Video shows Jamie Rubin lied Update: Lou Dobbs nails Rubin

posted at 7:40 pm on May 16, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Earlier today, I wrote about Jamie Rubin’s intellectually dishonest op-ed in today’s Washington Post, which focused on a snippet from his January 2006 interview with John McCain. In it, Rubin claimed that McCain supported engagement with Hamas without preconditions. However, as the full exchange with Rubin shows in this video provided by the McCain campaign, Rubin intentionally misrepresented McCain:

Here’s what Rubin initially included:

Jamie Rubin: “Do you think that American diplomats should be operating the way they have been in the past, in working with the Palestinian government if Hamas is in now charge?”

Sen. John McCain: “They’re the government and sooner or later we‘re going to have to deal with them in one way or another, and I understand why this administration and previous administrations had such antipathy towards Hamas is because of their dedication to violence and the things they not only espouse but practice, so, but it’s a new reality in the Middle East. And I think the lesson is people want security and a decent life and a decent future then they want democracy. Fatah was not giving them that.”

And here’s what Rubin left out:

Rubin: “So should the United States be dealing with that new reality through normal diplomatic contacts to get the job done for the United States?”

Sen. McCain: “I think the United States should take a step back, see what they do when they form their government, see what their policies are, and see the ways that we can engage with them, and if there aren’t any, there may be a hiatus. But I think part of the relationship is going to be dictated by how Hamas acts, not how the United States acts.”

This answer is consistent with everything else McCain said at the time about the election of Hamas to governing status in the Palestinian territories. He told Rubin, CNN, and said in a press release that the election gave Hamas an opportunity to reject violence, renounce the destruction of Israel as a goal, and act like a legitimate political party rather than a terrorist organization. If they did that, then the US would find ways to engage with them. If not, McCain said a hiatus would occur in diplomatic contacts with the PA — which is exactly what happened.

This shows considerable dishonesty on the part of Rubin. The Washington Post should issue a retraction of this column forthwith.

Update: Lou Dobbs — not exactly a McCain booster — slams Rubin tonight (emphases mine):

CNN’S DANA BASH: “You remember these interviews were done shortly after Hamas won the Palestinian elections. Lou, the McCain campaign just in the past couple of hours, found a link to more of Jamie Rubin’s interview from back then. In it, I’ll read you a quote from the rest of or at least more of the interview, In that quote Sen. McCain says, ‘I think part of the relationship will be dictated by how Hamas acts, not how the United States acts.’ Now the McCain campaign, as you can image, says that this is proof that Senator McCain has been consistent all along, and I should tell you that CNN asked Jamie Rubin earlier today for the rest of the interview or at least for a transcript and he said he didn’t have it. He said he only had this particular quote he said that was e-mailed to him.”

CNN’S LOU DOBBS: “Well that seems, certainly to, as you report, to substantiate precisely what Senator McCain is saying.”

BASH: “That’s what the McCain campaign is insisting and that’s why they were, as you can imagine, very eager to send out this e-mail. And I can tell you at the top of the e-mail the subject header said ‘Jamie Rubin Lied.’ Inside the McCain campaign, they are accusing Jamie Rubin of lying tonight. We’re going wait to hear back from Jamie Rubin about that charge. As you can imagine, that’s quite a charge to say somebody lied.”

DOBBS: “It is quite a charge. It is also quite something for someone from another campaign to conflate both the role of journalism and of course political activism. Let me ask you this. If we may, I’d like to provide the viewers of this broadcast a link, as you referred to it, that would give them the entire context of that interview. So if we may, I’d like to put that up on LouDobbs.com for our viewers’ benefits if they’d like to use it.”

BASH: “I’ll get it to you.”

DOBBS: “Great reporting and thank you very much.”

When will the Washington Post issue its retraction?


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Biography
Elizabeth Rubin started her career reviewing theater at the Vineyard Gazette on Martha’s Vineyard, before moving to The Forward as deputy cultural editor. In 1994 she went to Sarajevo for a six-week stint which lasted nearly two years. Her reportage in Harper’s about private armies, diamond wars, and state collapse in Sierra Leone was a National Magazine Award finalist and earned an Overseas Press Club citation for excellence. At The New Yorker, she won the Livingston Award for International Reporting for her story about a Ugandan rebel army of kidnapped children. After 9/11, she covered the U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq for The New Republic and wrote about Russians, Chechens, Saudis, Iraqis, Iranians, and Americans abroad for The New York Times Magazine, where she is a contributing writer. A 2004-2005 Nieman Fellow, she was raised in Larchmont, N.Y. and earned a B.A. at Columbia University and an M.Phil. at Oxford.

Sounds like Elizabeth is not part of the same family unless related somehow.

CommentGuy on May 17, 2008 at 9:48 AM

When will the Washington Post issue its retraction?

Johnny Mathis said it best “The Twelfth of Never”

Wade on May 17, 2008 at 10:09 AM

At the ripe old age of 23 I cried while watching the Republican Convention that gave the nomination to Gerald Ford. On Election Day that November I had my one and only migraine but went to the booth to vote for President Ford. I knew Jimmy Carter was going to win but thought he was such a nice man, what could go wrong in four years. As we all know President Carter was and is a disaster. He is the gift that keeps on giving. I am truly underwhelmed with many of Senator McCain’s views but you really need to think about the long term implications of a Obama presidency. Look at the respect and cache’ that is given former President Carter even though he was a total failure on every level. Given the adulation already accorded to someone who is not even a full term Senator I shudder to think of the long term effects of even one term.

Cindy Munford on May 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM

On Friday morning, CNN was promoting Jamie Rubin breathlessly. CNN did a softball interview with Rubin and it took Rubin about ten seconds to liken Bush and McCain to Richard Nixon. Rubin obviously knew that the snippet of the interview he was showing was negated and or qualified by the McCain remarks that immediately followed it. Yet he chose to mislead the audience. CNN’s anchor woman briefly noted that Rubin was “a foreign policy advisor to Hillary Clinton” but from her tone of voice it was obvious that the CNN anchor woman did not feel that Rubin’s Clinton tie made any difference. After all, liberalism is objective truth for everybody at CNN. What the CNN anchorwoman left out was that Rubin was also Bill Clinton’s State Department Spokesman. Rubin owes his career to the Clintons and he is deadender defender of the Clinton faith. Nor did CNN mention that Jamie Rubin is known as Mr. Christine Amanpour at CNN. His wife is the left wing CNN correspondent who recently yelled and screamed at Shimon Peres. Amanpour did her special “God’s Chosen Warriors” which concentrated on what Amanpour called “Jewish extremists”.

Larraby on May 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM

Thanks Larraby. I had forgotten that Rubin was Bill’s State Department Spokesman who “owes his career to the Clintons”, and that “Jamie Rubin is known as Mr. Christine Amanpour”, the ‘anti’-War Ho. Many of the Clinton handiwipes who I knew so well in the late 90’s have slipped from my memory until someone is good enough to jog my memory. There are so many.

Christine on May 17, 2008 at 11:57 AM

At the ripe old age of 23 I cried while watching the Republican Convention that gave the nomination to Gerald Ford. On Election Day that November I had my one and only migraine but went to the booth to vote for President Ford. I knew Jimmy Carter was going to win but thought he was such a nice man, what could go wrong in four years. As we all know President Carter was and is a disaster. He is the gift that keeps on giving. I am truly underwhelmed with many of Senator McCain’s views but you really need to think about the long term implications of a Obama presidency. Look at the respect and cache’ that is given former President Carter even though he was a total failure on every level. Given the adulation already accorded to someone who is not even a full term Senator I shudder to think of the long term effects of even one term.

Cindy Munford on May 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM

funky chicken on May 17, 2008 at 12:21 PM

It is truly nice that you would play dice with the lives of 300 million Americans for four years under Barack Obama just to make sure the Dhimmicrats are blamed for every single problem under the sun in that administration. It really doesn’t matter to you that over the next 4 yrs, a nuclear device could go off, delivered by Islamic radicals, which could eliminate a couple of million Americans in an instant, because our leader Barry believes in talking with and negotiating with (an activity which means you give something away in exchange for what you want), but not attacking our enemies.

How nice that you believe we have the luxury of not standing up to Evil men where they exist, and in every activity they pursue. Perhaps they truly are the Minutemen Michael Moore suggests? After all, Iraq from 2004 to 2007 is a perfect example of what happens when Good citizens do nothing to oppose the Evil men in their midst. Perhaps because they were intimidated by all the families beheaded, burned, shot, stabbed, tortured, and finally killed horribly, just so the Islamic Nazis could get their way, politically, we should forgive them, like we could forgive the Republicans, for not doing anything to stop the violence and terror taking place in their own lands, and across the world. Whataya say? Let’s just let Evil have its way for 4 yrs. What’s the worst that could happen?

Of course, I think you’re wrong. Just like Barry.

J. D. Pendry – Sergeant Major, USMC, Retired

Keemo on May 17, 2008 at 7:55 AM

Now there’s a Man that’s RIGHT! Thanks for that kernel of Absolute Truth, Sergeant Major. I’m with you. Press on.

Subsunk

Subsunk on May 17, 2008 at 8:45 AM

wow

funky chicken on May 17, 2008 at 12:35 PM

Rubin proves without a doubt that the truth to a liberal is not whether something is true or not, but what they want it to be. Being the epitome of a liar must make Columbia University and the Washington Post very proud that he represents their values.

volsense on May 17, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Uh… the additional portion you added doesn’t change the fact that he said he’d be willing to work with Hamas. Really, if Obama had said something like this about Hamas we wouldn’t hear the end of it. It’d be another “Rookie Mistake”, right?

Typhonsentra on May 18, 2008 at 8:25 AM

The key word is hiatus. When the interview was done, Hamas had just been “elected”, Senator McCain (or anyone else for that matter) had no way of knowing if they would continue acting like terrorists or turn into a governing faction to serve the people that elected them. Everybody could probably make an educated guess but why start out thinking the worst? So now we can see that the destruction of Isreal is more important than the safety and welfare of their people, I am pretty sure that if Senator McCain is President McCain he will not be dealing with Hamas. Or at least not as legitimate government.

Cindy Munford on May 18, 2008 at 9:30 AM

I find it telling that the left raised a great furor over the Rev. Wright’s remarks being taken “out-of-context”. Having read large portions of the reverend’s sermons, they were NOT out-of-context. Reading what was said before and after didn’t alter in any way the meaning of the statements that were quoted. The left was just trying to moderate the damage that would accrue to Obama by those statements.

Those same Wright-supporting lefties need to compare Sen. McCain’s actual statements to Jamie Rubin’s single quote to see a real textbook example of out-of-context.

It’s unfortunate that the vast majority of our voting population is content to remain blissfully unaware of anything that is not fed to them by the MSM. After all, if the NYT, WaPo, MSNBC, CNN, NPR, etc. say it, it must be true, right?

The very life-blood of the “vast, left-wing conspiracy” is the subversion of truth. How many voters will ever know the truth of what McCain actually said?

Garnet92 on May 18, 2008 at 3:08 PM

The lying left succeeds in spreading these lies (through Rubin this time) because the news media is part of their operation. That’s why this country is slowly going down the tubes because a large percentage of our population has been dumbed down to the extent they don’t really know what the truth is. The news media is corrupt and America is losing.

Travis1 on May 18, 2008 at 8:32 PM

I’m voting my conscience:McCain, the least of three evils.

Doug on May 18, 2008 at 11:34 PM

I’m voting my conscience:McCain, the least of three evils. Doug on May 18, 2008 at 11:34 PM

You and the rest of the electorate.

Obama gets the racist, anti-Israel vote and McCain gets the rest.

Mojave Mark on May 19, 2008 at 1:18 AM

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