Harkin: Fear the military
posted at 10:15 am on May 17, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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According to Tom Harkin, a man who served his country for decades in the military and follows a family tradition of service must be feared rather than respected. Harkin told reporters that John McCain’s family history of service makes him too “militaristic” to be President, unlike those who got drafted against their will to serve the nation. Unfortunately, neither describes Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton:
Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s family background as the son and grandson of admirals has given him a worldview shaped by the military, “and he has a hard time thinking beyond that,” Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Ia., said Friday.
“I think he’s trapped in that,” Harkin said in a conference call with Iowa reporters. “Everything is looked at from his life experiences, from always having been in the military, and I think that can be pretty dangerous.”
Harkin said that “it’s one thing to have been drafted and served, but another thing when you come from generations of military people and that’s just how you’re steeped, how you’ve learned, how you’ve grown up.”
A McCain spokesman said Harkin’s remarks were offensive and showed that Democrats are out of touch with Americans’ values.
“Senator Harkin’s comments are an affront to the many thousands of Iowans who have served our country so valiantly for generations,” said spokesman Jeff Sadosky. “This sort of attack shows just how out of touch Democratic leadership has become with the values that have made our country so great.”
So let’s get this straight. Anyone who serves in the military is at least a little suspect, but those who volunteer should be considered warmongers, especially if they follow their father and grandfather into the service of their country. It’s one thing to have been drafted — that excuses someone from their association with the military — but to have actually volunteered? Quelle horror!
This comes, of course, from the same party whose Senate Intelligence chair suggested that military pilots have little human feeling. It precedes an effort by the New York Times tomorrow, along with some of McCain’s oh-so-courageous unnamed Senate colleagues, to suggest that McCain didn’t really experience Vietnam because his five-plus years as a POW kept him from learning all of the lessons John Kerry experienced in his three months in a Swift Boat. This also comes from the same party that celebrated Kerry’s military experience while denigrating George Bush’s National Guard service. According to Harkin today, Bush would be a better candidate — right?
If the Democrats want to party like it’s 1968, that’s their choice. The rest of America grew up. People stopped drinking the New Left Kool-aid a long time ago and quit treating veterans like baby-killers and Dr. Strangelove. Tom Harkin, Jay Rockefeller, the New York Times, and a good portion of the Left apparently never stopped.
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What a knob.
Patrick S on May 17, 2008 at 10:23 AM
I am a veteran (who volunteered for service in the U.S. Navy) AND I VOTE…. but not for these idiots who insult me.
Yakko77 on May 17, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Harkin is a fool. If one must fear something . . . fear Harkin and his idiocy.
rplat on May 17, 2008 at 10:25 AM
we called it tradition in my family…
trailortrash on May 17, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Remeber, never say anything about Obama’s “life experiences”, family traditions or chosen associates, because that would be wrong.
forest on May 17, 2008 at 10:27 AM
We can expect more of the same during the election. Here’s hoping the Dim’s will continue to piss off people in the service and the elderly. Guess Harkin has forgotten that it’s an all-volunteer military now. It will be sweet when the effite intellectuals get it crammed up their kazoo’s in November.
GarandFan on May 17, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Harkin just obligingly placed his head upon the guillotine. Let’s hope Iowans remember this when his seat comes up for grabs.
In the meantime, McCain’s people will have a field day with this.
joewm315 on May 17, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Hope you’re right about that, but not at all certain.
This Marxist claptrap keeps rearing its ugly head in one form or another. About the time you think it’s finally dead, a clone of it pops up somewhere. Its appeal to the baser element of our humanity seems almost timeless.
petefrt on May 17, 2008 at 10:30 AM
I don`t think this will matter much. The Obama wave is so high, no one will hold this against him.
ThePrez on May 17, 2008 at 10:32 AM
It’s just one more example of how liberals don’t even pay attention to themselves. Liberals have a very short memory when it comes to what they say on any given day. Probably because they don’t actually believe in anything with any conviction except when it comes to what they oppose.
Liberals don’t see any hypocrisy or contradictions in what they think about anything because what they think, and how they react, has almost nothing to do with their own core principles. They’re too busy opposing what conservatives say, and too busy agreeing with what any liberal says, to take the time to listen to what is being said.
Jaynie59 on May 17, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Now that I think of it, isn’t this the dolt that claimed combat experience in Vietnam when in fact he was doing nothing but ferrying airplanes to and from safe zones? I truly believe that many of these truth impaired Democrats exist in some parallel universe.
rplat on May 17, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Go back and check Harkin’s background. At one time he was perfectly content to use his VN military pilot creds as a campaign tool, and was very willing to let folks think he was in combat. Turns out he wasn’t and finally had to admit he just ferried damaged aircraft back to Japan for repair.
a capella on May 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Isn’t this the same guy that for years made mention of his service in the Air Force and frequently mentioning that he flew many combat missions over Vietnam? Yeah, it’s same one and he was busted for lying about it. He was just ferry pilot flying aircraft to from Japan and the Philippines for repair. What a joke.
martinrrrr on May 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM
What an absolute idiot! The people who should be feared are dumb asses like this. I thank God for men and women like McCain who see service in the military as an honorable thing…. Oh yeah, that’s right. Sorry, I forgot that honor is a concept that too many libs can’t understand. The same with the concept of American exceptionalism. That one confuses them too.
thekingtut on May 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Harkin has long been an embarrassment to Iowans.
He’s not very bright, he’s a loud mouth, and he’s a confirmed liar.
DelD on May 17, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Let’s see, I guess this means General George Washington was not fit to be the father of his country, right?
And then there is Andrew Jackson, wasn’t he a Democrat? And Captain Harry Truman.
John Kennedy was not on that PT boat because someone knocked him in the head and dragged him off to the navy.
Really, this is so lame.
Terrye on May 17, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Harkin would be funny if he weren’t so pathetic. He’s a veteran himself, but I guess he must have been drafted. He also lied about his service, and has been publicly humiliated by other veterans for it.
He’s a hard leftist, disguised as an Iowa Democrat.
Jaibones on May 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM
I noticed that Harkin was kind enough to stress “I just want to be very clear there’s nothing wrong with a career in the military” and that he has friends who are generals and admirals who have served the country well.”
Doesn’t that sound like “Some of my best friends are black/Jews/etc”? Retired military, the minority group you can look down on with impunity.
What an ass
E9RET on May 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM
I think Harkin switched to ethanol.
mred on May 17, 2008 at 10:47 AM
The lack of self-awareness on the left is simply amazing.
Richard Romano on May 17, 2008 at 10:48 AM
New ad: Democrats hate military families.
Voice-over narration: If you were raised by a mom or dad who volunteered to serve in the military, the Democrat Party says you’re unfit to be president of the United States. In fact, Democrats say we should be afraid of you. You are a dangerous person.
Rational Thought on May 17, 2008 at 10:49 AM
I used to live in Iowa and have met with Harkin. He is not a fool. He is also not a mamby pamby nancy-boy like the republicans. He is a mean and nasty s.o.b who takes no prisoners. Remember the scene in Butch Cassidy, how Paul Newman explains the rules of a knife fight? That’s Harkin.
billypaintbrush on May 17, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Tulsa Beacon sc
Sensible immigration laws
House Bill 1804 is working. — Hundreds of illegal aliens have left Oklahoma and gone to other states or back to their country of origin. — That’s what should have happened. It’s a shame that state legislators have to pass laws that mirror federal laws because the Bush Administration won’t enforce our national boundaries…
DfDeportation on May 17, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Democrats manufacture outrage and are afforded wall to wall MSM coverage over Bush non-comment in Israel, crickets chirping when Harkin insults Americas true patriots.
Activist journalism in action!
dmann on May 17, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Um, wait, if you haven’t served then you’re a chickenhawk. But if you have served then you’re a vicious baby killer (remember that good old chestnut from the ’60s).
And yes, Harkin, Dwight Eisenhower was such an evil president.
rbj on May 17, 2008 at 10:58 AM
As others have asked, why would this douchebag even comment about military affairs? He is a living reminder of how stupid Iowans can be.
Jaibones on May 17, 2008 at 10:58 AM
You don’t hear a lot about it, but it’s working everywhere it’s being implemented. The illegals get the message very quickly and move on. This is a very encouraging thing I see happening at the grass roots local governance level. It’s working here in the DFW area and I’d like to see a whole lot more cities implement these policies.
techno_barbarian on May 17, 2008 at 11:00 AM
McCain has spent much more of his life out of active military service than in it. In fact, the life experience that has most shaped McCain’s views has probably been his decades in the U.S. Senate. As Harkin proves by his idiotic and ignorant comments, that particular life experience seems to warp a person’s thinking in ways that can be very dangerous!
AZCoyote on May 17, 2008 at 11:06 AM
This attitude, of course, would disqualify anyone serving in the military since the 70’s, when we went to an all-volunteer force. What a tool!
BTW, I don’t know that he served for “decades” as you state, but the article does mention that he is a Vietnam era veteran who never saw combat. Maybe he should be restricted from voting on war-related bills?
Longhorn Six on May 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM
And that is conservatives. You have to remember that everything is fluid and ever changing so back in 04 military service was very important. So important that the National Guard just wasn’t good enough to qualify but it’s now 08 and a new world in which any voluntary military service is a problem. An even better example is back in 92 when draft dodging was even more important as a qualification for the presidency and in 2000 when I don’t think it mattered one way or the other. That’s what being progressive all is about. Adapting to the ever changing world in which we are living. Conservatives can’t handle change at all but for the average liberal it’s just basic instink.
jmarcure on May 17, 2008 at 11:17 AM
As an Iowan, I want to apologize to everyone for Harkin. I would never vote for him but obviously some did. He is a party line fool. He takes his orders from the Pelosi/Reid/Dean group of fools. That says it all.
Jimmybob on May 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM
National leaders throughout history have always been in the military. It has always been an honor until Vietnam and all that BS. Why do you think Prince Harry enlisted? Certainly not because he needs the scholarship money. Could it be that the Royal Family thinks military service is actually good experience for someone who could be COMMANDER IN CHIEF of ALL THE ARMED FORCES. Harkin, what a moron.
mrsmwp on May 17, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Plain pure and simple….frakking insulting nonsense.
Most know my son is in Mosul. In his pocket is a plastic bag, inside that plastic bag is a 5″x10″ 48 star American flag. I presented it to him before he left for the invasion of Iraq. My dad presented it to me, his dad to him. It is dirty, and faded, and a bit worse for wear, for several good reasons…..
Belleau Wood
Makin
Guadalcanal
Bougainville
Iwo Jima
Vietnam
Panama
Baghdad
Tal Afar
and now Mosul
Screw you Mr. Harkin. Take your facist nightmares and choke on them.
Limerick on May 17, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Let’s disband the military and see how fast Harkin gets out of the country. Anyone who doe’s not appreciate what our Armed Forces doe’s for this country is a true ass!
tazmebro on May 17, 2008 at 11:46 AM
From: Wall Street Journal; August 19, 2004
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110005496
RBMN on May 17, 2008 at 11:48 AM
Now work in the line about how Bush should have sent his adult daughters to serve in Iraq.
Head exploding yet?
MamaAJ on May 17, 2008 at 11:50 AM
I wonder if he means life experiences like sitting in a pew listening to a racist demagogue for 20 years, marrying another one, hanging with proud, unrepentant terrorists and real estate swindlers?
Naaah…
hindmost on May 17, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Seriously, can somebody make a flow chart of all of these claims?
If you served, it’s good if you were on the ground and saw how things really were, like Kerry and Cleland, but bad if you were McCain and were just a pilot and didn’t see much until he was captured and saw too much of how things were. If you were in the Nat’l Guard, that was bad, but being a Rhodes Scholar and not serving was good, but just going to college was bad, if your name is Cheney. Oh, and Gore, who went to Vietnam, but not to fight, was…
My head hurts and it’s too early to start drinking, so I have to stop.
MamaAJ on May 17, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Total fucking outrage at these tools. Please somebody get this bastard on all the Sunday news shows to talk about these views.
I’ve missed seeing the VFW guys in their caps having a good march.
funky chicken on May 17, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Tom Harkin is yet another reason why there should be term limitation in The Senate.
pilamaye on May 17, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Remember Harkin is the one who lied about his military resume….he’s probably just jealous of somebody who, you know, actually did achieve something during his military service.
POS
funky chicken on May 17, 2008 at 12:18 PM
I fear Iowegians who vote for Harkin. No offense to Iowans who don’t vote for Harkin.
gmbdds on May 17, 2008 at 12:20 PM
It’s obvious that Harkin has a vendetta against the military.
Most probably because they found him incompetent to fly combat missions, hence his ‘job’ doing plane-ferrying duty, which was done by women during WWII. Oh! The humiliation of it all.
pocomoco on May 17, 2008 at 12:32 PM
Tool
Hog Wild on May 17, 2008 at 12:38 PM
So can Harkin explain John Murtha?
or is that the unexplainable..
DaveC on May 17, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Harkin lives up to the acronyn,
I diot
O ut
W ondering
A round
Yakko77 on May 17, 2008 at 12:40 PM
What would this guy, or any other who hates the military, do if everyone service member put down our weapons and went home? Without a military, what would they propose we do for national defense? There’s a good book out there for you: AWOL: the Unexcused Absence of America’s Upper Class from Military Service. It may help explain how an entire segment of society has no understanding nor appreciation for the military and what it does.
This is another classic case of liberals not considering the 2nd and 3rd order effects of their thinking. It also shows that the majority of liberal followers neither read nor consider anything beyond the political commercials or sound bites put out by people like Clinton, Carter, LBJ, or Obama and his Afghanistan anecdotes.
Send_Me on May 17, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Harkin is just another word for MANURE.
Here’s a passage from his wiki entry
“While running for his Senate seat in 1984, and again while running for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1992, Harkin has faced criticism for claiming that he had flown combat missions over North Vietnam. In a 1979 round table discussion with other Congressional Veterans, Harkin said of his service as a Navy pilot: “One year was in Vietnam. I was flying F-4s and F-8s on combat air patrols and photo-reconnaissance support missions”. These comments were later published in a 1981 book by David Broder. After subsequent inquiries by Barry Goldwater and The Wall Street Journal, Harkin clarified that that he had been stationed in Japan and sometimes flew recently repaired aircraft on test missions over Vietnam. His service flying F-4s and F-8s was later, while he was stationed in Cuba”
Del Dolemonte on May 17, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Sorry, Mr. M, much of the rest of America grew up. There are still tons of Code Pinkos, Raging Grannies, academics, and other assorted kumbayaists. If this weren’t true, Mr. Vacuous would be an amusing distraction, not someone who has a real chance to become President.
eeyore on May 17, 2008 at 12:54 PM
What would this guy do if everyone service member put down our weapons and went home? Without a military, or 2nd Amendment for that matter, what would he propose for national defense? Here’s a good book for you: AWOL: the Unexcused Absence of America’s Upper Class from Military Service. It may help explain how an entire segment of society has no understanding nor appreciation for the military and what it does.
This is a classic case of liberals not considering the 2nd and 3rd order effects of their thinking. It also shows that the majority of liberal followers neither read nor consider anything beyond the commercials or sound bites put out by people like Clinton, Carter, LBJ, or Obama and his Afghanistan anecdotes.
Send_Me on May 17, 2008 at 12:54 PM
What will these idiots do if Obama picks Webb or Clark for his running mate? Will all this Dem disdain for the military suddenly get disappeared?
juliesa on May 17, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Going to make it personal I guess. Lets see how many groups the Dems can piss off here before the election. Problem is they are getting the ones who take action when they are challenged.
TroubledMonkey on May 17, 2008 at 1:11 PM
Exactly. The last few generations have been a bunch of lazy wimps. Everyone wants a college degree and a paper pushing job. It’s sad that real work like the military and blue collar jobs are looked down upon. I guess the Dems think only idiots desperate for benefits go into the military and only illegals want to do the real work that REAL MEN (and women) have done in this country for generations.
mrsmwp on May 17, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Tom Harkin(D) is a ‘phony soldier’ who lied about his service in Vietnam, supported the Sandinistas in Nicaragua, yet calls President Bush… a liar.
DANEgerus on May 17, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Yes. I seem to remember reading about him going down to party with Danny Ortega and the ‘nistas when the libs fooled themselves into believing the polls before the Nicarauguan election. See Mona Charen’s Useful Idiots.
whitetop on May 17, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Obamania liberals are deliriously showing their true colors.
T J Green on May 17, 2008 at 1:31 PM
So tell me again who engages in the politics of fear ?
William Amos on May 17, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Gawd…thanks for summing it up, now I need a drink. Also it just occurred to me I am dating a retired military guy whose father is a retired military guy…all of a sudden I am afraid…very afraid….
HawaiiLwyr on May 17, 2008 at 1:40 PM
First Dick Durbin says I am not much removed from Nazis or Pol Pots boys or somesuch, John Kerry says I are tooo stoopid 2 get a reel jawb, then this guy weighs in saying I have a dangerous worldview?
WTF, over?
I thought I just wanted to see our enemies defeated, our citizens and allies protected, and then come home to finish out a peaceful life with my wife and kids, minding my own business.
major john on May 17, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Sorry for the typo. Replace “everyone” with “every.”
I was distracted in my attempt to comprehend a U.S. Senator, or the people who put him and keep him in office, with such childish views as this.
Send_Me on May 17, 2008 at 2:03 PM
LOL.
Jaibones on May 17, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Keep talking, Tom – your comments are like teredo worms eating at the hull of the USS Obama.
Think_b4_speaking on May 17, 2008 at 2:10 PM
The Democrat Part seems to be filled to the brim with anti-American Treason. Can anyone tell me the name of a Republican Treason-monger?
Sadly, even Heinlein’s Federal Service concept would let the likes of Kerry, Murtha, Harkin, Kerrey, McCain, Cunningham and others of their Ilk. However, it would exclude Comrades H.R. Clinton, W.J. Clinton and B.H. Obama!
SeniorD on May 17, 2008 at 2:19 PM
Hawaiilwr,
“thanks for summing it up, now I need a drink. Also it just occurred to me I am dating a retired military guy whose father is a retired military guy”
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
exhelodrvr on May 17, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Yes
Wade on May 17, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Tom Harkin; proof that people who have had lobotomies should not seek elected office.
thekingtut on May 17, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Harkin you are a MAGGOT! You are lower than whale shit at the bottom of the ocean.
Harkin your a 10 percenter. You know what a 10 percenter is you foolish maggot. No, just look in the mirror.
winemkr on May 17, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Harkin bragged about his service in Nam before he remembered that he had never served in Nam. He is like Kerry who put himslf in for 3 Purple Hearts in less than 90 days without spilling a drop of blood because because 3 Purple Hearts got his lilly white ass out of Nam. Dims can’t tell the truth even when there is no reason to lie.
volsense on May 17, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Terrye on May 17, 2008 at 10:41 AM
rbj got Eisenhower in there.
Eerily, the same mental disorder Harkin expresses in American politics may cross reference itself in China if superstition blames their involvement with the Olympics for causing their suffering now, be it from natural disaster or public dismay over Tibet.
Irrationality and destruction intertwine perversely.
maverick muse on May 17, 2008 at 3:08 PM
As an Iowan, Tom Harkin is an unrelenting embarrassment.
beatcanvas on May 17, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Someone please photoshop “the moderate”
RINOSTRICH
maverick muse on May 17, 2008 at 4:03 PM
It’s just like liberals and everything else in America.
America is full of racists. Except them.
America is full of selfish people. Except them.
America is full of ignorant dupes. Except them.
America is full of polluters. Except them.
The military is full of baby-killers and veterans are unstable. Except them.
It’s just breathtakingly childish.
misterpeasea on May 17, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Harkin only makes the Kool Aid. Iowa Voters drink it every 6 years!
old trooper on May 17, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Harkin was the putz hopping up and down like an excited Chiwawa in the background during Howard Dean’s “I have a scream” speech.
RobCon on May 17, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Gee, he did not say anything like that 4 or 8 years ago when veterans Gore and Kerry were running.
Wonder why
RobCon on May 17, 2008 at 6:06 PM
Sadly, I think you are completely wrong. I believe the left desperately wishes they could publically spit on our soldiers.
Rode Werk on May 17, 2008 at 6:27 PM
What does it say about the electorate of the state of Iowa to elect people of this caliber to represent them? His lies about his combat experience in Nam was as delusional as Hilllary’s Bosnia sniper fire. When your party leadership lies to be something their not, why elect them to continue the charade. It exposes the level of mentality of the people who vote for them
volsense on May 17, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Harkin is another Democrat who should have been hung from the tallest tree for providing aid and comfort to the enemy a very long time ago:
And -
Buy Danish on May 17, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Unfortunately what this cretin says does resonate with many people though.
When I got out of the Navy and went looking for work on Wall Street in the mid 90s i can still count the times I had head hunters and recruiters count the fact that I had served in the military against me.
I was dumbfounded. I volunteered to serve my country and these sniveling cowardly people told me I was unqualified to push a paper around in their office because i had “wasted my time” in the military.
Actually I had more pedigree than any of them but they could not grasp the fact that although I had graduated from one of the top schools in the country I had been stupid enough to volunteer to serve in the nation’s armed forces.
Eventually I succeeded in working on Wall Street but only because I found folks who did not hold my military service against me.
Harkin and his party as well as those affiliated with them are all pricks. they will destroy this country.
elduende on May 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM
One of your best quotes in like EVER!
SouthernGent on May 17, 2008 at 7:19 PM
The difference between Tom Harkin and John McCain is that Tom Harkin didn’t crack under pressure and provide enemies of the US with aid and comfort.
jim m on May 17, 2008 at 7:45 PM
So why does Iowa keep putting him in office, time after time after time? Is Iowa politics really that crooked? I cant believe the people of Iowa dont know what they have in that idiot. What does that say about the people of Iowa? Do they agree with Harkin? After all, they keep sending him to the Senate. It’s time for term limits, now.
abcurtis on May 17, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Yeah, wouldn’t want military man like George Washington, Andrew Jackson, William Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Ulysses Grant, Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, and George H Bush actually running the country. Now would you?
ajackson on May 17, 2008 at 7:55 PM
What a stupid thing to say. Typical.
BTW does it bother anybody else Pelosi the hag is in Iraq?
Domino on May 17, 2008 at 8:21 PM
What a solid load of crap. Baseless comment.
JonRoss on May 17, 2008 at 8:22 PM
My son spent a total of 14 months in two deployments with the USMC in Iraq. It was people like Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry, and Clinton(s), among others, that made his deployments necessary. There is going to be a special place in hades for people like them.
JonRoss on May 17, 2008 at 8:32 PM
He’s been like this forever. As I recall, he was the Sandinistas’ biggest cheerleader in the Senate in the 80’s. What’s a matter with Iowa? I thought this was a Red State. Do Iowans really beleive in this stuff along with him, or is he so good at bringing in the farm subsidies that it buys him a lot of leeway?
Nosferightu on May 17, 2008 at 8:35 PM
Internet warrior expertise
baldilocks on May 17, 2008 at 8:48 PM
George Washington – warmonger. Dwight Eisenhower – warmonger. Ulysses S. Grant – warmonger. Andrew Jackson – warmonger. Theodore Roosevelt – warmonger.
hadsil on May 17, 2008 at 8:51 PM
jim m,
“The difference between Tom Harkin and John McCain is that Tom Harkin didn’t crack under pressure and provide enemies of the US with aid and comfort”
Au contraire. That is exactly what he has been doing in the Senate.
exhelodrvr on May 17, 2008 at 8:59 PM
I had to reread this sentence…I read it first to say that Tom Harkin had served his country and I knew that was wrong.
HitNRun on May 17, 2008 at 9:16 PM
I dug up all the past Presidents who have served. The list is here.
JeffC_95 on May 17, 2008 at 9:29 PM
SouthernGent on May 17, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Ironically, while partying in retro-68 they go by the name “progressive” with the website moveon.org too.
That brings us back to focus on the Romantics whose inspiration was from the ancient past, even if based upon speculative interpretations of that past. In that dream state, they revolted for the upheaval of their present to deregulate social class structure, simultaneously longing for the past and reaching into the future. Anyone who’s tried to be in several places at once knows of failure. No wonder they stick with the “good intentions” and never hold themselves responsible for their actions. [High gas prices are THEIR fault for imposing ALL of the green crap, no new refineries, no more drilling, no more food for the starving masses in order to make ethynol.] Now, they deem themselves the only humane humans, the new elitists, ready to reap the world with their party. All the rest of us are chaffe.
maverick muse on May 17, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Thanks God George Washington was never president.
Or Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Warmongers.
profitsbeard on May 17, 2008 at 10:13 PM
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