Report: Indiana Republicans crossing over “in droves”
posted at 12:40 pm on May 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Chaos? Maybe not. Of the three people interviewed, two are voting the “wrong” way.
Amid heavy turnout, Republicans appeared to be crossing over in droves today in Marion County and suburban counties, where fewer Republican voters might impact down-ticket primary races.
At the Broad Ripple center, nearly 400 voters — of 1,800 registered in the two precincts — had turned out in the first few hours of voting. Among them was Meghan Ward-Bopp, 24, who went against family tradition and asked for Democratic ballot so she could vote for Barack Obama; she plans to vote for Republican John McCain in November…
Ward-Bopp voted for the Democrat she liked, but Jim Adams, 36, voted for Hillary Clinton to keep the race going beyond Indiana. He’s a McCain backer and enjoys watching the Democrats fight…
The Republican strongholds in the counties around Indianapolis have high demand for Democrat ballots.
“We’ve seen more Democrats so far in the first few hours than we’ll usually see in a day,” said election judge Barb Stauch at Avon United Methodist Church in Hendricks County.
North Carolina is a lost cause and looking more lost by the minute. Her best-case scenario was a big win in Indiana and a narrow loss in NC; I wonder if it’s not going to play out the opposite way, with a closer than expected win in Indy and a blowout in Carolina. Does she stay in the race if that happens? That Gallup poll today plus the lure of the next few primaries being likely landslides for her probably means yes, but once the superdelegates see that the Wright thing didn’t do Obama any harm, there’s nothing left to stop the stampede. If NC’s a blowout, she needs a blowout in Indiana to give them something to think about.
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Yes, but we know how the media is with reporting on this. They can’t manage to find a single non-Surrendercrat amongst Iraqi soldiers.
amerpundit on May 6, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Could this be Operation Chaos backfiring?
irishspy on May 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM
I think she peaked about three days ago. She kind of had it all going her way, but the gas tax pander and the breakup OPEC nonsense–I think–kind of layered on the Tuzla Dash and brought her home in people’s minds as a liar again.
Here’s hoping she goes 0 for 2 tonight and exits the stage.
Yeah, yeah, I know we’re all supposed to be rooting for her and stocking up on popcorn (man, I’ve come to cringe at the sight of that word) and hoping for an August bloodletting. But I’m not on that team.
I see this battle as riveting the country, and better it ends with a whimper and the Dems stuck with Mr. Cut-My-Waffle-With-A-Knife-While-My-Buddy-Dances-On-The-Flag.
Typhoon on May 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM
I voted in the Republican primary this morning…………for Mitt Romney. McCain still has to earn my vote.
The main reason I voted in the Republican primary was to vote against my congressman, Dan Burton. He failed to show up for the hearings regarding Walter Reed, has a poor attendance record (likes to go golfing, ya know……Julia Carson even had a better attendance record than him), likes to blame everyone and anything for his grandson’s autism (I am a parent of a child with autism) instead of looking at the facts and was the only House member to vote against ethics reform.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 6, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Keep kicking Obama from the rear, Hillary!
The more bruises you inflict on Barry’s butt, the fewer the R’s will have to deliver (and risk being thought of negatively).
Barry’s a usurper! An interloper! He butted in line! The time was yours!
Fight on!
profitsbeard on May 6, 2008 at 12:51 PM
They noticed a problem because people showed up to vote early.
EJDolbow on May 6, 2008 at 12:52 PM
I doubt very much anyone on our side interviewed would give the media the satisfaction of an less then accurate answer.
I know I wouldn’t - let em squirm
Kini on May 6, 2008 at 12:52 PM
I voted earlier this morning. It felt great to strike out at Barack.
AbaddonsReign on May 6, 2008 at 12:53 PM
BING!
Weebork on May 6, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Seems some of the Chaos agents are panicking at the thought of Hillary getting too close, and have decided Barack is easier to beat, now that we’ve had a peek at his baggage.
NellE on May 6, 2008 at 12:54 PM
How could any poll be more scientific than one with a 3 person sample? Except perhaps a 4 person sample.
Chuck Schick on May 6, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Does a bear $hit in the woods?
MB4 on May 6, 2008 at 12:56 PM
How could it backfire? Is there some option out there where neither Hillary or Obama come out of this with a nomination?
It’s causing rifts in the Democratic party and the MSM…it’s working better than expected.
Asher on May 6, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Hold on. How does a big black voter turn out in NC translate into ” but once the superdelegates see that the Wright thing didn’t do Obama any harm”?
bnelson44 on May 6, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Not familiar with the IndyStar, but if it’s a lefty paper, I’d take their anecdotal and
spinanalysis with a grain of salt. Operation Chaos makes ‘progressives’ crazy. They’re falling all over each other trying to deny that Rush might influence their fate.petefrt on May 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Absolutely. Operation Chaos is a beautiful thing. Rifts. Division, we just need to stop our own ’self imposed operation chaos’ that is going on with our own party and let the dems suffer for as long as possible.
So anyway - Thanks for everyone who helped in Indiana today!
wise_man on May 6, 2008 at 1:01 PM
Oregon is one of the next few primaries. She will be lucky if she doesn’t lose Oregon in a landslide.
And then there is the “small” matter of her needing about half again the number of remaining delegates as Obama needs and the “small” matter of the democrat’s primaries being popotional not wimmer-take-all.
Put a fork in the Witch, she’s toast.
MB4 on May 6, 2008 at 1:04 PM
One of these days the good citizens who got all energized to vote Democrat are going to realize that their vote never mattered in the Democrat Party’s machinations. Their candidate will have been selected by a bunch of elite, establishment Democrat politicians, who are concerned about protecting their own power in office and smile pityingly at the notion that everyday peoples’ votes ever had a scintilla of importance in the selection of the nominee.
RushBaby on May 6, 2008 at 1:06 PM
Good question.
Let’s hope they don’t figure out the answer till November.
Typhoon on May 6, 2008 at 1:06 PM
For all the McCain syncophants who continually tell social conservatives to shut the f**k up and support the worst GOP nominee since Bob Dole; here’s something to consider when you get tired of bashing the GOP base:
What do you suppose moderate Democrats are going have to do once Obama wins the nomination? Do they hold their nose and vote for Obama or do they consider cranky old bastard as a legitimate alternative? I would suggest that this is precisely what cranky old bastard is counting on when he continues to alientate himself from the real Republicans. What does McCain do when Democrats, with their own people telling the Clinton supporters to “shut the f**k up” and support Barry get a unified front against McCain and all his flying monkey apologists pitted against the rank-and-file grassroots constituency ticked off over McCain’s pandering for amnesty and more liberal SCOTUS nominees.
Can you say President Obama? Now is the time for cranky old bastard and his idiot supporters to start building the bridges they so gleefully burned in revenenge during the primaries. I would have thought they would have done so by now but it is clear they seek to kick out anybody who isn’t for their liberal agenda. Lot’s of luck with that you traitors!
highhopes on May 6, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Don’t cross-overs in Indiana have to sign some kind of weird loyalty oath to the Dem party?
Typhonsentra on May 6, 2008 at 1:15 PM
I’m not ready to believe that yet. Obama might implode from another bonehead rookie mistake. Hillary is a scrapper that plays sneaky and dirty, so it aint over till its over.
saiga on May 6, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Nope.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 6, 2008 at 1:17 PM
LOL.
wise_man on May 6, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Demographics = Blacks
I guess voting for your own kind isn’t just a White thing after all? Southern White racism has been replaced by Southern Black racism to the tune of billions of dollars.
Hening on May 6, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Regrettably McCain won’t need to do anything for the right- we will vote against the Dem nominee because of the awful policies they will implement with a fillabuster-proof Congress.
Awful position to be in but this Rino has to be backed.
jjshaka on May 6, 2008 at 1:21 PM
OK, I will make my wild a$$ guess. North Carolina - Obama by 12. Indiana - Clinton by 5.
MB4 on May 6, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Yes. It could be a lot better, jjshaka. I hope that other people don’t mess it up any more and make it worse.
wise_man on May 6, 2008 at 1:23 PM
I’m wonder, but in regard to “Operation Chaos,” do any conservatives on here think it’s not really a good idea?
I mean, in a strictly political “us against them” way it seems to be a good idea. But placing people in office through the “will of the people” is one of the cornerstones of our democracy. Seems to me that operation chaos could subvert the will of the people. Does that bother anyone?
Tom_Shipley on May 6, 2008 at 1:23 PM
Of course there is. Al Gore is going to sweep in and grab the nomination from the ashes.
Haven’t seen a presidential election this entertaining since I started voting in 1974.
Bob's Kid on May 6, 2008 at 1:23 PM
At this point I think Obama would have to announce that he is leaving Michelle and is going to run of with Jeremiah Wright to San Francisco where they will be married by Mayor Newsom.
MB4 on May 6, 2008 at 1:27 PM
I think I’ve been pretty vocal and constant in calling it lame, moronic, liable to bit us in the butt, and about the dumbest f**cking political stunt I’ve ever seen.
All that said, however, you lose me on the “will of the people” thing. Each one of us has a vote. How we use it is our own damned business.
If we want to be stupid with it, then that’s our will.
We’re liable to get with this just exactly what we deserve.
Typhoon on May 6, 2008 at 1:29 PM
I predict that John Edwards wins by 2 points. Ha!
terryannonline on May 6, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Tell her that. Besides, by now all she really has to do is continue to make those super-delegates squirm about electing a man from Illinois who has been leaking baggage like a sieve for the past two months, and so far doesn’t seem to have a public relationship with anyone who hasn’t said something stupid and anti-American in public and on the record.
Spc Steve on May 6, 2008 at 1:34 PM
You’re welcome. I voted for Hillary this morning, but I needed a shower afterwards!
revolutionismyname on May 6, 2008 at 1:34 PM
It’s hilarious that Howard Dean and the media claim thousands, possibly millions, of crossovers to vote D. They think this will be so in Nov. too.
It’s a goofy year, for sure, all gratis.
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 1:35 PM
Who are the non-people involved?
exception on May 6, 2008 at 1:42 PM
Hill stays in the race even if she breaks both cankles and gets euthanized.
fogw on May 6, 2008 at 1:43 PM
I am in Indiana and I voted. I was going to vote in the presidential race, but a friend and neighbor is running for County Commissioner and I promised him I would vote for him. He is a Democrat. That means I had to ask for the Democrat ballot. Man, that was hard. I left the rest of the ballot blank.
If not for him, I would have voted for McCain just to offset the sore loser cry baby contingent of the Republican party who seem to think the rest of us are supposed to kiss their behinds.
Terrye on May 6, 2008 at 1:44 PM
I agree, I don’t like the idea of “Operation Chaos.” I just couldn’t vote for someone who didn’t want to see win.
terryannonline on May 6, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Fabulous!
Branch Rickey on May 6, 2008 at 1:47 PM
How do you decide which Communist is the most despicable?
OhEssYouCowboys on May 6, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Of coarse they found (or made up) some Obama crossovers and report them 2-to-1. What else would a reasonable observer of the media expect? If they didn’t do it, I’d worry I was missing something.
The Indiana Democratic party didn’t start preemptive crossover intimidation to keep Republicans for voting for Obama.
It boggles my mind how we can have example upon example of clear-cut media bias stacked a mile high day after day and yet some people still take their “reports” at face value.
TheBigOldDog on May 6, 2008 at 1:50 PM
Easy. By their acquaintances and “friends” aka comrades.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 6, 2008 at 1:50 PM
The Democrats should give states that they are more likely to win more consideration. Indiana, though solidly Republican, is more like the states the Democrats can win in 2008. NC is going to McCain not matter what–unless McCain is too submissive at the La Raza meeting & then all bets are off.
thuja on May 6, 2008 at 1:52 PM
That Gallup poll you linked to is pretty convincing proof that a healthy proportion of Democrats are either insane or stupid or both. 15% of Dems think BO should drop out?! The guy who’s winning by every measure should concede?! No wonder they think they really won the 2000 election. They have no connection to reality.
Spolitics on May 6, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Subvert the will of the people? So what are you saying, some people votes don’t count because you don’t like the reason they voted the way they did? Do you want to set up interrogation booths at the polling places to make sure people vote for reasons you or the government deem acceptable?
People can vote any way they want for whatever reason they want. By definition, that is the will of the people.
TheBigOldDog on May 6, 2008 at 1:54 PM
As a conservative, I am not holding my breath that McVain will ever admit conservatism works because he is more interested in liberals liking HIM. Screw the country; it’s about McVain….
Branch Rickey on May 6, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Obviously. If they did, they wouldn’t be in that party.
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 1:55 PM
To clarify, “that party” in today’s state.
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Don’t you think those 15% feel that way because of what has come to light since he won the elections that gave him that lead? Do you think he’d be where he is if the Wright story had been reported before Super Tuesday?
TheBigOldDog on May 6, 2008 at 1:57 PM
Maybe the crossovers are just trying to decide if their November crow is BBQd or fried.
Limerick on May 6, 2008 at 1:57 PM
They were educated in government school and universities.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 6, 2008 at 1:57 PM
I’m still amazed that the super delegates and the Democratic leadership haven’t convened some secret meeting in some obscure location to discuss drafting a third choice for President. They have to know by now that neither Shillary or B.O. have what it takes to run this country for the next four years, unless they intend on running it into the ground.
pilamaye on May 6, 2008 at 1:57 PM
So voicing legitimate concerns with McCain’s positions is being a “crybaby?” In all honesty, I’m getting sick and tired of you people telling me to “shut the f**k up and support McCain” without giving me a single legitimate reason for doing so. Vague threats about SCOTUS nominations or withdrawal from Iraq aren’t enough. Questioning my patriotism because I don’t give McCain’s record in the Senate a pass because the man was a POW 40 years ago doesn’t cut it either.
But, most importantly, I’m really dissappointed in people like you who think anybody who doesn’t agree with your assessment on cranky old bastard’s character and vision are simply cry babies. We might just have a point of view that you McCain apologists should be considering instead of attacking real Republicans to prop up the worst GOP nominee since Bob Dole in 96.
highhopes on May 6, 2008 at 1:58 PM
How are they gonna do that? They can’t keep an NIE secret. That secret meeting would be on every blog’s front page three weeks before it started.
Limerick on May 6, 2008 at 2:00 PM
there are still many Republicans that have engaged in anti-operation chaos because they believe that Obama will be much easier to defeat.
So, all in all, I really don’t think OC has had much effect. I think BO stepping in it everyday for the past 2 months has had more of an effect.
kirkill on May 6, 2008 at 2:01 PM
I don’t understand why people think Hillary will lose Oregon, cause next week is finals week for Oregon Universities, so by the time that primary happens BO supporters will not be in Oregon to vote aka Professors and college students. If NC is close Hillary won the presidency.
BroncosRock on May 6, 2008 at 2:01 PM
exactly; see John Lewis (D-GA); pioneer in civil rights and a hero and then sold his soul politically. Racism is sickening. Please judge people on content of character. If a citizen is annoyed about illegal immigrants jumping in line in front of people waiting years in their crap hole countries, Sen. McVain, that does NOT makes us bigots. McVain judged whites who opposed the sham on “non-amnesty” by our skin color (e.g. the “bigots” comment) instead of the content of our character nor on the content of our ideas on a more effective solution….
Branch Rickey on May 6, 2008 at 2:02 PM
I considered that. But that’s a reason for people to stop voting for him so he’ll lose. To say he should drop out? Especially after snagging the all-important Tom Hanks endorsement… that’s just dumb — and bitter. I hope they have guns and religion they can cling to to help them cope.
Spolitics on May 6, 2008 at 2:02 PM
I guess my point on Operation Chaos is that, we have a system. To echo terryonline, people who want to vote Democratic vote in the Democratic primary for who they want to see in the White House. And vice versa.
Legally, yes, you can vote for whoever you want. But Operation Chaos seems something like something you’d see in a class president election.
Say 4,000 republicans participated in operation chaos and vote for Clinton in Indiana today. that’s essentially negating the vote of 4,000 people who voted for Obama.
It just doesn’t seem right to me.
Tom_Shipley on May 6, 2008 at 2:03 PM
So when are you going to run where we can talk about how you are so this and not so that?
upinak on May 6, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Then you simply dismiss the legitimate reasons of SCOTUS and Iraq. How about Pro-Life for a social issue? He’s the only one. How about his promise to cut government spending? He’s the only one that will even THINK about it. How about actually increasing border security and maybe building a fence? He’s again the only one that has said he would.
And you think you have legitimate reasons to vote for BO because you think it will be a disaster and that is good for America how? With all due respect, you are CRAZY.
kirkill on May 6, 2008 at 2:06 PM
If it makes you feel any better, the Kos kids started it. They urged Dems to vote for Romney in Michigan so — in their words — he would stay in the race and use his money to hurt McCain.
Payback’s a bitch.
Spolitics on May 6, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Tom, you do realize that there was a HUGE and organized “operation chaos” where Dems voted to get McLaim as OUR nominee don’t you? I know several of them in the conservative bastion of Colorado Springs.
kirkill on May 6, 2008 at 2:10 PM
I don’t trust McCain on judges, taxes, economy, or especially illegal immigration. I do trust him on the war and that is the ONLY reason I will vote for him.
The problem with the McCain campaign, and the supporters who call the no-Macs crybabies, is you believe that by cutting loose the illegal immigration crowd IT DOESN’T HURT HIS CHANCES. So instead of blaming McCain for a November loss based on his positions you all are setting up the illegal immigration crowd as the bad guys. The crowd who won’t vote for McCain have a legitimate reason not to vote for him. Just as legitimate as your reason for voting for him.
Like I said earlier…..I’m going to enroll in donkey as a second language class.
Limerick on May 6, 2008 at 2:12 PM
I agree highhopes. It is really sad the way so many people just give in and robotically support the candidate with an R next to their name. That is why we are where we are now with essentially a Democrat at the top of the Republican ticket. I have come to realize that there is a penalty for not staying true to the stated principles belonging to a person or group. John McCain speaking to La Raza is our penalty and if we don’t do something about it, it won’t be long until Hillary Clinton is at the top of the Republican ticket and Barak Obama is at the top of the Dem ticket. Sadly, the same crew shouting at us now about the lesser of two evils, SCOTUS nominees, etc will be berating us for not falling in line and supporting Hillary Clinton when that senario arises.
I for one am officially out of line. I won’t get back in line until I’m convinced that the front of the line is in its historically proper place.
Zetterson on May 6, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Well, then the Kos kids were wrong too.
Spolitics, instead of saying “you guys did it too,” why not give your opinion of the practice. Do you approve of it?
Tom_Shipley on May 6, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Yes. It is free speech.
Limerick on May 6, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Absolutely. And I predict that this election will set a precedent for future primary elections, where people don’t necessarily vote who they want to win, but who they think will be easier for the candidate they want to win beat in the general. They will also vote to confuse the opposition’s results instead of their preferred candidates. Polls will be essentially meaningless–even more meaningless than they seem to be presently.
The GOP needs to learn this lesson NOW because I guarantee it will come in to play down the road, only this time the dems will be playing the game, not the right. If they expect to play that game and win they need to be thinking strategy now and not spring, 2012.
Bob's Kid on May 6, 2008 at 2:16 PM
And, for the record, it seems Michigan republicans started it.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/10/2713/87225/55/434206
Tom_Shipley on May 6, 2008 at 2:18 PM
I love how:
Do you see anyone else? Is there a reason why you are complaining? My guy isn’t in the running anymore either, do you see me gripping?
I am not a McCain-iac, I respect the guy for his Military career and the fact he is a anit-earmarking anti-government money grubbing kind of guy. Do I care for his other faults.. nope.
But does anyone see someone else stepping up to the plate? Independent wise?
Still haven’t gotten an answer on that or even a whisper of who may be. So either you don’t vote and stop complaining, or vote and see what happens. Unless you want Hitlery or Osamessiah in the Whitehouse. They you have only to blame yourselves as I will complain!
upinak on May 6, 2008 at 2:20 PM
LOL…please…this has been going on since the country started. George McClellan held up a train of Republican crossover voters in 1860 so they couldn’t skew an election.
This isn’t electioneering, this is plain ol politics.
Limerick on May 6, 2008 at 2:22 PM
No, Tom.That’s what Democrat superdelegates are for. Oh, and the DNC which doesn’t want to seat the Michigan or Florida delegates elected by the will of the people.
a capella on May 6, 2008 at 2:23 PM
GANG of FOURTEEN anyone? If he had cared so much about the pro-lifers he would not have silenced us via McCain-Feingold and he would have fought for the pro-life judges Bush nominated.
Op Chaos is to send the Democrats into a tizzy. Job well done!
Branch Rickey on May 6, 2008 at 2:28 PM
It’s easily prevented by closing the primary and having a rule that any party change has to be submitted before Iowa. I don’t like the idea of just screwing with their election because it demeans the process, but if people are voting for Hillary because they think she’d be better than Barack, even though they intend to vote for McCain, I have no problem with that.
That said, I also believe in teaching punk kids a lesson. The Kos kids are getting schooled right now. I 100% approve of that practice.
Spolitics on May 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM
The larger liberal senate will dissolve the ‘gang of 14′. Beware. Don’t put the congress, senate, presidency and SCOTUS in the hands of ultra liberal ninnies. Think beyond your own egos and stubbornness. There is a country and a world out there.
There is no Reagan waiting behind a courtain. It is nearly impossible to revert socialism. These are perilous times.
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 2:32 PM
S/b curtain, of course…
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Right on brother!
kirkill on May 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM
I live in Indiana and I voted for Hillary this morning. It pained me to declare “Democrat,” but I did it for my country. I feel good about my vote though because usually my vote in the primary counts for nothing.
I feel certain that Obama will get the DEM nomination, but I don’t believe the goal of Operation Chaos is to choose the candidate, but rather to create CHAOS! Without Op Chaos, Obama would already be the DEM nominee and it’s for sure the MSM would leave him unscathed. The longer this has gone on, the more polarizing it’s been to the DEMs. You all know how long it perhaps took you to get over your GOP guy dropping from the race! I am a FredHead and it still gripes me. McCain was tied for last with Huck and Ron Paul in my book, but I’ve had time to adjust and get my mind around this thing. So, the longer this chaos continues the less time DEMs will have to adjust. Then, couple that with the fact that half of them are going to be declaring either racism or sexism, it’s just a mess. Op Chaos has been a success. Unless something awful (Biblical proportions) happens, McCain will be the POTUS. Was he my choice at the primary level? HELL NO! But I’ll take him over BHO or HRC any day.
Oink on May 6, 2008 at 2:37 PM
I’ll give you that one. When I think of McCain and the gang of 14, it makes my blood boil. I railed against that back when I backed Romney. But reality is reality, and I’m voting for McLaim come November. I think we really need to pull for Republican Senators and Representatives, because that’s where we still have a chance to get some real conservative voices.
kirkill on May 6, 2008 at 2:39 PM
highhopes:
First of all I don’t care who you vote for. I am not telling you to shut up. I am just pointing out that McCain won fair and square in spite of people like you. Now if you want to let the Democrats win {again} go ahead. But don’t whine about the fact that you can not get someone nominated. That is not my fault, or McCain’s fault. It might have something to do with you or your friends or your attitude.
If a Democrat wins and puts in liberal judges and gives drivers licenses to illegals and surrenders to AlQaida, you can just remind yourself there is no difference between McCain and Obama, whatever. I am so sick of listening to the belly aching I do not much give a rat’s ass anymore.
Terrye on May 6, 2008 at 2:47 PM
The Gang of 14 worked out a lot better than any of the critics said it would. Time has proven that. And now that the Democrats have a majority in Congress and might strengthen that majority in November, Republicans should be glad that filibuster is available. Especially if a Democrat wins in November.
Terrye on May 6, 2008 at 2:50 PM
I agree with you to an extent. That’s why I haven’t decided if a twice lost the presidency McCain would be more effective in the senate, if Hillary “steals the nomination,” or if to hold my nose and pull the donkey lever for the horsesa$$ (McCain).
Still soul-searching. Doesn’t mean I am not enjoying Op Chaos…
Branch Rickey on May 6, 2008 at 2:50 PM
LOL.. but it would be sister.
upinak on May 6, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Amen, sister!
kirkill on May 6, 2008 at 3:13 PM
If they lose too many more seats, there won’t be anyone named Phil or Buster left to defend conservatives.
And how did the “gang of 14″ work out? That was basically saying, 50 Senators don’t matter, we have 14, and I, John McLaim, am KING OF THE WORLD!
kirkill on May 6, 2008 at 3:17 PM
This is actually my polling place; I’m the precinct vice committeeman. And Cara is my lovely better half.
I just went and voted. I voted pubby, not rat. I was the only one there. One other person came in while I was voting. Pretty quite.
Brian Paasch on May 6, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Right on, right on, right on.
RushBaby on May 6, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Not necessarily. She may be a little weak kneed and afraid that hillary will pull it out.The goal is not that either barry or hillary win, but that the process goes on as long as possible. While there are two candidates, the msm is taking sides and information is able to get out. Once there is a single democrat candidate, the msm support will coalesce around that candidate. Now is the only opportunity for the undecideds to see the warts.
peacenprosperity on May 6, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Sorry but promises on the campaign trail tells me that John McCain wants to be President. Nothing more.
Pro-life without clear dedication to protecting children. Claims of being in favor of increased border security while brokering amnesty schemes with Teddy Kennedy. Claims of giving us constructionalist jurists on the SCOTUS while curtiailing First Amendment rights for individuals.
John McCain is a walking talking hypocrite. He’ll say all sorts of things while campaigning that he conveniently forgets when actually in office.
highhopes on May 6, 2008 at 4:03 PM
I fully agree with this. As Rush pointed out, you had McCain slamming the NC GOP for running an anti-Wright ad against the local NC Dem Gubernatorial candidates, and McCain quickly condemned them. What exactly is his plan to salvage the GOP in Congress? - there are so many vacant GOP seats there that risk being lost to the Dems.
McCain has in the past and even now stated that it’s wrong to support Republicans just because they have an (R) after their names, and has spent most of his energy lying about Romney, while slamming Tom Delay and Ted Stephens, as though Stephens was the only pork shopper in Congress and Delay was the only corrupt leader there (think the Dems won’t resurrect the Keating 5?) In 2004, we had a GOP president, Congress and Senate, and still couldn’t get our policies and nominees moved, thanks to the likes of Lincoln Chafee, George Voinovich, Arlen Specter, Olympia Snowe, Lindsey Gramm and McCain himself, on various issues from Gang of 14 to nomination of John Bolton, Miguel Estrada, et al. We had McCain cross over several times and support Democrat positions. And we are supposed to believe that as president, he’ll do just the opposite of what he’s done as a senator? For geniuses like these (such as Michael Medved), I have oceanfront property in Arizona that I’d like to sell.
Thankfully, Chafee, Voinovich, DeWine have been flushed out of Congress, but that hasn’t been enough - we now have McCain as our nominee, thanks to the independents and Dems who did in NH, NC, and other states what we’re now doing across the country, since our nominee has been fixed by our enemies. I have a lot more respect for the Obamas of the world who are loyal to their position and don’t indulge in antics like the Gang of 14, than I have for Clinton or McCain. I just wish we had someone like him on the GOP side (minus of course the Wright and Ayres connections).
McCain has gone out of his way to reach across the aisle, as well as stating that it’s wrong to support Republicans just because they have an (R) after their names. We Republicans should follow his instructions and example and rather than give him that opportunity to reach out again, we ought to do the reaching out for him by voting Obama. Yeah, I disagree with him as much as the next guy, but I can’t stomach the idea of a traitor like McCain, or a power abuser like Clinton in the White House.
infidelpride on May 6, 2008 at 4:06 PM
So backing the candidate that most closely fit my values and viewpoints makes it “voting in spite?” What a nasty bitter lot you McCain people become when the rest of us dare question your sense of reality!
A Democrat will win no matter the outcome of the election. And again, those of us in the GOP that disagree with McCain’s amnesty schemes or tepid support of qualified CONSERVATIVE jurists have a right to voice our opinions every bit as much as you rabid intolerant left-of-center “Republicans” that infest the party.
highhopes on May 6, 2008 at 4:11 PM
I have been emailing my super delegates to come out for Hillary. My own personal OP CHAOS since in California we have shot our wad on the primary.
jukin on May 6, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Too many black people show up at the polls, they’re racist. Mostly white Republicans show up “in droves” and we cheer Operation Chaos.
Thanks Easter Bunny!!
The Race Card on May 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Broadripple is a very artsy section of Indianapolis. I’d expect more Obama backers there.
mikeyboss on May 6, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Well, I just voted for Chaos, in Indiana. No problems.
paratrooper on May 6, 2008 at 5:34 PM
You should be proud. People died so you could mock the franchise. I hope your skin is thick when it happens to us.
The Race Card on May 6, 2008 at 6:35 PM
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