BigD likes to accuse me of dishonesty because I don’t hate McCain the same way she does.

For the record, I have never accused Ed of dishonesty, much less enjoyed doing it. I have accused Ed of sugarcoating things and, in at least one instance, attributing something positive to McCain which was in fact not true.

I also do not hate McCain as a person, as I do not know him and in general do not “hate” anybody. I will admit a healthy does of skepticism and dislike.

poodlemom on May 8, 2008 at 3:58 AM

Most excellent point.

Whatever points he may have gained in his “mad as hell” statement, he immediately shoots himself in the foot by mentioning Ted Kennedy and Russ Feingold. Just how tone deaf is McCain?

You’re Mohammed’s Fairy Godmother. There’s no such thing as moderate Islam. You can’t separate the violence and the faith because no disconnect is possible–jihad (warfare against the unbelievers) is the most central duty of Islam. It is incumbent upon all true believers. Converting all 300 million Americans to Islam would be far easier by contrast.

aengus on May 7, 2008 at 9:05 PM

Mohammed, the Messenger of Allah’s eternal word, was not moderate. No moderate can legitimately tell another Muslim to stop doing the extremist things Mohammed himself did. The Koran condones violence and coercion to further the Islamic agenda. People whom we call moderates are labeled hypocrites by Allah Himself in the Koran. “Moderates” will always lose the argument because, as ex-Muslim author Ibn Warraq says, “There may be ‘moderates’ in Islam but Islam itself is not moderate.”
- A_Plague_on_Both_Houses

Admit it – you have been a Republican since we chased the JBS out in the 60’s have you?

I have no idea what that gibberish means.

Do you still think Eisenhower was a commie?

The Apologist on May 7, 2008 at 8:58 PM

Do you still beat your wife?

Obama is the one who seems to have an anger management problem.

bnelson44 on May 7, 2008 at 5:42 PM

To be fair, he can’t just lock Michelle in a basement.

SouthernGent on May 7, 2008 at 6:18 PM

LOL

Now, does McCain have a temper? Sure. Has it caused him problems? Not that I’ve seen. Thad “Pork King” Cochran may not like it, but then again, I don’t like the $700 million in earmarks he has in this year’s budget. And whether he has a temper issue or not, this was a clever way of dealing with it as a political issue — which was the point of the post.

If BigD wants a daily recitation of the McCain Hate, then I presume she’ll be good enough to provide it. Since I don’t hate McCain, I’ll just stick to the issue in the topic.

hoping that people be able to remember back further than yesterday’s lunch.

DOH! Me too.
Stick a WOULDN’T in there between people and be.

Leaving aside the absurd notion that with an 82% rating from the American Conservative Union McCain is only 20% conservative.

How many times do I have to debunk that 82% ACU rating? If it weren’t for his early years of actually voting conservative reliably, it would be down in the 70-60 range. It was only 65 in 2006. It did jump a bit last year when he was pretending to be a conservative, hoping that people be able to remember back further than yesterday’s lunch.

Funny, you McCainiacs think anyone that doesn’t support your guy is either a democrat in disguise or a Buchannanite. You are very free with the insults. You can’t for a minute imagine that we were the body, the soul, and the open wallet of the Republican Party until you guys that get that tingly feeling up your leg for Mavericky RINO Moderatism (but call it conservatism) took over the party.

Newt hasn’t been worth a bucket of warm spit for ten years, and the rest of those guys you mentioned were NEVER worth a bucket of warm spit. (Well, Perot was a pretty good guy until he went insane… about the time he decided to run for President.)

Most of us don’t expect a savior or a conservative messiah this year. We just don’t want the guy that destroys the economy because he is an ‘America Causes Global Warming’ stooge to be a Republican. If he is, then the chances for a Republican ‘Messiah’ to save us in 2012 will require an even greater Miracle than having one this year.

POP QUIZ:
Of the three major candidates still running…
Only one of them has ACTUALLY authored and got enacted legislation which is unconstitutional and limits the First Amendment rights of individuals as they apply to political discourse.
Which Candidate is it?

Yeah, The guy who has managed to stomp all over the First Amendment is a REAL Conservative Icon all right.

You’re Mohammed’s Fairy Godmother.

LoL. That was actually very funny. I agree with you that your interpretation of Islam is the most accurate and the most consistently held these days, but it doesn’t matter. Christians are supposed to love their enemies as themselves, they’re supposed to give their shirt to coat thieves, they’re supposed to live life without fear of evil beacaus etheir God is great, good, merciful, generous, and just. They do none of these things. Just because the Koran and the hadith command it doesn’t mean Muslims will do it or even do do it. Most aren’t true believers and as political violence becomes less accepted so will religious violence. As political freedom becomes more common so will religious freedom. The Arabs have never had self determination. They have never had real freedom. When they get it they adapt and love it very quickly.

Or am I some other kind of fairy?

You’re Mohammed’s Fairy Godmother. There’s no such thing as moderate Islam. You can’t separate the violence and the faith because no disconnect is possible–jihad (warfare against the unbelievers) is the most central duty of Islam. It is incumbent upon all true believers. Converting all 300 million Americans to Islam would be far easier by contrast.

Damn. Damn. Damn.

I hate to see a solid punch squirrled like that.

82% consistent = Defecatory abomination. Admit it – you have been a Republican since we chased the JBS out in the 60′s have you? Do you still think Eisenhower was a commie?

Fred Barnes just said that Lindsey Graham was a “profile in courage” over the shamnesty bill on Brit Hume’s show. Yeesh! Sounds like the Beltway Boys need to step outside the Beltway once in a while and talk to some real Americans.

ReubenJCogburn on June 28, 2007 at 6:49 PM

That was quoted and re-iterated yesterday in the Fred Barnes thread by Jaibones at 10:59pm.

Am I still a drama queen MB4? Or am I some other kind of fairy?

If you only want a few scoops of $hit in your milkshake
instead of several – vote McCain!

But they’ve bought out the State Department too. When does that get bought back?

That’s an overstatement, but simply not listening to them is one option. It’s certainly one Bush has employed many times.

Plus we now have Shariah banking in global markets.

Which is fine with me. If bankers are stupid enough to arrange for loans that don’t bear interest they’ll pay the consequences in global competition with those that don’t. Non-capitalist banking systems don’t tend to make much money or even function very well so who cares?

The Saudis have amassed ten trillion dollars since the 1970s and seeing as they spend it all on jihad it will eventually run out but what sort of state will the world be in by then?

They spend some, not all. And if you remove their preachers and replace them, inspire Iraqi Arabs to embrace moderate Islam, encourage the disconnect between violence and faith, and slowly turn the populations around by protecting those who speak out and creating spaces for dissent to simply survive in the Arab world, it will spread. And then all the infrastructure the Saudis have spent decades building will be turned against them. It will take time, a generation or more, and there will be setbacks and failures along the way, but it can certainly be countered. The more free these people are politically the harder it is for the Saudis to treat the Islamic world like a dictatorship and the mosque like a military barracks.

Ed, that you are a finger-in-the-wind moderate.

Yeesh. What’s next? Ideological purity tests? An Inquisition? A show trial? Cries of “J’accuse!” from “true” conservatives?

irishspy on May 7, 2008 at 7:39 PM

Good Lord, another drama queen. Maybe there is something in the water. I dunno, could be.

No. Juliesa, Hot Air is crammed to the gills with border fanatics. If you disagree with them on any aspect of immigration policy, legal or illegal, you’re not a real American, you’re not a Real Republican, and you’re not a Real Conservative.

The Apologist on May 7, 2008 at 6:56 PM

I guess Chris Matthews isn’t the only drama queen.

McCain admitted that he gets angry, especially when he sees fraud and waste in government.

Unless it’s for one of his pet projects like Iraq or funds going to La Raza.

He doesn’t seem to get too angry about that.

We’d just kind of like a candidate that doesn’t shift the Republican party further to the left than it already is….

Heck, at this point, I’d be thrilled if we could maintain status quo.

Right, so you can’t keep the status quo and a Democrat is gonna shift the whole country farther left than McCain so the obvious option is to not elect McCain. That doesn’t make sense.

Leaving aside the absurd notion that with an 82% rating from the American Conservative Union McCain is only 20% conservative.

It makes me wonder, do we have you to thank for the Clinton Presidency? Were you one of the Ross Perot dead-enders? Who’s this cycle’s new conservative Messiah? Buchannen again? Newt? Bob Barr? Huck? Who’s gonna save the GOP from getting elected this time?

Who cares? Not me. I’m with Johnny Mac. He’s more than just better than Obama. He’s a good, if not great, conservative.

The Apologist on May 7, 2008 at 8:11 PM

But they’ve bought out the State Department too. When does that get bought back?

Plus we now have Shariah banking in global markets.

I’m not as optimistic as you. The Germans and Japanese had no real motive to create mischief after the war. Arab Muslims do and I am genuinely worried about what they are up to.

The Saudis have amassed ten trillion dollars since the 1970s and seeing as they spend it all on jihad it will eventually run out but what sort of state will the world be in by then?

The Arabs are simply buying us

There are no nations…there is no democracy

Ha! People use to say the same thing about the Germans after reunification, and the Japanese before that, and the Arabs before that, etc., etc.

It’s called the free flow of capital. Let the Arabs hold a stake in American business during a downturn. Americans always buy it back later or create bigger, better competitors when things move up again. How? We allow the free flow of capital and the most open and free market in the world. It’s why we pass our competitors and those who are supposedly buying us out from decade to decade. The Pat Buchannen economic model has been wrong since the day the first protectionists dreamt it up hundreds of years ago.