Hillary hanging out for a VP slot, or a payday?

posted at 6:44 am on May 8, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

So says George Stephanopolous. In an exchange with Charles Gibson, the former Clinton aide says that Hillary Clinton wants to latch onto Obama for a historic run at the Presidency, even if she’s taking the supporting role, if she can’t be at the top. However, does she think that continuing to expose Obama’s weaknesses is an endearing trait?

CHARLES GIBSON: Is there any discussion of what kind of an exit strategy there would be?

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: There are various exit strategies right now. Number one would be, go out on a win. So, stay in until West Virginia, where Sen. Clinton is likely the winner, and Kentucky on May 20, and after that, bow out. Two, negotiate for the imposition of Michigan and Florida, to get those delegations seated, declare victory on that, and get out. But the big one, Charlie  and this is what some people close to the Clintons are talking about: Is there a way to negotiate a settlement with Barack Obama to have Sen. Clinton on the ticket?

CHARLES GIBSON: And what do they think?

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: It’s hard to know. I mean, first of all, would Sen. Obama go for it? Can he get over the bitterness of this campaign? Can he be convinced that it’s the strongest ticket? Third, of course, would Sen. Clinton take it? I think if it was offered in the right way, yes.

This seems rather counter-intuitive. Hillary is forcing Obama to remain on the defensive and to spend a large amount of time and money focusing on her rather than John McCain. It’s all well and good to claim that Hillary’s run made him a better candidate by forcing Obama to respond to the Wright Stuff and William Ayers controversies now — but she has also legitimized both issues for John McCain in the fall.

In other words, she’s not helping. The longer she stays in the race, the more she will weigh down on his efforts, and the longer he will have to overlook McCain as a target. If she wants the #2 slot, this isn’t the way to endear herself to Obama to get it.

How annoyed has Obama become? According to Tom Edsall at the HuffPo, so annoyed that he’s willing to buy Hillary out of the race, to the tune of $25 million or more. It almost sounds like a Ronco deal. If she leaves now, Obama would repay the $11.4 million in personal loans she herself made to the campaign. But wait — there’s more! Obama would also cover the considerable debt her campaign has racked up, as much as $15 million, by some estimates But wait — if she calls now, a special one-time offer is hers! They could arrange a leadership position in the Senate, and help assuage the bitterness between the Clintons and black voters in the party to help salvage Bill’s legacy.

The dream ticket won’t work, anyway. They don’t complement each other as much as they combine weaknesses in experience and policy and give the GOP a broader target to hit in the fall. If Hillary would have settled for a VP slot, she would have left the race after the face-saving victory in Ohio and Texas. She wants a win, or she wants a big enough payoff to make the Senate her career.


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They both suck

mo_gunslinger on May 8, 2008 at 7:04 AM

IMO, Obama would easily choose Hillary as VP if he thought that would be the way to beat McCain. Obama can’t be so daft as to think he can beat McCain– just look at how he “won” and who’s voting for him– not to mention that he won’t be given another chance at this. This is Obama’s last stand.

No amount of animosity or acrimony would prevent Obama from picking Clinton if it’s his only way into the WH. His VP pick matters so much more than McCain’s. As for Hillary,first female VP, with a chance at the WH if things turn sour for Obama, still gets her into the record book. I think they would both go for it in a heartbeat.

JiangxiDad on May 8, 2008 at 7:06 AM

With all the crapola Shillary has put B.O. through these last few months, she actually thinks he’s going to offer her the VP position? Either she is sniffing funny fumes when no one is looking or she is actually listening to what Bubba Billy has to say.

pilamaye on May 8, 2008 at 7:19 AM

The dream ticket won’t work, anyway.

Don’t underestimate the stupidity of gore-kerry voters, Ed.

peacenprosperity on May 8, 2008 at 7:26 AM

If she plays her cards right, she could get a couple Pocket Fisherman thrown in, too.

hepcat on May 8, 2008 at 7:35 AM

Well the dynamic duo,Boris and Natasha are going to enjoy
their “Fairy Tale” life soon without attaining the White
House!

Hillary getting the VP slot,ain’t gonna happen,zip,zero
ziltch,——-way to much water under the bridge for this
one!

And besides,Slick Willy besmirched the African American
voter and poisoned that vote for Hillary!

canopfor on May 8, 2008 at 7:38 AM

Obama win = 2 terms, no Hillary in 2012. Juan McCain win = 1 term, Hillary for Pres in 2012. She is campaigning for 2012 with a McCain win.

redrock on May 8, 2008 at 7:46 AM

Hillary wants Obama to lose to McCain in November, clearing the way for her 2012 run.

aengus on May 8, 2008 at 7:56 AM

If she leaves now, Obama would repay the $11.4 million in personal loans she herself made to the campaign.

Is that legal?

James on May 8, 2008 at 8:11 AM

James on May 8, 2008 at 8:11 AM

Sure. Same way a takeover CEO pays off his competition’s debts. Business is business.

Limerick on May 8, 2008 at 8:18 AM

I can see MsAmnesty picking Shillery for his VP. It will be one more finger in the conservative eyes and right up Mav’s playbook. If he stoops this low, god help him and the Republican Party.

trs on May 8, 2008 at 8:26 AM

Sure. Same way a takeover CEO pays off his competition’s debts. Business is business.

Limerick on May 8, 2008 at 8:18 AM

Sorry, I wasn’t really clear about what I was asking.

Where is Mr. ‘oh, we can barely afford to repay our college loans’ Obama going to come up with the money besides his campaign funds? Yeah, they’ve both got some pretty high incomes, but if Rezko had to help them finance their land purchases, do they really have $11.4M in personal funds just lying around?

So what I’m asking is…are candidates allowed to use donated campaign money to literally buy out their competition? Even if so, does that then become a de-facto campaign contribution to Hillary, which would make it subject to individual limitations on the amount donated?

I really don’t know, I’m not at all smart about campaign finance stuff. It just seems very wrong to me, somehow.

James on May 8, 2008 at 8:28 AM

Obama will take her as a “mate” if only his poll numbers are in the dumps.
She will go for the buy out and a leading position in the administration.
She is still young enough to be around when he stumbles and she can pick up the pieces and claim “you should have picked me”.

right2bright on May 8, 2008 at 8:31 AM

James on May 8, 2008 at 8:28 AM

Good questions. Maybe the most ethical congress evah will give us a reading ;)

Limerick on May 8, 2008 at 8:31 AM

James on May 8, 2008 at 8:28 AM

He can just tell the “pac” money to go to Hillary, while she is still in the race. There are probably a dozen other ways to “legally” get her the money. If she starts campaigning for him, he can pay her for that…

right2bright on May 8, 2008 at 8:33 AM

If Obama is stupid enough to pick Hillary as VP hopefully he would be smart enough to increase his life insurance.

patrick neid on May 8, 2008 at 8:34 AM

I never realized just how feminine Bubba’s hands are. I wonder if he has ever worked a day of manual labor in his entire life?

carbon_footprint on May 8, 2008 at 8:35 AM

If she leaves now, Obama would repay the $11.4 million in personal loans she herself made to the campaign.

Is that legal?

James on May 8, 2008 at 8:11 AM

What does legal have to do with anything around the Clintons?

rbj on May 8, 2008 at 8:36 AM

Comrade H.R. Clinton is ever campaigning, it is something taught by her mentor, Comrade Commissar S. Alinsky (although he called it something slightly different). Let her go out on a win with Robert Byrd Land so she can start her campaign for Governor of New York. Then with a little ‘Executive’ experience, she can make a good run for the Brass Ring in 2012 (cosmetic surgery isn’t just for Clinton daughters).

Would McCain pick Comrade Clinton for the V.P. slot? Not if he wants to campaign as a Republican. Should he do that, Bob Barr’s Libertarian run may win, especially since the RNC wouldn’t give a plug nickel to McCain.

Oh, there WILL be a Clinton campaigning in 2012. Why do you think Chelsea is carrying so much water for her mother?

SeniorD on May 8, 2008 at 8:39 AM

One of my close neighbors is a Texas Dem guru/Obamanut. She gives a joint ticket a zero chance. I dunno. Her life boat is the senate if they lose to McCain anyway. There is no reason to deal for something you already have. The debt issue does make a lot of sense.

Limerick on May 8, 2008 at 8:44 AM

SeniorD on May 8, 2008 at 8:39 AM

Ref Chelsea….yup. My guess is California. Feinstein and Boxer are getting a bit long in the tooth, and those 55 electoral college votes have to be secured for her future.

Limerick on May 8, 2008 at 8:51 AM

If Obama thinks he could control both a vice-president Hillary and the Second Man from going off-message and/or spinning stories behind-the-scenes during bad times to benefit themselves, as opposed to benefiting the Obama Administration, he really does believe in the audacity of hope (or he deserves to be immediately drug-tested for hallucinogens).

jon1979 on May 8, 2008 at 9:19 AM

T

he dream ticket won’t work, anyway.

Don’t underestimate the stupidity of gore-kerry voters, Ed.

peacenprosperity on May 8, 2008 at 7:26 AM

shudder. It’s too early for nightmares.

funky chicken on May 8, 2008 at 9:23 AM

The only reason I could see Hillary taking the VP spot would be if she thinks it would win the WH for the dems. If it’s me, I stay in the Senate and push for a plum job, like majority leader….I don’t think anybody could credibly argue that Reid is anything but a worthless putz.

funky chicken on May 8, 2008 at 9:36 AM

funky chicken on May 8, 2008 at 9:36 AM

With a super majority in the Senate (probably) then Hillary would be a force, instead of the farce Reid is now.

Limerick on May 8, 2008 at 9:46 AM

This would not be a “dream” ticket it would be a “nightmare” ticket. It is hard to conceive of these two losers teamed.

duff65 on May 8, 2008 at 10:08 AM

What about a McCain/Clinton ticket?

Redhead Infidel on May 8, 2008 at 10:11 AM

What about a McCain/Clinton ticket?

Redhead Infidel on May 8, 2008 at 10:11 AM

My head would explode.

James on May 8, 2008 at 10:14 AM

Why would she want to latch onto this loser?

Obama will implode before November.

She wants to be there, in the backround, clean from his increasing scandals, ready to pick up the party’s pieces and save the day.

Barry’s a wobbling mess, waiting to turn into a total gutter ball.

Let him drag the Dems into the ditch and then Tow Truck Hillary can ride to the rescue.

Barry and Michelle will be standing in the dust as the party drives away from their follies.

Hillary raises the D mantle and takes the party to a respectable loss in November, at least.

Looking toward 2012.

profitsbeard on May 8, 2008 at 10:16 AM

She’s hanging in there because she knows what the other dem leaders know. Hussein is unelectable, because he is deeply racist, a friend to terrorists and an effete, elitist snot.

Oh and he’s an airhead to boot. I’m surprised the fangs haven’t come out yet though and that she’s holding back. I expected her to be shouting that hussein is a racist from the rooftops, but she didn’t.

dogsoldier on May 8, 2008 at 10:19 AM

If I were BHO, I’d be very worried about why Hillary is hanging in there. I don’t think she’s played her trump yet, and it’s gonna be a doozy. She’s hanging there to pick up the pieces after she deploys her nuclear option.

Redhead Infidel on May 8, 2008 at 10:22 AM

What is wierd is that if Cankles gets the nod I will have a tough time deciding between her and McShamnesty.

And, I utterly loathe her.

TheSitRep on May 8, 2008 at 10:41 AM

canopfor on May 8, 2008 at 7:38 AM

If by “besmirch” you mean have the balls to imply most black democrats are racist to the core, sure.

Darth Executor on May 8, 2008 at 10:41 AM

If she plays her cards right, she could get a couple Pocket Fisherman thrown in, too.

hepcat on May 8, 2008 at 7:35 AM

Nope. She wants the Ginsu knives. They’ll look great in Obama’s back.

Bobbertsan on May 8, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Don’t underestimate the stupidity of gore-kerry voters, Ed.

peacenprosperity on May 8, 2008 at 7:26 AM

That aint no $hit. Just think about how stupid you would have to be to want Obama as POTUS. The guy aint qualified to run a McDonalds much less the US.

The country is spiraling downhill at breakneck speed. The “useless and worthless” segment of our population is growing in leaps and bounds, and Obama wants to subsidise it more, and tax producers to the hilt.

In a backdrop of rampent illegal immigration, the future looks bleak.

saiga on May 8, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Obama may be callow and feckless but I think the one thing in his life that he really believes in is…that he hates Hillary. With a passion.

She will not be on his ticket unless Michelle cuts off his remaining testicle.

Ares on May 8, 2008 at 11:54 AM

If you were Barry O, would you want Bill Clinton hanging around the white house for four years?

Buck Turgidson on May 8, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Keep the cameras posted at McGovern’s house to get his reaction when his record is broken.

She knows Obama can’t win and voters typically don’t vote for the VP slot. Does she want to tighten up the Obama-McCain race but ultimately be defeated or is it better to step aside at the last moment, and let Obama take one for the team, then return in 4 years to say I told ya.

My guess is she steps aside after negotiating a severance package and campaigns hard for Obama to build good will w/i the party, knowing he can’t win. Then like a ghoul from a horror flick returns from the un-dead in 4 years.

moxie_neanderthal on May 8, 2008 at 2:16 PM

The dream ticket will be. And O’Bambam will still pay off her debts thru fundraisers. The really really good part you ask?… They’re both losers.

Griz on May 8, 2008 at 3:49 PM