It’s on: McCain rips Obama at NRA convention for being “reckless”
posted at 5:57 pm on May 16, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The second half is rhetoric on Iraq, all of which is familiar but worth listening to as a reminder that the caricatures in this debate go both ways. No, not every leftist is an appeaser, but alas my tears of sympathy won’t flow until they stop trying to paint McCain — McCain, of all people, who spent five years in a cage — as a crazed hawk with a rage-on for invasion. The first half is the money bit, responding to the Messiah’s nuanced assertions earlier today about why it’s bad to talk to terrorists but perfectly understandable to talk to arch-terrorists. The takeaway: “[T]he American people have every reason to doubt whether he has the strength, judgment and determination to keep us safe.”
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Feckless is more accurate, but reckless will do nicely.
omnipotent on May 16, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Hillary pretty much an afterthought, now, huh? Poor girl.
lorien1973 on May 16, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Distractingly distracting distractions!
Slublog on May 16, 2008 at 6:04 PM
Anybody have an Obama speeches or sound bites from right after 9/11/2001?
I wonder what he said then.
EJDolbow on May 16, 2008 at 6:04 PM
It was probably “Amen” after Wright’s sermon. Or was one of the days he wasn’t there? I never remember…
Wineaholic on May 16, 2008 at 6:07 PM
and I thought the appeal of Maverick was because he was reckless..
DaveC on May 16, 2008 at 6:07 PM
Nice speech, seems like he will at least show some backbone against BO. I think it is reckless to propose cap and trade, comprehensive immigration reform, not drilling in ANWAR or off our coasts ect….
Les in NC on May 16, 2008 at 6:08 PM
He was still voting “present” as a state legistlator.
lorien1973 on May 16, 2008 at 6:09 PM
McCain the flippity flip flopper suggesting that Obama is worse than he on the war on terror. Funny, funny, funny.
Dave Rywall on May 16, 2008 at 6:09 PM
Well said Senator McCain.
Yakko77 on May 16, 2008 at 6:10 PM
He would be. Surrendering in Iraq, sitting down unconditionally with Iran, and destabilizing Pakistan is better?
amerpundit on May 16, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Allahpundit, I never knew you were such a dirty RACIST, just like McCain.
funky chicken on May 16, 2008 at 6:15 PM
More Poor Girl
mred on May 16, 2008 at 6:20 PM
That Maverick……..he sure is good on the war, by golly!
nottakingsides on May 16, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Anyone else starting to get the Strong Impression that Obama is, errr, less-than-smart as well as less-than-confident when he’s unable to read from a teleprompter?
‘Rookie mistakes’, or the expected actions of an overeducated & priveleged Dimwit?
Janos Hunyadi on May 16, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Well done, John. Thank you (at least for this).
petefrt on May 16, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Obama’s reaction would make a great Broadway show. “Cry-Baby The Musical” Whoops already taken.
cnite on May 16, 2008 at 6:29 PM
I’m beginning to think that there won’t be any debates ahead of the general. Both candidates will be fine with that. However, McCain should demand many, anywhere, at any time, undera all circumstances and see wussitude in action.
Entelechy on May 16, 2008 at 6:30 PM
Geezer vs. appeaser
Prisoner of war vs. prisoner of wife
whitetop on May 16, 2008 at 6:36 PM
Yes, me too. He’s showing signs of being an undistinguished learner. But, if he weren’t smart, how did he get into Harvard (?). John Kerry and Al Gump Gore could be admitted to any Ivy League school on the basis of their parents’ elitist connections, but Bark Obama?
Maybe he’s smart in math, but not in stuff like logic.
petefrt on May 16, 2008 at 6:37 PM
w00t! Good one.
Rhinoboy on May 16, 2008 at 6:41 PM
( this is like shooting big fish in a little barrel )
two words, petefrt: Affirmative Action
Harvard also likes Posh People from Peculiar Places: Half-Kenyan / Half-Hawaiian guys raised in Indonesian madrassas, for example…..
Janos Hunyadi on May 16, 2008 at 6:43 PM
I almost had a little tear when he finally ripped Obama a new one.
Of course, everyone with MDS will ignore this instance of going for the jugular as….
Squid Shark on May 16, 2008 at 6:43 PM
McCain, even though I don’t agree with him on a number of things has impressed me as a candidate. He can pwn Obama in debates, and he gives a decent speech. Obama comes off as uninformed and a majority of the time completely clueless when he’s not on his script. I get the impression the guy knows the media is in the tank for him, so he doesn’t really study the issues very deeply. The debates will be very fun..McCain needs to be very agressive.
therightwinger on May 16, 2008 at 6:44 PM
I think Michelle vs Iran would be a good cage match.
mred on May 16, 2008 at 6:45 PM
No American President is going to “Surrender in Iraq”. Who would American troops even be surrendered to? Would they be interned in AQI or regular Sunni or Shiite POW camps? Did Ronald Reagan “Surrender in Lebanon” or was he just able to see the forest for the trees?
MB4 on May 16, 2008 at 6:46 PM
We didnt surrender in Vietnam, but that was the functional result
Squid Shark on May 16, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Really? Name a leftist who isn’t an appeaser? Or is “leftist” now just a synonym for Democrat?
Jaibones on May 16, 2008 at 6:48 PM
There’s no difference between McCain and Obama. I’m staying home! *eyes glaring*
- The Cat
MirCat on May 16, 2008 at 6:49 PM
fixed
mred on May 16, 2008 at 6:51 PM
mort kondracke is getting more and more annoying this election cycle
jp on May 16, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Alan Colmes was uglier hair
mred on May 16, 2008 at 6:56 PM
Obama isnt unintelligent he is simply niiave on foreign policy. He honestly believes that the State Department is what keeps America safe.
William Amos on May 16, 2008 at 6:57 PM
Yep, if he continues to be this wooden with a teleprompter, then he’ll put himself to sleep. Gee, can we at least nominate somebody with some speaking skills???
Starlink on May 16, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Heh, good one! Even though McCain may be a “geezer” I’ll put up $50 that says the former POW would mop the floor with the appeaser ’cause appeasers won’t defend themselves, they just “talk.”
Liberty or Death on May 16, 2008 at 7:00 PM
IMO, Mort’s one of the few remaining intellectually honest, traditional values Democrats. But I know what you mean. I’ve been feeling that way also. In fact, I’ve been feeling if it were anyone except Mort saying these things, I’d not give it serious consideration.
petefrt on May 16, 2008 at 7:03 PM
No it wasn’t. No one that I knew there thought that we were surrendering when we left. If someone else did then maybe they should have gone and not “surrendered”.
Indochina is devoid of decisive military objectives and the allocation of more than token US armed forces in Indochina would be a serious diversion of limited US capabilities.
- Joint Chiefs of Staff, 26 May 1954
If you want to educate yourself some on the Vietnam war read THIS from the US Army War College Quarterly, Winter 1996-97 which concludes by stating, “The United States could not have prevented the forcible reunification of Vietnam under communist auspices at a morally, materially, and strategically acceptable price.”
Also read H.R. McMaster’s “Dereliction of Duty: Lyndon Johnson, Robert McNamara, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies That Led to Vietnam.” Even Rush Limbaugh recommended it. You can get it at http://www.amazon.com used in good condition for about $4 plus $4 shipping. Such a deal.
BTW, H.R. McMaster is not a LTOL (Loon Telling Outrageous Lies) but rather a scholar and a West Point graduate who earned a Silver Star for battlefield prowess during the 1991 Gulf War
after his armored cavalry troop stumbled across an Iraqi mechanized brigade in the middle of a sandstorm and destroyed it.
MB4 on May 16, 2008 at 7:07 PM
Well LBJ was a “leftist’ and he was not an “appeaser”. He was probably the worst president America has ever had though.
MB4 on May 16, 2008 at 7:10 PM
The difference is only in how many scoops of $hit you get in your milkshake.
MB4 on May 16, 2008 at 7:12 PM
yeah, community organizers are usually good at defense and military affairs.
JiangxiDad on May 16, 2008 at 7:22 PM
“The difference is only in how many scoops of $hit you get in your milkshake.”
That explains the MSM’s lovefest with Obama. “I…drink…your…milkshake! I drink it up!”
sulla on May 16, 2008 at 7:28 PM
See, now heres how the magic of modern political tech could make this a grand slam.
After Mav said what the said, he should have followed up with “lets go to the tape.” Then he should have put up the jumbotron a video of Obama saying “yes I would meet without condition with Imajihadwhackjob”, and put up Obama’s website screen shot of him saying and promoting the same thing.
In fact, if I was running the Mav’s press shop, I would have a multimedia capability with me wherever the campaign went. This would aid in the rhetorical slamming-reporter’s-heads-into-turnbuckles concept so vital to the coming campaign. And when the press inevitably go out of their way to cover for Obama, unleash the
houndstape.Mike D. on May 16, 2008 at 7:28 PM
The war is going extremely well. You’d never know it from the defeatist surrender talk of the cut and run surrender monkey democrats and their fifth-columnist uber left-wing media allies, but the fact is that the Iraq War has been and is a roaring success by every meaningful standard. I often listen to a radio program to which active-duty service personnel frequently call in, and I can tell you that the optimism, confidence and morale that I hear in their voices truly is sky high.
The only one recurring sour note comes from the realization that if not for the aid and comfort provided to the Al-Qaeda terrorists in Iraq by the America-hating liberals and democrats in this country, our boys job would likely at this point be all but finished, ready to hand things off to the Iraqi army, the Iraqi police and the Iraqi government, and all set to board those ships and planes for their eagerly awaited trip home.
When I think of the needless deaths and suffering our boys have had to endure as a direct result of the machinations of the democrats who want to surrender just as soon as they can, it is very, very difficult for me to contain the intense anger and outrage I feel. In fact, I’m all set to volunteer as an interrogator at Guantanamo – just so long as I’m permitted to take a couple of plane loads of democrats down there with me.
I think we should just trust President Bush and Senator McCain in every decision they make and we should just support that.
FeralCat on May 16, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Any word whether MAVERICK intends to treat the 2nd Amendment like he did 1st with McCain/Feingold?
MCPO Airdale on May 16, 2008 at 7:37 PM
That’s the scariest thing I’ve read in a while.
funky chicken on May 16, 2008 at 7:38 PM
What would you call it then? There are two ways to lose a war: Be defeated militarily or surrender. In which category would you put “walking away before security is established and sitting in your comfortable living room watching your plasma TV as it is showing your former allies being led to killing fields by your former enemies?” Between the two, I’d call that surrender. Perhaps you have a better name for it.
Kafir on May 16, 2008 at 7:48 PM
As the war is my number one voting point I thought it was a good speech. If he can keep this kind of energy, and focus, on security then Obama will have a tough haul. Here is hoping he keeps Obama answering his attacks instead of the other way around.
Limerick on May 16, 2008 at 7:52 PM
More like a do-nothing back-bencher who’s learned to talk a good game, but whose ambitions are way above his oxygen level.
NeighborhoodCatLady on May 16, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Waking up and smelling the coffee. Did you even read the link to the Army war College?
Then for the United States, Vietnam was clearly neither.
Security was established and the ARVN had over a million men under arms when the U.S. left.
I never even heard of any plasma TV’s back then and to this day I don’t have one.
I think that you are confusing Vietnam with Cambodia. John Kerry did that too.
You can call it whatever you like. Sit in your armchair and tell it to your plasma TV.
MB4 on May 16, 2008 at 8:09 PM
MB4,
You seem to be ignoring that the U.S. pledged to provide support to South Vietnam. Support that never showed up in 1975.
exhelodrvr on May 16, 2008 at 8:29 PM
The matter that came under dispute was what some people, with a very liberal definition of it, call “surrender”. What you are bringing up is a different matter. There was definitely a certain “betrayal” at that time by an anti-war in ascendancy congress in a nation sick and tired of Vietnam by that point. Would it have made any difference in the long run? Probably not, but we will never know for certain.
MB4 on May 16, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Well McCain did serve in war. He’s got one son who just completed a tour in Iraq and another at the Naval Academy. And on the other side is. . . someone who never served. If The Obamassiah is going to be tough on terror and Iraq and Iran, then wouldn’t he be a chickenhawk? Or if he’s going to be an appeaser, then he’ll be a chickenchicken.
rbj on May 16, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Without preconditions???? ;)
mikeyboss on May 16, 2008 at 9:25 PM
McCain should demand many,anywhere,at any time,undera
all circumstances and see wussitude in action.
Entelechy on May 16,2008 at 6:30PM.
Entelechy: You need to trade mark that word”Wussitude”
I,like it,very fitting for this election
period!
Without preconditions????;)
mikeyboss on May 16,2008 at 9:25PM.
mikeyboss: I want to make sure I got it!
Omaba will talk to the thugs,unconditional!
And like you said,Obama will debate McCain
with preconditions!
Yup,that sounds about right!
canopfor on May 16, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Sen. McCain and Mr. Hyde.
This is the McCain I like. The one that goes off talking about comprehensive immigration reform and global warming (Mr. Hyde)…not so much.
Queasy on May 16, 2008 at 9:58 PM
awesome…
funky chicken on May 16, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Did you even notice that I wasn’t responding to that post? I was responding to your post at 6:46 pm and you replied as though I was responding to your 7:07 post.
Again, you only have two categories: Defeat and Surrender. Into which of these would you put “Waking up and smelling the coffee?”
Kafir on May 16, 2008 at 10:29 PM
You stated
So after all this you still think that the U.S. was defeated militarily or surrendered (To whom if surrendered, the NVA or the VC?)
Amazing.
MB4 on May 16, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Sorry to split hairs, here, but your definition of a leftist and mine differ. LBJ was an idiot, and a corrupt politician, and a liberal, but I never thought he was a leftist.
Jaibones on May 17, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Ahh there is the MDSer, I was awaiting.
Squid Shark on May 17, 2008 at 12:12 AM
I honestly do not understand how anyone who claims he or she is a conservative and strong on national defense can refuse to vote for this man. He so obviously more qualified than the Democrat he is going to be running against.
Terrye on May 17, 2008 at 2:51 PM
squid:
You never have to wait long for the MDSer. These people come out with this stuff time and again, as if we had not heard the first million times or so they said it.
And then they claim they speak for us. all of us. the real America.
Terrye on May 17, 2008 at 2:53 PM
I honestly do not understand how anyone who claims he or she is a conservative and strong on national defense can vote for this man. He is so obviously interested in keeping the flood of illegals in the country.
MB4 on May 18, 2008 at 2:35 AM
Well, Terrye, you are Terrye, so it’s not a surprise you don’t understand.
flenser on May 18, 2008 at 4:46 PM
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