Oh, and Carter must be worried about his legacy as worst US President ever…
Wind Rider on May 8, 2008 at 11:18 AM

Yea, he started that when Nixon died, wondered why they all showed HIM respect. He was wondering where his respect was going to come from…Ha. So he tries to get his legacy out of the toilet bowl and…on to the toilet seat? funny thing is, the toilet seat, is more dirty than the water in the bowl.

Funny that the Dems are so set on following the rules in not seating the delegates for Michigan & Florida…but immigration laws?

Sorry, not trying to sway the focus of the thread…just say’in.

PappaMac on May 8, 2008 at 11:05 AM

and….if this were a general election, and 2 states had…”issues?…oh boy would you hear an outcry. (Assuming an outcry favored the dems of course)of disenfranchisement. Why arent these people being “disenfranchised”? remember that outcry in the last election? rules be damned? (i think it was something about mail in/early voters/chads….). Ha…whatever.

Maybe if Florida and Michigan voted to endorse Hamas, Carter’s opinion would change?

Good point–and no question about it. He would throw this country, the democrat party, and even his white grandmother under bus to enhance the legitimacy of Hamas. It’s his one true passion.

There is also, as noted above by MirCat, no legitimate reason to perpetuate the traveling circus primary campaign farce that drags on for months…instant communication media has made it obsolete.

How’s this for a legitimate reason? If the Dem primaries hadn’t dragged on so long the things we’ve learned about Obama’s background — Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, shitty bowler — would either not have come to light or been minimized by the Drive-By media to the point of obscuring their significance. No, we need less instant communication media and more personal face time with the candidates.

Sadly, this is a result of the “professional” media abandoning responsible journalism for shameless cheerleading. And cutting down the primary process would only give them more power to sucker voters into picking the smooth talking Marxist of their choosing.

I mean, look at Iowa. Do you think voters there would still go for B.O. if they knew then what we know now?

Don’t you think Obama and the rest of the liberals should decide…not us conservatives.

right2bright on May 8, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Of course I think all registered Democrats–and only registered Democrats–should decide who their nominee is going to be, and all registered Republicans–again, only–should do the same for our nominee. That’s why closed primaries are an absolute requirement. And I think party registration should close months before the primary, with special provisions for those who will turn 18 between the deadline and the election. There is also, as noted above by MirCat, no legitimate reason to perpetuate the traveling circus primary campaign farce that drags on for months…instant communication media has made it obsolete.

Until the ‘one day national primary election’ is implemented, though, the system can be metagamed and corrupted, as it has been this year…by both sides. While having Obama supporters disagree with Carter and me obviously distresses me greatly…the parties are under no obligation to change their rules or the punishment for breaking them.

…I agree with Carter. Rules are rules, and maybe people will think about this the next time they consider breaking them.

James on May 8, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Better read my links, these are Obama supporters, everyone of them. They disagree with you and Carter.
Don’t you think Obama and the rest of the liberals should decide…not us conservatives.

Drill. In. Anwar.

HotJavaJack on May 8, 2008 at 10:04 AM

What about Hillary? She’s gotta just be brimming with Fossil Fuels.

- The Cat

I call for run offs in the general as well.

- The Cat

P.S. Or make a reality show out of it. . . No wait, that’s what they’re doing now.

…I agree with Carter. Rules are rules, and maybe people will think about this the next time they consider breaking them.

“Every practice that discourages people from voting is a blow to democracy.” – Dr. Keith Jennings

Red Pill on May 8, 2008 at 12:31 PM

Go to the link. They have to sign pledge forms…

tommylotto on May 8, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Oh, and by the way, the 120 district-level delegates are elected March 1st.

After the district-level delegates are elected, those persons not chosen will be considered candidates for district-level alternate positions unless they specify otherwise when filing.

Facts are stubborn things….

Anybody can a Florida delegate. All you have to do is fill out a form and people are selected based on the racial and gender breakdowns they lay out

TheBigOldDog on May 8, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Then how do they guarantee that those delegates vote for the candidate they are supposed to vote for?

I believe it was part of Hillary’s game plan to make the Florida and Michigan Democrat primaries worthless so that she could help ensure here general election adversary would be John McCain.

Hillary didn’t count on a challenge from her hand-picked VP (Obama) for the Democrat nomination. Now she wants to have her cake and eat it, too.

Wrong!!!

I hate to defend Carter, but he said the delegates disqualified themselves. He was not talking about the common voters.

tommylotto on May 8, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Anybody can a Florida delegate. All you have to do is fill out a form and people are selected based on the racial and gender breakdowns they lay out

Stop complaining about people saying your election wasn’t legitimate when, at least in Michigan’s case, one of the two remaining contenders for the nomination wasn’t even on the ballot.

You’re missing the point. Accepting funds for an event that is scheduled for the express purpose of delivering something… and then going ahead with the event as a meaningless exercise and refusing to deliver that “something” is fraud. Assuming the people who commited this act were elected — which is not a given — since when does that shield people from criminality? They either needed to hold the primary they accepted money for or cancel it. Not hand out presidential primary ballots with the intention of disqualifying them.

As far as Obama’s name not being on the ballot in Michigan… that was not required in the pledge not to campaign that he signed with the DNC. His campaign knew they wouldn’t win the state so they removed his name in order to make this claim their making (i.e. if the results are accepted he is being unfairly victimized). But by not demanding that the whole empty charade be cancelled he participated in it.