Mark Levin to GOP candidates: Cut ties with McCain and the RNC and run as conservatives
posted at 8:41 pm on May 14, 2008 by Allahpundit
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It won’t do any good. At this point, who would believe them?
Look on the bright side: It only took six years to get from the Watergate wipeout to Reagan. What could go wrong?
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Ahhright. Thanks, Squid.
Weight of Glory on May 14, 2008 at 11:33 PM
When they find out that the Paulites outnumber them, they will be knocking on the door again.
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Well personally, were I in a firefight I’d rather have Ollie by on my side. He’s been there before, and since he retired from the Marines he’s made more then ten trips into Iraq to be with and interview the troops. He’s not a Green Zone Weenie. He’s not afraid to go to the battle instead of letting the battle come to him.
Vntnrse on May 14, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Man, my spelling is terrible tonight. Sorry folks, tryin’ to watch the Laker and Jazz while chatting with you fine folks…
DfDeportation on May 14, 2008 at 11:36 PM
I loved it, it is one of my favorites and I agree with every word of it.
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:36 PM
snake:
You believe everything a reporter tells you?
I will be honest about this. I am not trying to be difficult. I simply can not understand how Republicans can turn their backs on the troops. What next? Will you parrot the Democrats and say you are not turning your backs on them…you are saving them?
It makes the arguments about McCain’s lack of conservative credentials seem banal.
Terrye on May 14, 2008 at 11:36 PM
I would agree, but just because I would like him in a firefight does not mean I would let him anywhere near nuclear weapons or the apparatus of state.
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Saying our soldiers are conducting this War on Terra by using torture tactics is turning your back on our troops…
DfDeportation on May 14, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Feh, believe me, I’m not a lockstep guy either, I find a fair bit of the Nanny tendencies on vice and hang ups with teh ghey to be repellent. I’m only interested in keeping the government’s boot off our necks.
doubleplusundead on May 14, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Teddy Roosevelt certainly did not endorse illegal immigration and he urged immigrants to learn english.
Johan Klaus on May 14, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Yeah, because handing the White House to Obama will, let’s see….er, make him Commander in Chief and put him in office with strong majorities in both houses of Congress. Brilliant!
funky chicken on May 14, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Deportation:
Did McCain say that rank and file American soldiers are routinely using torture? No, he did not. The fact that he does not like waterboarding, something that has only been used three times and not for several years…does not mean he is impugning the troops.
And if you let Obama win, then you might as well replace the Statue of Liberty’s torch with a white flag.
Terrye on May 14, 2008 at 11:42 PM
But that is so yesterday Gringo. But do not worry as soon it will be back to just one language it just won’t be English this time. So aprender espanol y votar a favor de Juan!
VinyFoxy on May 14, 2008 at 11:42 PM
You sound like a good guy to be in the trenches with, nice to know ya. :)
You have the it right.
Chakra Hammer on May 14, 2008 at 11:42 PM
What makes leaders in a representative democracy different than you and I is, if they don’t decide one way or the other, nothing gets done. They can’t just sit in the corner with their teddy bear and pout. To get things done, they have to compromise. If you can’t stomach compromise, you might not be cut out for civilization. That said, there are things to go to war over, but McCain’s imperfections are certainly not one of them.
RBMN on May 14, 2008 at 11:42 PM
I was not aware that McCain was ok with immigrants not learning English, since it was a requirement in his much maligned “amnesty” plan.
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Johan:
I don’t endorse illegal immigration and I think people should learn English too.
Terrye on May 14, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Well said…
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:44 PM
could we use any more inflammatory language?
Get the hell out of my party.
Chakra Hammer on May 14, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Idea! Get McCain to grasp this concept, and tell him to quit fragging his own damn side.
This is one of my big problems with McCain, its never enough to disagree with him, he’s gotta make it as miserable as he can, he’s gotta go on Meet the Press and twist the blade. He’s gotta trash the NCGOP when he hadn’t even watched the damn commercial. Did he make a phone call and ask them to not play the commercial? No, he held a f*cking press conference!
doubleplusundead on May 14, 2008 at 11:46 PM
This is good example of political discussion–not “true conservatism” as a religious cult. Terrye and I agree in our rinoceros-ness yet we strongly disagree about illegal immigration. That’s the way politics works. And I think that’s really cool! It says we have to use our brains to work out new answers, rather than our brains being useless as all answers have already been given.
thuja on May 14, 2008 at 11:46 PM
I was not talking about McCain, I was talking about Teddy Roosevelt.
Johan Klaus on May 14, 2008 at 11:47 PM
I think we need a new purging of certain kooks alright..
Chakra Hammer on May 14, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Decent candidates wouldn’t have to cut ties with anybody. The truth is that the 3 folks who just lost the special elections were all terrible candidates. The dem party found better people to run in those elections, and it’s not a surprise that the better man won each time.
Hysterical screaming and turning against the party won’t help anything…but maybe increase Levin’s ratings among those who love his unhinged ranting style.
I have a family member who was same rank as Oliver North in the Pentagon and worked quite closely with Central America at the time. He says North is a bold faced, shameless liar (among other less kind things). This person is a staunch Republican, so it’s not political party differences that cause a personal bias either. Just FWIW.
funky chicken on May 14, 2008 at 11:47 PM
CH,
Those folks are out there. They do not like America or Americans. I’m a former moderate Democrat just letting folks kow that there are plenty of us out here. The New Direction Democrats told me “there was no more room for people like me in THEIR PARTY!” And we don’t agree with McCain or Obama on the Illegal Alien Crisis…
DfDeportation on May 14, 2008 at 11:49 PM
I know, I was debunking your implication that McCain does not share that view.
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:50 PM
I was not aware that McCain was ok with immigrants not learning English, since it was a requirement in his much maligned “amnesty” plan.
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:42 PM
You really expect me to believe that??? Pulleeeeeze…
DfDeportation on May 14, 2008 at 11:50 PM
CDS led a lot of republicans to give a respectful ear to some real nutters, and most of those nutters are the new Birchers, aka Ron Paul boosters (and now Bob Barr boosters).
They are as embarrassing as Wide Stance and Foley, with their conspiracy crank leanings.
funky chicken on May 14, 2008 at 11:50 PM
What is to disagree about illegal immigration. It is against the law.
Johan Klaus on May 14, 2008 at 11:50 PM
CDS = Clinton Derangement Syndrome of course.
funky chicken on May 14, 2008 at 11:52 PM
I know, I was debunking your implication that McCain does not share that view.
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:50 PM
You did a lousy job convincing us. The only problem is…we all know the truth…
DfDeportation on May 14, 2008 at 11:52 PM
jencab on May 14, 2008 at 10:25 PM
The leader of the RNC is Bush. If Bush was so great on the war why the hell are we still fighting it? It has taken Bush longer to pacify one country than it took FDR to pacify the world. why does Bush allow another country to kill our soldiers? Bush is the wrose liberal president we have ever had. He makes LBJ look like a tight fisted spender. I’m tired of the entire Republican party. The elites have ruined the party. they hate Reagan and all he stood for. the dems are no better probably worse but when you have to snakes trying to bite you does it really matter which finally kills you. during Reagan the rep party was the American party, the dems were the out of touch elite party. Now we have both parties out of touch. every time I think about sending money to McCain he opens his mouth. Every time I think of staying home BHO opens his. It is a sad, sad world where you have no respect for your leaders, and know in your heart that most of the elected people in washington are as stupid as Forest Gump.
Example. Senator on CNBC was talking about SPR vote. The anchor asked if we bought the oil at avg price of $24 wouldn’t it be good to sell it at $125. the Senator said that that was above his pay-grade. Do you understand what that means. the Senator doesn’t understand the concepts of profit, supply and demand, controlling the battlefront. How can we hope as a nation that our leaders will bring down prices when they have no idea what/how to do it. No imagination. Nothing. We should be selling all 700m bls of oil at $125 flooding the market causing a glut of oil on the market and pushing the price down to $60.00 then buying the crap back at $60 or at $10.00. Screw Chavez and Iran, russia, and the entire Middle east. the instablity caused by oil going from $125 to $10 will cause mass uprisings in Iran, South America and Russia. Three of our enemies destoyed from within by simply selling our oil to the highest bidder. Not only that but the rev from the sale would cause great parts of our debt to be wiped out. then once the oil SPR is depleted the gov can cite national security as a reason to drill for more oil.
unseen on May 14, 2008 at 11:53 PM
You dont need to “believe” it, learning English is a requirement of McCain-Kennedy “amnesty”
Puhllllleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaz
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:53 PM
McCain wouldn’t say about his “God’s Children” now would he??
DfDeportation on May 14, 2008 at 11:54 PM
I dont know what more you need to convince you, its in the bill, black and white.
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:54 PM
BWWAHAHAH!! “Wide Stance” D’Oh! LMAO..
Chakra Hammer on May 14, 2008 at 11:55 PM
We are all G-d’s children. If dehumanization is what helps you sleep at night, go crazy.
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Chakra Hammer on May 14, 2008 at 11:42 PM
I think that this thread has gone off on a misaligned twist. I both feel the way that I wrote, and also agree with Levin.
Levin isn’t saying, “Don’t vote for McCain” (IMHO).
He’s saying to Congressional candidates “Disassociate yourself with McCain, and run as conservatives”, which I believe is sound advice.
I think Levin will vote, and vote for McCain, if for the SCOTUS alone.
Saltysam on May 14, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I was not making an implication about McCain. I was debunking your implication that T.R. was for illegal immigration.
Johan Klaus on May 14, 2008 at 11:56 PM
You dont need to “believe” it, learning English is a requirement of McCain-Kennedy “amnesty”
Puhllllleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaz
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:53 PM
oh yeah, so is siging the disclaimer for GANG BANGERS to declare they won’t be GANGBANGING anymore which makes them eligible for one of them there “Z-VISA’S”…ha ha ha
DfDeportation on May 14, 2008 at 11:56 PM
There’s no Reagan behind the curtains, watching and waiting.
VinyFoxy is not in your party. He’s Mexico’s ‘retired’ and forgotten, also worthless president. Forget about him, or at least ignore him.
Entelechy on May 14, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I would love to see where I implied this, because I didnt.
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:58 PM
But should it be treated as a crime? I say yes. Apparently, other people think we should give a weekly cheesecake ration to those “victims”, the illegal immigrants.
thuja on May 14, 2008 at 11:58 PM
ha ha ha
DfDeportation on May 14, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Straw man…
Squid Shark on May 14, 2008 at 11:59 PM
This coming from someone who supports a guy who has been waiting for 45 years to have his finger on the trigger of nuclear missiles aimed at his torturers.
Buddahpundit on May 14, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Riiiiight, the master plan.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Illegal Aliens need to be deported. No more tax dollars for benefits to Illegal Aliens and their Anchor Babies. Entering the U.S. without being inspected by an immigration officer makes you a criminal…
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Illegal Immigration is a Crime
Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, “Improper Entry by Alien,” any citizen of any country other than the United States who:
• Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
• Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
• Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
has committed a federal crime.
Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Gotta go…talk at y’all later…
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:02 AM
I’m loving how all the McCainiacs and “moderate” Republicans are also the ones who deride Rush and other conservatives. We get it. You aren’t conservatives. You just don’t like the liberals. Well, that isn’t enough for the rest of us. We want conservatives in office, not people who are just a little better than Marxists. Yeesh.
Like I said, let the m-f-er burn. A couple of years in the wilderness will do wonders for the GOP’s focus.
VolMagic on May 15, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Illegal Aliens need to be deported
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:00 AM
No let them stay, I enjoy my wage being depressed,I enjoy my son being taught in two languages, I enjoy driving down the road and going into a third world neighborhood 5 miles from my house. It’s all good because you know labor costs too much.
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:03 AM
thuja, we should punish the employers for hiring illegal aliens. That’s the steak/meat that attracts the wasps. No fence, of any kind, will stop them from coming here, so long as that steak attracts them. The leftie/rightie politicians are all in this together, for same and different reasons.
These arshats in Washington, especially the ones on the right have had many years to wake up, and didn’t. Now they want money and votes. I wrote to Schwarzeneggers’ solicitors a few weeks ago, when they peddled for dough “go to h**l, and I helped you to get in, and to stay in”. All the righties have going for them is that they’re not the charlatans on the left. As a country we’re scr***d.
Entelechy on May 15, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Ahhhhh Millions for deportation but not one cent for the economy after they all go!
That would be a fun contract to win, I bet it will work as well as the border fence.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Yes, what should the penalty be AFTER the border is secured and a new VISA’s are implemented?
Large fine?(That would mean they are pleading guilty to the crime, the fine would be the legal restitution)
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:04 AM
I denegrate Rush because he is a loudmouth asshat, not because he is a conservative.
I love reasoned, smart conservatives like the late WFB.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:05 AM
The fence works and you OPEN BORDERS ZEALOTS know it! That’s why you fight against it so hard. And the workplace enforcement line? Spoken like all of the Anti-American reconquistas here in L.A.. They were saying the same thing until ICE came through town and was raiding these businesses. Too Funny!!!
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:07 AM
You just don’t like the liberals
VolMagic on May 15, 2008 at 12:03 AM
It’s more like they envy them. Like they wish they could say and do the things liberals do. Like if they could only get rid of these small government, low tax, strong national leaning people in their party then they could be loved too.
Liberal envy. Can you believe it?
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Levin for President!
j0 on May 15, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Reason number one I can’t get behind McCain.
doubleplusundead on May 15, 2008 at 12:07 AM
The victims of illegal immigration are the tax payers and the citizens who are victims of crimes purpetrated by the illegals. We know first hand in Texas.
Johan Klaus on May 15, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Yeah, I am an open border zealot…
I want the border closed for now until we sort this out at home. I just disagree with what to do with the one already here.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:09 AM
It’s more like they envy them. Like they wish they could say and do the things liberals do. Like if they could only get rid of these small government, low tax, strong national leaning people in their party then they could be loved too.
Liberal envy. Can you believe it?
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:07 AM
ha ha ha Yeah, those bastards! Can’t we shut them up? Maybe somethin’ like the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE will work on them…
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:09 AM
What a stupid and arrogant analysis, but it is what I have come to expect from T.C.’s
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM
I guess that’s where we disagree. I’d let him control the football. He’s been there before and I would not fear to allow him there again. I would fear him far less then I would fear McCain in fact. What I have seen tells me that Lt. Col. North is a true conservative, not a “stick my thumb in the eye of the conservative wing of the party” person like McCain. Of course that is only my opinion, and we all know what opinions are like…we all have one and they all smell…
Vntnrse on May 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM
JK,
We know here in L.A. as well…
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM
*shudder*
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Nothing can happen until the border is secured first, unless a Democrat gets in office then we get Amnesty and NO Border Security and more illegals after the Amnesty.
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM
What’s a T.C.?
VolMagic on May 15, 2008 at 12:12 AM
He has a strong theocratic/holy war streak that I dont much care for.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:12 AM
Remember how we were told by the GOP elites that the fence wouldn’t work while they were touting how effective the walls the Israelis made were at stopping Palestinian terrorists? What a bunch of shameless liars. I’ll vote downticket, but I’ll be writing in Zombie Reagan unless Maverick wants to compromise in conservatives’ favor for once.
doubleplusundead on May 15, 2008 at 12:12 AM
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM
What is a true moderate?
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 12:13 AM
*shudder*
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Well, I don’t kow about Levin being president, but, we could use him back in the Attorney Generals office…
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:13 AM
Maybe somethin’ like the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE will work on them…
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:09 AM
If not for the internet I would be worried about it.
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:13 AM
The self-anointed, holier than thou, “true” conservatives.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:13 AM
The moderates on this thread have just about convinced me not to vote for McCain. I agree with them and McCain on so very little. Therefore, in this “representative government” I have no one to represent my views. Why should I even vote then? I am tired of holding my nose when I go into the voting booth. I want someone I can feel inspired by and that I can at least hope he will make positive changes, not negative.
As of right now, I don’t think I will vote come November. I no longer have a party to represent me, so there really isn’t a point.
Jodella on May 15, 2008 at 12:14 AM
I dont know, I am not a moderate, that would imply I have no strongly held views. It is a false label applied to those who do not suscribe to the “pre-approved” package.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:13 AM
K then,
How do you define yourself as a conservative? A quick top picks is all I need.
VolMagic on May 15, 2008 at 12:15 AM
If not for the internet I would be worried about it.
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:13 AM
Rest assured, Booooosh and Pelosi have been tryin’ to crack down on the Internet users. Big Brother is watching you…
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Not holier than thou, just better than you. Shake those pom poms cheerleader. You’re not impressing me tonight.
austinnelly on May 15, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Jodella on May 15, 2008 at 12:14 AM
REVOLUTION TIME!!!
Remember, dissent is the highest form of patriotism there is!!!111!eleventy!1!
VolMagic on May 15, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM
With comebacks like that you prove yourself useless.
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Rudy for A.G.
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:16 AM
I am sorry you feel that way, I held my nose and voted for GW and Jeb twice here in Florida, even though I was not on the train. I knew the score and I knew the alternative.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:15 AM
What is the “package” that makes you a true conservative?
Saltysam on May 15, 2008 at 12:17 AM
If the gvmt would imprison employers like the ones at the Agribusiness plant in Iowa who knowingly hired illegals, there wouldn’t be such demand for their services. The employers are actually US citizens, usually, and should certainly do time for breaking our laws so they can help create a festering underclass.
McCain’s lousy on the border. Tragically, so is virtual fence loving Giuliani.
But if you think Obama is better than McCain on illegal immigration and labor issues, you’re nuts.
funky chicken on May 15, 2008 at 12:18 AM
When was the last time you held your nose and voted?
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:18 AM
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:16 AM
I have read some articles. China seems to have got the hang of it. But the question is will the AMerican people stand for it?
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:19 AM
I dont know, I am not a moderate, that would imply I have no strongly held views. It is a false label applied to those who do not suscribe to the “pre-approved” package.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Not true! We Moderates have strongly held views, our views are very much common sense with a tendency to defend our republic when it is threatened. You obviously feel differently about that….
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Try and find some people downticket to support, there’s gotta be at least one.
doubleplusundead on May 15, 2008 at 12:20 AM
We’re not voting for EITHER presidential candidate, but there are other local and state issues that need to be voted on.
DfDeportation on May 15, 2008 at 12:20 AM
funky chicken on May 15, 2008 at 12:18 AM
you have a point but if nothing is done what difference does it make. McCain/BHO two wolves in sheep clothing.
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:21 AM
Rudy had a whole array of stuff that he wanted to do with the border not just “virtual”(as if thats nothing), he had increasing the coast guard, physical barriers, border stat(so that BP had real time info) all kinds of stuff.
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:22 AM
pipe dreams. candy for the voters. none would have gotten done IMO. all sound great but unless there is an effort to stop the flow what good is the rest?
unseen on May 15, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Oh my, you think I am useless, however shall I get through the day.
Your post did not even warrant a response more than a snarky quip. But here goes…
I think they are very sad people who live in a trap of anger and indignation, I dont envy them at all.
Being that I am a small government proponent, I dont see how I could vote for all those T.C.’s out there who you heard not a peep from as our budget got larger and larger.
But the GWOT is my main issue given my occupation, so there in only one choice in November.
No I cant because it is just more hyperbole against those of us who dont fall into your little mold.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Fall, 2006, I voted for Don “Is Don Sherwood gonna hafta choke a b*tch” Sherwood because control of the House was in play. I’ve been picking and choosing according to who I actually support since then.
I wrote in Zombie Reagan for the PA primary this year, and there’s a damn good chance I’ll do so again this fall.
doubleplusundead on May 15, 2008 at 12:24 AM
I dont know but I keep getting told I dont have it.
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:25 AM
1. believe in states rights
2. Strict Constructionism
3. Responsible spending
4. Low taxes
5. Aggresive foreign policy
6. having the strongest military in the world
7. libertarian ideals about personal choices
Squid Shark on May 15, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Give Rudy an unmanageable situation and tell him that it can’t be solved, that has to do with crime and security and see what happens… >:D
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:28 AM
I have an Idea, why don’t you put your name on the ballot?
Chakra Hammer on May 15, 2008 at 12:30 AM
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