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Report: Huckabee tops McCain’s VP shortlist?

posted at 2:15 pm on May 12, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Just this morning, Bob Novak quoted Christian bigwig Michael Farris as saying, “I understand he is not under consideration.” Said Huck himself just two short months ago, “We have been given every signal that is not going to be considered.” And yet:

Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas and defeated contender for the GOP presidential nomination, is currently at the top of John McCain’s short list for a running mate. At least that’s the word from a top McCain fundraiser and longtime Republican moneyman who has spoken to McCain’s inner circle. The fundraiser is less than thrilled with the idea of Huckabee as the vice presidential nominee, and many economic conservatives—turned off by the populist tone of Huckabee’s campaign and his tax record as governor—are likely to share that marked lack of enthusiasm…

Let me add that a top Republican political strategist told me about a month ago that he also believed Huckabee to be the leading veep contender.

What’s changed in two months? For starters, remember that “Anyone but Mitt” campaign by Paul Weyrich and a bunch of other evangelical leaders? McCain can’t help but be jittery at seeing the Christian base taking a keen interest in his VP pick, especially with stories about their remorse for not having backed Huck in the primary circulating. Another thought: Romney’s always been touted as the logical pick for VP because of his fundraising prowess, to help close the money gap with Obama, but revisit this post from early March about Huckabee’s media savvy. By one estimate, the free coverage he received from the likes of Scarborough, Colbert, and the rest of the talk show circuit was worth $125 million in paid ads, more than Mitt could ever raise (especially with McCain accepting public financing). Having not one but two media darlings on the GOP ticket might convince the press to go merely hip-deep into the tank for Obama instead of face-first, like they’re planning. Finally, now that Barry O’s the nominee, McCain has both a worry and an opportunity that he wouldn’t have had opposite Hillary: Turnout among black voters in the south is sure to be huge this year, which, coupled with a weak turnout among southern evangelicals, could be lethal by putting red states in play. Adding a prominent Christian to the ticket solves that problem and frees McCain up to focus on the battlegrounds instead of fighting a rearguard action to preserve his base. Adding Huckabee specifically to the ticket, with his blue-collar populist rhetoric, holds an extra advantage in giving him a shot at Hillary’s base of working-class Democrats in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

All of which is to say, while Hot Air readers might not like this idea, I can understand why Team Maverick might. Exit question: Who else will be joining me now in writing in Hillary this year?


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Laura…the church ISN’T doing it.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:19 PM

So, talk to the church then. Just because it fails to do something, that doesn’t mean it suddenly becomes the government’s responsibility.

Esthier on May 12, 2008 at 5:23 PM

And it takes NOTHING form ANY American citizen…on the contrary…educating the INNOCENT child of an illegal very well could reap benefits.

Oh yes it does! I don’t have kids at home anymore but guess where a lot of my tax money goes? Schools!

kcd on May 12, 2008 at 5:23 PM

I work in the Arkansas Community College segment…I know for a FACt that PLENTY of relocated kids are getting federal and state-aid to go to school.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:22 PM

They’re not getting in-state tuition, which is what Huck wants illegals to have.

Esthier on May 12, 2008 at 5:25 PM

Laura…the church ISN’T doing it. And it takes NOTHING form ANY American citizen…on the contrary…educating the INNOCENT child of an illegal very well could reap benefits.

Admit it. Your compassion is surely wanting in this matter.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:19 PM

If you’re a Christian, you’re the church, so do it! My church supports an orphanage in Mexico, and does a LOT of work locally. It’s up to you to get your church to do more. But allowing the government to do it is not a biblical option; Jesus did not petition the Roman government, or tell the disciples to start a 501c3. He told them to do it. As for my compassion, you have no knowledge of it; none at all. But I’d suggest that teaching people government is the solution to their ills is not compassionate at all.

As for taking nothing from any American citizen - my tax dollars are not nothing.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 5:25 PM

I am intolerant of MANY opinions and lifestyles, aren’t you?

Or do you heart pedophiles?

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:08 PM

Get some help before its to late.

dmann on May 12, 2008 at 5:25 PM

“So, talk to the church then. Just because it fails to do something, that doesn’t mean it suddenly becomes the government’s responsibility.”

Then we shouldn’t provide police, firefighters or anything, right? Just let the people and their churches provide!

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:26 PM

“Get some help before its to late.”

Dmann…you are a bigot. Admit it.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:26 PM

Then we shouldn’t provide police, firefighters or anything, right?

That’s not charity.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 5:28 PM

Then we shouldn’t provide police, firefighters or anything, right? Just let the people and their churches provide!

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:26 PM

I guess you don’t understand the difference between the governments responsibility and citizen responsibilities.

As I said already, you really are a Huck supporter.

Esthier on May 12, 2008 at 5:28 PM

This is like discovering your roomate at rehab is Amy Winehouse, Gaaaaahhhhh.

Mister Ghost on May 12, 2008 at 5:29 PM

Esthier on May 12, 2008 at 5:28 PM

Aimlessly wandering Pualnut possibly.

upinak on May 12, 2008 at 5:29 PM

This would mean the end of my support for McCain.

revolution on May 12, 2008 at 5:32 PM

The most amazing thing about this thread is that many of you will write-off Huckabee for this breach concerning his proposed legislation making it possible for innocent kids to better themselves but at the same time will embrace a guy like McCain who is in great part responsible for allowing the gross negligence in the illegal immigration matter.

Huckabee is not perfect. But he’s better than any other Republican on the radar-screen.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:34 PM

Yes, you ARE a cut-throat Republican who would punish a child for the sins of his/her parents.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Cut-throat Republicans who’d punish children for the crimes of their parents.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:06 PM

Republicans love FAMILIES and the integrity of the family to obey the law and provide for their own children as a matter of honor. Republicans contribute much more generously than Democrats do to CHARITY. Government programs are not CHARITY, and government programs do not work, anyway. If they did, we’d already all be living happily ever after in LBJ’s progressive utopia. Republicans would be willing to negotiate a treaty with the Mexican government for matching residency rights, Mexicans in USA get no more opportunity or benefits than US citizens get in Mexico from the Mexican government. But should the Mexican government MATCH the US, then there’d be plenty of entrepreneurial opportunities for US citizens and investors in Mexico, building their economy with industry on THEIR side of the border. That’s win/win.

Democrats love the gay lifestyle and abortions, and living off government programs and subsidies that tax payers provide. Democrats believe that their good intentions are the equivalent of good works, that they need not pay their taxes (Al Franken) because they have the intention to someday have their taxes taken care of for them by someone else more responsible. Children get lost in the state foster care system that the Democrats designed. Hillary Clinton and Janet Reno burnt to death a lot of babies and their parents at the Federal bonfire at Mt. Carmel outside of Waco, TX.

Generalities, yes.

Careful slinging that “cut throat” blade, Al-.

maverick muse on May 12, 2008 at 5:35 PM

“That’s not charity.”

Neither is ensuring a potential burden on society is not a burden on society.

It’s like putting a damned fire out for your neighbor.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:36 PM

McCain should pick Huck as his running mate. That way they can be assured a portion of the stupid vote. However, they run the risk of losing some of the reasonable person vote.

Plus, Huck can missrepresent scriptures really well and, if elected, his son can take care of that stray dog overpopulation problem.

Roger Waters on May 12, 2008 at 5:39 PM

The most amazing thing about this thread is that many of you will write-off Huckabee for this breach concerning his proposed legislation making it possible for innocent kids to better themselves

Actually, his embrace of illegal immigration is just the start of my very long list of complaints about Pastor Holiday Inn Express. Pakistan, his Foreign Affairs article was an embarrassment, taxes, his sneaky, unChristian trickery wrt to what Mormons believe… his weak repudiations of the push polling he continued to benefit from… the fact that like McCain he attacks Republicans, the fact that he endorsed Democrats and left the AR GOP in a shambles, his nanny statism… it’s a LONG list but I won’t provide it all here.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:34 PM

Why do you only care about the “innocent” children of illegal aliens?

What about the “innocent” children of criminals who are given nothing but a couple hundred bucks after getting out of the system?

What about the “innocent” children of parents who make too much money for their children to apply for a government grant even if their parents aren’t contributing?

They just have to suck it up and get a loan. People do it every day. They aren’t denied an education. They just have to spend a few years paying it off. Children of illegals can be in that same boat with the rest of us.

Esthier on May 12, 2008 at 5:40 PM

Neither is ensuring a potential burden on society is not a burden on society.

It’s like putting a damned fire out for your neighbor.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:36 PM

People without a college education are not necessarily burdens on society.

This country is full of millionaires who never even took one class.

Esthier on May 12, 2008 at 5:41 PM

If this is true, I’m out.

eaglesdontflock on May 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM

I won’t do it. I will hold my nose and vote for McCain but I will not vote for Huckabee. Will. Not.

Sue on May 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM

Neither is ensuring a potential burden on society is not a burden on society.
It’s like putting a damned fire out for your neighbor.

Actually, it’s more like throwing gas on the fire because it provides an incentive for more parents to break the law to gain those benefits for their children.

Slublog on May 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 5:39 PM

The man is a liberal.

I don’t know why his followers think of him as the second coming of Reagan.

My husband took a political test that asked about his political views, then matched him up with the politicians who fit them best. My husband is fairly liberal.

Two politicians tied for his top spot: John Edwards and Mike Huckabee.

Esthier on May 12, 2008 at 5:44 PM

I work in the Arkansas Community College segment…I know for a FACt that PLENTY of relocated kids are getting federal and state-aid to go to school. Our school, Ozarka College, is teeming with the children of American migrants.

Get a clue!

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:22 PM

There it is, Al-. YOUR job depends on processing these illegal aliens. You have a vested SELFISH interest to take from our taxes to pay your salary as you put the rubber stamp of approval on illegal behavior, all in the guise of COMPASSION.

Meanwhile, Mr. Pickpocket, you scream “cut throat” to diverge attention as you do your “do-gooder” self promotion.

You want to be sincerely honest, go south of the border to teach and provide the educational opportunities to the masses in their home country. It’s like teaching your neighbor literacy and free enterprise.

maverick muse on May 12, 2008 at 5:46 PM

Though I supported Fred!I can sort of tolerate McCain.
McCain vs NO-bama/Billary. McCain gets my vote hands down.
HOWEVER-if he chooses that big-mouthed, big government, demagogue from Arkansas as his veep I WILL sit out in November.

To quote Teveye:
“On the other hand…There IS no other hand.”

annoyinglittletwerp on May 12, 2008 at 5:46 PM

Yes, you ARE a cut-throat Republican who would punish a child for the sins of his/her parents.

{raises hand}
Here’s an idea: deploy your compassion for brilliant illegal peasants privately through your own Good Works and get your hand out of my pocket.

Cuffy Meigs on May 12, 2008 at 5:47 PM

My husband is fairly liberal.

Yikes, that must be challenging. My brother’s a flaming liberal and we have to be very, very careful to not get into politics or it’s a shouting match.

Don’t forget the fact that Pastor Holiday Inn Express pardoned a serial DWI offender who happened to be a major donor. And who promptly re-offended and then got off with a $300 fine.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 5:50 PM

Oh, and he was for Gitmo before he was against it. Or something like that.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 5:53 PM

Wow, if that happens, any conservative that votes for McCain has to be suffering from battered womans’ syndrome. How many times can McCain flip off the conservatives before they walk away?

Me…I’ve been gone for months, but I really hope that McCain can win over the independants and democrats he is pandering to, cause he isn’t going to win any other way!

ihasurnominashun on May 12, 2008 at 5:53 PM

Actually, it’s more like throwing gas on the fire because it provides an incentive for more parents to break the law to gain those benefits for their children.

Slublog on May 12, 2008 at 5:42 PM

BINGO! Herein lies the problem. I asked a friend of mine, why her sister did not try to get a better job. She said her sister told her “If I get a better job, my (gov’t housing) rent will go up. It ENCOURAGES bad choices that keep people down and the sad part is, most don’t even recognize it.

kcd on May 12, 2008 at 5:54 PM

“taxes, his sneaky, unChristian trickery wrt to what Mormons believe… his weak repudiations of the push polling he continued to benefit from”

Laura, looks like you’ve bought into the posers’ line at Club for Growth too.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:54 PM

I notice that there are suggestions that in case of McCain/Chuckabee we vote Constitution Party.

I went to a meeting of the Illinois Constitution Party about 6 years ago…where my now husband and I were told that only Christians were “worthy” of leadership positions!
I’m a Christian now-was one then too- but I was born and raised in a right of center JEWISH family.
FRAK the Constitution Party!!

annoyinglittletwerp on May 12, 2008 at 5:55 PM

Laura, looks like you’ve bought into the posers’ line at Club for Growth too.

Don’t you mean the “Club for Greed?”

MWA-HA-HA-HA…

Seriously, though, Huckabee’s crude demonization of that group was a major strike against him.

Slublog on May 12, 2008 at 5:56 PM

Laura…the church ISN’T doing it. And it takes NOTHING form ANY American citizen…on the contrary…educating the INNOCENT child of an illegal very well could reap benefits.

Admit it. Your compassion is surely wanting in this matter.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 5:19 PM

If you’re a Christian, you’re the church, so do it! My church supports an orphanage in Mexico, and does a LOT of work locally. It’s up to you to get your church to do more. But allowing the government to do it is not a biblical option; Jesus did not petition the Roman government, or tell the disciples to start a 501c3. He told them to do it. As for my compassion, you have no knowledge of it; none at all. But I’d suggest that teaching people government is the solution to their ills is not compassionate at all.

As for taking nothing from any American citizen - my tax dollars are not nothing.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 5:25 PM

If everybody had to write a quarterly check to the IRS, nobody would be able to say that supplying government benefits to illegal aliens or lazy citizens cost productive US citizens nothing.

I don’t find the IRS particularly compassionate, myself.

funky chicken on May 12, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Laura, looks like you’ve bought into the posers’ line at Club for Growth too.

Looks like you’re a sap, because you’ve bought into the idea that this poser is either a Christian or a leader, much less both. I wrote this months ago and still hold to it:

After his little Jesus/Satan “question” he exposed himself for exactly what he is - a typical politician who will do anything to gain power, including abuse the faith he supposedly holds so dear. And let’s be clear about the Jesus/Satan/Mormon thing - I don’t give a crap if that is what Mormons or what Romney believe. Today’s evangelicals would disqualify Thomas Jefferson on a faith basis. Most of them have NO FREAKING IDEA what the Jefferson Bible is. No, what enrages me about Huckabee’s “question” is that he damn well knew the answer before he asked it. He takes us for fools. And sadly, too many people ARE.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 5:58 PM

Yikes, that must be challenging. My brother’s a flaming liberal and we have to be very, very careful to not get into politics or it’s a shouting match.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 5:50 PM

It is, but it’s also the reason we started dating. Our debates were frustrating, but we both learned a lot in the process.

These days we don’t talk much politics.

Esthier on May 12, 2008 at 5:58 PM

If everybody had to write a quarterly check to the IRS

funky chicken on May 12, 2008 at 5:57 PM

We had to write one this year. My husband messed up his taxes.

It was painful, and unfortunately the stimulus check won’t cover it.

Esthier on May 12, 2008 at 6:01 PM

“There it is, Al-. YOUR job depends on processing these illegal aliens. You have a vested SELFISH interest to take from our taxes to pay your salary as you put the rubber stamp of approval on illegal behavior, all in the guise of COMPASSION.”

Maverick Ruse

Get a grip! There is PLENTY of wasteful spending on education in this country that will sustain my salary, Dude!

One example is the book buy-back crew that hangs a sign on the bookstore entrance that reads, “Milk it for all it’s worth!”

You want to have more money in your pocket taxwise? Quit spending taxpayer moneys on endless revisions of textbooks. Stop giving grants to those AMERICANS who don’t deserve it.

The money in Arkansas going to educate “unworthy” children of illegals is a drop in the bucket compared to that monet going to fund unworthy Americans’ education. The money government is giving to “needy” students in this day and age for books that are no different from the previous ten editions other than peargraph and chapter rearrangement would MORE than compensate for giving INNOCENT children of CRIMINAL illegals a chance at being productive members of society.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 6:02 PM

You are exactly right, Laura. Huck plays to his base….THE STUPID.

Roger Waters on May 12, 2008 at 6:03 PM

You want to have more money in your pocket taxwise? Quit spending taxpayer moneys on endless revisions of textbooks.

Actually, most bookstores are self-sustaining auxiliary enterprises that receive little to no tax support.

That having been said, the price of textbooks is ridiculous, and most revisions are worthless.

Slublog on May 12, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Do a LITTLE research, Dude. Think for yourself. Quit allowing the posers at Club for Growth do the thinking for you.

Posers?

LOL wow

There’s some big tent tolerance from the evangelical wing.

funky chicken on May 12, 2008 at 6:05 PM

peargraph and chapter rearrangement

Okay, it’s a little off topic but I have to ask. You work at a college? Really?

And this is AFTER all those improvements the Huckster put in place?

Good Lord.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 6:05 PM

That having been said, the price of textbooks is ridiculous, and most revisions are worthless.

Slublog on May 12, 2008 at 6:04 PM

True, and revisions drastically reduce the price of the book you bought last semester.

Esthier on May 12, 2008 at 6:05 PM

Hey Laura, what was the scenario when Huckabee asked the Jesus/Satan question? Are you aware that it was off camera?

And…did you know that Mormons do actually believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers? That means something to me. Maybe it doesn’t mean a damned thing to you…but it does to me.

It amazes me that the same people who condemn Huckabee for his beliefs will in turn defend Romny the Flip-flopper about his beliefs.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 6:07 PM

And…did you know that Mormons do actually believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers? That means something to me. Maybe it doesn’t mean a damned thing to you…but it does to me.

How do you feel about the Jefferson Bible? Go ahead, look it up, I’ll wait.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 6:08 PM

“Actually, most bookstores are self-sustaining auxiliary enterprises that receive little to no tax support.”

Not the Pell-Grants that buy the books at the bookstore.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 6:08 PM

It amazes me that the same people who condemn Huckabee for his beliefs will in turn defend Romny the Flip-flopper about his beliefs.

Equally amazing is that Huckabee is forgiven for his many conveniently-timed conservative changes of heart while Romney is criticized for his.

Slublog on May 12, 2008 at 6:09 PM

“You are exactly right, Laura. Huck plays to his base….THE STUPID.”

I hope you’re happy with your nominee, Dumbass.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 6:10 PM

And if by “off camera” you mean, “in an interview with a reporter for the New York Times Magazine,” then, yes, I knew.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 6:11 PM

“Equally amazing is that Huckabee is forgiven for his many conveniently-timed conservative changes of heart while Romney is criticized for his.”

What a rediculous statement.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 6:12 PM

“How do you feel about the Jefferson Bible? Go ahead, look it up, I’ll wait.”

It’s nothing more than flawed interpretation from an imperfect individual.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Not the Pell-Grants that buy the books at the bookstore.

Once the pell-grants are distributed, the student is free to spend them on any educational purpose. That’s not the same as the E&G funding used to support non-auxiliary facets of higher education.

Slublog on May 12, 2008 at 6:16 PM

As a NON evangelical Christian-I like the term Jewish Believer-I don’t CARE about Romney’s Mormonism.
I DO care about weather McCain’s veep is someone I could feel confidence in.
I have zero confidence in Big Government Huckabee.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 12, 2008 at 6:16 PM

It’s nothing more than flawed interpretation from an imperfect individual.

…that inherently denies Jesus’ divinity, which is pretty much identical to the premise for which you reject Romney.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 6:18 PM

What a rediculous statement.

Ridiculous, or merely inconvenient for your argument?

Huckabee changed heart on immigration issues, taxation, Cuba, Guantanamo Bay, a nationwide smoking ban…etcetera and so on. The difference between most Romney supporters and those of Huckabee is that the former were more willing to face the reality of their candidate’s political past.

Slublog on May 12, 2008 at 6:19 PM

What a rediculous statement.

Ridiculous, or merely inconvenient for your argument?

Huckabee changed heart on immigration issues, taxation, Cuba, Guantanamo Bay, a nationwide smoking ban…etcetera and so on. The difference between most Romney supporters and those of Huckabee is that the former were more willing to face the reality of their candidate’s political past.

Re-post to clarify formatting.

Slublog on May 12, 2008 at 6:20 PM

That means something to me. Maybe it doesn’t mean a damned thing to you…but it does to me.

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 6:07 PM

Why should it mean a single thing when talking about a candidate for president?

I thought you weren’t in favor of imposing your beliefs on others.

Esthier on May 12, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Finally, now that Barry O’s the nominee, McCain has both a worry and an opportunity that he wouldn’t have had opposite Hillary: Turnout among black voters in the south is sure to be huge this year, which, coupled with a weak turnout among southern evangelicals, could be lethal by putting red states in play.

The Democrats will frame a McCain/Huckabee ticket as a new Southern strategy. McCain can’t afford to create the impression that he’s picking his VP to counteract the “black vote” (the media will conflate this with suppressing the black vote). McCain is going to have to walk a tightrope in the South to avoid inflaming centuries of racial resentments, which could spill over to the rest of the electorate and ruin his campaign. Not sure what the answer is for McCain.

Another thing - the evangelical lobby has had their chance to run the Republican Party, and mostly they’ve run it into the ground. It’s clear that the evangelical vision of conservatism has failed. Give moderates 4 years and see how they do.

RightOFLeft on May 12, 2008 at 6:24 PM

Guess I’m voting Constitution Party this year…

Sackett on May 12, 2008 at 6:25 PM

I thought you weren’t in favor of imposing your beliefs on others.
Esthier on May 12, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Hi Esthier, still at it I see :-) You’re beginning to enjoy this, aren’t you? (just joking)

Oldnuke on May 12, 2008 at 6:32 PM

Although I am inclined to agree with the “conservative purists” participating in this thread, I would like to point out that there is an underlying fallacious presumption in their argument. We may all be a bit too eager to “breath a sigh of relief” if McCain picks a “true conservative.”

Let remind you about the last time that this happened. The last time the Republican ticket was headed by a liberal (like McCain) was when Richard Nixon ran for POTUS. He picked a “true conservative” for VP, viz. Spiro Agnew.

My collie says:

Way before I was born. How’d that whole thing work-out for you?

Not only did Agnew resign in shame (after being indicted on felony charges — for kick-backs during his term as Maryland governor if I remember correctly), but that’s how we ended-up with Gerald Ford. Gerald Ford is how we ended-up with Jimmy Carter.

So you see, even if McCain chooses a conservative, that should not necessarily be viewed as some kind of panacea. American presidential politics has taken some pretty strange twists/turns in the past.

CyberCipher on May 12, 2008 at 6:34 PM

You know, it’s almost as if McCain is deliberately driving conservatives away from the GOP; he wants to win without our support and he’s evidently willing to risk losing in order to prove his point. If he were interested at all in getting conservatives on board, he wouldn’t touch this wacky global warming tour with a ten meter cattle prod. But instead he’s all for it.

If he picks Huck as VP it will be more of the same, not a change from his standard operating procedure. Just his little way of saying “here’s the door, don’t let it hit you…”

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 6:38 PM

CyberCipher on May 12, 2008 at 6:34 PM

Man alive! Talk about a bucket full of cold water. Did you have to bring that up? Of course you’re right about it. The dark shameful past of the Republicans ushered in the enlightenment of Jimmy the rabid rabbit carter. I’m now having visions of doom for every possible outcome. I think we’re screwed.

Oldnuke on May 12, 2008 at 6:40 PM

I don’t find the IRS particularly compassionate, myself.

funky chicken on May 12, 2008 at 5:57 PM

LOL

maverick muse on May 12, 2008 at 6:48 PM

I was going to hold my nose and vote for McCain in November, but if he picks Huck for his V.P., I will probably sit this one out. Four years of socialism is inevitable. But if the democrats are at the helm during the next four years, a decent conservative will have a much easier time in 2012.

The only amusing thing about this whole election cycle is knowing that the dems crossed over and voted for McCain during the early primaries, thinking their lady was a shoo-in. I wonder how many Hillary supporters regret that strategy?

Texas Nick 77 on May 12, 2008 at 6:53 PM

Al-Ozarka on May 12, 2008 at 6:02 PM

So you are a fraud. You lack the literacy of an “educator” and resound the part of a pencil pushing enabler of crime. That so many are corrupt does not legitimize crime. Only a filthy mind would argue to the contrary. From here on, rant to yourself. You do not get my attention.

maverick muse on May 12, 2008 at 6:59 PM

If Huck is the VP, I don’t think McCain will get Utah at all. I don’t think Obama will either, but I doubt McCain will.

Obama’s bad news, no question. But Huckabee has literally gone out of his way to attack the predominant faith in Utah (and this is a pattern for him: see, e.g. his speech at the Baptist convention in SLC); PLUS he is running on a platform of mixing religion with government.

Obama may screw me over, but he’ll do it to everyone. Huck will go out of his way to target my faith. That’s scarier.

Vanceone on May 12, 2008 at 7:00 PM

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 6:38 PM

It’s worth getting McCain’s response on that question.

maverick muse on May 12, 2008 at 7:05 PM

Give me a break. You couldn’t live on 18k a year in Haiti.

SaintOlaf on May 12, 2008 at 3:37 PM

WRONG:

Haiti’s per capita GDP is only $460, so $18K would (and does!) support more than 10 people in relative “upper-middle-class” style in that country.

The world is not like California.

landlines on May 12, 2008 at 7:06 PM

Vanceone on May 12, 2008 at 7:00 PM

Obama will go out of his way to target you as well.

maverick muse on May 12, 2008 at 7:07 PM

sign off

maverick muse on May 12, 2008 at 7:07 PM

Maverick Muse: Probably so, but unless they kill Harry Reid, he won’t be as vehement–tis bad form to have a public split like that. Reid at least will stop blatant targeting from Obama.

But even if he doesn’t, it’s a lot easier to have Obama, who is practically the atheist candidate, targeting the most conservative state in the union. But Huckabee is supposed to be a friend of “Christians” and pro-family values, etc etc etc.

So it would be more galling. But par for the course.

Vanceone on May 12, 2008 at 7:09 PM

Let remind you about the last time that this happened. The last time the Republican ticket was headed by a liberal (like McCain) was when Richard Nixon ran for POTUS. He picked a “true conservative” for VP, viz. Spiro Agnew.

Not true. The last time was Bush 41 and Dan Quayle.

jaime on May 12, 2008 at 7:23 PM

even if McCain chooses a conservative, that should not necessarily be viewed as some kind of panacea.

True.

jaime on May 12, 2008 at 7:24 PM

Quayle was a conservative? Honestly, the only thing I remember about that poor guy was the unfair press he got on the Murphy Brown thing.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 7:25 PM

That is the most depressing news so far.

mariloubaker on May 12, 2008 at 7:33 PM

I’m at a point where I’m not gonna vote McCain, but I could possibly reconsider. If its Huck, under no circumstances would I vote for McCain.

doubleplusundead on May 12, 2008 at 7:35 PM

Ugh. If true, this is the kind of move that will persuade me to vote Libertarian as a protest vote.

Spolitics on May 12, 2008 at 7:36 PM

“Dude” sums it up for me too.

I happen to like the guy, Huckabee, personally. But as a GOP candidate for national office? UGHHH!

petefrt on May 12, 2008 at 7:47 PM

Esthier,

You brought up a good question(though you’re on the wrong side of it)…do politics and religion mix?

The answer is yes they do mix it is unavoidable.

What are the terrible consequences of your flawed position??

for starters: The widespread idol worship/demonic sacrifices of abortion genocide….the elevation and promotion of the sinful practice of homosexuality(gay marriage)….the official state religion of secular humanism and the widespread indoctrination of the non scientific religion of evolutionism.

By taking religion out of politics you are invariably replacing it with another religion…secular humanism and you are assuring God’s righteous judgment on this nation.

For instance on 9/11..we made a mistake…we turned to patriotism(and only briefly) instead of turning to God in repentance.

A couple years later a lie was spread on the internet that 9/11 was an inside job and then, even all patriotism disappeared.

unfortunately now, 42% of the population believe that lie…selling sin is easy as the saying goes.

Make no mistake…God will judge this nationwe will be destroyed.

We are in the end times!

Repent for the kingdom of God is near.

Many people are turning to God now just from following the news.

Prior to the nomination people were realizing the terrible threats we faced from all directions and thought we can fight..we can fix it….but now, after this sham of an election and disillusionment of the republican party, more and more people are wisely turning to Jesus.

You can’t stop the prophecy of the Living Word, friends.

Repent, turn from sin and accept Jesus Christ while you can!

Jesus is the TRUTH and the only way in which man is saved!

You do not want to be left behind (to face the great tribulation that is soon to come) on the day in which the true church is caught up and the world turns dark!

SaintOlaf on May 12, 2008 at 7:48 PM

McCain is in the tank for Obama!

WisCon on May 12, 2008 at 7:49 PM

This should please the Social Conservatives…well…the Christians anyways. I do think he’d run rings around Ubama and whomever his running mate is in debates.

SouthernGent on May 12, 2008 at 7:57 PM

By taking religion out of politics you are invariably replacing it with another religion…secular humanism and you are assuring God’s righteous judgment on this nation.

For instance on 9/11..we made a mistake…we turned to patriotism(and only briefly) instead of turning to God in repentance.

Make no mistake…God will judge this nation…we will be destroyed.

What garbage. 9/11 was God’s judgment? So we had it coming? And God will destroy America? You might as well be quoting Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, just replace Jesus with Muhammad in your little speech.

phronesis on May 12, 2008 at 8:03 PM

Let’s not just write in some name. I know we can never win, but can’t we come up with someone we respect and all write that name in?

Anyway for ozark (whatever) red pill; apocalypse; st o; a quote from a newspaper article:It talks about the # of baptisms are declining and quoting the president of the Southern Baptist Convention, Rev Frank Page.

The president of the Southern Baptist Convention blamed the decline in part on a perception that its followers are “mean spirited, hurtful and angry.”
The article is from Deseret News, Saturday April 26, 2008 - titled Southern Baptist Numbers Down

Does anyone even have a clue where anyone would get that idea?

Bambi on May 12, 2008 at 8:04 PM

I’d wish they pick Romney so we could “Kemp” him. Huck will never be a threat for the white house so this seems like a waste of a VP choice. If this ends up being the case I just hope the Dems pick Webb so I can watch the funniest VP debate of all time.

LevStrauss on May 12, 2008 at 8:06 PM

You know, as someone who has been on the ‘no way I’d vote for McCain ever ever ever’ bandwagon for months, I’ve got to say I’m surprised at the number of people in this thread who decided THIS, the possibility of Huckaphony being on the ticket, as being the last straw.
McCain could put a gun to my head, and I wouldn’t vote for him, but I would love it if he picked Huckabee. Good grief, talk about a joke ticket. Let’s fine the two biggest, most annoying a**holes in the entire GOP, who between them have enough malice, and outright stupidity to alienate anyone who’s ever registered Republican. In my blackened dead little heart, a trickle of laughter curls, at the thought of this horror ticket. I mean, did someone hire Paul Begala at the GOP to help choose our candidates? Interesting stuff…with a pick that bad, McCain may blow this race yet.

austinnelly on May 12, 2008 at 8:09 PM

For instance on 9/11..we made a mistake…we turned to patriotism(and only briefly) instead of turning to God in repentance.

SaintOlaf on May 12, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Ah, so you think the chickensssss…came home….to rooooooost!

You absolutely sicken me, get off my internets.

doubleplusundead on May 12, 2008 at 8:14 PM

After giving a solicitor for the RNC an earful about McCain a few days ago, primarily because the presumed candidate fails to understand that immigration-law enforcement combined with attrition solves many of our problems with illegals, that border security is a prime responsibility of the federal governments, and that energy independence is critical for our country. I am angry that McCain confuses squishy, questionable claims of AGW with facts and that he ignores the responsible strides that our energy producers have made to be responsible stewards.

Now McCain wants to impose asinine environmental standards and embrace the cap-and-trade shell game. His idiocy will assure that consumers will be taxed indirectly as he cripples our economy.

If McCain selects Huckabee as his running mate, I definitely will not vote for the Maverick. Any phone calls by the RNC will be met with a hang up, and the mail solicitations will continue to be added to the waste fill.

I’ll support down-ticket candidates with contributions directly to their campaigns.

With the number of independents about to vote in November, McCain is assuring political suicide with Huckabee on his ticket.

The zealot fan-club-for-Huckabee members at this site are deluded. Their absurd hostility to Romney smacks of self-righteous, self-satisfied pride. Unlike their boy Huckabee, Romney never governed by imposing his religious convictions on the electorate and never engaged in smug, smarmy cheap shots.

My gosh, we are choosing leaders for our country at a very critical time in our history, and what do we have to choose from? Pandering politicos unworthy to run the ship of state.

onlineanalyst on May 12, 2008 at 8:15 PM

Their absurd hostility to Romney smacks of self-righteous, self-satisfied pride rabid hatred of Mormons.

FTFY

doubleplusundead on May 12, 2008 at 8:17 PM

By taking religion out of politics you are invariably replacing it with another religion…secular humanism and you are assuring God’s righteous judgment on this nation.

For instance on 9/11..we made a mistake…we turned to patriotism(and only briefly) instead of turning to God in repentance.

Wow, SaintOlaf, that’s edgy.

Wait, did I say edgy?

I meant completely insane.

Slublog on May 12, 2008 at 8:18 PM

I mean, did someone hire Paul Begala at the GOP to help choose our candidates?

No, it was Carville.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 8:26 PM

edgy but true.

The difference is when Imam Wright said our chickens came home he was talking about US foreign policy…I am talking about a nation forsaking God and being forsaken by God.

Any preacher will tell you the same thing is true.

The muslim Imam wright is talking about something completely different.

The U.S. government has forsaken God and now practices and promotes a false and demonic religion.

Yes America will fall and very soon in fact.

SaintOlaf on May 12, 2008 at 8:28 PM

doubleplusundead on May 12, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Thanks for the edit. (That’s really an accurate adjustment to what I meant. The Huckabots appear to disdain us Catholics, too. They certainly have screwy ideas about our beliefs.)

I’m voting for a leader of our country, not a leader for a particular brand of religious belief. The head of state is not the means of my redemption.

onlineanalyst on May 12, 2008 at 8:36 PM

I won’t vote for Pastor Holiday Inn Express under any circumstances. He’s one “Christian leader” who does not, and will never, represent me.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 3:31 PM

You would vote for Hillary over Huckabee? What a phony. Voting for an abortionist (baby killer) is NOT pursuing holiness as you’re website indicates you’re trying to do.

apacalyps on May 12, 2008 at 8:38 PM

How can any honest conservative criticize Mike Huckabee at this point? It’s hard to imagine how he could be doing anything more than what he is already doing to champion the conservative cause.

Red Pill on May 12, 2008 at 2:35 PM

I answered this in the first post about the Huckster. And your second post as well.

It was pushing it for me to support McC for the good of the Nation. But if he puts the Huckster on as VP, I will vote the local races and leave the POTUS selections unchecked.

I’m not a republican anymore, it seems. Why the hell should I be. My interests are not represented. I’ll be damned if I’ll support a McC/Huckster ticket.

As I said in the other post, there is no way I want that phony preacher a heartbeat away from the Presidency. Let the big O and the most incompetent congress in history screw royally up. Maybe some of my other respected posters are right. Maybe we just need to let the bad choices crash and pick up the pieces when the country has regained its sanity.

Believe me, as a self-employed American, that possibility represents a hell of a lot of pain.

techno_barbarian on May 12, 2008 at 8:38 PM

He’s one “Christian leader” who does not, and will never, represent me.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 3:31 PM

I doubt any REAL Christian leader would satisfy you, and if you object give me an example. Al Sharpton does not count.

apacalyps on May 12, 2008 at 8:40 PM

You would vote for Hillary over Huckabee? What a phony. Voting for an abortionist (baby killer) is NOT pursuing holiness as you’re website indicates you’re trying to do.

Because Huckabee’s going to Put A Stop to abortion the minute he gets into power! Right? He did SO MUCH to promote abstinence and adoption and straighted out the foster care system in Arkansas while he was in charge! Those were BIG priorities for him and the abortion rate in AR dropped like a rock while he was in power, didn’t it?
/sarc

Tool.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 8:41 PM

edgy but true.

The difference is when Imam Wright said our chickens came home he was talking about US foreign policy…I am talking about a nation forsaking God and being forsaken by God.

Any preacher will tell you the same thing is true.

The muslim Imam wright is talking about something completely different.

The U.S. government has forsaken God and now practices and promotes a false and demonic religion.

Yes America will fall and very soon in fact.

SaintOlaf on May 12, 2008 at 8:28 PM

I think most of us will resist your particular flavor of vile barbarism just as we resist the islamists.

phronesis on May 12, 2008 at 8:42 PM

I doubt any REAL Christian leader would satisfy you, and if you object give me an example. Al Sharpton does not count.

apacalyps on May 12, 2008 at 8:40 PM

Jesus Christ.

Laura on May 12, 2008 at 8:43 PM

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