Ultimate nuance: Fox News ripped for bias towards presidential candidate … by MSNBC

posted at 5:34 pm on May 10, 2008 by Allahpundit

The exciting, predictable, spectacularly hypocritical conclusion to yesterday’s Headlines item about the FNC reporter who felt obliged to tell Maverick that she voted for him while interviewing him. Karl wonders why this sort of thing warrants termination while Chris Matthews admitting on air to having quasi-sexual reactions to Barack Obama elicits nothing but chuckles. What amazes me is simply that Abrams, a former general manager of MSNBC, would be so comically oblivious to his own network’s renown for egregious Obama worship that he’d have the balls to level this criticism in the first place. It’d be like if O’Reilly started doing “special comments” and Abrams ripped for him for engaging in such grotesque, self-consciously theatrical demagoguery. I realize it’s important to flatter the nutroots partisans occasionally by assuring them how partisan everyone else is, but good lord. A little humility, please.

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A “POX” on “FOX” for firing her!!!!!

bucko36 on May 10, 2008 at 5:39 PM

I really strongly dislike hate liberal media.

ctmom on May 10, 2008 at 5:41 PM

At least he didn’t compare Fox to Al-Qaida, or O’Reilly to Hitler.

VolMagic on May 10, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Abrams always talks with his mouth WIDE open.
Even wider when the subject is B.Hussien. Next the lisp
will get stronger

Texyank on May 10, 2008 at 5:50 PM

I should go to their tip line, and report absurdity of MSNBC for having the gall to accuse anyone of bias.

Is Chris Matthews leg still tingling?

The talking heads over there constantly attack FOX News. Because FOX beats them handily in the ratings?

JetBoy on May 10, 2008 at 5:51 PM

You guys have to read this article from the headlines:


Great link, Allah.

funky chicken on May 10, 2008 at 5:55 PM

Yeah, I get this odd tingling down south at the mention of Matthews ,Oby or MSNBC, some people think it’s funny,but……

bbz123 on May 10, 2008 at 5:56 PM

The guy follows up a FOX new impartiality bashing with an Obama smooch up piece. This is something you might see as a joke on SNL, only it’s not.

Red Creek on May 10, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Need a tip Dan? OK.
Don’t forget to pick up Chrissy’s Obama 08′ kneepads at the dry cleaner’s on your way into work on Monday.

‘Hope’ that helps.

Teddy on May 10, 2008 at 5:57 PM

MSNBC is a caricature of itself. That Obama video is supposed to show that he’s so much like a common man that he wears jeans. Unfortunately, the fact that it is NEWS that he is wearing jeans means that Obama is no common man at all. . . but he does play one on TV when he wears jeans to shock everyone about how ordinary he is.

America has no right to criticize any other country over how their government and media works. This is the kind of ‘news’ that comes from democracy. . . it’s all so important.

ThackerAgency on May 10, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Remember, the audience to Abram’s show follows Olberman’s little pretend news program.

SteveMG on May 10, 2008 at 6:01 PM

MSNBC still exists?

Who knew!

Scribbler on May 10, 2008 at 6:13 PM

This is so lame. Nobody watches MSNBC (check out the comedian at this year’s White House Press Corps gala for a real nice nuke directed at them). This guy Abrams is such a joke, with his sitcom-ish sarcasm and forced theatrics. We’ve read in the press how MSNBC is now openly embracing its lefty status. In a couple of months we will see how deep a ratings bomb that is turning out to be.

Baphomet on May 10, 2008 at 6:23 PM

MSNBC news is more comical than SNL.

Hog Wild on May 10, 2008 at 6:24 PM

Dan’s fragile ego will make him drift to these comments, so Dan…

Couple things: You’ll never be your dad, stop trying to succeed in TV more than he succeeded as a Lawyer. You’re a very poor anchor and never amounted to much as a lawyer. Also, what’s up with the Game Show Host delivery? You sound like some idiot GM from a local Automobile Dealership in some lame “come on down” TV commercial. You got fired from running MSNBC now you’re trying to “out-liberal” Olbermann. He’s better at it than you are. Hell, so is Matthews, Schuster, Mika, all of your contributors, pundits and anchors. You’re a low rated anchor on a modern day version of TASS. MSNBC essentially regurgitates content from Crooks & Liars, Kos and Think Progress on a daily basis. It’s sad. Chide Fox all you want, they hand you your ass every night in the ratings.

AYNBLAND on May 10, 2008 at 6:24 PM

funky chicken 5:55 link

But McCain faces hurdles in getting through to the public with that message. The Iraq War is deeply unpopular, which matches Obama’s position better than McCain’s. Republicans remain unpopular. Most voters believe the country is headed in the wrong direction, that economic conditions will get worse and that gas prices are likely to stay high, said Democratic pollster Anna Greenberg.

Who would have guessed? McCain faces the same hurdles as Fred Thompson did in “getting through to the public” via the MSM. So, at least do as Fred did and PUBLISH on the internet. McCain enjoys invitations on television and has the official GOP party network at his disposal (yes, the pun that hurts).

That Anna Greenberg, a DNC propagandist and pollster, expects America to buy what she’s selling is preposterous. To purport anything non-DNC to be unpopular and getting worse in the wrong direction is incriminating to say the least.

I’m not buying that sh*t. Those who ignore their own sensabilities in order to consume popular sh*t with gusto have their place on the Left in the DNC “Last Supper”.

maverick muse on May 10, 2008 at 6:27 PM

I thought I was watching an episode of “E” Talk Soup.

multiuseless on May 10, 2008 at 6:27 PM

A family member is an Obama supporter. She admitted that her support is purely emotional. She also said she prefers MSNBC to all other channels. When I pointed out just how bias they are in favor of Barack, her response was, “So.”

Logic and facts do not matter to those worshiping at the Obama alter – and that encompasses the self-professed impartial media covering the campaign.

bains on May 10, 2008 at 6:28 PM

Let’s give MSNBC credit. Video from there works!! This is unlike Red Lasso, which usually doesn’t work on non-Windows machines. And I don’t know that it works on Windows since I rarely use it.

(Admittedly, Red Lasso does sometimes work on Linux, but it seems like that the percentage of times that it does work on Linux is going down.)

thuja on May 10, 2008 at 6:28 PM

M S N B C stands for:


Multi Shit N Bull Crap

In other news, Chris Matthews, the anchor of MSNBC’s “Hardballs” announced that next week he will undergo a surgery.

Mr. Matthews explained in a press release that after enduring the hardships of uncontrollable erections while listening to Barack Obama’s stomp speeches across the country, he felt necessary to remove his penis because of the terrible pain his permanent erected and swollen organ has caused him. Mr. Matthews denied reports of breast implants but did not rule out a vaginal implant.

Indy Conservative on May 10, 2008 at 6:28 PM

I’ve noticed some Fox commentators almost stumping for Hillary lately. This probably irritates the Obama people (MSNBC) more than any perceived McCain support at Fox., but they can’t very well accuse Fox of supporting a Democrat, can they?

forest on May 10, 2008 at 6:30 PM

This is like Larry Flint complaining Maxim has pictures of women on its pages.

Beto Ochoa on May 10, 2008 at 6:35 PM

I got a thrill going up my leg.. >;D

Chakra Hammer on May 10, 2008 at 6:41 PM

Fox should not have fired her. She told McCain privately that she voted for him – big freaking deal!
Dan Abrams wears the worst rats nest er toupee since Howard Cosell.

Hilts on May 10, 2008 at 6:51 PM

Fox should not have fired her over such a trivial matter, a warning was all that was in order.

Maxx on May 10, 2008 at 6:55 PM

Another reason that “taking the high road” in this election is a really bad idea. The Left will never do it.

SouthernGent on May 10, 2008 at 7:01 PM

Abrams is the preening peacock of the little peacock, MSNBC.

Entelechy on May 10, 2008 at 7:01 PM

“Look at Obama, strutting of his stuff” coming from Dan Abrams was the real ‘funny’, and he’s clueless about it.

Entelechy on May 10, 2008 at 7:03 PM

“Strutting off his stuff”, with no criticism whatever about the media slobbering and wetting of pants – – the segment was meant to be critical of all other…but NOT on Obama…and they claim partiality by others?

Entelechy on May 10, 2008 at 7:05 PM

NBC,MSNBC are jokes and that’s the bottom line. FOX is the only station out there that comes close to even getting out another side of the story. They go up against the other 95% of the media that is willing to have Obamas love child if asked.

I cant even watch the shows on NBC anymore, I turn off the halftime show for Sun night football. Imagine that turning off something that offends you, what a concept.

TroubledMonkey on May 10, 2008 at 7:10 PM

Uh, yea how could MSNBC make such an accusation about a network that has repeatedly tried to smear Obama through smear campaigns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouKJixL–ms)
and airs a Sean Hannity program that is so biased you require the IQ of a 5 year old not to realize the ‘reporting’ is fixed.

One very small difference between the networks: MSNBC gives Republican conservatives prime time shows in Tucker Carlson (although recently canceled for low ratings) and Joe Scarborough. Of course, no one likes to count in Carlson who suggested that only the retarded enjoy watching Fox News, and who doesn’t plan patsy to every stupid policy enacted by the wonder boy, George W.

Let’s see Fox News introduce one strong liberal to prime time, and then you’re have justification for whining.

bayam on May 10, 2008 at 7:26 PM

I think MSNBC is just doubling down on their own bias. They really want to be the nutroots network. It seems like a conscious choice on their part, possibly trying to spihon off some of CNN viewership. Whatev’s they can stay 3rd in the ratings for as long as they desire.

Theworldisnotenough on May 10, 2008 at 7:37 PM

MSNBC needs to do some worthwhile reporting and tell us the resson why Mexico is NOT sending a team to the upcoming Olympics in Communist China…

DfDeportation on May 10, 2008 at 7:44 PM

You mean THIS Dan Abrahms arguing about objectivity ?

William Amos on May 10, 2008 at 8:13 PM

What’s the big deal? Most of the media is left wing, fox is right wing. All news outlets spin their stories.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Ares on May 10, 2008 at 8:39 PM

Screw MSNBC and that gaggle of idiots they try to pass off as journalists.

rplat on May 10, 2008 at 8:42 PM

This guy is such a tool.

ggoofer on May 10, 2008 at 8:47 PM

Great link William. I think Allah should add it to the post.

It`s hilarious to see Abrams having an absolute meltdown because he can`t even get his liberal guest to agree with him. His attempt to equate 20 years of listening to a pastor who Obama himself called his spiritual advisor to 2 pastors who McCain asked for a endorsement (no other link was made) is so absurd he`s moving into the other Dan`s territory (Rather).

I just loved the part when he `forgot` about Obama`s complete denial about ever hearing anything and sudden reversal when people pointed out that most of Wrights speeches were peppered with outrageous of language; even the one where Obama takes his book title from.

The best part was his last clip of Parsley talking about Planned Parenthood. Once again his liberal guest has to point out that what the pastor is saying is actually correct. You`d think after all these years someone in the journalistic field would have at least stumbled over the history of PP. Ignorance is bliss at MSNBC I guess; and often is rewarded with it`s own primetime slot apparently.

And nothing at all phases Abrams in his absolute crusade to try and tarnish McCain.

Bic667 on May 10, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Ever notice how the number of grinning idiots on the Left is growing faster than the combined populations of India and China? Now Dan Abrams has volunteered to be included on the list. Too bad we can’t find a way to stop them before they grin again.

sondiehl on May 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM

repeat statement learned by years of observation.

If a Democrate charges somone with a action then the Democrats either: 1)Have done it themselves, 2) Are doing it themselves, or 3) Intend to do it themselves soon.


allrsn on May 10, 2008 at 10:30 PM


Dan Abrams acts/looks/thinks like he’s Keith Olbermann’s younger cousin. Dan Abrams talking about Fox News lack of objectivity (in Dan Abram’s opinion) is like Keith Olbermann suggesting that ‘we as a nation need to rise above partisanship.’ As everyone mentioned earlier, Chris Matthews tingling up his leg for Obama and comparing Obama to Abraham Lincoln, this Dan Abrams attacking Fox News with such a smug look on his face makes me want to spit in their face if I ever got the chance.

Sorry. Got a little Geraldo there for a moment. Sorry.

The only honest and appropriate word to describe Olbermann or Abrams is d**ch*b*g. And I mean that in the most sincere as I can possibly convey it.

wise_man on May 10, 2008 at 10:34 PM

She was a PA — the person who gets lunches — now a journalist. It’s not evidence of insitutional bias but that they need to have higher standards for whom gets to hold the mic.

Also.. he followed a story about how Fox is biased and only feigns objectivity with video of the press swooning over Obama in his designer jeans and he didn’t notice the irony? What a tool.

Spolitics on May 10, 2008 at 11:11 PM


jgapinoy on May 10, 2008 at 11:13 PM

Let’s see Fox News introduce one strong liberal to prime time, and then you’re have justification for whining.

bayam on May 10, 2008 at 7:26 PM

I guess you missed Alan Colmes ?

William Amos on May 10, 2008 at 11:22 PM


Sure, Fox tilts to the right… Alan Colmes, Jerry Rivers, & Greta Van Susteren notwithstanding.
The “Balanced” is that they balance all of the liberal bias of NBC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN, PBS, & NPR.

jgapinoy on May 10, 2008 at 11:29 PM

I agree with her getting the boot. She was holding a FOX news mike while sucking up to Maverick…What did she expect? If FOX hadnt of fired her, the network would be doing exactly what MSNBC does in its daily Obama circle j*rk. FOX isn’t going to sacrifice it’s #1 ratings over some gushy…and expendable, 20 something…

CapitalistPig on May 10, 2008 at 11:47 PM

Oh and Abrams is such a tool. You could practically see him blushing like a school girl when talking about Obama’s jeans. That must have been the quickest time delay between hipocrytical statements evah…

CapitalistPig on May 10, 2008 at 11:53 PM

Sure, Fox tilts to the right… Alan Colmes, Jerry Rivers, & Greta Van Susteren notwithstanding.
The “Balanced” is that they balance all of the liberal bias of NBC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN, PBS, & NPR.

jgapinoy on May 10, 2008 at 11:29 PM

Not to mention the exorbitant amount of air time given by FNC to people like Bob Beckel, Kirsten Powers, Lanny Davis and so on….

HawaiiLwyr on May 11, 2008 at 12:54 AM


jgapinoy on May 10, 2008 at 11:29 PM

You forgot ABC.

Entelechy on May 11, 2008 at 1:17 AM

You’ve been in rare form lately, AP. Seriously. Good stuff.

Professor Blather on May 11, 2008 at 1:27 AM

Hey, why isn’t this liberal reporter get fired for being an activist, or NBC’s Meredith Viera who marched in a war protest??

In addition to giving $500 to Democratic congressional candidate Jim Esch, Omaha TV reporter Calvert Collins posted a photo of the two of them on her Facebook page, saying, “Vote for him Tuesday, Nov. 7!” She says her father wrote the check, and she was just building rapport with candidates.
There’s other fine examples of liberal media members political activism as well.

The Top Seattle Times Editor Admits Majority of Newsroom Votes ‘Blue,’ Driven by ‘Activism’

Fire all them too!!

BobUSMC on May 11, 2008 at 4:11 AM

Also, MSNBC is the newsroom that just boos as you guys and Newsbusters reported.

But hey, they’re not biased or anything, huh?

BobUSMC on May 11, 2008 at 4:16 AM

The guy follows up a FOX new impartiality bashing with an Obama smooch up piece. This is something you might see as a joke on SNL, only it’s not.

Doesn’t abrahms heavy breathing over the barry video show partiallity?

peacenprosperity on May 11, 2008 at 6:03 AM

It the implication of your headline is that MSNBC is more biased than Fox then I’d say you’re shutting your ears and not listening. Even with the old meme about Matthews being in the tank for Obama, Abrams himself just aired an hour long special specifically about Wright, something Fox hasn’t even done yet. One thing I notice about all of the charges of bias from MSNBC is that almost all of them (Save comments from Olbermann and his typical grandstanding) end in February.

And as for Matthews, what’s funny is that you pretend he hasn’t and doesn’t continue to have similar man-crushes on those on the right. Have you listened to him prattle on about how heroic and amazing your boy John is?

Typhonsentra on May 11, 2008 at 7:07 AM

I think the work is Chutsbah!

robo on May 11, 2008 at 9:38 AM

That was the most hypocritical thing I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Fox actually fired this woman– the equivalent at MSNBC would have been to give her her own show.

morganfrost on May 11, 2008 at 10:03 AM

Sure, Fox tilts to the right… Alan Colmes, Jerry Rivers, & Greta Van Susteren notwithstanding.
The “Balanced” is that they balance all of the liberal bias of NBC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN, PBS, & NPR.

jgapinoy on May 10, 2008 at 11:29 PM

Fox tilt to the right is just a slight tilt which even some on the left have become to appreciate. My brother and sister-in-law were big supporters of Hillary and donated to her campaign. Despite being on the left, they discovered that Fox was the only network that was fair to her. While I doubt that the Hillary Dems will resist the Kossack’s Fox bashing, they will entertain private doubts.

thuja on May 11, 2008 at 11:12 AM

I followed his recommendation and visited verdict.msnbc.com and gave them a tip. Here’s what I wrote, I doubt anyone at MSNBC will read it:

On Friday’s Beat the Press you slammed Fox News very hard about the young reporter saying she voted for McCain in the primary. I find it incredibly ironic and hypocritical that ANYONE from MSNBC has the balls to make such a claim when it is painfully obvious to the world that MSNBC is in the tank for Obama. Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann… for crying out loud these guys are practically gay for Barack and their comments back me up. ONLY Fox News has given air time to all of the candidates and ONLY Fox News lets both sides of a story get reported. When was the last time Keith interviewed anyone that he disagreed with? Has he ever done that? Even CNN allows for alternative viewpoints more than MSNBC.

Your baseless comments during this segment have done more to invalidate your legitimacy as a reporter than anything said on Fox News. Sadly, your liberal bent makes it impossible for you to even comprehend the idea that you might be wrong. Conservatives embrace dialog and debate based on facts and data while Liberals like you deal only with emotions while stifling anyone that you disagree with.

Enjoy your airtime while you can.

cannonball on May 11, 2008 at 11:18 AM

In my book, Fox is well within its rights to fire the young lady. In order to defend itself against allegations of partiality, it must uphold the standards that the media is supposed to espouse. This was not an opinion piece/program, but a news reporter (unlike some of the examples given, such as Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, et al). As such, the standard is raised.

By holding themselves to this standard, they can then rightfully slam the other networks for their partiality and fawning over liberal candidates/causes by their reporters and pundits (because other networks such as MSNBC are dominated by far left-leaning libs). It is not lost on me that MSNBC is being hypocritical, but this reaction allows Fox to lead by example and then turn to the other networks and demand the same. In the end, Fox seems to be on higher ground with more integrity (although I feel sorry for the reporter that lost her job).

Geministorm on May 12, 2008 at 9:35 AM

BTW, it is truly a LOL moment when Abrams says, “…feign objectivity…”. That could have been a key moment in any comedy program skit. I can’t imagine a better ‘pot calling the kettle black’ type of analogy. It could have only been made better if Abram’s was actually cognizant of his comment’s hypocrisy.

Geministorm on May 12, 2008 at 9:57 AM

I’ve asked it before and didn’t get a response but I would like to know how MSNBC is considered so awful by Obama supporters and is simultaneously considered as totally pro-Obama by others.

They have been as obsessive in their coverage of his gaffes and the reverend Wright frenzy as any network on TV. I’m just curious to hear people’s take on this.

PaulD on May 12, 2008 at 10:12 AM

Yea, pots and kettles are bangin’ against each other in the breeze of the hot, moist air MSNBC puts out as they get thrills running up the legs of their dasheekis. (That isn’t the right term, but it makes the point,(?)

Christine on May 12, 2008 at 2:30 PM

PaulD…it just goes to show that if the news is hot, they cover it. (There must be a bi-polar aspect to the left’s news coverage as well). They may be deep-sixing Obama ‘cuz they see how much water he’s taken on. Heck, they may want to elect McCain because, not only did they choose him, they have grown so used to blaming the ‘Repub’ president that they can’t bear to help bring about the massive chaos that an Obama administration would produce.
Even the ‘fair and balanced’ FNC covers the most gratuitous murders, scandals, and celeb ‘news’ just because they know that millions of us would rather know about all that than the real news, (actually, some of it IS dangerous to your health). For this reason, I watch

Christine on May 12, 2008 at 2:47 PM

…less than an hour a week-day.

Christine on May 12, 2008 at 2:48 PM