Why is it so easy to use a fake/stolen SS number? I mean, why even have them if they are so easily faked/stolen? Anyone know?

The SS# bought, sold, and traded are real SS numbers. When an employer receives a SS# they are only calling to verify that the SS# is valid. The name, address, or any other relevant information is left out of the verification process.

Not that I’ve ever noticed. It’s been well below the national average for years.

You are correct about the competition, but you forget that not all competitors are local. Many are foreign.

Is it better to have low wage jobs here in the states, or for those factories to move overseas completely?

Postville, prior to the raid, had a population of around 2400. How many of you want to move to a town that small?

There are some Americans who love small town living. But there are many more who don’t.

I’d gladly pay an extra 50 cents a pound for meat to have US citizens earning decent wages.

Speak for yourself. I have a family to feed. It’s hard enough to do with existing prices. Why should my family be forced to cut back so that someone else’s family can have more?

What are you, a socialist or something?

Workers were being paid 4 to 5 dollars an hour, safety devices removed from power saws, forced to pay rent for sleeping on mud floors, etc., etc. One owner could not speak English, and through a Spanish interpreter said he didn’t know he was breaking any laws (sic).

I immediately called ICE, they said they were “tracking the situation” but to this date have done nothing.

Agriprocessors

Corporate Slime enabled by Bush.
Just another American citizen nativist crying out in the wilderness here.

Meatpacking was on of the few blue collar middle class jobs left.

Wages twenty years ago could range over twenty dollars an hour.
Since a strong invasion of illegal workers, average meatpacking wages have dropped rather than rise like other middle class jobs have, as low as eight dollars an hour for those same jobs twenty years ago.

Thank John Gay and his enablers.

http://charlotte.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A40866

BS, If I remember correctly after raids in Arkansas and North Carolina, citizens with good papers lined up around the block to apply for these “undoable” jobs. The dead tree media won’t cover this because it blows their whole anti- American bias to hell.

It goes into the Trust Fund where it is promptly grabbed by Jack Murtha and given to people back home who kick back 10% of it as campaign contributions.

Basically, it funds the deficit.

Perhaps that’s what American’s won’t do, stay at a job for the rest of their lives if something better opens up.

Damn that ladder of opportunity.

VolMagic on May 12, 2008 at 5:57 PM

My understanding:

They use stolen identification and SS numbers. And the employer, if it checks, gets told by the government that the name and SS match and the SS number is valid, or not.

As long as the illegal doesn’t incur bad debts on the SSN, the actual holder of the SSN doesn’t know.

These are jobs most Americans won’t do or can’t do

Buy Danish on May 12, 2008 at 6:11 PM

“Won’t.” Incomplete statement. Without supplying the compensation, there is no way to verify the statement. I’d pack meat, pick lettuce, clean toilets, landscape, or anything else, for the right price.

“Can’t”? You, er, can’t be serious. I’d be willing to bet that there are at least some Americans, somewhere, who would be capable of performing these jobs.

(May 12) The House Democratic leadership continued its assault on immigration enforcement at a May 6 House Ways & Means Subcommittee hearing on the SAVE Act (H.R. 4088).

Social Security Subcommittee Chairman Michael R. McNulty (D-N.Y.) tipped his hand in advance, revealing his strong bias against requiring employers to use an Internet system (E-Verify) to keep illegal aliens from getting jobs. He said Congress “(s)hould not compound the problems of a flawed system. And, it is essential that we not increase the workload of the Social Security Administration.” McNulty stacked the witness list with the Chamber of Commerce and others opposed to blocking their ability to hire illegal workers.

A freshman Democrat then praised the system… he won’t be getting invited to the next party.

Go see if your CongressCritter is signed on or not!

Great question! I guess no one bothers to check them. Makes you wonder where the money goes from FICA, doesn’t it?

Ed Morrissey on May 12, 2008 at 5:59 PM

Straight to a pork barrel. I had an issue with the SSA like that several years ago, multiple names with my SSN. The FICA didn’t go to my balance (as much as I was hoping it would).

It is a survival game, like all capitalism, except here the government non-enforcement policy is the driving force.

First hold the government responsible. Then business. Then you can go after those ‘lazy’ Americans.

Great question! I guess no one bothers to check them. Makes you wonder where the money goes from FICA, doesn’t it?

Ed Morrissey on May 12, 2008 at 5:59 PM

I’d chance a guess that no one is counting the money coming in. I mean why does a person need to file a tax return? I mean shouldn’t they know?

- The Cat