McCain to Obama: What is it, precisely, that you want to talk to Iran about?

posted at 5:06 pm on May 15, 2008 by Allahpundit

I’ve been looking for video of his full statement, as there’s a bit more to it than you see here per AmSpec and the Times, but this is the best I can do. He knows full well what Obama wants to talk to Iran about; it’s the same thing Condi Rice wanted to talk to them about earlier this year. A “grand bargain,” i.e. lifting U.S. sanctions and restoring diplomatic ties if only they’ll agree to give up their nuclear trump card and figure out some other way to influence Iraq that doesn’t involve supplying weapons to Shiite militias. The question McCain should be asking is what Obama intends to do if that deal is struck and then we discover that Iran’s cheating, just like it was cheating in concealing its nuclear program in the first place prior to 2002 and just like it’s guaranteed to try to cheat post-bargain given how effectively nuclear facilities can be concealed these days. And instead of whining about “hypocrisy,” Obama should hit him with the counterfactual: What exactly is Maverick’s plan for dealing with them? We’re on the clock here; they’ll have a bomb circa 2015 at the latest. Is he going to fold his arms and wait for Israel to deal with it or is he prepared for airstrikes, an admission Obama doubtless would love to wring out of him? To which McCain’s reply, of course, will be to ask if Obama’s ruled out airstrikes no matter how dire the situation is. It’s going to be a long summer.


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Well, lets see.

Bush gets the “affirmative action/arguementive” Side when he never mentioned names. And McCain is going for the gusto. So is McCain backing Bush or is this a tag team?

I wonder when the Obama action will start on Mccain.

upinak on May 15, 2008 at 5:10 PM

It’s going to be a long summer….for Obama.

OK it’s going to be a long summer for American voters who are gonna tire of hearing the Obama camp scream RACIST over and over and over again.

funky chicken on May 15, 2008 at 5:10 PM

It’s going to be a hot summer.

tomk59 on May 15, 2008 at 5:12 PM

funky chicken on May 15, 2008 at 5:10 PM

You said it, not i! :P

upinak on May 15, 2008 at 5:13 PM

OK it’s going to be a long summer for American voters who are gonna tire of hearing the Obama camp scream RACIST over and over and over again.

funky chicken on May 15, 2008 at 5:10 PM

Let them “scream” . . . nobody cares about their empty complaining anymore.

rplat on May 15, 2008 at 5:15 PM

OT: The New GI Bill IS PASSED! 256-166

Who voted for and against it.

upinak on May 15, 2008 at 5:18 PM

Dang! He changes the debate from Obama huge flip flop to what he’ll say. What an easy out for Obama, very un-Salter like.

Theworldisnotenough on May 15, 2008 at 5:18 PM

I believe that George Bush does not plan on leaving the Iranian nuclear option for his predecessor to deal with. Say what you like about the man, but he knows how big this is and he will deal with it.

In my opinion, his second goal is to get Bin Laden before he leaves office. It would be awfully sweet if he pulled off both of these.

Hening on May 15, 2008 at 5:19 PM

Actually, it is a good question for both of them. I would like to hear what each have in mind for Iran. Put it out on the table, and forget the “national security so we can’t talk about it” hoo haw. This is a pretty important issue for the world. I want to know if Bambi will use the threat of force in his negotiations, and for McCain, where the line in the sand gets drawn for action.

a capella on May 15, 2008 at 5:19 PM

People are not going to pay alot of attention in the Summer. After labor day the middle will be at home caring what the candidates have to say. Team McCain should keep Obama on the defense and frame him properly then hit him where it hurts. Abortion, guns, taxes, judicial appointements, etc.

Theworldisnotenough on May 15, 2008 at 5:21 PM

The Very Big War

RushBaby on May 15, 2008 at 5:21 PM

Let’s see… topic #1. You can’t talk about Israel in those terms and expect no reaction. So long as this continues, your government will suffer more and more.

freevillage on May 15, 2008 at 5:22 PM

Other words, put your money where your mouth is. This is a follow up to Bush saying not to talk to our enemy’s. Calling him out on the “no pre-conditions”, setting the trap.

right2bright on May 15, 2008 at 5:22 PM

Hening on May 15, 2008 at 5:19 PM

Yeah, I hope you are right. It would be a good way to go out. Bin Laden’s head stuck on a pole on the WH lawn and about 12 smoking craters in Iran.

a capella on May 15, 2008 at 5:26 PM

Hening on May 15, 2008 at 5:19 PM
a capella on May 15, 2008 at 5:26 PM

As with the Syrian nuclear reactor, Israel will strike when it decides it must. That means war, sooner or later. Even under Olmert, Israel acted, and with the apparent agreement of much of the rest of the world. Netanyahu is soon to take over in Israel again. Bush is soon to leave. The Saudis just warned Iran not to meddle in Lebanon. My guess is the same as yours. I haven’t sold my oil stocks yet.

JiangxiDad on May 15, 2008 at 5:33 PM

This issue should have been finished in 1979. One day after they took hostages.

Les in NC on May 15, 2008 at 5:35 PM

John McCain has far fewer wrinkles than he did last year.

Amazng how campaigning will do that for some candidates.

EJDolbow on May 15, 2008 at 5:42 PM

McCain should go after Obama on foreign policy during the summer. While it’s true that people pay less attention to politics over the summer than at other times, our enemies don’t go on vacation then. Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in August of 1990. The Palestinian “intifada” was revived in the summer of 2000. It was toward the end of summer that we were struck in 2001. It was during the summer of 2006 that the violence spiraled out of control in Iraq, and Hezbollah attacked Israel.

McCain does need to be out there, campaigning, presenting himself, and prompting Obama to open mouth and insert foot. The sounds of chewed toes can always be played back to an interested electorate in the fall.

Steve Z on May 15, 2008 at 5:46 PM

He knows full well what Obama wants to talk to Iran about; it’s the same thing Condi Rice wanted to talk to them about earlier this year. A “grand bargain,” i.e. lifting U.S. sanctions and restoring diplomatic ties if only they’ll agree to give up their nuclear trump card and figure out some other way to influence Iraq that doesn’t involve supplying weapons to Shiite militias. — Allahpundit

Sorry Allah, it can’t be that because we have already offered that deal and obviously it was rejected. So what else does Obama want to talk to Iran about? And why do all of Obama’s speeches imply that we don’t talk to our enemies or we have not talked to Iran, that’s just a big lie that Democrats like to repeat. But we always try diplomacy first and we talk sternly before we take action.

We talked to the Taliban after 9/11 told them to come clean and give us Osama, I can still remember the Taliban’s reply’s they were scoffing and laughing. So we bombed the crap out of them, its hard to find a scoffing and laughing Taliban these days.

We talked to Saddam Hussein after 9/11, told him to comply with all UN sanctions, even told him to leave Iraq if he wanted, he ignored us. His country was taken over and he got hung.

Now we are talking all the time to Iran and the little man over there is having none of it. He continues to build a nuclear capability that he says he will use to destroy Israel. So once again, what does Obama want to sit down and talk about with this insane person, it’s a legitimate question.

Maxx on May 15, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Wow! That McCain is really something the way he is standing up to Obama on Iran. McCain’s not going to talk to them (until he confers with Kennedy) and Obama is. What’s next? “What is Obama going to say to Hamas?”……what courage from the “maverick”! I’m sooooo impressed!

nottakingsides on May 15, 2008 at 5:49 PM

the same thing Gates and Rice want to talk about

sashal on May 15, 2008 at 5:52 PM

RushBaby on May 15, 2008 at 5:21 PM

Good link. Thanks.

a capella on May 15, 2008 at 5:53 PM

McCain should shut up until November 3rd, then just say “Vote For Strength”.

He’s only alienating his own base, the more he blathers.

If he’d just let Obama and crew embarrass themselves with their follies (without stepping in to take the harsh light off their gaffes and naivete and stupidities) he’d do better.

profitsbeard on May 15, 2008 at 5:59 PM

Obama the weak horse the the terrorists will vote for.

Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM

“When you have a regime that would be happier in the afterlife than in this life, this is not a regime that is subject to classic themes of deterrence.” John Bolton

mimi1220 on May 15, 2008 at 6:13 PM

Maxx on May 15, 2008 at 5:47 PM

great comment

funky chicken on May 15, 2008 at 6:57 PM

So when you use Ubama’s own ideas to confront him it’s a “political attack”?!?!? God, this summer may be fun afterall!

Oh, and the democrats are completely insane.

SouthernGent on May 15, 2008 at 7:03 PM

Give credit…? Sen. McCain is conservative-solid in foreign affairs. This video is so sweeeeet!
Randy
But then there is global warming, and the lone wolf: Maverick.

williars on May 15, 2008 at 7:07 PM

He called Obama the I word.

- The Cat

MirCat on May 15, 2008 at 7:25 PM

Shorter Obama: Stop attacking me for my politics! Stop with the distractions!

Seixon on May 15, 2008 at 7:45 PM

upinak at 5:18: Is this the bill that you are talking about? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080515/ap_on_go_co/congress_iraq_funding

Look at what the Dems tried to tie to that bill.

onlineanalyst on May 15, 2008 at 8:51 PM

His country was taken over and he got hung hanged.

Sorry for being the grammar policeman. Pictures are hung; Saddam was hanged.

Mallard T. Drake on May 15, 2008 at 8:56 PM

I know how hard this is to admit, but Hilary Clinton trumped both Obama and McCain with her “I will obliterate Iran” if they attack Israel, or make fun of my pantsuits, or whatever.
A second look at Hill? Uuuuuh?

RMR on May 15, 2008 at 9:20 PM

Mallard T. Drake on May 15, 2008 at 8:56 PM

It’s OK, I is still learning grammer.

Maxx on May 15, 2008 at 9:30 PM

upinak at 5:18: Is this the bill that you are talking about? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080515/ap_on_go_co/congress_iraq_funding

Look at what the Dems tried to tie to that bill.

onlineanalyst on May 15, 2008 at 8:51 PM

Boxer tried to attach an amnesty bill to this bill to get low-paying migrant farm workers in the California orchards and fields. This bill needs to be stripped of the amnesty part or stopped altogether.

cjs1943 on May 15, 2008 at 11:51 PM

I’m a conservative and I frankly don’t give a rat’s but what McCain says anymore! I thought what Hillary said about Iran rocked! McCain will check with his friends from the other side of the aisle before he does anything anyway. Ted Kennedy and Russ Feingold will need to approve every move he makes if elected (which he won’t be) so why do we care what this liberal Republican says. We’ve had 8 years of Country Club Republican rule. How’s that worked out for everyone? 6 years of nation building, 4 dollar gas, economic issues, our border is wide open (where’s the fence!), spending is out-of-control, 300,000 abortions a year funded by American taxpayers, etc! Nice job Republicans!

sabbott on May 16, 2008 at 9:06 AM

This issue should have been finished in 1979. One day after they took hostages.

Les in NC on May 15, 2008 at 5:35 PM

I completely agree, but unfortunately we had a pacifist for president back then, Mr. Jimmah. Even more unfortunate is now we are facing the possiblity of having President Jimmah part due (Bambi) at a crutial time in our history when the last thing we need is a bleeding heart liberal, socialist pacifist for president!

It will be a long hot summer indeed and if Bambi is our next president it will be a long and dangerous four years!

Liberty or Death on May 16, 2008 at 11:44 AM