Are you ready for the John McCain global warming tour?

posted at 5:55 pm on May 9, 2008 by Allahpundit

Why not? After six months of ads and op-eds and radio broadcasts about Bill Ayers and Wright, come Election Day there’ll be nary a conservative left in America who won’t be eager to pull the lever for him no matter how far left he tacks. Amnesty and carbon offsets and campaign finance reform for all!

“John McCain is going to be doing more of these themed tours of America, and one of them is going to be on energy and global climate change. It could get him into trouble with Republicans, of course, and with the base, who don’t think there is much climate change going on, but it is something that he’s very passionate about and he’s going to be talking about it.”

A pander timed to coincide with the general election? Nah, he’s been pushing this for ages. Here’s his radio ad on the subject from last fall, and here’s his position — reminiscent of Pascal’s wager — from that awful GOP debate with Nurse Ratched. Exit quotation: “Way to go, global warming folks!”


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Did you just make up the word “Nahm”?

Vizzini on May 9, 2008 at 5:58 PM

Is Global Warming still dumping snow on Ed’s lawn?

lorien1973 on May 9, 2008 at 5:58 PM

With this idiot running for President as the representative of my beloved Republican Party, I can only wish that this is all a bad dream.

The upside, however, is that I’m becoming quite wealthy selling $120+ barrel oil, thanks to schmucks like McCain and his Democrat buddies.

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

I’m really going to have to hold my nose when I vote for the turkey.

Maxx on May 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

After six months of ads and op-eds and radio broadcasts about Bill Ayers and Wright, come Election Day there’ll be nary a conservative left in America who won’t be eager to pull the lever for him no matter how far left he tacks. Amnesty and carbon emissions and campaign finance reform for all!

Allahpundit- the only guy I know of that trolls his own blog ;)

I’m sure there will be some conservatives who change their minds and vote for him, but only with nose firmly clamped shut and a long shower afterwards.

Hollowpoint on May 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

If you think that, come November, Conservatives like myself will vote for McCain, then you must be dreaming.

Hell should freeze first so I can vote for this piece of garbage.

Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

After six months of ads and op-eds and radio broadcasts about Bill Ayers and Wright, come Election Day there’ll be nary a conservative left in America who won’t be eager to pull the lever for him no matter how far left he tacks.

Ummm, yeah…don’t go holding your breath on that happening…at least this conservative ain’t pulling that lever.

ihasurnominashun on May 9, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Hell should freeze first so I can vote for this piece of garbage.

Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

The way that the climate’s going, it WILL freeze over by then…

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Ummm, yeah…don’t go holding your breath on that happening…at least this conservative ain’t pulling that lever.

You’ll pull it, dude.

Allahpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Hey, we all knew this, this is nothing new. It’s all the more reason to get out and vote. If you can’t stomach voting for McCain, I don’t blame you. But get out and vote for your congressmen and local offices. If America is to ever regain it soul it’s going to be from the bottom-up…. obviously not from the top-down.

Maxx on May 9, 2008 at 6:05 PM

Hell should freeze first so I can vote for this piece of garbage.

Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

The way that the climate’s going, it WILL freeze over by then…

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Yeah, Hell will freeze and it’s called “Global Warming.”

The biggest scam in Human History.

Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:06 PM

I keep waffling. I want to vote for him so Obama doesn’t become the next POTUS, but I don’t really like him either.

Kind of like picking the best of 2 bad choices. I don’t really want to pull the lever, but if I don’t something worse than McCain will happen.

So tell me- is this going to help him with fundraising with traditional conservatives? I’m betting lots of wallets stay closed this cycle. Obama will score record contributions, McCain will get very little, and will face an overwhelming ad budget advantage by Obama.

Good luck with that.

cs89 on May 9, 2008 at 6:08 PM

If you think that, come November, Conservatives like myself will vote for McCain, then you must be dreaming.

Get over yourself, TRUE CONSERVATIVE.

I’m really getting tired of the masochistic loser contingency. Anyone who says that they’re not voting for McCain and who is wasting their time posting here is so full of shiat it’s not funny. It’s pathetic.

ninjapirate on May 9, 2008 at 6:09 PM

Ha, just got through emailing McCain’s campaign and chewing him out over this before refreshing HA and seeing you’ve now posted on it. Bottom line is I said I will still vote for him as the lesser of 2 (well 3 as it stands today, I guess) evils, but I won’t be enthusiastic about talking others in to doing so as long as he keeps this crap up. We’ve got (at least) decades worth of our own oil that is just waiting to be drilled and we could bring the price of oil/gas WAY down if we’d just f-ing do it! In those decades, certainly technology will come up with an alternative (and not the sham that ethanol is/was). I just keep praying that after McCain is elected, some time in his first term we can totally call “global warming” a bust. I know the nuts are desperate to hold on to it, but I’m really hoping it falls apart just enough that McCain has to recognize it and that enough Americans recognize it that we can somehow get drilling going.

RightWinged on May 9, 2008 at 6:10 PM

After six months of ads and op-eds and radio broadcasts about Bill Ayers and Wright, come Election Day there’ll be nary a conservative left in America who won’t be eager to pull the lever for him no matter how far left he tacks.

Really??? RINOs on their own this time. Only voting down ballot. Chill Out. Senor Juan that “‘in sickness or health’ marriage vow part only counts if you aren’t cheating with an heiress” McVainity will win the state in which I reside, but not with my vote…

Branch Rickey on May 9, 2008 at 6:11 PM

I’m just going to take this opportunity to humbly thank the brave scientists and politicians like Senator James Inhofe who are chipping away at the Goebbels Warming swindle.

RushBaby on May 9, 2008 at 6:11 PM

Everyone must have missed the memo – Global Warming Climate Change.

TooTall on May 9, 2008 at 6:13 PM

If you think that, come November, Conservatives like myself will vote for McCain, then you must be dreaming.

Get over yourself, TRUE CONSERVATIVE.

I’m really getting tired of the masochistic loser contingency. Anyone who says that they’re not voting for McCain and who is wasting their time posting here is so full of shiat it’s not funny. It’s pathetic.

ninjapirate on May 9, 2008 at 6:09 PM

I don’t vote for garbage, left or right.

I’ll cast my vote for whom I deem worthy. And if there’s no one worthy of my vote, then I’ll vote for myself.

As for posting on blogs and message boards, it’s not of your business what I’m doing.

I have the right as much as you do to have a say about any topic.

If you don’t like it, tough.

Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:13 PM

Allahpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:04 PM

As much as people gripe a good chunk will pull the trigger for McCain. They may never admit it, but they will. For one’s sanity they should admit it sooner like I did. You’ll feel better while still complaining about McCain’s bad ideas and his great job of alienating conservatives.

seanhackbarth on May 9, 2008 at 6:14 PM

Everyone must have missed the memo – Global Warming Climate Change Cow Fart Hoax.

TooTall on May 9, 2008 at 6:13 PM

sorry, couldn’t help myself

Branch Rickey on May 9, 2008 at 6:15 PM

You’ll pull it, dude.

Allahpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:04 PM

First of all…I’m a chick. LOL and I am in the tank for Fred! I will be taking my pen to the polls in November.

ihasurnominashun on May 9, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Everyone must have missed the memo – Global Warming Climate Change.

TooTall on May 9, 2008 at 6:13 PM

Yes, that’s the new Republican term for “Global Warming.”

Tell me, what’s the difference between a Republican and a Democrat?

They are getting closer and closer in terms of stupid ideas and nonsense.

“Climate change,” is something like “Undocumented Workers,” etc.

Being an Independent Conservative such as myself gives you freedom to think, chose and decide sanely, wisely and decisively.

Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Hell should freeze first so I can vote for this piece of garbage.
Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

just for you, now you can vote McCain.

Oldnuke on May 9, 2008 at 6:19 PM

Branch Rickey on May 9, 2008 at 6:15 PM

No problem.

TooTall on May 9, 2008 at 6:19 PM

Really??? RINOs on their own this time.

Branch Rickey on May 9, 2008 at 6:11 PM

So you now have to be a RINO to vote for McCain? If so, heh. Reagan and Buckley could endorse him, and they’d be called RINOs by the anti-McCain crowd.

amerpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:19 PM

First of all…I’m a chick. LOL and I am in the tank for Fred! I will be taking my pen to the polls in November.

ihasurnominashun on May 9, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Meanwhile FRED!!!!! will be backing and voting for his friend and fellow McCain-Feingold supporter, McCain.

amerpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:20 PM

You’ll pull it, dude.

Allahpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Yeah. On election day, millions of conservatives will stay at home and pull it, rather than committing the crime of voting for… well, whatever the hell McCain is.

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 6:21 PM

come Election Day there’ll be nary a conservative left in America who won’t be eager to pull the lever for him no matter how far left he tacks

I’m one of those nary wary conservatives. I voted Libertarian in 2004 over Bush’s liberalism. Bush is Avogadro’s Number times better than McCain. J-Mac doesn’t stand a chance.

Valiant on May 9, 2008 at 6:21 PM

amerpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Well, good for Fred!…he’s already said his support of McCain-Feingold was a mistake. He’s still getting my vote, regardless of who he votes for.

ihasurnominashun on May 9, 2008 at 6:22 PM

I wonder if McCain realizes what he’s setting himself up for.

The two most dmoestically liberal Presidents of the last 40 years, Nixon and Bush, are the two most viscerally hated by the Left.

misterpeasea on May 9, 2008 at 6:22 PM

Yeah. On election day, millions of conservatives will stay at home and pull it, rather than committing the crime of voting for… well, whatever the hell McCain is.

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 6:21 PM

“millions” will stay home? Don’t count on it. All do respect to my fellow HAers, the sampling we have here isn’t always representative of our fellow countrymen. Hot Air readers overhwhelmingly backed Fred. That went well…

amerpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:23 PM

You’ll pull it, dude.

Allahpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:04 PM

I predict we won’t have to for McCain. Something is going to happen…that’s my prediction. No, I’m not wishing anything bad on him…I find him at least tolerable on some issues.

SouthernGent on May 9, 2008 at 6:24 PM

Hopefully McCain will do some listening as well as talking, and so could actually learn something.

Maybe he can go on a nationwide tour this summer of the thermometer locations and notice how many of them are right next to air conditioning vents.

http://www.surfacestations.org/odd_sites.htm (check out the pie charts on the home page there too)

pedestrian on May 9, 2008 at 6:24 PM

What’s really sad is the way the public schools are indoctrinating children, scaring kids, making them believe they are in peril, just to sell the global warming scam. If you’ve got kids in the public schools I hope you take time to sit them down have and go over the facts. Tell them there is absolutely no truth to it.

This is what Germany did to the kids too during the war, turned them into little brown shirt informants on their family. It’s really ugly stuff, I don’t know when America is going to wake up.

Maxx on May 9, 2008 at 6:24 PM

Being an Independent Conservative such as myself gives you freedom to think, chose and decide sanely, wisely and decisively.

Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Does your mother know your on the computer?

Maxx on May 9, 2008 at 6:26 PM

Hell should freeze first so I can vote for this piece of garbage.
Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

just for you, now you can vote McCain.

Oldnuke on May 9, 2008 at 6:19 PM

You’re talking to a Michiganian living in Florida.

Thanks for the pic, but no. Give a pic of the other Hell and I may think about it.

Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:28 PM

Being an Independent Conservative such as myself gives you freedom to think, chose and decide sanely, wisely and decisively.

Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Does your mother know your on the computer?

Maxx on May 9, 2008 at 6:26 PM

Don’t let me go there.

Gas and groceries prices are so high I can’t afford to be banned.

Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:31 PM

He’s bring the show to Seattle. Home to the radical lefty environazi’s. Does he really think he will win votes in Seattle because he’s flying the algore colors? These guys have already climbed on the Barry Bandwagon in a big way.

thatcher on May 9, 2008 at 6:31 PM

“millions” will stay home? Don’t count on it. All do respect to my fellow HAers, the sampling we have here isn’t always representative of our fellow countrymen. Hot Air readers overhwhelmingly backed Fred. That went well…

amerpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:23 PM

Well, look at his fundraising from us way-wealthier Republicans. Obama’s getting more money from semiemployed Fijian convenience store shelf stockers than McCain is getting from rich conservative Republican businessmen. What does that tell you? If it weren’t for his wife’s jet, McCain would have to travel around in a rented schoolbus with a can of fix-a-flat.

I didn’t back Fred, nor did most of the HA’ers I remember. Personally, I like my candidates vaguely conscious.
Fred’s energy level reminded me of Perry Como.

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 6:32 PM

The upside, however, is that I’m becoming quite wealthy selling $120+ barrel oil, thanks to schmucks like McCain and his Democrat buddies.

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

And quite a few of us are mostly working on figuring out how the hell you turn switchgrass into ethanol (including getting it out of the field and to the processing plant) without USING more energy than you can possibly hope to create.

Oh well, I guess it’s good to take advantage of government waste. If Capitalism is usurped by government mandates, you’d better try to capitalize on it!

NTWR on May 9, 2008 at 6:33 PM

Well, look at his fundraising from us way-wealthier Republicans. Obama’s getting more money from semiemployed Fijian convenience store shelf stockers than McCain is getting from rich conservative Republican businessmen.

That’s not only McCain. Look at the Republican Congressional committees. Republican candidates, with the exception of Paul, were getting creamed in the primary, too.

I didn’t back Fred, nor did most of the HA’ers I remember. Personally, I like my candidates vaguely conscious.
Fred’s energy level reminded me of Perry Como.

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 6:32 PM

Most HAers did back Fred. I commented several times about how Fred threads would consist of “Fred!” or “Run, Fred, Run!”.

amerpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:35 PM

Can’t make this crap up. On Fox right now they’re reporting that Estonia has sent out notices to cattle farmers that they are going to be taxed on cow farts…uh methane emissions.

Oldnuke on May 9, 2008 at 6:35 PM

Is Newt joining him on this idiotic tour?

Buy Danish on May 9, 2008 at 6:41 PM

pedestrian on May 9, 2008 at 6:24 PM

Thanks, that link is awesome! Without an agreed upon Standard for where, when, and how we measure temperature we can never say we really know what’s going on, temperature-wise.

NTWR on May 9, 2008 at 6:41 PM

Can’t make this crap up. On Fox right now they’re reporting that Estonia has sent out notices to cattle farmers that they are going to be taxed on cow farts…uh methane emissions.

Oldnuke on May 9, 2008 at 6:35 PM

1) I wonder how long cows have been farting?

2) Alway about the money isn’t it?

3) Methane is much heavier than air, it seeps down into the ground, we pump it out and call it natural gas.

Maxx on May 9, 2008 at 6:42 PM

You’re soaking in it.

The Ugly American on May 9, 2008 at 6:44 PM

And quite a few of us are mostly working on figuring out how the hell you turn switchgrass into ethanol (including getting it out of the field and to the processing plant) without USING more energy than you can possibly hope to create.

Oh well, I guess it’s good to take advantage of government waste. If Capitalism is usurped by government mandates, you’d better try to capitalize on it!

NTWR on May 9, 2008 at 6:33 PM

You forgot wood chips (Bush mentioned it in his 2006 SOTU Address), turkey and/or chicken droppings, cooking grease, and a host of other stupid ideas.

After about 5 years in the geological consulting arena, I returned to the oil exploration business (which I had been previously doing for almost 20 years) back in the $22/barrel days of 2003 when I read the Democrat Party’s platform for its energy policy and then suddenly realized that it had NO energy policy. Zip. Nada. Just greenie weenie crap.

Knowing that demand from China and India was coming on strong, I jumped back into the field, started piling up lots of drilling leases and got ready for what was coming.

And what a tsunami!

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 6:46 PM

Can’t make this crap up. On Fox right now they’re reporting that Estonia has sent out notices to cattle farmers that they are going to be taxed on cow farts…uh methane emissions.

Oldnuke on May 9, 2008 at 6:35 PM

I’m not watching FOX now, but I believe you, I have the same problem here.

After I suggested to use human poop as a new source of energy, which I’m already using to run my Cadillac Escalade, I got a letter from the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) warning me that if I don’t reduce my poop and fart emission, they will sue my ass.

I wrote back that I paid my taxes and followed all emission regulations, but the DEP replied that odors emitted from my SUV are harmful to Global Warming and pregnant women.

Until this moment, I still can’t figure out what pregnant women have to do with my poop-efficiency SUV.

Any suggestions?

Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:46 PM

He’s his own worse enemy.

JellyToast on May 9, 2008 at 6:47 PM

I wonder if McCain realizes what he’s setting himself up for.

The two most domestically liberal Presidents of the last 40 years, Nixon and Bush, are the two most viscerally hated by the Left.

misterpeasea on May 9, 2008 at 6:22 PM

This bears repeating for all the RINOs out there. That is the thanks you get for Democrat Lite.

Valiant on May 9, 2008 at 6:51 PM

It could get him into trouble with Republicans, of course, and with the base, who don’t think there is much climate change going on,

I think this has become more and more of a non-factor — what the base thinks. The money-cons in charge of the Republican party are guiding the GOP more and more center-left (enter John McCain). They, in my opinion, view “the base”, “the common people”, “true conservatism”, (ie, those who don’t think there is much climate change going on) as more of a nuisance than anything else. The genuine conservative’s interests aren’t a priority anymore. When the Republican party sings “We can combat climate change” you know it was over for them a long time ago….

apacalyps on May 9, 2008 at 6:52 PM

Since the new slogan is “Climate Change”, we could be taxed if it’s too cold, too hot, too wet, too cloudy or too sunny. Since we’ll have political “climate scientists” making the determination … climate change will never end.

I dunno … I’m just sick of people in positions of power shoving their agendas down our throats when it should be US shoving our will down theirs.

darwin on May 9, 2008 at 6:53 PM

I forgot to add I’m bitter, clinging tightly to my guns and bible while cursing anyone who doesn’t look like me.

darwin on May 9, 2008 at 6:54 PM

NTWR on May 9, 2008 at 6:33 PM

Have you ever done an energy balance on how much energy the sun transfers to any given acre of the switchgrass you’re trying to convert into ethanol?

Oldnuke on May 9, 2008 at 6:54 PM

Actually, I’d be angrier at McCain if I didn’t think that he was an ignorant arrogant clueless bastard. And this is the final cherry on the cake.

As a person with my background and decades in the energy industry, and having watched this slow-moving disaster of an suicidal national energy “policy” unfold for so many years, I can’t vote for him. Sorry.
He’s too fricking stupid.

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 6:59 PM

Most HAers did back Fred. I commented several times about how Fred threads would consist of “Fred!” or “Run, Fred, Run!”.

amerpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:35 PM

Awww you’re bringing back some good memories there Allahp…Fredmentum…Fredalanche…sweeeet! :D

ihasurnominashun on May 9, 2008 at 7:00 PM

Ooops sorry…I mean amerpundit…my bad

ihasurnominashun on May 9, 2008 at 7:01 PM

Oldnuke on May 9, 2008 at 6:54 PM

I read a paper that showed a positive balance on the ethanol side. I don’t think the authors took into consideration the energy out put from harvesting and transferring the switchgrass from the field to the processing plant.

Considering the extremely low bulk density of most potential biofuels, the transfer of material becomes a huge factor. And if you pelletize the material to try and get more per truck-load to the plant, you’re expending energy there, too. It’s a tricky problem.

NTWR on May 9, 2008 at 7:03 PM

How can McCain just ignore the scores of scientists who debunk the Global Warming Scam and pretend to think that the Conservative base will just fall in line and vote for him? His attitude on Climate Change is somehow correct because he has believed Gore’s nonsense since 2000? What about the the increasing evidence that suggests climate change is not caused by humans? What about the overall drop in temperature in 2007?

kyarnes on May 9, 2008 at 7:05 PM

I bet McCain will lose a point or 2 or 3 because of conservatives who won’t pull the lever. Most will hold their nose and vote for him but some won’t and that could make the difference. That is, unless Barry pulls a McGovern.

thatcher on May 9, 2008 at 7:07 PM

If McCain REALLY wants to stop pumping carbon into the atmosphere he’d better be ready to fight the people he’s siding with now, because as much as they hate oil, they’re not ready to admit to the REAL solution- NUCLEAR POWER!

NTWR on May 9, 2008 at 7:08 PM

I’m just sick of people in positions of power shoving their agendas down our throats…

darwin on May 9, 2008 at 6:53 PM

Wish more people felt the same way.

apacalyps on May 9, 2008 at 7:08 PM

I’ve had it with McCain. Watching the interview last night nearly made me jump out of my bedroom window. While defending his stubborn stand over not drilling in ANWR and citing Roosevelt and a role model for environmentalist ways, McCain failed to mention that Roosevelt was president about thirty years before oil was discovered in the Middle East.

Given that Teddy also ensured that the Panama Canal was completed (and much green land was destroyed for the greater good the canal provided), I think Roosevelt would have felt that drilling in ANWR would be worth sacrificing 2000 acres of land inside the Arctic Circle to help get America off of foreign oil.

McCain also failed to mention Roosevelt’s very strong stance that immigrants need to assimilate and learn English.

I am so done with this stubborn patronizing farce of a candidate. I blame the inflexible religious right and our stupid primary system for us not having a candidate worth voting for.

cannonball on May 9, 2008 at 7:09 PM

“Hell should freeze first so I can vote for this piece of garbage.”

IIf you don’t like his politics that’s your right but you can take your trash talk and put it where the sun doesn’t shine, because jack you wouldn’t make a pimple on McCain’s butt.

rplat on May 9, 2008 at 7:13 PM

The more I think about this the more infuriated I get, as it’s akin to fiddling while Rome burns.

You know Senator McCain, while you’re out there on your “climate change” tour (while we at home getting screwed by inflated oil and food prices which can be directly blamed on Congress) how about you take a little trip to ANWR while you’re at it?

Then, maybe take a helicopter ride near the Florida coast to see the drilling that’s going on…by the Chinese.

Finally, why not have a meet and greet at some gas stations and grocery stores, and see if the American people really give a flip about climate change at this particular point in time.

Thanks in advance!

Buy Danish on May 9, 2008 at 7:14 PM

‘Help me. I’m m-e-l-t-i-n-g…’

…said the Wicked Witch of Global Warming!

apacalyps on May 9, 2008 at 7:14 PM

So you now have to be a RINO to vote for McCain? If so, heh. Reagan and Buckley could endorse him, and they’d be called RINOs by the anti-McCain crowd.

amerpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:19 PM

No, you do not HAVE to be a RINO to vote for McCain; if that is what compels you. However all I stated was that the RINOs were on their own (e.g. fundraising, volunteering, hosting coffees, etc. which I have done in past elections) to get McVain elected.

I will not support (with a vote) ANYONE who is arrogant enough to tax Americans over a giant global scam. Republicans should behave like republicans and not Democrat-Wannabes, that’s all.

Have a great weekend: amerpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:19 PM

Branch Rickey on May 9, 2008 at 7:14 PM

It’s funny how McCain gets slammed for everything just because he doesn’t suck up to the almighty right wing base.

Any candidate on the national stage right now can’t afford to just ignore global warming out of hand, and I wonder if you guys actually think anyone could.

Fred said we should make sure we find out what the “ramifications and significance of what we know and improve what we don’t know”

I agree with that and Newt when he says it’s better if we’re part of the debate instead of just having to accept whatever “solution” the left comes up with.

From McCain’s website:

He has offered common sense approaches to limit carbon emissions by harnessing market forces that will bring advanced technologies, such as nuclear energy, to the market faster, reduce our dependence on foreign supplies of energy, and see to it that America leads in a way that ensures all nations do their rightful share.

Go McCain!

myamphibian on May 9, 2008 at 7:17 PM

NTWR on May 9, 2008 at 7:03 PM

I did a few rudimentary calcs using estimated values for things like effective sunlight hours per day. I also assumed a 50% efficiency rate, which is ridiculous, and it always came out that there just isn’t enough arable land in the US to support our energy needs using biofuels. I’m not a scientist though so I’m sure I’m missing a lot of variables and as I said I made some radical assumptions.

One thing I did calculate accurately is converting corn into ethanol. That was pretty simple since all the values are known such as btu’s per gallon of ethanol and the number of pounds of corn necessary to produce a gallon. What I found was that if you converted every grain of corn in the world into ethanol it would supply less than 25% of the gasoline consumption of the US alone.

Oldnuke on May 9, 2008 at 7:17 PM

Why did we buy Alaska anyway?

JiangxiDad on May 9, 2008 at 7:20 PM

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 6:46 PM

Um, you wouldn’t happened to have any lotto number picks. LOL!

Shabbat Shalom

Branch Rickey on May 9, 2008 at 7:22 PM

I can’t vote for him. Sorry.
He’s too fricking stupid.

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 6:59 PM

Yes, I do believe he is, my friend.

JiangxiDad on May 9, 2008 at 7:23 PM

Indy Conservative on May 9, 2008 at 6:46 PM

Has anyone hit you up for highway taxes yet?

Oldnuke on May 9, 2008 at 7:24 PM

I have questions that border on O/T, but there are educated commenters here who could probably help me out…

If we were able to utilize ANWR, the gulf, the recent find in the Dakotas, etc, (which I am totally in favor of) would we be able to produce enough to have a meaningful effect on global supply? Would prices plummet or would they just dip? If we were oil-independent, would the weakness of the dollar matter?

innominatus on May 9, 2008 at 7:26 PM

What I found was that if you converted every grain of corn in the world into ethanol it would supply less than 25% of the gasoline consumption of the US alone.

Oldnuke on May 9, 2008 at 7:17 PM

And how many people would starve in the meantime?

I agree with your estimate regarding biofuels. It’s a pipe dream, from what I’ve dealt with so far.

And now that farmers are switching over to corn to get subsidies no one wants to grow the other veggies, causing their prices to skyrocket. We’re in a very foolish rut, if you ask me. I suggest nuclear power. :)

But now that oil is so expensive oil shale might be worth looking into. We have GIANT areas of oil shale that would be able to supply some of our demand. It hasn’t been feasible so far since it doesn’t become cost effective unless oil is over about $75 a barrel.

You know, if we would just SAY that we were going to open up ANWR to drilling prices would stabilize and probably drop somewhat, immediately.

NTWR on May 9, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Look, all three are on the same page on this. But which one will be more malleable to our side or at least restrictable? Maybe Fred will talk to sence into him.

Our hope lies in who he picks as Veep really.

- The Cat

P.S. I liked Mitt’s it’s not America Warming.

P.P.S. Maybe we can help Greenland’s view be heard?

MirCat on May 9, 2008 at 7:32 PM

So how is the global warming and the melting of Greenland going? Not too good. The latest publicity stunt ended in dismal failure … snowed out.

Erasmus-Coetzer said the conditions in Greenland were worse than anything she had experienced during previous expeditions to the North and the South Poles.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=139&art_id=vn20080509063053890C173182

I predict the whole global warming hoax will be ‘snowed out’ — Shortly even the biggest fools will know it’s a haox. Well, except McCain and others who want the taxes to say they can control the weather.

tarpon on May 9, 2008 at 7:33 PM

NTWR on May 9, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Vlad cut out the middle man and just burned people to heat his castle.

- The Cat

MirCat on May 9, 2008 at 7:33 PM

First, I’ve been one of ten thousand voices who are screaming that McCain is about as Conservative as Hillary. He is a Liberal.

Those who claim he won’t raise taxes, look at his global warming plan, and tell me that he won’t create a carbon tax to help fight non existent Man Made Global Warming.

I’ll vote for Obama, at least the Republicans will fight him. Instead of marching in lock step with the Maverick.

Snake307 on May 9, 2008 at 7:34 PM

Maxx on May 9, 2008 at 6:42 PM

1) Only domesticated are cows at their current numbers.

2) Would you rather ask them nicely, or alternatively arrest those who refuse?

3) You failed high school chemistry, yes? Methane has molar mass of about 16, which is less than oxygen gas’ 32 or nitrogen gas’ 28.

calbear on May 9, 2008 at 7:36 PM

It’s time to start a new party! McCain is about to destroy the Republican Party and those that enable him.

azcop on May 9, 2008 at 7:37 PM

- If we were able to utilize ANWR, the gulf, the recent find in the Dakotas, etc, (which I am totally in favor of) would we be able to produce enough to have a meaningful effect on global supply? Would prices plummet or would they just dip? If we were oil-independent, would the weakness of the dollar matter?

innominatus on May 9, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Yes. But we will not 100% “independent” – no country is 100% energy independent. Even Saudi Arabia has to import gasoline and other products.
But we will at least be able to staunch some of the hemorrhaging as our national oil prodcution declines and we start getting more oil and gas transportation products from our titanic coal reserves and (secondarily) the massive tar sands resources of neighboring Canada.
And ANWR alone will save 50-60 billion dollars per year of outflow to other oil producers. That would be great for our dollar.
ANWR will be 25-30% of our entire national oil production, and will be so for decades.
The oil prices will definitely be affected by any combination of these scenarios. The huge North Slope oil production of the late 70′s (which should be equalled by ANWR alone) literally saved us from ongoing oil price rises of OPEC in those days.

-Um, you wouldn’t happened to have any lotto number picks. LOL!

Shabbat Shalom

Branch Rickey on May 9, 2008 at 7:22 PM

I wish!
Even a stopped watch is right twice a day!

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 7:39 PM

Have you ever started to throw up, got some of it in your mouth, stopped it and swallowed it? That just happened to me when I read this entry. I call it “vomitus interruptus”

darwin-t on May 9, 2008 at 7:40 PM

I have questions that border on O/T, but there are educated commenters here who could probably help me out…

If we were able to utilize ANWR, the gulf, the recent find in the Dakotas, etc, (which I am totally in favor of) would we be able to produce enough to have a meaningful effect on global supply? Would prices plummet or would they just dip? If we were oil-independent, would the weakness of the dollar matter?

innominatus on May 9, 2008 at 7:26 PM

We could be getting oil into gas in less then 6 to 8 years {from ANWAR}; thus decreasing the speculation that the U.S. HAS to depend on other countries for oil “forever” and then that would have a readjustment of the “futures” market [barrel price]; thus lowering prices now and later. Plus, less energy would be needed to get the oil from it’s source (no actual “shipping” e.g. – not to mention the jobs) to U.S. consumers.

Best I can help. TexasJew is waaaay better to answer, but I thought I would take a stab at it….

Branch Rickey on May 9, 2008 at 7:42 PM

You’ll pull it, dude.

Allahpundit on May 9, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Nope. You will. Not me.

HYTEAndy on May 9, 2008 at 7:42 PM

Oh, I heard him say he would never vote to drill in ANWAR because it’s “pristine” – you know, like the Grand Canyon. I’d bet dollars to dough nuts that the Gulf of Mexico and off shore of California and Florida are “pristine”,too. I feel another wave of vomitus interruptus coming……

darwin-t on May 9, 2008 at 7:44 PM

What I just sent to Chairman@gop.com (sanitized for this site)

Hey Sherlock! Get a xxxx clue!!!!! There will be no $$$$ as long as McCain is doing this Global Warming and Amnesty bullxxxxx. While I’ll have to vote for him over Osama, there will be ZERO $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Dingbat63 on May 9, 2008 at 7:44 PM

Shortly even the biggest fools will know it’s a haox. Well, except McCain and others who want the taxes to say they can control the weather our liberty.

tarpon on May 9, 2008 at 7:33 PM

IMHO

Branch Rickey on May 9, 2008 at 7:46 PM

TexasJew on May 9, 2008 at 7:39 PM

So… how much land do you own around the Green River Basin or Vernal County, UT? I wish I had some dough to put down there. Then again, the railroads probably own anything below the surface, right?

NTWR on May 9, 2008 at 7:48 PM

I blame the inflexible religious right and our stupid primary system for us not having a candidate worth voting for.

cannonball on May 9, 2008 at 7:09 PM

Lol.

HYTEAndy on May 9, 2008 at 7:49 PM

I’m gonna bring a little strip of paper that has “Duncan Hunter” written on it with me to the voting booth and cover up McCain’s name with it so that I can fool myself into believing I’m voting for someone else.

There’s an idea for the RNC. They can send out templates that fit over the ballots with names of real conservatives covering up their rinos.

Buddahpundit on May 9, 2008 at 7:58 PM

I’m writing in “The sane one”: let the election officials figure it out!

landlines on May 9, 2008 at 7:58 PM

I’m trying to figure out why a fella from Arizona is complaining that it is too hot.

Limerick on May 9, 2008 at 8:01 PM

If you think that, come November, Conservatives like myself will vote for McCain, then you must be dreaming.

Hell should freeze first so I can vote for this piece of garbage.

Then you can enjoy listening to the State Information Service broadcasts telling you how great President Obama is while you wait in line for your weekly allotment of bio-gas. (Assuming you don’t live in one of the 5 states he traded to Iraq to keep them from nuking us.)

Socratease on May 9, 2008 at 8:06 PM

Whoops: ‘Iran’, not ‘Iraq’.

Socratease on May 9, 2008 at 8:07 PM

3) Methane is much heavier than air, it seeps down into the ground, we pump it out and call it natural gas.

Maxx on May 9, 2008 at 6:42 PM

WRONG!

The molecular weight of methane is 16 g/mole, molecular nitrogen is 28 g/mole and molecular oxygen is 32 g/mole. In other words methane is lighter and does not seep into the ground. The methane pumped from the ground is the byproduct of the decomposition of organic material.

Did you learn chemistry from algore?

jdkchem on May 9, 2008 at 8:10 PM

Only if John McCain is going to damn the torpedo’s,
full steam ahead and run a scorched earth policy on
going negative campaigning on Obama!

canopfor on May 9, 2008 at 8:13 PM

3) You failed high school chemistry, yes? Methane has molar mass of about 16, which is less than oxygen gas’ 32 or nitrogen gas’ 28.

calbear on May 9, 2008 at 7:36 PM

You are correct. My sincere apologies.

Maxx on May 9, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Did you learn chemistry from algore?

jdkchem on May 9, 2008 at 8:10 PM

Your right…. I’m wrong. I’m eating crow now, not very tasty.

Maxx on May 9, 2008 at 8:20 PM

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