. </strike> [Major General Jeffrey Hammond ties up Radhwaniya tribal leaders and pours pig fat over them] Maliki: Major General Jeffrey Hammond! Don't treat them that way! Major General Jeffrey Hammond: Why not? Maliki: It's humiliating! Major General Jeffrey Hammond: The way they humiliated me? All of them? THEY made us kiss their God damned filthy book! Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi: That was different. We thought you were week. Major General Jeffrey Hammond: Now you know better. [Taylor ties up Dr. Zaius]
Dr. Zira: Taylor! Don’t treat him that way!
George Taylor: Why not?
Dr. Zira: It’s humiliating!
George Taylor: The way you humiliated me? All of you? YOU led me around on a LEASH!
Cornelius: That was different. We thought you were inferior.
George Taylor: Now you know better.

[Major General Jeffrey Hammond ties up Radhwaniya tribal leaders and pours pig fat over them]
Maliki: Major General Jeffrey Hammond! Don’t treat them that way!
Major General Jeffrey Hammond: Why not?
Maliki: It’s humiliating!
Major General Jeffrey Hammond: The way they humiliated me? All of them? THEY made us kiss their God damned filthy book!
Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi: That was different. We thought you were week.
Major General Jeffrey Hammond: Now you know better.

]]> By: profitsbeard http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136514 profitsbeard Tue, 20 May 2008 05:16:28 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136514 MB4- LOL! "<em>Take your stinking paws off me you damned, dirty 52 year old 'prophet'</em>!" (Aiyesha, from "<strong>Planet of the Jackanapes</strong>") MB4-

LOL!

“Take your stinking paws off me you damned, dirty 52 year old ‘prophet’!”

(Aiyesha, from “Planet of the Jackanapes“)

]]> By: Johan Klaus http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136506 Johan Klaus Tue, 20 May 2008 05:10:18 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136506 <blockquote>Again, there is no such thing as moderate Islam. Mormon Doc on May 19, 2008 at 11:16 PM</blockquote> my grandson sent me a video from Afganistan, of a moderate mmuslim. It was of a flying taliban turbine after a U.S. marine sniper shot of about one mile.

Again, there is no such thing as moderate Islam.

Mormon Doc on May 19, 2008 at 11:16 PM

my grandson sent me a video from Afganistan, of a moderate mmuslim. It was of a flying taliban turbine after a U.S. marine sniper shot of about one mile.

]]> By: MB4 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136504 MB4 Tue, 20 May 2008 05:08:48 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136504 <blockquote>It’s an asylum. Named Koranium. profitsbeard on May 20, 2008 at 1:00 AM</blockquote> It's a mad house!!! - Charlton Heston (Planet of the Apes)

It’s an asylum.

Named Koranium.

profitsbeard on May 20, 2008 at 1:00 AM

It’s a mad house!!!
- Charlton Heston (Planet of the Apes)

]]> By: profitsbeard http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136493 profitsbeard Tue, 20 May 2008 05:00:04 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136493 The soldier who supposedly aroused the irrational natives by blowing holes in their noxious playbook of global domination and absolute intolerance should be reassigned elsewhere, since he doesn't appreciate how to deal with the mentally unstable. You must treat them like hair-trigger hysterical imbeciles. Not rile them up by taking away their teddy bears or security blankets. Humor them, because they can be dangerous when panicked. And slowly get the straitjacket of respect for Human Rights around them. Smile and nod and herd them carefully where you are trying to get them to go. No sudden moves. It's an asylum. Named <em>Koranium</em>. The soldier who supposedly aroused the irrational natives by blowing holes in their noxious playbook of global domination and absolute intolerance should be reassigned elsewhere, since he doesn’t appreciate how to deal with the mentally unstable.

You must treat them like hair-trigger hysterical imbeciles.

Not rile them up by taking away their teddy bears or security blankets.

Humor them, because they can be dangerous when panicked.

And slowly get the straitjacket of respect for Human Rights around them.

Smile and nod and herd them carefully where you are trying to get them to go.

No sudden moves.

It’s an asylum.

Named Koranium.

]]> By: Limerick http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136490 Limerick Tue, 20 May 2008 04:58:48 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136490 Aid and comfort......jail. Inflamming public opinion, not much you could do, other then scorn them. We start getting into the free press issue with that one. Aid and comfort……jail. Inflamming public opinion, not much you could do, other then scorn them. We start getting into the free press issue with that one.

]]> By: apollyonbob http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136488 apollyonbob Tue, 20 May 2008 04:58:13 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136488 <blockquote>Limerick on May 20, 2008 at 12:54 AM</blockquote> That's okay, it happens XD I think whatever the soldier already got (probably a nasty letter in his file and shipped out of theater) was sufficient, personally - and the general/colonel's apology was more than sufficient. I notice they didn't get the President, or PM al-Maliki, or (even more importantly) any chief Islamic Clerics to come out and say something. I think Reuters is just stirring the pot

Limerick on May 20, 2008 at 12:54 AM

That’s okay, it happens XD

I think whatever the soldier already got (probably a nasty letter in his file and shipped out of theater) was sufficient, personally – and the general/colonel’s apology was more than sufficient.

I notice they didn’t get the President, or PM al-Maliki, or (even more importantly) any chief Islamic Clerics to come out and say something. I think Reuters is just stirring the pot

]]> By: Limerick http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136480 Limerick Tue, 20 May 2008 04:54:52 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136480 GRRRRRRRRRR....read the post before responding Limerick! Sorry apollyonbob....poorly organized grey matter here. GRRRRRRRRRR….read the post before responding Limerick!

Sorry apollyonbob….poorly organized grey matter here.

]]> By: Limerick http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136478 Limerick Tue, 20 May 2008 04:52:04 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136478 <blockquote>apollyonbob on May 20, 2008 at 12:48 AM</blockquote> Whatever the violation calls for (see major john's post). Not my place to say. The military has a standing order regarding the conduct of the soldier in the theater. The military has determined that the soldier violated that standing order. End of story. This Iraqi's mouthing off is just red meat. I don't like it one tiny little bit but it has nothing to do with the punishment of the bonehead.

apollyonbob on May 20, 2008 at 12:48 AM

Whatever the violation calls for (see major john’s post).
Not my place to say. The military has a standing order regarding the conduct of the soldier in the theater. The military has determined that the soldier violated that standing order. End of story. This Iraqi’s mouthing off is just red meat. I don’t like it one tiny little bit but it has nothing to do with the punishment of the bonehead.

]]> By: apollyonbob http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136471 apollyonbob Tue, 20 May 2008 04:48:00 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136471 <blockquote>The Weekly Standard’s take on this Reuters reporter….. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/164jnzjb.asp Limerick on May 20, 2008 at 12:13 AM </blockquote> So, I have a question for those who think the soldier should be punished - if Reuters is manufacturing outrage, and inflaming the populace, and distributing enemy propaganda to give aid and comfort to the enemy, what should <em>their</em> punishment be?

The Weekly Standard’s take on this Reuters reporter…..

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/164jnzjb.asp

Limerick on May 20, 2008 at 12:13 AM

So, I have a question for those who think the soldier should be punished – if Reuters is manufacturing outrage, and inflaming the populace, and distributing enemy propaganda to give aid and comfort to the enemy, what should their punishment be?

]]> By: Kini http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136457 Kini Tue, 20 May 2008 04:36:56 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136457 Jeeze Louise, what more do you want? A general already kiss your toilet paper hating ass. Go back to loving your camel and beating your wives. Jeeze Louise, what more do you want?

A general already kiss your toilet paper hating ass.
Go back to loving your camel and beating your wives.

]]> By: canopfor http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136456 canopfor Tue, 20 May 2008 04:36:35 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136456 I didn't notice... Southerngent on May 20,2008 at 12:32PM, Southerngent: Its covered in chocolate,me has no idea whose bacon it is,but I shamelessly had a golden opportiunity to plug the "Canadian Bacon"! He HE :) :). I didn’t notice…
Southerngent on May 20,2008 at 12:32PM,

Southerngent: Its covered in chocolate,me has no idea
whose bacon it is,but I shamelessly had
a golden opportiunity to plug the
“Canadian Bacon”! He HE :) :).

]]> By: major john http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/comment-page-1/#comment-1136452 major john Tue, 20 May 2008 04:35:50 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/19/quote-of-the-day-270/#comment-1136452 Er...the MNF-I ROE and CENTCOM Gneral Order 1 already cover this. So, I don't think you'll get any more paperwork from us, Mr. Hashemi. Thanks for asking, tho'. Er…the MNF-I ROE and CENTCOM Gneral Order 1 already cover this. So, I don’t think you’ll get any more paperwork from us, Mr. Hashemi. Thanks for asking, tho’.

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