Mark Levin to GOP candidates: Cut ties with McCain and the RNC and run as conservatives
posted at 8:41 pm on May 14, 2008 by Allahpundit
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It won’t do any good. At this point, who would believe them?
Look on the bright side: It only took six years to get from the Watergate wipeout to Reagan. What could go wrong?
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Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Sounds pretty T.C. to me.
VolMagic on May 15, 2008 at 12:30 AM
I feel very strongly about defending the Republic, it is the focus of my life in-fact, after the defense of my family.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:30 AM
Squid Snark, I came up with a new cheer for you…
Obama sucks, he really really sucks!
Vote McCain because his name is not Hussein!
Yay!
I know, I know, you guys don’t like all that politics of personal destruction, but you have to admit, the rhyming of ‘McCain’ and ‘Hussein’ couldn’t be avoided forever. I mean, if I didn’t put it out there, somebody else would have. And you gotta face facts man. You’re lacking a bit in the creativity department. ‘Rush is stupid! Levin is stupid! Anyone who doesn’t vote for McCain is stupid!’ I mean, if you’re going to insult someone, at least of the common decency to do it with some panache. (that means, flamboyance) That’s why I do cheers for you guys…it amuses me, and it gives your substandard talking points a fresh coat of paint. No need to thank me. In the meantime, you could try coming up with better arguments in favor of your candidate…..then again, maybe not. All together now: Obama sucks…he’ll kill us all! Vote McCain or the Mullahs will take over the world!
austinnelly on May 15, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Which is why you rabidly defend an open borders candidate. Yeah, ok. Right there with you pal. Barf.
austinnelly on May 15, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:25 AM
You seem to disagree with their position, so you must have a definition of “true conservative” that you would gladly wear?
What is it?
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Not old enough, for starters.
doubleplusundead on May 15, 2008 at 12:32 AM
no need for all the junk, the center will no doubt reject the extremist Obama.
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:33 AM
you should be sleeping then.. :)
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:33 AM
The biggest con in the U.S. is that the illegals furnish cheap labor. Welfare, overflowing emergency rooms, high insurance rates, high school taxes {Bi-lingual teachers}, crowded schools, T.B. and other previously irradicated deseases, crime, traffic conjestion, identity theft, communcation problems, paying little or no taxes.And say it, both of my daughter in-laws are Mexicans here legally and they feel the same way that I feel about the problem only more so.
Johan Klaus on May 15, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Johan, it has penetrated your mind that I agree with you? Right?
thuja on May 15, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Mark Levin,
1) It’s idiotic to say McCain is Gerald Ford. McCain is much more conservative than Ford.
2) GOP candidates have been losing because the GOP-controlled Congress was too big-spending.
3) McCain is a crusader against big spending. Candidates should ride hide cost-cutting coattails to victory.
jgapinoy on May 15, 2008 at 12:35 AM
My brain is running at 1/2 capacity being that it is late. However I do not think that people who dont vote for McCain are stupid, any more than the folks who accuse me of being stupid for supporting him.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Being that I am a small government proponent, I dont see how I could vote for all those T.C.’s out there who you heard not a peep from as our budget got larger and larger.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:24 AM
NEWS flash there are not very many T>C as you call them in office and certainly none in the leadership positions. All that spending was done by moderates or those that left their ideals at the door because they thought they could buy our votes. no not many conservatives left in Washington. In fact I haven’t seen one in a long time possibly 20years. The people in office TALK a good game but they vote as moderates.
But the GWOT is my main issue given my occupation, so there in only one choice in November.
Yeah after 7 years the moderate/liberal Bush has not been able to pacify one little shithole country with the greatest army on earth because he is a moderate (don’t want to offend their culture or nothing you know, don’t want to make moral judgements you know, don’t want to place our beliefs in their government documents you know) Bush is the Rodeny King of warfare…can’t we all just get… along…
No I cant because it is just more hyperbole against those of us who dont fall into your little mold.
Point of order when trying to win people to your side insulting them is not a good debating tool. Soo..you want small government, less spending but your a moderate…how’s that working for you…9Trillion in debt from the moderates.
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:35 AM
I was not trying to insult anyone by calling them a moderate. A lot of people that I know are proud of being moderates.
However, whatever the label, I simply do not agree with many of the views of the people-who-are-not-as-conservative-as-I-am, and since they obviously control much of the Republican party (and have for years!) I have no reason to be a part of the party any more.
doubleplusundead,
If there are conservatives on the ticket that inspire me to vote, I will. If that happens, I just won’t vote for President.
Given my stance, if the candidates in my area took Levin’s advice, they would be much more likely to get my vote.
Jodella on May 15, 2008 at 12:36 AM
I do not defend an open borders position, and I do not think that McCain will be an open borders president…
My job is the defense of the Republic, so I will stick with my previous statement.
BTW, your stupid too (j/k) :)
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Americans just need to figure out which candidate they would feel better about blaming for the next four years because neither has a snowballs chance in hell of any kind of national harmony.
Both has absolutely zero respect for international boundaries and opposite that alone is most of America.
Beyond that the massive imputes needed to create a successful new Conservative party is near nil and the RNC counts on our apathy to help slow down the liberal crocodile now taking them down one by one.
Expect the RNC to take the path of least resistance, like always.
Speakup on May 15, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Without sovereignty, there will not be a Republic.
Johan Klaus on May 15, 2008 at 12:39 AM
I don’t think that people who sit home or vote 3rd party out of spite are “stupid”, just overly emotional, and not thinking logically like conservatives are supposed to.
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Im not a moderate so……
Its not working out so good, since all the T.C.’s creamed their jeans over Bush in 2000, I assumed he was one back then when I sucked it up and voted for him.
The movement conservatives have had the luxury of armchair quaterbacking this whole time, so I aint buying your argument.
BTW, I have no intention of winning you over.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:41 AM
Just agreeing with you and making a point to other posters at the same time.
Johan Klaus on May 15, 2008 at 12:42 AM
1. believe in states rights
2. Strict Constructionism
3. Responsible spending
4. Low taxes
5. Aggresive foreign policy
6. having the strongest military in the world
7. libertarian ideals about personal choices
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:28 AM
So basically you think of TC as religious zealots? or racist xenophobes? Since most of what is above is the definition of conservative. and if you believe in strict constructism, states rights and aggresive forgien policy you have to by defintion believe in strong borders. The army was formed to protect the boarders without boarders there is no reason for an army.
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:42 AM
There ya go!
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Depends on what you mean by “logical.”
It seems logical to me that massive defeat in 2008 will force the GOP to re-examine itself and see what went wrong. They will realize thier out of control spending, weak on soveriegnity, entitlement programing agenda will not allow them to continue in power. They will begin to field conservative candidates, and we will vote for them again in 2010 and 2012.
VolMagic on May 15, 2008 at 12:43 AM
I would think the Navy would be more concerned about boarders
But I do believe in strong borders, we didnt do it like we should after Reagans amnesty.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:44 AM
Yeah, except that the vaunted center doesn’t pay the bills and volunteer. McCain’s learning that the hard way.
Look at the difference, Obama has a large army of volunteers who would crawl over a mile of rusty nails and broken glass to sell their organs to harvesters if he needed the funds. McCain can’t get over 200 bloggers to join his friends list. Like it or not, organization and funding matter, and McCain is at a huge disadvantage because he’s pissed off all the people who would traditionallydo all that.
doubleplusundead on May 15, 2008 at 12:46 AM
since all the T.C.’s creamed their jeans over Bush in 2000, I assumed he was one back then when I sucked it up and voted for him.
Squid Shark
I did not cream my jeans in fact I didn’t even vote for him in 2000. Knew he was bad from the start. I did have to vote for him in 2004 because Kerry would have been worse.
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Name calling, are we?
Johan Klaus on May 15, 2008 at 12:46 AM
You’re a right wing nut job! /sarc
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 12:48 AM
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:44 AM
But we will this time? One of Reagans mistakes was signing that dam bill. Kennedy suckered d him on that one but I think he wanted to be suckered.
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:48 AM
This is idiotic. If Republicans want to start winning elections again then they need to do two things.
1 - Tell us what they intend to do to get back to their conservative roots
2 - Do it
Their current plan is
1 - Tell us anything they think will get them elected
2 - Become involved in a sex scandal
3 - Spend all our money faster than Rosie O’Donnell and Micheal Moore on a date at a Dunkin’ Donuts
Benaiah on May 15, 2008 at 12:48 AM
It was a joke based on a previous post, sorry you dont know internet abbreviations.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:49 AM
VolMagic on May 15, 2008 at 12:43 AM
Nay they will think that they didn’t spend enough of the taxpayers money on pork.
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:49 AM
Benaiah on May 15, 2008 at 12:48 AM
Winner!
And on that note I’ll go to sleep with a smile on my face. G’night all.
VolMagic on May 15, 2008 at 12:50 AM
There are extenuating circumstances behind this phenomena. Its what we like to call “The great California Invasion”. Many western states, including mine, have been invaded by millions of Californians escaping the oppressive economy of the Peoples Democratic Republic of California. The funny yet tragic thing is; they move here and immediately begin turning the place into California lite. They vote in liberals and turn the whole community on its ear when they start insisting on socialist agendas. Best case in point. Rep. Salzaar. He was elected in historically a very conservative district. Why? The California invasion. Its for real and it sucks.
Sammy316 on May 15, 2008 at 12:51 AM
mmmm dunkin donuts dreamin :)
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Benaiah on May 15, 2008 at 12:48 AM
Thanks I needed a good laugh. dunkin doughnuts priceless..
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Again, need to think logically.. what is the point of 2010 or 2012 when Obama will do Amnesty in the first 100 days without ANY border security with a continuing flood of illegals?
Not to mention set us back 20-25 years with liberal Judges(that would hurts us in who knows how many ways)
Higher taxes though the roof.. a demoralized and weaker military
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:52 AM
I apologize, as my comment was inappropriately snide. It’s just too easy to misunderstand other’s intent and feelings when all you have is text. Hell, it is too easy misunderstand others when you are face to face.
thuja on May 15, 2008 at 12:52 AM
Well kids, its been fun, but I think my wife is going to kill be if I dont hit the hay.
gdnight
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:52 AM
A joke about my age from a guy who watches Naruto…now that’s funny!
That’s all I want.
doubleplusundead on May 15, 2008 at 12:53 AM
I cannot understand the books or newspapers that are written now, because of the bad grammar and I am much too old to try to understand the internet launguage. Learning English was hard enough.
Johan Klaus on May 15, 2008 at 12:56 AM
I think that you are probably the same as me..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republitarianism
(Neolibertarian/Republitarian)
Some libertarian celebrities that fit into this neolibertarian category include talk radio personalities Larry Elder, Neal Boortz, and comedian Dennis Miller.
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:56 AM
Neal is my hero.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:57 AM
So McCain is a neolibertarian?
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 12:59 AM
Not likely, hes more Neoconservative, but with better sense than the others.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 1:00 AM
I’m only 1 year to young to be POTUS(Kage)..
I could run for any other office..
BTW, Naruto Rules.. So does Bleach and a few other Anime’s that i just started watching! >;D
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:00 AM
So in the end, a few questions come up. I’m not talking about this election. This election has three choices, all equally bad. The only choice this election is which one you consider most survivable. I’m talking about next election, and those coming after.
The first has been asked. Has the party leadership (either one) changed to the point where their vision doesn’t fit with that of their constituents? I would say yes for both Rep & Dem.
The second is personal. Do you stick around and try to change from within, or do you attempt to find others of your vision and form a new party? I’m not talking about the Pauls or Perots of the world - basically shots in the dark. I mean something that actually resonates with the majority of Americans with common sense. Either path must be proceeded upon with the understanding that it may take years to form positive results. Additionally you must recognize when and if that path is not working and be prepared to try something else. Personally I feel that with few exceptions, changing the party from within has become a useless endeavour. Once again, everyone must decide that for themselves.
The last is simple and fits whichever way you answer the previous. Someone else said this much better than I could -
In the end, that will determine your success or failure.
Suihei Deloi on May 15, 2008 at 1:01 AM
3 more years and I am running for State Senate.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 1:01 AM
I like Elder and Miller(Hes wicked funny as long as he stays away from my football) >:D
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:02 AM
Cool. :)
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:04 AM
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 1:00 AM
I thought you went to bed.
McCain has more sense than the other neoconservatives?
On which issue:
1. believe in states rights
2. Strict Constructionism
3. Responsible spending
4. Low taxes
5. Aggresive foreign policy
6. having the strongest military in the world
7. libertarian ideals about personal choices
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 1:05 AM
McCain
Ban on same-sex marriage is unRepublican; leave it to states. (Nov 2006)
Voted NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:14 AM
So this is about same sex marriage? That’s what makes McCain have more “sense” than the “other” neoconservatives.
Anything else?
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 1:17 AM
It is simple; require the party to follow the constution. Ninty percent of what the government does is un-constitutional
Johan Klaus on May 15, 2008 at 1:20 AM
“Ban on same-sex marriage is unRepublican; leave it to states.”
Chakra-
It is not “un” Republican to seek a constitutional ammendment. That makes no “sense”.
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 1:20 AM
Constitution. Fingers faster than brain.
Johan Klaus on May 15, 2008 at 1:27 AM
3. Responsible spending(If GWB IS a Neocon.. )
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:29 AM
that is not needed at this time, also that is not the role of the govt. IMHO.
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:33 AM
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:29 AM
Congress is responsible for spending. But, no doubt, veto pen has a lot of dust on it.
I make no apologies for GWB, but it can be argued that Congress held the war hostage for pork barrel spending deals (but you won’t find me arguing it!:))
Anyway, philosophically, I don’t believe responsible spending is a distinction between “neoconservative” and “McCain’s better sense neoconservatism”.
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 1:36 AM
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:33 AM
But it is not “un” Republican. And there are/were reasons to consider the ammendment process, considering the activism of the courts.
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 1:39 AM
I agree with Rudy on this, watch about 3:20 in or just watch the whole clip has Paul, Romney and Rudy’s answer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK5pAbRXj_4
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:39 AM
How long has McCain been try to fight the spending?(forever, along with Tom Coburn as long has he has been in there)
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:42 AM
It absolutely is the role of the government to ammend the Constitution.
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 1:42 AM
This coming from the guy who blamed the midterm loss on the Republican voters rather than the party.
V15J on May 15, 2008 at 1:44 AM
How long has McCain been try to fight the spending?(forever, along with Tom Coburn as long has he has been in there)
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:42 AM
I still see no distinctive difference between “responsible spending” and “neoconservatism”.
So, so far, this whole thing is about changing the definition of marriage?
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 1:45 AM
I’m sorry, I didn’t watch it (I will), but I am aware of the reasoning for not needing an ammendment.
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 1:48 AM
Oh yea to Amend the Constitution, I just don’t think that it’s needed at this time you only have Mitt’s state thats out of line.
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:50 AM
It’s hard to defend McCain.
Just admit it.
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 1:55 AM
Oh also the religious component, that is pretty much in your face with the neoconservative variant..
the other not so much, as Goldwater warned us about.. he has some wicked quotes about it look them up.
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 1:56 AM
Not my first day chopping wood…
What “religious component”?
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 2:02 AM
Chakra-
Please quote Goldwater on changing the definition of marriage, if you will…
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Ummm… how many stories have you read about the “religious right”
Thats not bad but to be beholden to these “groups” this is a Political party not a religious organization, thats what they need to understand.
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 2:05 AM
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 2:05 AM
So…what distinguishes you from the “others” is religious? Do I understand you correctly?
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 2:07 AM
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 2:07 AM
Again, specifically…
what religious component?
Or should we just avoid the question? (No problem if you do, I mean no ill will)
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 2:09 AM
I’m Baptist myself, however I do not feel like my Religion should effect my decisions on law or legislation, and impose those beliefs or values onto others.
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 2:10 AM
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 2:07 AM
What’s that got to do with changing the legal definition of marriage?
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 2:10 AM
I consider myself Republitarian/(I would consider it a Federalist which is easier described, let the issues be worked out at the state level)
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 2:13 AM
I know your level of intelligence is higher than this. And I know I don’t need to remind you that religion has always played the most fundemental role in law.
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 2:15 AM
alright, no need to the stupid remarks. ;)
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 2:22 AM
f-IT DO IT LIVE!(Thanks O’Reilly) >:D
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 2:28 AM
Sorry, that was bad form, but I just couldn’t resist.
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 2:30 AM
Hmmm…nothing here about changing the legal definition of marriage.
Better keep looking…
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 2:34 AM
Screw you Levin, we now have a Maverick in charge. You can take you dribble and back Bob Barr and the rest of the hacks who don’t understand that Moderates own the Republican party, not you dinosaurs of the “conservative movement”. I’m back.
THE CHOSEN ONE on May 15, 2008 at 2:36 AM
I’m back.
THE CHOSEN ONE on May 15, 2008 at 2:36 AM
I’m gone.
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 2:37 AM
Okay, I’ll admit it. You’re right.
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 2:42 AM
Listen to Newt.
I prefer a reform from within rather than a total “cut and run” approach that Levin suggests.
PolitiNOOB on May 15, 2008 at 2:43 AM
Thanks to Operation Chaos, Rush got it right. As much as he loathes the Maverick, he knows with the Libs he gets nothing. Now, he’ll get fiscal restraint, pro- life, Victory in Iraq, the end of benchmarks, green technology as a profiting, job creating industry for American Workers, and…………NOT AN ELITIST ANGRY BLACK GUY WHO’S WIFE SUCKS AND PRAYS WITH A PASTOR WHO HATES AMERICA. aHHHHHH……I love the smell of victory in the morning.
THE CHOSEN ONE on May 15, 2008 at 2:49 AM
Slick. Karl would be proud…
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 3:02 AM
No Amendment is needed only Mitts state has stepped out of line, the religious component goes well beyond gay marriage, and into abortion and other issues that I think should be left up to the states(Yes, I believe Roe should be overturned and then the States can then fashion laws based on what that State Legislature or the people vote on restricting, limiting or even outlawing it)
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 3:11 AM
Sorry I’m late to this discussion…
But it doesn’t really matter, because it is the same old arguments from the same old people (plus a few names with which I am not familiar).
Nobody is going to change anyone’s mind about McCain; all the negative information about him has been presented, and ignored by his supporters…. Just like the negative stuff on Obama is ignored by his supporters.
Levin’s idea is nothing new either… we have been discussing much the same ideas here and at FR for a year or more…. ( and some of us since the ‘Dole-drums’ set in in 1996) ….
It just ‘ain’t a gonna happen’ because them thar Mediocrats™ are jest too skeered of Obamallary’ to think of the long term consequences of their choices.
They tell us that conservatism is dead, and that Mediocracy™ is the new Conservativism.
Well, they may be right; I doubt it, but I concede the possibility that America has finally been so dumbed-down that mediocracy is the best we can hope for forevermore.
But you know what? I wish there was a competent, viable political machine for us to go to; with leaders who can actually express conservative values, present them to the voters and GIVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE A CHOICE. A choice that they no longer have with the leadership of the Republican party in general touting policies that the last half way decent Democrat President, JFK would have considered way too liberal for the survival of the country.
If indeed the electorate doesn’t want the things Conservatism brings, I could live with that decision….. But we will never know, because the ‘powers that be’ have decided that they will not support anything that reaches any higher than mediocrity.
Just a couple of days ago, I watched a movie : Harrison Bergeron. A Showtime movie adaptation of a Kurt Vonnegut short story. It was very thought provoking: Mediocrity was a legal requirement. Not as old as ‘Atlas Shrugged’; nonetheless, a very accurate dramatization of what is happening today. Very thought provoking, but so close to the truth that it was very depressing.
LegendHasIt on May 15, 2008 at 3:26 AM
Those of us who have been around for a while, those of us who have been paying attention for decades have tried that for 20-30 years.
And no doubt, fifty years ago the same advice was given to my elders who were disgruntled at the increasing drift of America into socialism and stupidity in general?
How many more
decadescenturies do you think it will take for the leftward drift (that has turned into a run) to slow down? Other than a couple of conservative ‘bumps in the road’ that managed to get elected DESPITE the efforts of the Mediocrat™ machine, the leftward drift has only gathered speed.Personally, I think that we are about 6 months away from the point of no return…. I can see the cliff up ahead, the brake lines have been cut, and the only hope is to throw a bootleggers turn and hope for the best.
LegendHasIt on May 15, 2008 at 3:41 AM
im late to the party as usual. i listen to levin, rush, war room, even glenn beck here and there. i refuse to vote for MCcain because of my personal beliefs.
my vote for the candidate who represents me is what America is about. McCain fails on several levels.
ive been voting for the lesser of the evils since daddy Bush and i refuse to continue to do so. as we can all see the sharp left turn weve made in the past 20 years.
we need another Reagan to step up. No he wasnt perfect but i dont believe he sacrificed core party principle to get elected or pandered to any one on the left or center in 1980. google his 1st inagural speech. how fitting it would be today to have someone stand up with the same charisma and conviction and tell the AMerican people the truth.
palefaced on May 15, 2008 at 5:41 AM
oddly enough Reagans first inagural speech would fit well in. todays climate of politics and washington antics.
for those of you who believe Reagan has been elevated to “something he never really was” all i can say is…wow.
given the state of the union he inherited and at the same time brought communism to its knees. no easy task.
i say we need a national monument in DC for this man.
palefaced on May 15, 2008 at 5:51 AM
And amnesty.
Johan Klaus on May 15, 2008 at 6:07 AM
the economy, the unnesesary war with Iraq,
Incompetence, corruption, pissing on the constitution, etc
When you will learn that, may be then GOP will be back in power
sashal on May 15, 2008 at 6:40 AM
Good advice … McAmnesty is not worth saving.
tarpon on May 15, 2008 at 7:05 AM
Saw Bob Barr on Glen Beck last night… I will be taking a long look at him this week. The libertarian party may be the most conservative now. Levin may be right. I don’t believe in supporting or giving money to people who don’t represent me or what’s best for this country. They are all corrupt. Basiclly McCains strategy is “B…B… B… but Obama’s much worse than me!” And you all have an orgasm and trip over yourselves to vote for him. Didn’t the Dems prove that you lose election by running against the other candidate rather than on what they, themselves stand for? So what does Mavrick stand for? (other than Mavrick?)
Exit question for the McCain Groupies? Any comment on why McCain got 1/3rd of the vote in WV (and he was the only one running!!!)? In fact Rudy finished .2 points outside the margin of error (29 pts to McCain’s 33). Voting’s a pain… there is a large number who are going out to the polls to register their “protest”. It will not be enough.
The RNC is NOT getting the message (or my money). Wine all you want about how I am “electing Obama”. I settled on voting for McCain after Fred/Rudy/Romney dropped out… BUT HE CONTINUED TO SPIT ON CONSERVATIVES! Global Warming, Polar Bears… LA RAZA! Sorry have to go clean up the blood that just shot out of my eyes.
BadBrad on May 15, 2008 at 7:38 AM
You can ask the Naderites how they feel about their vote in 2000. During the last 20 years the presidency of Bush-Clinton-Bush has been center-right. A move left in the culture is outside the scope of the POTUS.
If you feel that the last 20 years the presidency has taken the country to the left, wait for the Obama team who really believe that their mission is to make the government work for you. Even Reagan couldn’t undo the government buildup by FDR and LBJ. There is no guarantee that a 2nd Reagan a decade or two hence could uproot the government expansion that Obama implements.
dedalus on May 15, 2008 at 7:47 AM
There are 300 million people in the country. 2 of them have a chance to be sworn in in Jan 09.
dedalus on May 15, 2008 at 7:51 AM
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