Video: “Unelectable”

posted at 1:22 pm on May 10, 2008 by Allahpundit

Via Suzie at Assorted Babble, here’s the last consolation of the disgruntled Hillary supporter, a variation on the Clintonian principle that if she can’t be president, no Democrat can: Somehow, supposedly, the guy who raises $50 million a month and stands to receive the most fawning media coverage any presidential candidate’s ever gotten is incapable of beating John McCain. Serious hypothetical exit question: Let’s say Maverick does miraculously beat Obama in November. Is she a shoo-in for the nomination in 2012? Unless she stumps her heart out for Team Barry this summer, the perception will be that she wanted him to lose and feelings within the party will be very, very hard. On the other hand, there are no obvious rivals standing in her way — with the notable exception of Mark Warner, the centrist former governor of Virginia who’s virtually assured of ending up in the Senate next year. How soon, I wonder, before Her Majesty starts to re-make herself as a stalwart liberal in order to be able to run to his left.


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I actually liked it!

ArmyAunt on May 10, 2008 at 1:31 PM

How soon, I wonder, before Her Majesty starts to re-make herself as a stalwart liberal in order to be able to run to his left.

She’ll run from the middle the next time, not much different than McCain. She can’t wait ’til 2016, no way.

They left out, having included all other ‘unelectables’, his number one bottleneck, the wife.

The 1930s colors, somberness, were interesting, and not PC.

Entelechy on May 10, 2008 at 1:34 PM

What did John Kerry say???

SoulGlo on May 10, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Let’s say Maverick does miraculously beat Obama in November.

Allahpundit

There wouldn’t be anything miraculous about that. I expect McCain will beat Obama by a good margin.

Maxx on May 10, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Not a bad video. McCain should win, despite all the marks against that event. I say should, because Mac has a little thing for stepping on his own yingyang. Like announcing he’s going to pander La Raza and come back out for ‘comprehensive immigration reform’, after we were just starting to come around.

bikermailman on May 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Where was that video at :56 from?

Vizzini on May 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM

If McCain does beat Obama, why doesn’t anyone consider that Obama might be back in 2012 with more experience and credibility?

alycan1 on May 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Mark Warner, the centrist former governor of Virginia who’s virtually assured of ending up in the Senate next year.

Not to change the subject, but:

1. Warner’s no centrist. He’s a Northern Virginia limousine liberal. When he eventually runs for Prez you’ll see a platform somewhere between Gore and Obama.
2. If any part of the Dem/nutroots base starts backing him (Moron.org, etc.) he’s not going to win. Provided, of course, that the GOP bothers to point this out. Dems have won statewide races in VA not because the Commonwealth is turning into San Francisco on the James, it’s because the state GOP is a bunch of dummies and because George Allen couldn’t keep his mouth shut.
3. A sharp candidate can smack Warner down – he’s not popular in Southside and western VA and can be beaten in Tidewater and the parts of Northern VA that don’t begin with “A” (Alexandria and Arlington). Of course, that brings up the state GOP and stupidity again…

fiatboomer on May 10, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Even you have to admit, Allah, that being down by 23 points in West Virginia to Hillary is a very bad place to be for the presumptive Dem nominee.

I’m very eager to see the state by state breakdown of polling results once it seeks in with the electorate that Obama is the Dem nominee. He might be ahead or tied with McCain in national polls, but I think there is a strong posibility that he is getting crushed in the electoral college.

This would be no surprise. The Dems’ support has been running increasingly deep but narrow, as the blue states get bluer, but they lose even more credibility in the south and mountain west. And if Obama cannot appeal to moderates and blue collars in his own party, he is going to have a helluva time with the swing states of Ohio, Indiana, and Missouri, to name a few.

Is he unelectable? I wouldn’t go that far. But the possibility of a Mondale-esque loss in what should be a Dem year gives me the warm fuzzies.

Nessuno on May 10, 2008 at 1:41 PM

She’s going to win the nomination.

Weight of Glory on May 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM

If McCain does beat Obama, why doesn’t anyone consider that Obama might be back in 2012 with more experience and credibility?

alycan1 on May 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Americans don’t like losers. It’s one thing to lose a nomination, but quite another to be turned down by the American people as a whole.

Besides, Obama’s shtick is fresh and new. 4 more years in the Senate can’t possibly help that image.

Nessuno on May 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Where was that video at :56 from?

Vizzini on May 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Excellent catch! I wonder what Wright was saying that elicited the Obama’s standing ovation.

Weight of Glory on May 10, 2008 at 1:52 PM

Congress is full of the unelectable.

Limerick on May 10, 2008 at 1:54 PM

well, that’s my Two Minuets Hate. I’m off to go buy some Victory Gin. I have a feeling I’ll be spending most of 2009-2012 very, very drunk.

VolMagic on May 10, 2008 at 1:55 PM

McCain beating Obama will not be miraculous. That’s pretty much what i expect to happen.

surrounded on May 10, 2008 at 1:57 PM

The video’s got it right for a number of reasons, but Obama is more electable than Clinton, neither of them are electable.

The part of the video where Sen. John Kerry says Obama is not electable because “he’s a black man” is just nonsense, but of course that will be the charge by Democrats, of course after Obama looses by a wide margin, and I think he will, the Democrats will have their “pseudo-proof” that America is racist.

Maxx on May 10, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Limerick, there’s plenty of time to be depressed after Obama wins. Cheer up, for now.

Entelechy on May 10, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Nessuno on May 10, 2008 at 1:41 PM

Here ya go:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/Apr03.html

ArmyAunt on May 10, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Has McCain repudiated this yet?

SouthernGent on May 10, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Todd Schnitt (the Schnitt Show) put together this really great audio of Obama/ Wright.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA9XdasN81Y

stenwin77 on May 10, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Entelechy on May 10, 2008 at 1:59 PM

I’m not sure if he will or not. What I am sure of is that the right is deaf, blind, and dumb when it comes to all this tripe about McCain walking into the WH. This is going to be a battle royal.

Limerick on May 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Let’s say Maverick does miraculously beat Obama in November.

Oh ye of little faith. Oh wait, that’s right, no faith at all.

rightside on May 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM

What I am sure of is that the right is deaf, blind, and dumb when it comes to all this tripe about McCain walking into the WH. This is going to be a battle royal.

Limerick on May 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM

You got that right!

Weight of Glory on May 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM

I like this one even more. Bamboozled indeed.

SouthernGent on May 10, 2008 at 2:09 PM

That vocal track just about killed me. Yikes. Talk about riding the top of the pitch.

Carry on. : )

capitalist piglet on May 10, 2008 at 2:10 PM

That was pretty good, actually. Points for style.

techno_barbarian on May 10, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Serious hypothetical exit question: Let’s say Maverick does miraculously beat Obama in November. Is she a shoo-in for the nomination in 2012?

If McCain beats Obama (maybe 1 chance in 3?), Hillary will get the blame and there will be a whole gaggle of democrats going for the nomination in 2012 and again one of them will likely knock her off her broom and onto her ass, which will probably be even bigger by then.

MB4 on May 10, 2008 at 2:22 PM

That really doesn’t do justice to Natalie Cole and her wonderful father. I give it ‘the face’.
Of course I do agree with the general message, but who are HRC supporters kidding?: the Clintons are the elite, so is McCain. >80% of in Congress is too. Power corrupts absolutely and when it doesn’t, it forces the issue.

Christine on May 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM

Obama is going to pay, in some way, for stealing this nomination from her Thighness. This all goes back to the bitter battle between the Kennedy and Clinton factions of the party.

This isn’t over, in the Clinton’s eyes.

stenwin77 on May 10, 2008 at 2:25 PM

What did John Kerry say???

SoulGlo on May 10, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Yeah, I noticed that too. In response to the interviewer’s question, “What gives him (Obama) credibility?”, sKerry unhesitantly said, “Because he’s African American. Because he’s a black man.”

Man! Did we dodge a big ol’ dumb bullet in the last election or what?! Wow!

techno_barbarian on May 10, 2008 at 2:26 PM

“What gives him (Obama) credibility?”

techno_barbarian on May 10, 2008 at 2:26 PM

Thanks for pointing that out. I couldn’t hear the question. I thought Kerry was being ask about B.O.’s electability.

Maxx on May 10, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Power corrupts absolutely and when it doesn’t, it forces the issue.

Christine on May 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM

Power corrupts and Absolute Power corrupts absolutely…

IF the Democrats get the White House they would have the House and Senate and Executive Branch(Democrats would have Absolute Power and would be completely corrupt, No Checks & Balances)

Chakra Hammer on May 10, 2008 at 2:36 PM

IF the Democrats get the White House they would have the House and Senate and Executive Branch(Democrats would have Absolute Power and would be completely corrupt, No Checks & Balances)

Yes, if Democrats get the Presidency, I don’t think (at least I hope) they will not have the House and Senate for much longer.

terryannonline on May 10, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Where was that video at :56 from?

Vizzini on May 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Excellent catch! I wonder what Wright was saying that elicited the Obama’s standing ovation.

Weight of Glory on May 10, 2008 at 1:52 PM

There was a cut between Wright and Obama, so he could be applauding for someone else.

calbear on May 10, 2008 at 2:48 PM

hypothetical exit question: Let’s say Maverick does miraculously beat Obama in November. Is she a shoo-in for the nomination in 2012?

I’ll have to say not. I swear I didn’t see this before I started my research for a post on why it’s now or never for Clinton, but I must point out two things:

– 5 of the previous 6 Dem nominees, going back to Jimmy Carter in 1976, had not sought the Presidency in a previous election cycle, with the 6th (Al Gore) attempting to get a promotion. That’s right; even Walter Mondale only sought the Presidency once, in 1984.
– There have been but two Dem Presidential candidates this past century who previously sought and failed to get the Presidential nomination without being Vice President in the interim (George McGovern in 1972 in the first Dem nomination process not run by party bosses, John W. Davis in 1924).

All five times in the past century the Democrats trotted out somebody who prevously failed to either get the Presidential nomination or the Presidency (in addition to Gore, McGovern and Davis, add William Jennings Bryan’s third nomination in 1908 and Adali Stevenson’s second nomination in 1956), they’ve lost.

steveegg on May 10, 2008 at 2:53 PM

hypothetical exit question: Let’s say Maverick does miraculously beat Obama in November.

The real question is… Is McCain really trying to win

Kini on May 10, 2008 at 2:58 PM

Today’s entire political message from the media that we argue is “unelectable.” That CHANGE from traditional campaigns is one Obama legacy.

BHO is the leftist gift that just keeps on giving. He has a forked tongue that speaks simultaneously from both sides of his mouth. Panic occurs when people believe the media, like Newt, rather than think clearly themselves.

Obama ’08
Boldly go where no Marxist has gone before.
POTUS, the final frontier.

maverick muse on May 10, 2008 at 3:11 PM

I am not convinced, despite the (snicker, snicker) polling data showing so, that McCain would beat Obama. I know that this issue has always come up and has in the recent past failed miserably, but the youth vote may actually account for something this time around. Gen-Y or Millennial generation are much more active in civic participations than we Gen-Xers. As time goes on, more and more of them are going to be in the voting age category. Obama appeals to this young generation a lot more than McCain, mostly because certain ideas Obama espouses are what Millennials really believe as a generation.

I am not predicting that the young vote will have an impact, but if the youth really do end up participating this time, as they have had the potential in the past, then the election will most certainly go towards Obama. That is, unless McCain can use similar language that these Millennials associate with (but I doubt this as McCain, despite his maverick-ness, is a crotchety, stubborn old man).

Weebork on May 10, 2008 at 3:11 PM

The real question is… Is McCain really trying to win

Kini on May 10, 2008 at 2:58 PM

That’s fair enough to ask so long as you do not defer to the MSM for anything. Given entire interviews, one can not be unimpressed with McCain’s take on Obama, whereas one can only be unimpressed with Obama’s take on McCain.

maverick muse on May 10, 2008 at 3:14 PM

I like this one even more. Bamboozled indeed.
SouthernGent on May 10, 2008 at 2:09 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y7OFLl3asg

Nothing but plagiarized rehtoric.
This man is truly an empty suit.

diogenes on May 10, 2008 at 3:16 PM

Allah readers, please consider these points:

A) Bill Clinton & Co are considered the most effective political team of this generation. They got Bill and Hillary elected twice… they know the media and candidates like no one else. They are on all of the media shows and are the real insiders to this election.

B) The Clintons know how vulnerable McCain or any Republican candidate is this year. Historically, the times are against the right, especially for down ticket races.

C) The Clinton team knows the voters and are motivational experts. They know that McCain will have a hard time prevailing against the 21 century desire for freshness.

D) Since this election is the Democrats for the taking, why would they both not suspend the campaign and work to get Obama elected? He would gladly appoint one or both of them to important positions. The minor policy differences between the two candidates are no reason to try so hard to keep BO out of the White House.

So why do they keep working for the nomination?

It’s because they know what’s in store for the Obama candidacy, and it’s disaster. They know his vulnerabilities and are cringing at the thought of having this easy election being sacrificed to a black, ultra-liberal rookie. They see their last chance being stripped from their hands, and the White House kept once more from the Democratic party.

Barak’s veneer will not survive the coming scrutiny. CNN can’t cover for him for ever, and they too will turn tail when he gets shown for the lightweight he is.

As draining as McCain is for us, he’s the man for the nation, at least for this moment. His Mexi-pandering will work wonders for that segment– let him sell it.

leftnomore on May 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM

If McCain does beat Obama, why doesn’t anyone consider that Obama might be back in 2012 with more experience and credibility?

alycan1 on May 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM

He’ll have more experience by 2012, but it probably won’t be the kind that will give him more credibility as a presidential candidate. After 4 more years of supporting and voting for every big-government give-away bill, proposing more affirmative action and racial preference bills, and rejecting bills to provide better national security and promote energy independence, even Dims will recognize that Obama is a non-starter.

Right now, Obama claims that he’s a non-partisan, trans-racial uniter who can get positive things done in government. Sure, there are critics who point out that he has no record of ever having done any such thing, but his supporters just come back with the defense that he hasn’t been in the Senate long enough to work his special brand of magic. That won’t be true in 2012.

AZCoyote on May 10, 2008 at 3:19 PM

certain ideas Obama espouses are what Millennials really believe as a generation.–Weebork

MSM on target. Teach them in their youth to refute the thought process and to neglect the mental computations, and they will never depart.

As time goes on, more and more of them are going to be in the voting age category.

All the more important to jolt them from their drug induced, media hyped, public educated limited response program of existence. At least insist on having your say, of being heard, not being denigrated for thinking.

maverick muse on May 10, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Get ahold of Obama’s newest faux pas with Lebanon and Hezbollah. Hear that forked tongue speaking packaged sound bites from both sides of his mouth!

maverick muse on May 10, 2008 at 3:24 PM

Even you have to admit, Allah, that being down by 23 points in West Virginia to Hillary is a very bad place to be for the presumptive Dem nominee.
Nessuno on May 10, 2008 at 1:41 PM

Oh, please. That result has been a given for months. And Obama’s support is pretty much as Begala described: eggheads (academia) and African-Americans.

But those are Democrats. Will they flock to McCain, who’s about exciting as a day-old fried egg? He seems to think so, so it’s full speed ahead with GW, closing Gitmo, and gift-wrapped amnesty for illegals, while Barack outspends and out-dazzles him. Good luck, Johnny Mac.

Nichevo on May 10, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Maverick,

I see what you’re saying, and I agree that certain things that kids have been brought up under liberal, emotional tripe, (which we ourselves were not immune from either) but also take into consideration that these Millennials are a different generation and have different viewpoints, sometimes entirely, than Boomers and Gen-Xers. From our perspective, the “brain washing” thing seems obvious, but that’s from our point of view, generationally. These Millennials are far more civic minded than we (especially Gen-Xers) would ever consider. That is part of Obama’s appeal to this generation. It isn’t so much the liberal, left-wing, socialistic message that Obama spews is what these Millennials, as a whole, are attracted to. It is the “working together, for the common good” sort of arguments Obama espouses that are what Millennials are attracted to.

Weebork on May 10, 2008 at 3:30 PM

I don’t know, Allah. Just because this “electability” argument is Clintonian spin doesn’t mean it’s merely Clintonian spin. Lots of bitterness out there, man.

Ali-Bubba on May 10, 2008 at 3:31 PM

I’m over-simplifiying it a bit because I don’t want to overwhelm the thread with generational stuff. My point about the “for the common good” is a bit too generalized, as who isn’t for that, but it’s the way Obama delivers his message that is what Millennials are attracted to. If you go back and listen to Obama’s speeches, if you can stomach it, not from the context of socialism and happy-happy horse crap rhetoric, but from things like civic duty, “everybody benefits”, and other related aspects, it may become more clear as to what the Millennials are attracted to about Obama.

Weebork on May 10, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Here ya go:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/Apr03.html
ArmyAunt on May 10, 2008 at 1:59 PM

That’s an interesting map, and it shows McCain winning the electoral college 303-226 (with 9 ties). If anything, it understates McCain’s current strength. The map is dated April 3, and many of the surveys were taken in February or March. Obama has been weakened considerably since then. And even back in February, was Texas really a close call, as this map claims? Or take New Mexico, which the map awards to Obama. I don’t buy it; New Mexico is a neighbor of McCain’s home state and has a large Hispanic population (Hispanics have not been won over by Obama so far).

Bottom line: If even this out-of-date map, which seems to overstate Obama’s strengths, shows McCain winning by about 70 electoral votes, then McCain’s real advantage must be much larger.

Don’t worry, be happy. At this rate it will be hard even for AP to maintain his trademark pessimism.

sauropod on May 10, 2008 at 3:37 PM

She should have secretly gotten advice from Rush.

– The Cat

MirCat on May 10, 2008 at 3:37 PM

P.S. Heck, if what you are saying is true. . .which I believe it is, he would help her.

MirCat on May 10, 2008 at 3:38 PM

leftnomore on May 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM

I agree with you that the Clintons were a fantastic, political phenomenon, but the key thing to think here is that they were a political force, reserved for a particular place in history. That time of effectiveness is now gone. We are living in a different societal mood when such political strategy and tactics are not as effective as they were ten years ago. This is part of the reason why the Clinton Machine has never been able to have any impact on Obama’s success and momentum. The only weaknesses that affected Obama were self-inflicted.

Perhaps the Clintons have realized their chances at the presidency this time around are all but impossible and are making preparations to have a go around in 2012. I wouldn’t put it past them.

Weebork on May 10, 2008 at 3:39 PM

sauropod on May 10, 2008 at 3:37 PM

WI, MI, OH, MO, VA all land in McCain’s lap on the map.

He loses any two of those and the election goes to congress to decide. Good luck holding all those battleground battle ground states(esp WI), or not doing so getting congress to put McCain in the WH.

Limerick on May 10, 2008 at 3:48 PM

By the way, 2012 is also the year, according to the Mayan calendar, when the end of the world arrives. Clinton runs for the presidency in 2012. Coincidence?

Weebork on May 10, 2008 at 3:53 PM

Weebork on May 10, 2008 at 3:39 PM

The point wasn’t so much that Hillary IS imminently electible, it’s that from their insider’s perspective and experience, Obama is a sitting duck. Hill believes she has the edge on the middle class, which is true– I personally believe she could win this election.

The biggest difference between the two parties this year is this– the Dems have doubled-down and nominated a lefty hardliner. The Rep’s have gone with a moderate. This has angered many right-side conservatives, but the Republican image is tarnished this cycle. We can’t win on pleasing the right only, we have to appeal to those outside our realm. It sucks, but it’s the way it is this time around.

Let’s just see what we can put together for 2012. McCain is a place-holder, but a very important one.

leftnomore on May 10, 2008 at 3:54 PM

Weebork on May 10, 2008 at 3:53 PM

Good. My home loan doesn’t get paid off until 2028. I could use that money for something else :)

Limerick on May 10, 2008 at 3:55 PM

Those Hillary supporters are disgusting, they’re like today’s model of a Dixiecrat.

Such white trash she attracts.

AprilOrit on May 10, 2008 at 3:57 PM

They got Bill and Hillary elected twice…

With BIG assists from Ross Perot. Without that, the only Dem to be elected President since LBJ is Jimma.

The voters like to split the parties between Congress and the presidency. Why would they give whole enchilida to a guy whose whole campaign is based on a vote that he didn’t cast, in opposition to a war that we are winning?

pedestrian on May 10, 2008 at 3:58 PM

Gen-Y or Millennial generation are much more active in civic participations than we Gen-Xers. As time goes on, more and more of them are going to be in the voting age category. Obama appeals to this young generation a lot more than McCain, mostly because certain ideas Obama espouses are what Millennials really believe as a generation.

I was born in ’82, so I’m not sure if that puts in Gen X or Y. That being said I think you are right that my age group will go out in masses and vote for Sen. Obama.

I think one of the most important issues facing our country is still the threat of terrorism and it much more important than Global Warming. Therefore, I don’t think my generation completely grasps that.

I also don’t think my age group comprehends how truly destructive universal health care could be to our medical system.

We have grown up in a media saturated society. Media appeals to our raw emotion. So they think to themselves: Of course we should have gay marriage I saw on television the other day a story of a gay person not being allowed in the hospital room to visit his/her parter. Of course war is always bad didn’t you see the pictures online of all the destruction caused by war? Of course we should have universal health care, didn’t hear the story of the lady who was denied coverage and died on the news?

Instead of trying the fix the current problems by practical solutions they want to totally reform the whole system.

terryannonline on May 10, 2008 at 3:58 PM

Limerick

HDTV!!!

(either that or fuel for your vehicle)

Weebork on May 10, 2008 at 3:59 PM

Chakra Hammer on May 10, 2008 at 2:36 PM

Executive, Legislative and, with just a small shift in the count, the Judicial…

TheCulturalist on May 10, 2008 at 4:12 PM

Terryannonline,

I think those who study this generational stuff put your generation either starting between 81 and 85. My younger sister was born in 80 and she is definitely a Xer. Let’s just, for the sake of argument, assume that 81 is the year your generation starts.

Anyway, I agree with you that your generation does not understand such things as Global Warming and Universal Healthcare. However, as I said earlier, the Millennials are much different than Boomers and Xers in that their world view is less nuanced, politicized (in the sense that we, older generations, understand politics to constitute), and abstract. I think its aspects of Obama’s speeches that attract Millennials, not the socialism. It just so happens that certain aspects of socialism use language that appeal to Millennials. This is the distinction.

For example, it isn’t necessarily that Millennials want Universal Healthcare as what Obama wants. What they pay attention to in the subject of U.H.C. is that everybody is covered, and, therefore, benefit. Secondly, Millennials, are quite trusting of government (again, do not think in terms of socialism) and support authority diligently. I’m willing to bet that if there ends up being a form of U.H.C. in the future that it will be completely different than what the likes of Obama and Clinton propose.

Millennials are a very group-oriented generation. They strive both in and for social groups and structure. They are not a bunch of individuals, like we Xers and Boomers are, but the opposite. Therefore, they will seek policies which further such group-centered activities. Obama has been the most successful in delivering this out of all the candidates.

You don’t know how right you are. The Millennials will develop completely new solutions to the problems we face today. They will reformat the system so it is workable again. They will also return civility to public office, something that both Xers and Boomers have corrupted.

Weebork on May 10, 2008 at 4:16 PM

Harridan will get the nomination. Hussein IS unelectable and the smart money knows it. She will run indi if she must.

dogsoldier on May 10, 2008 at 4:25 PM

On the other hand, there are no obvious rivals standing in her way

Stop insulting Silky Pony. And what about Algore. And Cynthia McKinney. And Al Sharpton. And Joe Biden. And Ralph Nader. And Claire “Big Oil is fixing gas prices” McCaskill. And Debbie “More drilling raises oil prices” Stabenow.

Their stable runneth over.

misterpeasea on May 10, 2008 at 4:33 PM

dogsoldier on May 10, 2008 at 4:25 PM

I had wondered about that too. Talk about a Nuclular Option.

(yes, I know it’s miss-speeled, calm down)

TheCulturalist on May 10, 2008 at 4:35 PM

You don’t know how right you are. The Millennials will develop completely new solutions to the problems we face today. They will reformat the system so it is workable again. They will also return civility to public office, something that both Xers and Boomers have corrupted.

I’m not as confident as you. Like I said earlier I think millennials will come up solutions based on emotions and not practicality. This discussion kind of reminds of the discussion that Bill Clinton was having with college reporters that Allahpundit posted a while back. He was trying to explain to them that their solutions might actually have some real world negative implications.

terryannonline on May 10, 2008 at 4:40 PM

Succinctly….EXCELLENT!!!!

hoi polloi on May 10, 2008 at 4:50 PM

bikermailman on May 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM

I don’t know that McCain will win, but you’re right about mucking it up. Just when I thought I MIGHT have to eat my words and vote for McCain because Obama is definitely more left than Hillary and the more I see him, the more I realise what a demagogue he is. McCain saved me from that embarrassment however, when he started talking about having a work programme for illegals,(‘we need it’), reaffirmed not drilling in ANWR (becaue he wants to preserve beautiful places), moaned about Global Warming, dealing with the ’12 million’ illegals here (meaning path to citizenship), launching a Spanish web site on Cinco de Mayo and kissing La Raza’s ass.

Homey don’t play that. It’s going to be the locals for me and the President circle will be left blank.

linlithgow on May 10, 2008 at 6:01 PM

Classiest thing the Clinton’s have ever done.

Mike Mose on May 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM

She’ll run from the middle the next time, not much different than McCain. She can’t wait ’til 2016, no way. – Entelechy

Run from the middle . . .like McCain? . . .Oh G-d, or even . . .with McCain?

Ultimate nightmare . . .McCain/Clinton vs. Obama/Kennedy

heroyalwhyness on May 10, 2008 at 7:23 PM

Idea: D-
Execution F-
Fail.

Next.

Dave Rywall on May 10, 2008 at 7:24 PM

I like this one even more. Bamboozled indeed.

SouthernGent on May 10, 2008 at 2:09 PM

That Bamboozled video was great! Did you catch the wink and nod to the word “hoodwinked”? Is that a code word in allusion to the KKK?

The video of the thread is rather good, too. For the most part (until the end) it helps the GOP without sullying the Mav’s hands. The video is rather… unforgettable.

onlineanalyst on May 10, 2008 at 9:07 PM

Weebork —

The youth vote is a joke. Demographics? Baby bust means that senior outnumber the youth vote something like 2.5-1.

whiskey_199 on May 10, 2008 at 10:23 PM

I’ll further state that what Millenials want and what the larger group of voters (seniors) want are mutually exclusive and irreconciliable. One will have to win and the other lose.

Seniors want more retirement benefits, lower crime (they’re terribly vulnerable), lower taxes (fixed income), low inflation (again, fixed income), and above all security and stability. This means imprisoning lots of criminals, most of whom (if you believe Justice Dept. stats) will be Black. This means limited government spending to the basics: infrastructure, military, Social Security, Medicare. This means a strong dollar, little deficits. strong national security policy.

Millenials want “status” i.e. being cool (find a mate) and opportunity. Which means inflation, deficits, higher crime (gentrification opportunities to buy in cheap), etc.

Hillary supporters are right — the Clintons based their policies towards seniors plus middle aged/middle class people. By real policies that benefit those groups. Naturally at the expense of others — Blacks and younger voters (who are, well smaller groups).

Winning is about getting the largest coalition you can. Obama by virtue of his coalition (blacks, College Kids, Professionals) will lose. It’s just too small.

whiskey_199 on May 10, 2008 at 10:34 PM

If McCain does beat Obama, why doesn’t anyone consider that Obama might be back in 2012 with more experience and credibility?

alycan1 on May 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Say hello to George McGovern, Michael Dukakis, Bob Dole, Al Gore and John Kerry, just to name the most recent losers who didn’t get a return shot 4 years later…

Midas on May 10, 2008 at 10:37 PM

2012?! Dude…

Jaibones on May 10, 2008 at 10:57 PM

The audacity of expedience:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLdba0KHhHc

Don’t underestimate Obama. This guy is smart, much smarter than Hillary. He’s going to have this nation tied in knots by the time he’s finished.

Pax americana on May 10, 2008 at 11:35 PM

Karioke heaven!

Mojave Mark on May 10, 2008 at 11:45 PM

Here ya go:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/Apr03.html
ArmyAunt on May 10, 2008 at 1:59 PM

This map has been repaced by a newer one, which shows Obama and McCain neck and neck.

Remember that electoral-vote.com is run by a Democratic stooge, who voted for Kerry in 2004, shrills for Obama, and regularly runs anti-GOP and anti-McCain stories on his website.

Try this GOP-friendly site. This race will be tough – the GOP and McCain will need every vote they can muster if they are to prevent Democratic hegemony for the first time in a generation.

Obama has the media in the bag (except Fox). Obama has the Universities in the bag. Obama has the black vote in the bag. That is a pretty powerful combination guys and gals.

Pax americana on May 10, 2008 at 11:47 PM

If Obama steals the nomination from Hillary, she can easily get out of compaigning for him by coming down with some non-fatal but temporarily-debilitating (female) illness soon after the Convention.

Lasting till McCain’s nomination next January.

Obama, meanwhile, will be scutinzed to a pinhead by this coming November and will lose big time.

Because he is a flyweight, inexperienced, double-talking, crank-hugging, terrorist-palsy-ing, tin-hatted tyro.

profitsbeard on May 11, 2008 at 12:10 AM

That was a good video. As far as B. Hussein running in 2012, maybe Bobbie Jindal will run and Barry Hussein Obama will get his a$$ handed to him. Clinton will be an old hen by then, ready for the soup. That Kerry remark was really something though. What an idiot.

UnEasyRider on May 11, 2008 at 12:53 AM

One question that no one seems to ask is:

Would the voters who voted for BHO in the primaries held before the Wright Revelations, still have voted for BHO had they known about Wright?

I think that there are very many people who would have voted differently, and quite probably will consider the November Elections as their “do-over”.

Arbalest on May 11, 2008 at 1:15 AM

McCain should win, but never count out the chances of the Left to bamboozle their way to success.
Remember Hugh’s book:”If It’s Not Close, They Can’t Cheat”!
Our duty is to get behind the most unlikable Republican candidate since the Whigs were supplanted. I don’t trust McCain, I don’t want him to be our President, but there you go. Even if our standard bearer is sub-standard, we have to play the hand dealt, jokers and all.

Doug on May 11, 2008 at 10:27 AM

Heard the latest M.O. doozie?

MICHELE OBAMA: Well see, his mother had a lot of nerve on her own, right? She thought that she could be something special, even though she grew up in a little town in Kansas.

Guess you can add Kansas to the states Obama can’t be bothered with trying to win like Kentucky and West Virginia (“even though” he’s the new Democrat standard bearer).

Which begs the obvious question, “Do you think Iowa voters are having a little buyers remorse about foisting these elitist snobs on the country?”

miles on May 11, 2008 at 11:42 AM

Maxx on May 10, 2008 at 1:34 PM

I agree, the unelectable one is Barry! How many red states are going to vote for a left-wing elitist with all the negatives of Stevenson and McGovern as well as a host of his own? The election will be a landslide and the MSM will be shocked again. And then the voters will be diagnosed as racist!

Al in St. Lou on May 11, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Now for the punchline. If Obama loses to McCain, she will be the first to call the Repubs racist. That is what the neo-cons call Chtuzpah.

RobCon on May 11, 2008 at 7:17 PM