Fox News and Drudge aren’t bothering, since youtube videos and superdelegates are more important news than worldwide Islamic jihad.

TexasDude on May 14, 2008 at 1:43 AM

That’s all right dude, happens with best of us. And I am sorry if I was touchy, I hope it is understandable given the circumstances.

I suppose I can attemp to save face by claiming that I meant generally, not India specifically, but that would be a sham.

So, call me Mr. Foot-in-Mouth!

India is at fault for stationing their military in Saudi Arabia, they attack them because they are over there.

/paultard moonbat

jp on May 13, 2008 at 11:40 AM

And the fact that islamic terrorism has been going on for many, many decades is because India is in Iraq? I learn something every day.

Isn’t Hindu itself Polytheistic?

- The Cat

MirCat on May 13, 2008 at 1:03 PM

I think that to someone who is coming from Abrahimic traditions Hinduism may appear to be polytheistic due to its practice of worshipping multiple deities, but actually it is ,well, complicated.

PresidenToor on May 13, 2008 at 11:15 PM

I think you are talking about 1984, it was horrible, but people both Hindus and Sikhs have got over it. Since you said you were born and living in USA and provided information only from one sided sources, probably you are not familiar the ground reality here in India. There is no ill will among Sikhs and Hindus, both want to get over the nightmare,in more than four hundred years of peaceful co-existence it was an aberration.
Also it is not a ethnic struggle as Punjabi whether Sikh or Hindu are of the same ethnicity.And anyway in my later comment I clarified that it was due to paranoia regarding purity of identity not philosophy.

Gaurav on May 13, 2008 at 10:40 PM

More then most Sikhs do not support any ‘militant’ activity, quite possibly because in the past the Sikh people themselves were the targets of the militants by the militants night time raids, random killings, and zealous subjugation of the Sikh people. That being said, most Sikhs cannot also forget the events of 1987. This sort of shared heritage and reconciliation you are postulating does not exist in most of the Sikh community, and what ever its past may be – is mired in bloodshed.

As you state, not being an expert on Sikhism, I, speaking from faith, can tell you that there is no theocratic basis for any terrorism committed by people who call themselves Sikh, it’s purely ethnic.

maverick muse on May 13, 2008 at 1:26 PM

I hope my previous comment did provide some context. I am no expert on Sikhism (or any religion for that matter), but I am sure there is no support for violence in Sikh philosophy. The basic problem that I see is of paranoia of hardliners regarding the purity of identity. To them the shared heritage between Sikhism and Hinduism sends alarm bells.

PS. Hindi is the language, Hinduism is the religion, Hindus are its adherents. (Sorry for being anal)

There is still a very entrenched caste system in place in India which needs to be confronted as much as any other institutionalized discrimination
lexhamfox on May 13, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Here we go again. I have no idea what you mean by caste system being institutionalized, or what it has got to do with international security and only a faint idea how you think is USA going to “address” it, but whatever floats your boat.
Anyway may be we should focus on the issue here.

PresidenToor on May 13, 2008 at 6:11 PM

So far the reports do not indicate any involvement of Sikh terrorist groups. Also there is no history of collusion of Sikh terrorists with AQ, that may change however. Anyhoo the point is Sikh terrorism is dead in Punjab thanks to KPS Gill (You guys might have read about him on winds of change, I guess), Sikhs have moved on, in fact there was never a mass support for terrorism among Sikhs in India, even at the worst of times it was the hardliners who instigated violence, and even now it is some nutcases (mainly) in Canada who are still dreaming about Khalistan (ironically it also means “land of pure”). Indians have always been proud of Sikhs for their sacrifice against cruelty of Mughals and Afghans and nothing is going to change it.

PS. I won’t say Sikh terrorism is ethnic, it is more of theocratic nonsense.

PresidenToor on May 13, 2008 at 6:11 PM

So it’s kind of a Sum of all Fears scenario.

- The Cat

P.S. As for Sikh Militants in Canada and U.K., from what I’ve read it’s kind of like the Sinn Fein in America raising cash.

PresidenToor on May 13, 2008 at 6:11 PM

Thanks for the info.

What you guys don’t understand is that this attack is an amalgam of various groups working AGAINST Hindus. Yes, there are Sikh militants, but to say they’re driven by religion is wrong… and if your know anything about Sikhism you’ll know why. The Sikh militant struggle is more of an ethnic identitiy struggle similar to the Slavic region, being that most if not all Sikh militants are from the province on Punjab.

It’s likely that Sikh Militants, AQ or AQ associates (ie HuJI or JeM, and possibly the ISI (Pak. Intelligence Service) worked together to conduct these attacks. Furthermore I defintly know that Sikh militants were involved being that our family got a report out of India that “purpotedly” a family friend/relative’s son (I really don’t know which, the lines are so ill-defined when you get down to it – in India) was arrested in Rajasthan for doing something terrorist-like (possibly bomb-making).

Furthermore, for Gaurav to suggest that the leaders of these Sikh Militants are nestled in Canada or the U.K. is completly ridiculous; I’d have more proof that unicorns exist then that these insolent militants are based in either of those countries.

“It is beyond reason for any American not to realize that our and Europe’s future international relevance will be strongly determined by consistently good relations with India.”

How so? Europe and the US have certain things in common with India which warrant cooperation and but there are plenty of important differences as well. There is still a very entrenched caste system in place in India which needs to be confronted as much as any other institutionalized discrimination. There are lots of other issues which need to be addressed to before treating India like a NATO or NAFTA partner.

things have been very peaceful locally between the Muslim and Hindu population.

This was always the situation in Indonesia as well. Outside troublemakers come in to stir the pot.

My Jaipur guy tells me that things have been very peaceful locally between the Muslim and Hindu population. There has been no tension whatsoever.

Matticus Finch on May 13, 2008 at 12:23 PM

That may be the problem according to AQ. They are co-existing peacefully something which AQ does not want as it doesn’t support their Jihadist ideology and this is AQ’s way of stoking the fire.

It wouldn’t be the first time AQ has done something like this to stoke the jihadist fire and it sure won’t be the last. It makes sense AQ would want to stoke the Jihadist fire again since that fire seems to have died down somewhat (recruitment, moral, etc. must be down) and therefore AQ’s jihadist movement and call to arms has been diminished.

This attack does have the AQ hallmark and IMHO it looks as though it’s an attempt by AQ to foment religious strife to increase jihadist recruitment and keep the jihadist movement rolling.

I followed your link to Wikipedia, and remembered “Good Time Charlie”. Weirdly under Reagan, the Pakistani President and American Ambassador’s explosive demise. Those assassinations are always done to simultaneously stop what’s happening and shift course in time for Musharrif’s coup in this case.

Developing story. Seven coordinated explosions. Ed Morrissey is following here at Hot Air…….

It is beyond reason for any American not to realize that our and Europe’s future international relevance will be strongly determined by consistently good relations with India.
maverick muse on May 13, 2008 at 1:26 PM

Exactly, precisely correct.

Again Lefties how is Iraq causing Jihad here ?

William Amos on May 13, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Because all their tech support calls get routed thru India.
America the villian again.