Rock bottom: Iraqi soldier killed by … eight-year-old suicide bomber; Update: Girl was 16?
posted at 11:50 am on May 14, 2008 by Allahpundit
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An eight-year-old girl, to be precise, which shouldn’t make it worse but somehow does.
An eight-year-old girl strapped with explosives has blown up and killed an Iraqi army captain, reports say.
The bomb was detonated by remote control, injuring four soldiers in addition to the one who died, an Iraqi Army spokesman said.
Local authorities imposed a curfew in the area and American troops launched a search for those responsible.
US soldiers confirmed that a young girl was involved in the attack, which took place near Youssifiyah, south of the capital, Baghdad.
An act of desperation by a losing side? Nah — follow the links in this post and remind yourself that we’re on familiar ground here, so much so that this isn’t even the first time I’ve used “rock bottom” for a headline in this vein. Observe the 24-hour rule, as the last time a story like this bubbled up it turned out both Iraqi and U.S. military sources were wrong, but it’s hard to see how they could have erred on this one if U.S. troops are already confirming that a girl was “involved.” Maybe the bomber was an adult and she was the decoy? That wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened in Iraq, either. Exit question: Was the poor girl indoctrinated before she was sent out, do you suppose, or did they simply wire her up and tell her to run along over to the nice Iraqi soldier and ask him if he has any sweets?
Update: As I said, it’s always worth observing the 24-hour rule with these things. Sky News now quotes military sources as saying she was around 16. Whew!
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One of Bill Maher’s heroic yutes no less.
TheSitRep on May 14, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Such a peace-loving sort.
HotJavaJack on May 14, 2008 at 11:54 AM
I don’t know. I’m starting to like Ann Coulter’s idea for the region more and more.
TheBlueSite on May 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Just like the Minutemen.
kcluva on May 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Still, the tactic of using-up your replacements before they are of realistic fighting age isn’t a good tactic.
Bishop on May 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Indoctrinated, under duress, unknowingly carrying the device?
Good question. Probably the later, would be my guess.
And the democrats want us to leave the Iraqi people to ‘their destiny.’ Well, this is what ‘their destiny’ looks like if we leave too soon. Evil monsters intentionally killing civilians, using others to kill their enemy such as the Iraqi army. These are the people that the US military and the Iraqi government are up against.
This is what the democrats want Iraq to sink to after we leave, all so their lies about Bush and a totally pulverized Iraq brutalized by these people will result in. After that, they can write in the history books that Bush was worse than Saddam. (In my opinion.)
wise_man on May 14, 2008 at 12:01 PM
It doesn’t matter. Either way it is monsterous and those behind this sort of murder deserve a slow and painful death. Just don’t waterboard them for godsake.
moxie_neanderthal on May 14, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Haven’t they already written in text books, bush was the iraqi anti-christ?
upinak on May 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Perhaps she was promised 72 virgins in paradise.
repvoter on May 14, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Exit Question:
A: I wouldn’t be surprised at either.
Palestinian kids love hating Jews and Zionists and Israel at a young age. At the same time, the Jihadeen in Iraq have used kids in carbombs before to fool American soldiers into a false sense of security, only to exit the car, kids inside, and blow it up. So who knows.
blatantblue on May 14, 2008 at 12:09 PM
She’ll be one of those 72 virgins. Gotta restock the stables somehow.
lorien1973 on May 14, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Nothing should stop us from finding the monster that pushed the button, rigged the button, and ordered the op. NOTHING.
That’s it….this post has me weaving rope. Gladly.
Limerick on May 14, 2008 at 12:13 PM
This should underscore the need to understand why this war will last for 100 years.
Or until they run out of children or adults, whichever comes first.
I’m sure the mom helped strap the bomb on and has a memorial plate with the child’s photo laminated on.
Kini on May 14, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Have some perspective, people, it’s not as if the savages put panties on someone’s head or left their lights on 24/7. You know, the really terrible things that we do.
Bishop on May 14, 2008 at 12:16 PM
This whole situation is completely upside-down, Bishop.
wise_man on May 14, 2008 at 12:18 PM
It does to us. To them, it’s better, they hate females. They might tolerate the Code Pink ladies here that are trying to help them, but they really hate them too.
The left will just say this is all Bush’s fault anyway, wouldn’t have happened if Saddam was left to his own devices.
kirkill on May 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Savages — and we’re supposed to talk to these people?
Richard Romano on May 14, 2008 at 12:20 PM
I would guess the latter. They don’t normally bother indoctrinating little girls, do they?
Tanya on May 14, 2008 at 12:20 PM
She gets 72 pedophile lesbians in paradise.
Akzed on May 14, 2008 at 12:21 PM
But remember folks, we’ve lost the moral high ground.
World B. Free on May 14, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Girls blow up so quickly these days, have you noticed? Must be the formula.
Akzed on May 14, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Saved the savages from having to perform the genital mutilation too.
kirkill on May 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Dead eight year old girls are hilarious. Douchebag.
Tanya on May 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Not sure. They certainly don’t mind indoctrinating little boys, and she did more damage here than most of them have done.
Allahpundit on May 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM
The Islamic religion needs to end. There is no other solution.
AZCON on May 14, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Please, AZCON. This is not “Islam” doing this, but the d*bags in Iraq that we and the Iraqi government is fighting.
wise_man on May 14, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Yeah, no kidding. I was just trying to remember if I’d ever seen a little girl in those awful videos of the kids in training.
Tanya on May 14, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Douchebag?! Scumbag!
This is an uninformed statement to say the least. Ever been here? http://www.jihadwatch.org, or howsabout http://www.therepigionofpeace.com?
Akzed on May 14, 2008 at 12:45 PM
How it is anyone could NOT want to find the kind of people who do this kind of stuff and kill them slowly (so they can think about it and how it feels) is simply beyond me.
I had the same lack of understanding about Vietnam, when VC would do a premature Caesarian section on an uncooperative village leader’s wife (no anesthesia or post-op care, either) and play soccer with the fetus (reeducating the villagers as to who they should support). Not that bad things were done solely on one side, but it hardly made sense to leave the field to terrorists.
History repeats itself.
Harry Schell on May 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM
In this religion, little girls are mere property, to be used, abused, mutilated, and discarded. Is it the fault of the religion, or those practicing the religion?
AZCON on May 14, 2008 at 12:48 PM
I am not an expert in Islam. However, I am not uninformed. I have lived in an Islamic country before and I reject that somehow the entire religion is responsible for some d*bags in Iraq using an 8 year old girl to murder. jihadwatch and therepigionofpeace websites are indeed great resources to what evil is being done in the name of Islam.
What we as a nation and as a world are facing against these people is horrific. I see no need to make blanket statements that have behind them no merit.
wise_man on May 14, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Life is pretty cheap to these people. Especially when they celebrate death.
cjs1943 on May 14, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Mohammed “married” a six year old and consummated with her at nine. Child marriage, honor killing, clitorectomies, etc are the norm, not the exception, in Islam.
And I’m the “douchebag”?
Akzed on May 14, 2008 at 12:53 PM
We’re not talking about a dead eight year old girl. This cowardly and murderous act was carried out by a trained suicide bomber who didn’t give a second thought to blowing herself up along with any innocent victims within her proximity.
She deserves no compassion from the civilized world. She was a savage trained by savages. Good riddance.
fogw on May 14, 2008 at 12:53 PM
No, you are not.
cjs1943 on May 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM
There’s Islam, then there’s nominal Islam. Islam is murderous and abusive, rewarding terrorists with virgins in paradise for killing children. This is Islam, not a perversion of it.
Akzed on May 14, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Thanks!
/whew!
Akzed on May 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM
It is the fault of those that perverted and hijacked a religion in the name of world domination.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 14, 2008 at 1:05 PM
But Islam promises and promotes world domination. How is acting on this a perversion?
AZCON on May 14, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Unless you were magically there, you have no idea whether that’s true or not. These monsters do make a habit of strapping bombs to people who don’t know enough to resist.
Tanya on May 14, 2008 at 1:12 PM
There are a fair number of Muslim/Islamic organizations where the members actually want to live in peace. For example, there is the American Islamic Forum for Democracy. I was referring to perversion by groups like AQ, MB and such.
Besides, any religion that does not value the sanctity of life is no longer a religion. It is a cult. You can insert your own jokes about the Democrat party.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 14, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Then they are not practicing Islam.
AZCON on May 14, 2008 at 1:24 PM
I’ve hoped for it for years.
Tim Burton on May 14, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Exactly!
Tim Burton on May 14, 2008 at 1:27 PM
So then, what religion do they practice?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 14, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Oh, yeah. Islam is the Religion of Peace, how could we forget.
Aristotle on May 14, 2008 at 1:39 PM
AIFD is an Islamic cult. They don’t practice Islam. It is by their own admission a secular movement. That being said, I welcome AIFD to convert the thinking of the other 1 billion true Islam followers. As I understand it, this would require removing large portions of the currently used Koran, and especially anything having to do with Mohammad. Sounds like the beginning of just another Islam faction (see sunni, see shia).
AZCON on May 14, 2008 at 1:41 PM
I wasn’t magically there, but I have a son I love dearly who has spent two tours there. I am thankful every day that one of these mini-maniacs did not find there way to him and blow him into a thousand pieces.
The parents of these child-bombers are monsters, just as their offspring are. They are not like you and I. They put no value on life, rather they put great value on death and bringing death to others.
If the young girl had not committed this atrocity at eight years of age, she might have at ten, or sixteen, or twenty five. So feeling sorry for her because of her young age, or because her parents forced her is moot. Would they also be forcing her at age twenty-five? No, by then she would be a full-fledged jihadist eager to spill the blood of Americans, perhaps here on our own soil.
That ain’t gonna happen now. Buh-bye little terrorist.
fogw on May 14, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Haven’t you been burned enough by relying on one single media report by now?
corona on May 14, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Exactly, and when this religion is “hijacked” as you stated and is no longer a religion but a cult then it would seem logical that those that adhere to the religion and not the ideological Islamic jihadist cult would be doing all they could to not only denounce those that have “hijacked” their religion of peace but would be fighting these sick bastards tooth and nail, yet I don’t see this happening, so why is that?
Well the only logical conclusion I can come to as to why is because a very high percentage of Muslims that adhere to the teachings of Islam support and agree with the jihadist ideology in order to fulfill the promise of the return of the missing Imam and re-establishment of a Caliphate that will dominate the world.
This is and will continue to be my belief and opinion for as long as I see these “moderate Muslims” sitting on the sidelines doing nothing while their religion is “hijacked.” Until I see actions that contradict what their words say I will not trust them as far as I could throw them and IMHO anyone that does buy into “the religion of peace has been hijacked by fanatics” line are being duped!
Liberty or Death on May 14, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Or, she could have turned out to be the next Ayaan Hirsi Ali. She started out that way, too. Read her wiki.
Tanya on May 14, 2008 at 2:08 PM
As Christians, are we to ignore large sections of the Bible as well?
For example, Deuteronomy 13:6-16.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 14, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Wrizzong!
The religion is not being hijacked. The Qur’an and the Ahadith are explicit in their commands to convert non Muslim peoples to Islam.
It is explicit in its command to wage war on these people, especially if they refuse to convert to Islam.
This religion is not being perverted.
Sura 9 Aya 5, which commands Muslims to go slay unbelievers and Kuffar, is not something to be “perverted.”
How can we pervert words and attitudes that depict the Jews as apes, swine, and Christians as those who have strayed from the true path of Islam? There is no perverting required to reach todays conclusion.
This denial is so prevalent, not only in liberal circles, but conservative circles as well. We need to stop being afraid to tell Muslims that there is something fatally wrong with their religion, and that some sort of reformation needs to be put in place.
blatantblue on May 14, 2008 at 2:14 PM
That’s a large section? Let us also note that Deuteronomy is part of the Old Testament, a book that is not of much importance in comparison to the New Testament, which is the bedrock for Christianity.
blatantblue on May 14, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Islam does not have this sort of preference. The Qur’an is the Qur’an, and it is to be adhered to in its entirety. This is not the same with the Bible, as anyone who’s been raised Catholic or Christian will know the foundation of the religion is the NEW Testament.
blatantblue on May 14, 2008 at 2:18 PM
I’m not ready to blame the entire religion for its nutcases any more than I would blame Christianity or Judaism or Hinduism for theirs.
Bishop on May 14, 2008 at 2:19 PM
Do the Christians, Jews, and Catholic consider their “nutcases” martyrs?
AZCON on May 14, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Perhaps you should go open a Qur’an. After a few weeks I’d think you’d be ready.
Why are HotAir readers so reluctant? Do you folks not even read Spencer’s Qur’an series?
blatantblue on May 14, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Do the Christians, Jews, and Catholic consider their “nutcases” martyrs?
Do all muslims consider their nutcases martyrs? If either of us can name just one muslim who doesn’t then your claim falls flat.
Bishop on May 14, 2008 at 2:38 PM
I regularly visit Jihad/Dhimmiwatch and read the posts, certainly there is a vast network of those who are corrupting the religion, but really, calling every last muslim a murder-in-training?
Bishop on May 14, 2008 at 2:41 PM
So I’m clear……there is exactly NO WAY a Muslim can be a Muslim if they renounce jihad?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 14, 2008 at 2:42 PM
I spent about a year in an Islamic country, and no one ever tried to kill me, convert me to Islam or try to get my 8 year old daughter to murder other arabs. Not that I had an 8 year old daughter, but the point stands. Either I wasn’t actually in an Islamic country, or your version of Islam only exists in corrupt regimes (such as Iran - and not all Iranians buy into this crap) and poor, uneducated, backwater hell holes where Islam is perverted by the people who are in control.
I completely agree with others when it’s pointed out what rotten things are done in the name of Islam. The charlatans in Islam who use their religion to twist and mold their people to stay ignorant to the truth and to hate are ten times worse than any fraudulent corrupt Christian leader here in the US.
Conservatives who claim that all of Islam is to blame when there is a horrific act like this is giving all conservatives a bad name. I expect ignorance and bigotry from liberals and comments on liberal websites. I don’t want to see them here - and if I do, the only thing I can do is challenge them so that the liberals who read this page won’t be convinced that ‘all conservatives think that all of Islam is responsible for this. Or whatever.
wise_man on May 14, 2008 at 2:42 PM
When did I say every Muslim is a murderer?
I didn’t. I am simply pointing out there is something fatally wrong with Islam. Thanks for the distortion though.
Did I say every Muslim follows through?
No. I thought the reading comprehension level here was higher.
blatantblue on May 14, 2008 at 2:44 PM
What’s wrong with blaming Islam when Islam has the commands in its scripture?!
Am I saying every Muslim takes part in Jihad? No, and if someone can find where I said it I will pay pal you my small savings account.
The point is there is something wrong with the religion.
You people act as if these Sheiks and Imams sit there trying to mooooold and twiiiist Islam all day long! My point, and the point of Spencer (who no one has been able to refute), is that the ideals of Islamic supremacy, violence towards unbelievers and Jews is chock full in the Qur’an and Ahadith.
How is this bigoted? Of course not every Muslim takes part in Jihad. It is abundantly clear, as we don’t have 1.2 suicide vests going off.
However, it is ridiculous how you people write off people’s concerns with Islamic doctrine as bigoted, and you claim that folks like the Blind Sheik, Sayyid Qutb, Ayman al-Zawahiri are all twisting islam!!!
blatantblue on May 14, 2008 at 2:47 PM
And you can’t compare Christianity to Islam. Sorry.
You’re taking two books that are a conglomeration of various authors, with one (The New Testament) being the basis of the religion, and the other being unimportant, and comparing it to a book with a single author and authority; a book that is important in its whole, unlike the Bible.
blatantblue on May 14, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Jeez blue, very liberal of you to sink to the level of personal attack, perhaps RedState is more to your liking?
If there is something “fatally wrong” with islam then its abuse should be laid at the feet of those who commit crimes in its name, as it should be for any religious zealot.
You are trying awfully hard to be the resident expert on islam, so please explain whether those who don’t explicitly follow the Koran are true muslims or not.
Bishop on May 14, 2008 at 2:55 PM
I have to go to a final, but seriously. You people need to take off the “Afraid to Offend” glasses and see Islam for what it is.
Not every Muslim engages in Jihad. As an Arabic student myself, I tend to think that this is because most Muslims do not speak Arabic. There are only 300 Million speakers, and 1.2-1.5 billion Muslims. So, perhaps this linguistic barrier prevents many more Muslims from reaching a more intimate understand of Islamic scripture. Perhaps this is part of the reason why there aren’t more jihadists.
Anyway, not every Muslim engages in Jihad, and they all have different reasons for not doing so.
The point is that there is something fatally wrong with the Qur’an and Ahadith, and with Islam as a whole. Pointing this out is not analogous to rabid and ignorant liberals, nor is it bigoted. If we are ever going to change anything, we need to open and honest about the problem. This does not mean we go on witch hunts and burn at the stake those who practice Islam.
What it means is diagnosing what’s wrong, and trying to figure out if there is some way we can get Islamic people to denounce and reform these violent themes.
The nile is nice,
But denial isn’t.
-C.H.
blatantblue on May 14, 2008 at 2:56 PM
My opinion is firm that I would rather help to secure the release of all Islam followers from the “religion” of Islam, than to have to fight every last one to the death to end what will otherwise be an endless, wasteful, battle to stop these people from trying to kill me (us).
AZCON on May 14, 2008 at 2:58 PM
saw this after my final post, so here we go.
If you can’t deal with my “Attacks,” then do not put words in my mouth. A shame a college student is having to tell you this, is it not?
Blame is to be placed at both places, the one that goes and blows up a crowd full of people, obviously, and the religion that espouses such hatred. Why is that wrong, or incorrect?
I’m not trying to be the resident expert. I pointed out who that is, and it is Robert Spencer. Perhaps you’d like to go refute his expertise on Islam? No one else has been able to so far, so why don’t you give it a shot?
I don’t need to explain whether or not those who do not engage in Jihad or not are true Muslims. Stop with these irrelevant questions. The problem at hand is the violence and hatred spewed about in Islamic doctrine. Whether or not people follow certain violent tenets in the religion is irrelevant.
blatantblue on May 14, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Excellent points and they support my opinion and the point I was making in my previous post. The absence of action from these so called “moderate Muslims” to reclaim their religion of peace from those “militants” that have “hijcaked” their religion along with the teachings of the Koran make the argument in support of such a theory that moderate Muslims exist very weak indeed, in fact it makes it about as probable as the existence of the unicorn.
Not to mention buying into this theory weakens our resolve and keep us from doing ALL that needs to be done to defeat this murderous religious ideology once and for all!
Liberty or Death on May 14, 2008 at 3:06 PM
I see, so your budding education has led you to use personal attacks as a debate technique. But wait, don’t tell me, in addition your college attendance has given you the ability to see things a bit more clearly than the rest of us.
Whoa..history has been made, a college student believes they have insight.
Bishop on May 14, 2008 at 3:14 PM
It must be your “arabic” schooling which makes you so..so..so..presumptuous.
Don’t worry though, most of us go through that “look how thoughtful I am” stage; I used to quote sociological theories all the time while I attended college.
Bishop on May 14, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Not to mention buying into this theory weakens our resolve and keep us from doing ALL that needs to be done to defeat this murderous religious ideology once and for all!
So what does “ALL” include, exactly?
Bishop on May 14, 2008 at 3:18 PM
I would like to ask blatantblue a question: Do you want the imposition of shiria law in America? Does the so called “Moderate” muslim?
TimothyJ on May 14, 2008 at 3:26 PM
It means using any and all tools at our disposal to defeat a fanatical and violent religious ideology/doctrine that threatens our very freedoms and existence.
We need to stop worrying about being PC for fear of offending Muslims and do whatever needs to be done including enhanced interrogation techniques (water boarding if needed) and hitting them hard and often militarily until they come to the realization that they need to reform their religion or they and their fanatical/violent religion will be eliminated once and for all.
This is not the first time Islam has reared its ugly head, Islam has a long history of attempting to convert the world to Islam by the sword and the establishment of a world ruled under their strict Sharia Caliphate, this is not some new doctrine being carried out by “militants” that “hijacked” the Islamic religion, this doctrine is and always has been in the Koran, their holy book!
IMHO in order to ensure long term peace throughout the world where all cultures and religions live in peaceful co-existence either the Muslim religion changes their religious ideology of hate, violence, intolerance, and goal of world domination to an ideology of peaceful co-existence or they should be eliminated with extreme prejudice using any and all tools we have available regardless of how politically incorrect it may seem to some! After all, survival needs come first, the rest (being PC, reconciliation, etc.) can come after Islam has changed their ideology and agenda and if they don’t we must change it for them, even if it means they no longer exist.
This doctrine may sound harsh but they have a choice in the matter. They must bring about a fundamental change in their current religious ideology and doctrine so it is more conducive to peaceful co-existence or the rest of the world should demonstrate to them (through actions and not words) that we have had enough and if they continue on their path they will cease to exist. Again it’s their decision to continue on their current path not ours, so they have a very important decision to make and the west and freedom loving people all over the world must force them to make that decision because the longer we wait the stronger they get, the weaker we get (in their eyes) and more people are going to suffer and die because of our inaction and hesitation to draw a final line in the sand when it comes to Islam and its current and long history of being a violent and intolerant religious ideology that does not currently (nor ever has) had the intention of peacefully co-existing with any other religion or doctrine outside of Islam!
In other words we know what their intentions and ultimate goals are so lets stop playing their game and force them to decide once and for all, will it be peaceful co-existence or will it be elimination? To use an anaology here it’s just like with a bully, if you keep playing his game on his terms you will continue to be bullied. But if you knock his azz down, you bloody his nose, and look him straight in the eye and tell him that under no terms will you continue to put up with his bullying more times than not they will leave you alone, and if that doesn’t work you hammer the Shiite out of him to prove what you said to him was not an idle threat.
This (IMHO) is the only option the “religion of peace” has left us with, they have painted themselves and us into a corner and when cornered one is only left with two options, fight or submit and I personally will not submit to Islam’s warped, violent, and intolerant religious ideology, ever! Islam is at a very important crossroad and I hope for everyone’s sake (including theirs) they choose wisely.
Liberty or Death on May 14, 2008 at 4:36 PM
So, I have to ask: are we, as Americans, as serious about winning this war as the descendants of Ishmael?
We know Carter wasn’t.
We know Reagan was.
Bush the 1st: half-heartedly.
Clinton? Pathetically weak and cowardly.
Bush the 2nd: Good effort, not much for strategy.
Obama? Yeah, sure, let’s invade our allies while talking with our enemies? Brilliant…
The “Other” Clinton? Seriously, what world or terrorist leader would she intimidate?
McCain: A career politician who may have military experience, but has yet to show any creativity or insight beyond the mere desire to employ bigger bombs and more troops against an Iranian led and supported insurgency that he frankly does not understand.
Hopefully whomever gets elected will have the brains enough to listen to those who’ve been fighting this war for a little while and learn how to win and gain a desire to win.
Send_Me on May 14, 2008 at 9:06 PM
It means using any and all tools at our disposal to defeat a fanatical and violent religious ideology/doctrine that threatens our very freedoms and existence.
Don’t dance around the issue, are you ready to kill every muslim?
Bishop on May 14, 2008 at 10:07 PM
I thought using the mentally diminished was bad enough. Now they are using 3rd grader school girls? I have a daughter.
OK, I’m changing positions. Forget waterboarding, use hot irons, pulling teeth with pliers, acid in the eyes, and we will dispose of the corpse later after he has spilled the beans. Or how about a no prisoner’s doctrine?
The “high ground” just got lowered, a lot!
Hog Wild on May 14, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Well, we didn’t need to kill every Japanese and German to totally defeat them. But lemme ask you: would you kill every Muslim if you were certain that it would prevent a 10 megaton nuke from going off in Denver?
Be honest.
Akzed on May 14, 2008 at 10:54 PM