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	<title>Comments on: NYT: McCain &#8220;sealed away&#8221; from the lessons of Vietnam</title>
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		<title>By: funky chicken</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/nyt-mccain-sealed-away-from-the-lessons-of-vietnam/comment-page-2/#comment-1131036</link>
		<dc:creator>funky chicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Pill, one reason I respond forcefully to this crap is that decent people like you (yes, I give you the benefit of the doubt; Valiant and the rest of the crazy MDS brigades not so much) get fooled by these bastards.  They harassed Reagan and GHW Bush, and their hatred for McCain originates in that era as well.

Don&#039;t get taken in by truly bad actors....they are as toxic as Jeremiah Wright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Pill, one reason I respond forcefully to this crap is that decent people like you (yes, I give you the benefit of the doubt; Valiant and the rest of the crazy MDS brigades not so much) get fooled by these bastards.  They harassed Reagan and GHW Bush, and their hatred for McCain originates in that era as well.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get taken in by truly bad actors&#8230;.they are as toxic as Jeremiah Wright.</p>
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		<title>By: funky chicken</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/nyt-mccain-sealed-away-from-the-lessons-of-vietnam/comment-page-2/#comment-1130993</link>
		<dc:creator>funky chicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.miafacts.org

Run by:
So, what do I know about it? 
My Credentials

I am Joe Schlatter, Colonel, U. S. Army, Retired.  I retired on 1 April 1995.  My involvement in the MIA issue came during two assignments:

	February 1986 - July 1990
	Feb 86 - Dec 88:  Chief, Analysis Branch, Defense Intelligence Agency  Special Office for POW-MIA Affairs
	Dec 88 - Jul 90:  Chief,  Defense Intelligence Agency Special Office for POW-MIA Affairs
 	July 1993 - March 1995:  Deputy Director, Defense POW-MIA Office
Vietnam Veteran
2/13 Field Artillery
February 1969 - February 1970</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.miafacts.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.miafacts.org</a></p>
<p>Run by:<br />
So, what do I know about it?<br />
My Credentials</p>
<p>I am Joe Schlatter, Colonel, U. S. Army, Retired.  I retired on 1 April 1995.  My involvement in the MIA issue came during two assignments:</p>
<p>	February 1986 &#8211; July 1990<br />
	Feb 86 &#8211; Dec 88:  Chief, Analysis Branch, Defense Intelligence Agency  Special Office for POW-MIA Affairs<br />
	Dec 88 &#8211; Jul 90:  Chief,  Defense Intelligence Agency Special Office for POW-MIA Affairs<br />
 	July 1993 &#8211; March 1995:  Deputy Director, Defense POW-MIA Office<br />
Vietnam Veteran<br />
2/13 Field Artillery<br />
February 1969 &#8211; February 1970</p>
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		<title>By: funky chicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>funky chicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sampley and Kiley have been scum since the 1980s (and probably before then, but that&#039;s when I became aware of them).  I have said before that it is a stain on Rove and GW Bush&#039;s honor that they used them in 2000 against McCain and in 2004 against Kerry.

Sampley and Kiley are supported by many on the far right who are the primary force behind the &quot;True Conservatives&quot; who hate John McCain.  

Bob Smith is one of them, as is some nut with a french sounding last name that I can&#039;t remember right now.  Scum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sampley and Kiley have been scum since the 1980s (and probably before then, but that&#8217;s when I became aware of them).  I have said before that it is a stain on Rove and GW Bush&#8217;s honor that they used them in 2000 against McCain and in 2004 against Kerry.</p>
<p>Sampley and Kiley are supported by many on the far right who are the primary force behind the &#8220;True Conservatives&#8221; who hate John McCain.  </p>
<p>Bob Smith is one of them, as is some nut with a french sounding last name that I can&#8217;t remember right now.  Scum.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/nyt-mccain-sealed-away-from-the-lessons-of-vietnam/comment-page-2/#comment-1130452</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I already explained, the real spokespeople, like O’Neill do not agree with Vets against John McCain.

right2bright on May 16, 2008 at 3:01 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You never backed up that assertion with a link, even though I asked you to several times.

It appears I&#039;ve hit a nerve here...all you can offer is ad hominem attacks.

If you have something substantive to back up your claim that O’Neill does not agree with these Vets, I suggest you provide it now.

Otherwise, your attempts to defend McCain by attacking other Vietnam veterans and me will appear baseless and a flimsy shield for John McCain&#039;s campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I already explained, the real spokespeople, like O’Neill do not agree with Vets against John McCain.</p>
<p>right2bright on May 16, 2008 at 3:01 PM
</p></blockquote>
<p>You never backed up that assertion with a link, even though I asked you to several times.</p>
<p>It appears I&#8217;ve hit a nerve here&#8230;all you can offer is ad hominem attacks.</p>
<p>If you have something substantive to back up your claim that O’Neill does not agree with these Vets, I suggest you provide it now.</p>
<p>Otherwise, your attempts to defend McCain by attacking other Vietnam veterans and me will appear baseless and a flimsy shield for John McCain&#8217;s campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/nyt-mccain-sealed-away-from-the-lessons-of-vietnam/comment-page-2/#comment-1130414</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;right2bright on May 16, 2008 at 3:01 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/sampbio.htm
http://vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/kiley_bio.htm

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/sampbio.htm
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_bio_jerry.htm

They are the same people, not &quot;Just the website providers, the ones making the money from the site.&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;Get it? Sheesh…&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>right2bright on May 16, 2008 at 3:01 PM
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/sampbio.htm" rel="nofollow">http://vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/sampbio.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/kiley_bio.htm" rel="nofollow">http://vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/kiley_bio.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/sampbio.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/sampbio.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_bio_jerry.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_bio_jerry.htm</a></p>
<p>They are the same people, not &#8220;Just the website providers, the ones making the money from the site.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Get it? Sheesh…</strong></p>
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		<title>By: fossten</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/nyt-mccain-sealed-away-from-the-lessons-of-vietnam/comment-page-2/#comment-1130351</link>
		<dc:creator>fossten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My point is about the Sampley, Kiley, etc info that gets posted again and again, with not a single reproachful comment by the site administrators.

fossten, you are a nasty person.

funky chicken on May 16, 2008 at 10:21 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You need to read:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air&#039;s community of registered readers. &lt;strong&gt;Please don&#039;t assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand.&lt;/strong&gt; A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now go have a hot toddy or something and get some sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My point is about the Sampley, Kiley, etc info that gets posted again and again, with not a single reproachful comment by the site administrators.</p>
<p>fossten, you are a nasty person.</p>
<p>funky chicken on May 16, 2008 at 10:21 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>You need to read:</p>
<blockquote><p>Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air&#8217;s community of registered readers. <strong>Please don&#8217;t assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand.</strong> A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now go have a hot toddy or something and get some sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: fossten</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/nyt-mccain-sealed-away-from-the-lessons-of-vietnam/comment-page-2/#comment-1130348</link>
		<dc:creator>fossten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My point is about the Sampley, Kiley, etc info that gets posted again and again, with not a single reproachful comment by the site administrators.

fossten, you are a nasty person.

funky chicken on May 16, 2008 at 10:21 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;Overreacting much?  Seriously, I correct your error and somehow you know me as a person?  You stay classy, Funky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My point is about the Sampley, Kiley, etc info that gets posted again and again, with not a single reproachful comment by the site administrators.</p>
<p>fossten, you are a nasty person.</p>
<p>funky chicken on May 16, 2008 at 10:21 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Overreacting much?  Seriously, I correct your error and somehow you know me as a person?  You stay classy, Funky.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/nyt-mccain-sealed-away-from-the-lessons-of-vietnam/comment-page-2/#comment-1130323</link>
		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Can you “so easily disprove” that McCain was not in Eastern Europe during the time he says he was in solitary confinement (and none of the other POWs saw him)?
Red Pill on May 15, 2008 at 12:39 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Can you prove that you never touched a young boy inappropriately?
Can you prove that for every day of your life, you never reached over to a young boy and &quot;touched&quot; him?
You can&#039;t?  Well looks like we have a pedophile among us.
See how that works?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Can you “so easily disprove” that McCain was not in Eastern Europe during the time he says he was in solitary confinement (and none of the other POWs saw him)?<br />
Red Pill on May 15, 2008 at 12:39 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Can you prove that you never touched a young boy inappropriately?<br />
Can you prove that for every day of your life, you never reached over to a young boy and &#8220;touched&#8221; him?<br />
You can&#8217;t?  Well looks like we have a pedophile among us.<br />
See how that works?</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/nyt-mccain-sealed-away-from-the-lessons-of-vietnam/comment-page-2/#comment-1130303</link>
		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you thought they were telling the truth 4 years ago (Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry), why don’t you think they are telling the truth now (Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain)?
Red Pill on May 15, 2008 at 5:12 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I already explained, the real spokespeople, like O&#039;Neill do not agree with Vets against John McCain.
Once again, the same people are not supporting both issues.  Just the website providers, the ones making the money from the site.
Get it?  Sheesh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you thought they were telling the truth 4 years ago (Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry), why don’t you think they are telling the truth now (Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain)?<br />
Red Pill on May 15, 2008 at 5:12 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I already explained, the real spokespeople, like O&#8217;Neill do not agree with Vets against John McCain.<br />
Once again, the same people are not supporting both issues.  Just the website providers, the ones making the money from the site.<br />
Get it?  Sheesh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/nyt-mccain-sealed-away-from-the-lessons-of-vietnam/comment-page-2/#comment-1129797</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I.E., I&#039;m clearly not in favor of Obama.

If McCain is the Republican nominee coming out of the convention, I will vote for him.  But I believe he is a Trojan Horse.  

If Huckabee is the Republican nominee coming out of the convention, I expect you to vote for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I.E., I&#8217;m clearly not in favor of Obama.</p>
<p>If McCain is the Republican nominee coming out of the convention, I will vote for him.  But I believe he is a Trojan Horse.  </p>
<p>If Huckabee is the Republican nominee coming out of the convention, I expect you to vote for him.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at my blog and see who “The Communist infiltration stuff is aimed squarely at” [on my blog].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at my blog and see who “The Communist infiltration stuff is aimed squarely at” [on my blog].</p>
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		<title>By: DrSteve</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/nyt-mccain-sealed-away-from-the-lessons-of-vietnam/comment-page-2/#comment-1129765</link>
		<dc:creator>DrSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Take a look at my blog and see who “The Communist infiltration stuff is aimed squarely at”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Can you “so easily disprove” that McCain was not in Eastern Europe during the time he says he was in solitary confinement (and none of the other POWs saw him)?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Take a look at my blog and see who “The Communist infiltration stuff is aimed squarely at”</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Can you “so easily disprove” that McCain was not in Eastern Europe during the time he says he was in solitary confinement (and none of the other POWs saw him)?</p></blockquote>
<p>Liar.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/nyt-mccain-sealed-away-from-the-lessons-of-vietnam/comment-page-2/#comment-1129701</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Huckabee worshipers are trucking in these disgusting insinuations. The Communist infiltration stuff is aimed squarely at McCain.

DrSteve on May 16, 2008 at 10:16 AM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re wrong on two accounts.  
1) I worship the living God.
2) Take a look at my blog and see who &quot;The Communist infiltration stuff is aimed squarely at&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Huckabee worshipers are trucking in these disgusting insinuations. The Communist infiltration stuff is aimed squarely at McCain.</p>
<p>DrSteve on May 16, 2008 at 10:16 AM
</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong on two accounts.<br />
1) I worship the living God.<br />
2) Take a look at my blog and see who &#8220;The Communist infiltration stuff is aimed squarely at&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;funky chicken on May 16, 2008 at 10:05 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ok, so who is behind http://www.miafacts.org/?

Sampley and Kiley were behind &lt;a href=&quot;http://vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry&lt;/a&gt; which promoted the excellent documentary &quot;Stolen Honor: Wounds that Never Heal&quot;, which was shunned by the MSM.  

Why were Sampley and Kiley heroes four years ago (when they dared to tell the truth about John Kerry) and &quot;shameful, dishonest thieves&quot; now that they &lt;strong&gt;dare&lt;/strong&gt; to tell the truth about John McCain?

If anyone out there personally attended any of the sessions run by McCain and Kerry, I&#039;d really like to hear your input.  I trust my friend of over 17 years, who fought for our country in Vietnam and has spent over 30 years of his life (and lots of his own money) fighting for our POW-MIAs.

Funky, I know that you are a military wife.  I appreciate your husbands service.  Please don&#039;t let your military loyalty blind you from the truth about McCain.  There is a reason why George Soros has been donating to McCain for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>funky chicken on May 16, 2008 at 10:05 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Ok, so who is behind <a href="http://www.miafacts.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.miafacts.org/</a>?</p>
<p>Sampley and Kiley were behind <a href="http://vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/" rel="nofollow">Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry</a> which promoted the excellent documentary &#8220;Stolen Honor: Wounds that Never Heal&#8221;, which was shunned by the MSM.  </p>
<p>Why were Sampley and Kiley heroes four years ago (when they dared to tell the truth about John Kerry) and &#8220;shameful, dishonest thieves&#8221; now that they <strong>dare</strong> to tell the truth about John McCain?</p>
<p>If anyone out there personally attended any of the sessions run by McCain and Kerry, I&#8217;d really like to hear your input.  I trust my friend of over 17 years, who fought for our country in Vietnam and has spent over 30 years of his life (and lots of his own money) fighting for our POW-MIAs.</p>
<p>Funky, I know that you are a military wife.  I appreciate your husbands service.  Please don&#8217;t let your military loyalty blind you from the truth about McCain.  There is a reason why George Soros has been donating to McCain for years.</p>
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		<title>By: jim m</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/14/nyt-mccain-sealed-away-from-the-lessons-of-vietnam/comment-page-2/#comment-1129680</link>
		<dc:creator>jim m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;McCain:  Folding and failing under pressure for 40 years.&quot;

New campaign slogan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;McCain:  Folding and failing under pressure for 40 years.&#8221;</p>
<p>New campaign slogan.</p>
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		<title>By: funky chicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>funky chicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point is about the Sampley, Kiley, etc info that gets posted again and again, with not a single reproachful comment by the site administrators.

fossten, you are a nasty person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is about the Sampley, Kiley, etc info that gets posted again and again, with not a single reproachful comment by the site administrators.</p>
<p>fossten, you are a nasty person.</p>
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		<title>By: funky chicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>funky chicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I hate it when people spout off about the Service Academies like they know what they’re talking about.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;1). Graduated 5th from the bottom in a class of 899at the US Naval Academy; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not to put too fine a point on it, but where in the order of merit did you graduate in your Service Academy class? I was in the mid 900s in mine. After graduation, both the person at the top and the bottom of the order of merit are called the same thing: Lieutenant (or Ensign).

&lt;blockquote&gt;2). Received about 100 demerits a year at the Academy;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A quadruple Centurion…and still allowed to graduate. As a matter of fact, that IS impressive.

&lt;blockquote&gt;3). Even then did not take well to those of higher rank arbitrarily wielding power over him – “It was bullshit, and I resented the hell out of it”;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;When power is wielded arbitrarily, especially by classmates, it is BS.&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;4). Was famous for organizing off-Academy activities; one classmate said that “being on liberty with John McCain was like being in a train wreck”;&lt;/blockquote&gt;…which only explains where the 400 demerits came from.

James on May 15, 2008 at 3:00 PM

good stuff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I hate it when people spout off about the Service Academies like they know what they’re talking about.</p>
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<blockquote><p>1). Graduated 5th from the bottom in a class of 899at the US Naval Academy; </p></blockquote>
<p>Not to put too fine a point on it, but where in the order of merit did you graduate in your Service Academy class? I was in the mid 900s in mine. After graduation, both the person at the top and the bottom of the order of merit are called the same thing: Lieutenant (or Ensign).</p>
<blockquote><p>2). Received about 100 demerits a year at the Academy;</p></blockquote>
<p>A quadruple Centurion…and still allowed to graduate. As a matter of fact, that IS impressive.</p>
<blockquote><p>3). Even then did not take well to those of higher rank arbitrarily wielding power over him – “It was bullshit, and I resented the hell out of it”;</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>When power is wielded arbitrarily, especially by classmates, it is BS.</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>4). Was famous for organizing off-Academy activities; one classmate said that “being on liberty with John McCain was like being in a train wreck”;</p></blockquote>
<p>…which only explains where the 400 demerits came from.</p>
<p>James on May 15, 2008 at 3:00 PM</p>
<p>good stuff</p>
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		<title>By: DrSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funky, you&#039;re not alone.  Please read my posts.  The Huckabee worshipers are trucking in these disgusting insinuations.  The Communist infiltration stuff is aimed squarely at McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funky, you&#8217;re not alone.  Please read my posts.  The Huckabee worshipers are trucking in these disgusting insinuations.  The Communist infiltration stuff is aimed squarely at McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: fossten</title>
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		<dc:creator>fossten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And it is a major stain on the administrators of this site that I am the only person who comes on to counter slanderous accusations against McCain, made by scumbags who defraud grieving military dependents for a living.

Sampley, Kiley, Smith, Herndon and the rest are shameful, dishonest theives who prey on traumatized people.

Shame on you Ed, Allah, and Malkin.

funky chicken on May 16, 2008 at 10:08 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;1.  It&#039;s not slander, it&#039;s libel.
2.  This isn&#039;t a media outlet, it&#039;s an opinion forum, so it isn&#039;t libel.
3.  You aren&#039;t a martyr.
4.  I don&#039;t give a crap about their opinions either, but get over yourself a little bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And it is a major stain on the administrators of this site that I am the only person who comes on to counter slanderous accusations against McCain, made by scumbags who defraud grieving military dependents for a living.</p>
<p>Sampley, Kiley, Smith, Herndon and the rest are shameful, dishonest theives who prey on traumatized people.</p>
<p>Shame on you Ed, Allah, and Malkin.</p>
<p>funky chicken on May 16, 2008 at 10:08 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>1.  It&#8217;s not slander, it&#8217;s libel.<br />
2.  This isn&#8217;t a media outlet, it&#8217;s an opinion forum, so it isn&#8217;t libel.<br />
3.  You aren&#8217;t a martyr.<br />
4.  I don&#8217;t give a crap about their opinions either, but get over yourself a little bit.</p>
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		<title>By: funky chicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>funky chicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it is a major stain on the administrators of this site that I am the only person who comes on to counter slanderous accusations against McCain, made by scumbags who defraud grieving military dependents for a living.

Sampley, Kiley, Smith, Herndon and the rest are shameful, dishonest theives who prey on traumatized people.

Shame on you Ed, Allah, and Malkin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it is a major stain on the administrators of this site that I am the only person who comes on to counter slanderous accusations against McCain, made by scumbags who defraud grieving military dependents for a living.</p>
<p>Sampley, Kiley, Smith, Herndon and the rest are shameful, dishonest theives who prey on traumatized people.</p>
<p>Shame on you Ed, Allah, and Malkin.</p>
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		<title>By: funky chicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>funky chicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh  If anybody wants actual truth about McCain, and how he is not and enemy agent (for whom?  Hanoi?)  Sweet Jesus..

http://www.miafacts.org/

http://www.miafacts.org/mccain.htm

&lt;blockquote&gt;Here they come again -- May 2008.
Beginning in early March 2008, a website titled &quot;Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain&quot; appeared on the WWW.  The site contains a collection of attacks on John McCain.  As McCain moved to cement the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, the site added more and more attacks on McCain.  Briefly stated, the site is bullshit.  The website, &quot;Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain&quot; is the creation of Ted Sampley from Kinston, NC.  Sampley is assisted by another individual, Jerry Kiley, and the bills are being paid by rightwingnut and former member of Congress, John LeBoutillier.  This is a long and twisted tale.  To fully understand why Sampley is attacking McCain, you need to start by reading this article after which you need to read the articles linked to this one. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.miafacts.org/menupg.htm#hendon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh  If anybody wants actual truth about McCain, and how he is not and enemy agent (for whom?  Hanoi?)  Sweet Jesus..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.miafacts.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.miafacts.org/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.miafacts.org/mccain.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.miafacts.org/mccain.htm</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Here they come again &#8212; May 2008.<br />
Beginning in early March 2008, a website titled &#8220;Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain&#8221; appeared on the WWW.  The site contains a collection of attacks on John McCain.  As McCain moved to cement the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, the site added more and more attacks on McCain.  Briefly stated, the site is bullshit.  The website, &#8220;Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain&#8221; is the creation of Ted Sampley from Kinston, NC.  Sampley is assisted by another individual, Jerry Kiley, and the bills are being paid by rightwingnut and former member of Congress, John LeBoutillier.  This is a long and twisted tale.  To fully understand why Sampley is attacking McCain, you need to start by reading this article after which you need to read the articles linked to this one. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.miafacts.org/menupg.htm#hendon" rel="nofollow">http://www.miafacts.org/menupg.htm#hendon</a></p>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;  410 of 489 people found the following review helpful: 
&lt;strong&gt;Don&#039;t listen to the Publisher&#039;s Weekly review of this book!!&lt;/strong&gt;, November 7, 2007 
By  R. Smith (Crown Point, IN) 
     

This book is very well written, using facts. Publishers Weekly&#039;s review of the book tries to deflect the import of this book by claiming that it is common knowledge that McCarthy was right about the inroads Communism had made into the U.S. government. The fact that McCarthy is still today called by Publishers Weekly &quot;the egregious scourge&quot; proves that what they say is not true. PW goes so far as to lump Evan&#039;s into a category of conspiracy theorist himself. 

Buy the book and don&#039;t trust Publishers Weekly. They are on the side of the American Communist movement. 
You will get a real history lesson that is very pertinent today, where the liberal media is seeking to rewrite history to try to convince the masses that &quot;evil is good&quot; and &quot;good is evil&quot;.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>  410 of 489 people found the following review helpful:<br />
<strong>Don&#8217;t listen to the Publisher&#8217;s Weekly review of this book!!</strong>, November 7, 2007<br />
By  R. Smith (Crown Point, IN) </p>
<p>This book is very well written, using facts. Publishers Weekly&#8217;s review of the book tries to deflect the import of this book by claiming that it is common knowledge that McCarthy was right about the inroads Communism had made into the U.S. government. The fact that McCarthy is still today called by Publishers Weekly &#8220;the egregious scourge&#8221; proves that what they say is not true. PW goes so far as to lump Evan&#8217;s into a category of conspiracy theorist himself. </p>
<p>Buy the book and don&#8217;t trust Publishers Weekly. They are on the side of the American Communist movement.<br />
You will get a real history lesson that is very pertinent today, where the liberal media is seeking to rewrite history to try to convince the masses that &#8220;evil is good&#8221; and &#8220;good is evil&#8221;.  </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Drawing on primary sources—including never-before-published government records and FBI files, as well as recent research gleaned from Soviet archives and intercepted transmissions between Moscow spymasters and their agents in the United States—Evans presents irrefutable evidence of a relentless Communist drive to penetrate our government, influence its policies, and steal its secrets. Most shocking of all, he shows that U.S. officials supposedly guarding against this danger not only let it happen but actively covered up the penetration. All of this was precisely as Joe McCarthy contended.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Drawing on primary sources—including never-before-published government records and FBI files, as well as recent research gleaned from Soviet archives and intercepted transmissions between Moscow spymasters and their agents in the United States—Evans presents irrefutable evidence of a relentless Communist drive to penetrate our government, influence its policies, and steal its secrets. Most shocking of all, he shows that U.S. officials supposedly guarding against this danger not only let it happen but actively covered up the penetration. All of this was precisely as Joe McCarthy contended.
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-Senator-McCarthy-Americas/dp/140008105X/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Blacklisted by History&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America&#039;s Enemies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Blacklisted-History-Senator-McCarthy-Americas/dp/140008105X/" rel="nofollow"><strong>Blacklisted by History</strong></a>: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America&#8217;s Enemies</p>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Careful whom you worship, Red Pill. I think it might be a man.

DrSteve on May 16, 2008 at 9:23 AM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&amp;chapter=4&amp;verse=10&amp;version=50&amp;context=verse&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Matthew 4:10 &lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Careful whom you worship, Red Pill. I think it might be a man.</p>
<p>DrSteve on May 16, 2008 at 9:23 AM
</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>
Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&amp;chapter=4&amp;verse=10&amp;version=50&amp;context=verse" rel="nofollow">Matthew 4:10 </a>
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