I honestly do not understand how anyone who claims he or she is a conservative and strong on national defense can refuse to vote for this man

Well, Terrye, you are Terrye, so it’s not a surprise you don’t understand.

I honestly do not understand how anyone who claims he or she is a conservative and strong on national defense can refuse to vote for this man. He so obviously more qualified than the Democrat he is going to be running against.

Terrye on May 17, 2008 at 2:51 PM

I honestly do not understand how anyone who claims he or she is a conservative and strong on national defense can vote for this man. He is so obviously interested in keeping the flood of illegals in the country.

You never have to wait long for the MDSer. These people come out with this stuff time and again, as if we had not heard the first million times or so they said it.

And then they claim they speak for us. all of us. the real America.

MCPO Airdale on May 16, 2008 at 7:37 PM

Ahh there is the MDSer, I was awaiting.

MB4 on May 16, 2008 at 7:10 PM

Sorry to split hairs, here, but your definition of a leftist and mine differ. LBJ was an idiot, and a corrupt politician, and a liberal, but I never thought he was a leftist.

Again, you only have two categories: Defeat and Surrender. Into which of these would you put “Waking up and smelling the coffee?”

Kafir on May 16, 2008 at 10:29 PM

You stated

There are two ways to lose a war: Be defeated militarily or surrender.

Kafir on May 16, 2008 at 7:48 PM

So after all this you still think that the U.S. was defeated militarily or surrendered (To whom if surrendered, the NVA or the VC?)

Amazing.

Did you even read the link to the Army war College?

MB4 on May 16, 2008 at 8:09 PM

Did you even notice that I wasn’t responding to that post? I was responding to your post at 6:46 pm and you replied as though I was responding to your 7:07 post.

Waking up and smelling the coffee.

Again, you only have two categories: Defeat and Surrender. Into which of these would you put “Waking up and smelling the coffee?”

Well McCain did serve in war. He’s got one son who just completed a tour in Iraq and another at the Naval Academy. And on the other side is. . . someone who never served. If The Obamassiah is going to be tough on terror and Iraq and Iran, then wouldn’t he be a chickenhawk? Or if he’s going to be an appeaser, then he’ll be a chickenchicken.

rbj on May 16, 2008 at 9:18 PM

awesome…

This is the McCain I like. The one that goes off talking about comprehensive immigration reform and global warming (Mr. Hyde)…not so much.

Entelechy: You need to trade mark that word”Wussitude”

I,like it,very fitting for this election
period!

Without preconditions????;)
mikeyboss on May 16,2008 at 9:25PM.

mikeyboss: I want to make sure I got it!

Omaba will talk to the thugs,unconditional!

And like you said,Obama will debate McCain
with preconditions!

Yup,that sounds about right!

I’m beginning to think that there won’t be any debates ahead of the general. Both candidates will be fine with that. However, McCain should demand many, anywhere, at any time, undera all circumstances and see wussitude in action.

Entelechy on May 16, 2008 at 6:30 PM

Without preconditions???? ;)

MB4,
You seem to be ignoring that the U.S. pledged to provide support to South Vietnam. Support that never showed up in 1975.

exhelodrvr on May 16, 2008 at 8:29 PM

The matter that came under dispute was what some people, with a very liberal definition of it, call “surrender”. What you are bringing up is a different matter. There was definitely a certain “betrayal” at that time by an anti-war in ascendancy congress in a nation sick and tired of Vietnam by that point. Would it have made any difference in the long run? Probably not, but we will never know for certain.

What would you call it then?

Waking up and smelling the coffee. Did you even read the link to the Army war College?

There are two ways to lose a war: Be defeated militarily or surrender.

Then for the United States, Vietnam was clearly neither.

In which category would you put “walking away before security is established

Security was established and the ARVN had over a million men under arms when the U.S. left.

and sitting in your comfortable living room watching your plasma TV

I never even heard of any plasma TV’s back then and to this day I don’t have one.

as it is showing your former allies being led to killing fields by your former enemies?”

I think that you are confusing Vietnam with Cambodia. John Kerry did that too.

Between the two, I’d call that surrender. Perhaps you have a better name for it.

Kafir on May 16, 2008 at 7:48 PM

You can call it whatever you like. Sit in your armchair and tell it to your plasma TV.

[Obama]’s showing signs of being an undistinguished learner.

More like a do-nothing back-bencher who’s learned to talk a good game, but whose ambitions are way above his oxygen level.

MB4 on May 16, 2008 at 6:46 PM

What would you call it then? There are two ways to lose a war: Be defeated militarily or surrender. In which category would you put “walking away before security is established and sitting in your comfortable living room watching your plasma TV as it is showing your former allies being led to killing fields by your former enemies?” Between the two, I’d call that surrender. Perhaps you have a better name for it.

Obama isnt unintelligent he is simply niiave on foreign policy. He honestly believes that the State Department is what keeps America safe.

William Amos on May 16, 2008 at 6:57 PM

That’s the scariest thing I’ve read in a while.

The only one recurring sour note comes from the realization that if not for the aid and comfort provided to the Al-Qaeda terrorists in Iraq by the America-hating liberals and democrats in this country, our boys job would likely at this point be all but finished, ready to hand things off to the Iraqi army, the Iraqi police and the Iraqi government, and all set to board those ships and planes for their eagerly awaited trip home.

When I think of the needless deaths and suffering our boys have had to endure as a direct result of the machinations of the democrats who want to surrender just as soon as they can, it is very, very difficult for me to contain the intense anger and outrage I feel. In fact, I’m all set to volunteer as an interrogator at Guantanamo – just so long as I’m permitted to take a couple of plane loads of democrats down there with me.

I think we should just trust President Bush and Senator McCain in every decision they make and we should just support that.

After Mav said what the said, he should have followed up with “lets go to the tape.” Then he should have put up the jumbotron a video of Obama saying “yes I would meet without condition with Imajihadwhackjob”, and put up Obama’s website screen shot of him saying and promoting the same thing.

In fact, if I was running the Mav’s press shop, I would have a multimedia capability with me wherever the campaign went. This would aid in the rhetorical slamming-reporter’s-heads-into-turnbuckles concept so vital to the coming campaign. And when the press inevitably go out of their way to cover for Obama, unleash the hounds tape.

That explains the MSM’s lovefest with Obama. “I…drink…your…milkshake! I drink it up!”

McCain the flippity flip flopper suggesting that Obama is worse than he on the war on terror. Funny, funny, funny.

Dave Rywall on May 16, 2008 at 6:09 PM

yeah, community organizers are usually good at defense and military affairs.