Newt to GOP: Change course now or face calamity in November
posted at 4:21 pm on May 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Without Change, there’s no Hope.
The Republican loss in the special election for Louisiana’s Sixth Congressional District last Saturday should be a sharp wake up call for Republicans: Either Congressional Republicans are going to chart a bold course of real change or they are going to suffer decisive losses this November…
This defeat follows on the loss of Speaker Hastert’s seat in Illinois. That seat had been held by a Republican for 76 years with the single exception of the 1974 Watergate election when the Democrats held it for one term. That same seat had been carried by President Bush 55-44% in 2004…
A February Washington Post poll shows that Republicans have lost the advantage to the Democrats on which party can handle an issue better — on every single topic…
This is a catastrophic collapse of trust in Republicans built up over three generations on the deficit, two generations on taxes, and two generations on national security.
Most ominously: “The Republican brand has been so badly damaged that if Republicans try to run an anti-Obama, anti-Reverend Wright, or (if Senator Clinton wins), anti-Clinton campaign, they are simply going to fail.” Yup, pretty much. Follow the link for his nine-point triage plan, none of which, surprisingly, has to do with global warming. I like the earmark moratorium, which jibes with McCain’s own agenda, and red meat on judges and English as the official language will help with the base (but beware alienating Latino voters). Overhauling the census, though? Space-based GPS for air-traffic control? I get the point of reducing bureaucracy, but are these really the kind of meat and potatoes issues that are going to push GOP congressional candidates over the top? “I’m disgusted with Bush and the war, honey, but that space-based GPS idea convinced me to give the Republicans another look.”
Exit question: How bad is it going to be in November?
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Doing global warming commercials with Dems ain’t helping there Newt.
TroubledMonkey on May 6, 2008 at 4:25 PM
When there is no meaningful difference between the GOP and the Democrats, the GOP always loses.
When the principles of substantive Conservatism are presented as a clear, viable alternative to the Democrat’s vision of Statism, the GOP always wins.
ColtsFan on May 6, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Their idiots are worse than our idiots.
EJDolbow on May 6, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Newt who? Did Nancy approve this message?
tomk59 on May 6, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Really? Like in 1964?
America’s trending left. Face it.
Allahpundit on May 6, 2008 at 4:28 PM
We can crack all the jokes about global warming commercials we want, but he’s mostly on-target.
amerpundit on May 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM
I wonder Newt does palling it up with Pelosi and shilling for Al Gore count as part of your winning strategy?
I’ve had the same discussion with a Democrat recently. It’s not the “GOP brand” (Boy does reducing politics down to a marketing gimmick piss me off.) that is ruined it’s the fact that no one believes the current GOP leadership has any intention of actually following that brand or image.
bj1126 on May 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.
I would use the language in that clip, but I don’t think the boss would like that too much.
steveegg on May 6, 2008 at 4:30 PM
one problem is moderates have bought into the Dem/Lib gospel on certain issue and are ready for “change”.
the special election in Lousianna wasn’t a true dem winning, it was a Dem that ran a as a Repub.(like HEath Schuler in NC in 2006), refused to endorse either Dem Pres. nominee and took very moderate to conservative stances. and the GOP in turn ran a bad candidate against that.
jp on May 6, 2008 at 4:30 PM
What is it about Georgia and discredited politicians?
mymanpotsandpans on May 6, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Newt = Correct. Very correct. The Republican party is a dinosaur and will be extinct in just a few years. And after the next 8 years of O’Bambam, the Democrat party will encounter the same destination. Political parties think people are stupid. They count on people being stupid and insist upon people being stupid. People won’t be stupid after they’ve all lost their jobs and are having a hard time feeding their kids. People won’t be stupid any longer after China pulls the ripcord and the rest of the world says ‘yawn’ and goes back about their business as America sinks further and further into debt.
Griz on May 6, 2008 at 4:31 PM
I’ve never cared for Bush nor the Iraqi war but not sure I agree with Newt on the presidential. I think the silent majority will look past the economy and vote(unfortunately)for the much lesser of evils(McCain). He is very much correct on all other levels of government which overall have more impact than the president does.
DCJeff on May 6, 2008 at 4:31 PM
I don’t believe so. I think Republicans politicians have just bee horribly inept in their presentation of conservative values or not conservative at all. Why choose the liberal light when you can have the real thing?
bj1126 on May 6, 2008 at 4:31 PM
The Dumbing Down of America.
Connie on May 6, 2008 at 4:31 PM
SECOND LOOK AT RITUAL SUICIDE!
Allahpundit on May 6, 2008 at 4:31 PM
I agree. Then are the 9 points really gonna do any good then?
I think the most we can do is let Dems take over and remind the people where they are failing.
terryannonline on May 6, 2008 at 4:31 PM
It’ll be bad in November unless the GOP can reclaim some credibility on reducing the size of the government and fiscal restraint. Right now they’ve got congressional leadership that’s failed on most of the desires of those Reagan Democrats.
nerdbert on May 6, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Dude, I think you’re right.
Allahpundit on May 6, 2008 at 4:34 PM
if only the GOP held congress and senate, i’d be for a Dem term then to pin everything on them.
potentially the Dems are about to really screw up the country in so many ways. Will they go as far as “price controls” on gas prices again?
jp on May 6, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Here’s some points to add to his list
– Get the word out about the success of the surge. Emphasize the Democrats opposition to it.
– Congress’ approval rating is lower than the president’s, so people realize that they’re not doing their job. They don’t seem to realize that it is Democrats who are running the show. That linkage must be emphasized.
– Start publicizing Republicans who are doing a good job to combat the negative image propagated by the MSM.
– Reveal the lock down on judges by the Senate and pledge to fight for the Originalists still waiting their turn.
– Return to limited government and lower taxes, with a focus on a balanced budget. Sign another Contract with America pledging these, and to end earmarks.
If you show me a Republican doing these things, I’d even donate him/her some money.
JeffC_95 on May 6, 2008 at 4:35 PM
“Republicans were able to reduce air traffic congestion, cut costs, and even pay more for quality air traffic controllers.”
That’s good governance. That is an issue that the media has put into the back of people’s minds. A problen Republicans can turnover to the free market to solve, and get credit for. Republicans no longer have the reputation for good governance, this is an issue that compliments the others.
“We cut ALL pork, we solved airplane delays, we took egregious examples of waste and fixed them. You want it done? You want it done right? Elect us. ”
That is not something the GOP can say this fall with a straight face. They need to ring of a few wins. Air traffic won’t stand alone as a key issue, it is part of the package.
Just my opinion.
Theworldisnotenough on May 6, 2008 at 4:35 PM
I’m not convinced America is trending left. Maybe in the short term, but we have plenty of instances of further left then now such as Wilson or FDR. I don’t think elections confirm political philosophy, I think there are too many other factors of considerable weight- charisma not the least among them.
Spirit of 1776 on May 6, 2008 at 4:36 PM
Well considering the fact that Newt has higher negatives than Nancy Pelosi and was pretty much forced from politics, is he the one to be giving advice?
From what I hear that race in Louisiana had the conservative vote split, sort of like a Perot redux and that allowed a Democrat to win. However, we should remember that Jindal won that state. He is the first Republican since Reconstruction to do so and the first person of color ever.
I have no idea how it will go this fall, that is a long way off in terms of politics. It depends on lots of things from Iraq to the price of oil to how much damage the Democrats do to themselves in the process.
And I do not think that the problem is that people do not think there is a difference between Republicans and Democrats. I think part of the problem is that Republicans have failed to reach out to different kinds of people. Alienating people will not win elections. Democrats on the other hand, have so many different kinds of people in the party that they have become the big tent party.
Terrye on May 6, 2008 at 4:37 PM
The more the Dems make fighting for our very existence look like madness, the more seats they will win. Either they are doing a great job with downplaying the war, or there are some very stupid people out there with voting rights that just want one word slogans and a minority ID President to feel good about America.
Hening on May 6, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Thank you Jorge Bush and Juan McCain for the demise of the Conservative REpublican Party.
stenwin77 on May 6, 2008 at 4:37 PM
or Homicide?
upinak on May 6, 2008 at 4:38 PM
screw it, time for our Caesar to come…Petraus? Ollie North? hmmm
/joking…..kinda
jp on May 6, 2008 at 4:38 PM
At least Newt put blame where it should be, on the spineless R’s in Congress. They lost and are losing because they aren’t practicing conservatism.
I’m surprised he was able to leave Nancy’s lap long enough to type this out though.
Darksean on May 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Seriously, I don’t look to Newt for an answer to our problems.
bnelson44 on May 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Schwarzkopf?
I am not even sure that guy is alive anymore.
upinak on May 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Spirit:
I think America is still a center right country. It might trend a little left from time to time, but its core is not left. However, the American people want someone solving problems, not arguing about them endlessly. And after awhile people just want a change.
Terrye on May 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Bush and McCain can hardly carry all of the weight here. How do you talk about cutting pork and fiscal responsibility when you’ve got Ted Stevens building astronomically-expensive bridges to nowhere. How do you talk about ethics when you have Larry Craig, Mark Foley, and Republican senators changing legislation after it’s been passed.
amerpundit on May 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM
If I thought it would be 60 Dems, I’d agree. I’ll say it will be closer to 57, but given the lack of Republicanism among the trunk-wearing half of the bipartisan Party-In-Government, it will be close enough for government work.
On second thought, it’s time to explore those methods.
steveegg on May 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM
what you aren’t understanding is if they took your stance on Immigration, they’d lose the hispanic vote for atleast a generation and the Dems would win everything. The party has been put in a tough spot on several issues, an absolute disaster. If Global warming becomes a religion here like in Europe, we are finished.
jp on May 6, 2008 at 4:40 PM
Sorry, but it’s not the politicians who are to blame. Even I cringe when I see a conservative harp on about the “nanny state” and “liberals spending my tax dollars on stuff I don’t want” then demanding liberals spend their taxes funding the Iraq war.
Darth Executor on May 6, 2008 at 4:40 PM
I completely agree with you…but conservatives will always fight because they actually believe in something…IMHO basically the 60’s hippies have power positions now…and are smart enough to know how to use them to influence our youth…
DCJeff on May 6, 2008 at 4:40 PM
That should have quoted AP on the country moving to the left….
DCJeff on May 6, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Exit answer: 1984 in reverse and a brick on the accelerator.
Limerick on May 6, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Newt’s proposals are pretty darned weak. This touches on an issue that really matters, but it lacks specificity:
Stopping the ethanol madness is nowhere on the list, and why not push again to drill in ANWR and offshore now? Aren’t the American people ready to say screw the flipping caribou, I have a tank to fill and family to feed at this point?
Buy Danish on May 6, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Let me guess Paulbot?
bj1126 on May 6, 2008 at 4:42 PM
There’s a difference between national security and a hippie museum.
amerpundit on May 6, 2008 at 4:43 PM
I thought about him but wasn’t going to try and spell his name. Patton may have been the best option here and he didn’t take it.
jp on May 6, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Hey Newt:
Ever heard the saying “Closing the Barn Door AFTER the horse has been stolen”? Where were you during the Republican primary process…and the prior 7 years when Republicans still had some control over Congress?
You’re NOT helping anything by advocating capitulation of our principles to the left: you can’t expect to gain victory via surrender: Surrender is always a LOSS!!
There’s plenty of opportunity to turn things around. Conservative candidates should stand up for REAL energy production from REAL 24/7 sources and for REAL border security NOW!!! Those positions would represent a REAL TURNAROUND from the extreme left and RINO leftist policies which have created huge problems for our country.
landlines on May 6, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Jaibones on May 6, 2008 at 4:46 PM
I don’t necessarily agree we’d lose the hispanic vote for at least a generation, because those here legally would probably split for rule of law. The main problem is our position is being warped and we’re allowing it.
However, you allow amnesty you and will have a PERMANENT democratic majority. McShamnesty seems to think that if he is the one to allow 20 million law-breakers they will all vote for him. They still won’t, they will turn toward the nanny-staters (read: Dems) to have everything handed to them
Darksean on May 6, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Maybe it’s time for a whole new party? I mean parties have died in the past – or are the Republicans now too big to fail?
apollyonbob on May 6, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Yep, Newt is absolutely correct. It’s gonna suck, but our only strategy is ‘embrace the suck’. It means the marxists win, and that means 1000 years of medieval dark ages.
When you see that you are going to be raped, the only thing to do is smile, lay back and try to enjoy it. Perhaps they won’t kill you when they’re done.
Thanks Newt. We needed to hear that.
/do I need to tell you? Yes, sarcasm.
rockhauler on May 6, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Don’t think the GOP is dead just yet…think Steele-Jindal in 4-8 years…
DCJeff on May 6, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Depends on the issue. In terms of government’s role in lives, it’s undeniable. However, Newt does have a major point in focusing on the judiciary.
Here in Wisconsin, the liberals have gone 0-4 in the last 4 contested state Supreme Court elections, and #4 included the first unseating of an incumbent in 41 years. The bad news; McCain has no real credibility on the issue as a charter member of the Gang of 14, and that same election saw the failure of a faux judicial conservative in a high-profile appeals court election in the heart of conservatism (the outlying suburbs of Milwaukee).
steveegg on May 6, 2008 at 4:46 PM
What the GOP’s change will become? More liberal than the Democratic Party?
Maybe Newt should start by himself.
I wonder how’s it feel sleeping with that old hag Nancy Paleolosi.
Indy Conservative on May 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Correct — but how’s about your sitting on that couch with Nancy Pelosi, Newt? Was that “traditional?”
Wow, we have this here real crisis, Newt, but we have to wait for next week’s newsletter for your pearls of wisdom on a “pro-environment energy bill?” Do y’all have to finalize negotiations with Nancy Pelosi first?
Go away, Newt.
Nichevo on May 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM
what we really need a takeover of is the Media, they set the agenda and national dialogue. the dems have basically made fox out to be THE bias news network to the traditional networks being the standard in the mainstream.
just listen to how absolutely stupid the Whitehouse Press Corp is sometime and ask yourself how if you were president could you get your message through those idiots and then to the Nation. No easy task.
I firmly beleive if the media was conservative we’d have a permanent conservative majority…along with possibly teaching econ 101 in schools
jp on May 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM
stenwin:
Oh please. George Bush brought a huge majority for Republicans. In 2002, they were all over him. He is the same man today he was then. And John McCain is the only Republican who showed any real ability to carry a majority in a gneral election. That was something Newt Gingrich could never do.
And as for the Jorge and Juan stuff, that did not help Republicans in 2006 and it will not help them now. I was told time and again that most Americans would be willing to pay more for food and goods and services if it would get rid of the migrants and the nannies and all those people. That was all some people cared about. Well, tell me after oil has more than doubled do you really think that most Americans would want to see food prices go up more just to get rid of Ag labor? No, they are worried about paying the bills, buying gas to get to work.
I am not saying the border should not be dealt with, but the obsession and almost fanatical intensity that some people showed about this issue just plain turned a lot of people off.
Terrye on May 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM
I think we had all better brace ourselves for just how bad it’s going to get. President Obama with a filibuster proof majority of democrats. Bush tax cuts expire 2010, so starting Jan 2009 huge cuts in take home pay. 3 supremes will retire within 90 days to be replaced with uber libs. Plant and animal rights are more sympathetic to the masses than the silent screams of unborn human beings. The fairness doctrine passes. The most radical, left-wing phase in our country’s history will commence, with the perfect storm of uber political correctness permeating an administration that wants to dialog with radical islam.
Or, McCain wins and we go a little left, but not over the cliff.
America decides.
JustTruth101 on May 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Isn’t naive of us to believe that during war we weren’t going spend money? It annoys me when Hillary Clinton says “We left Bush a surplus?” Sure, but we were also doing zip about Al Qaeda.
terryannonline on May 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Given both Gingrich and McCain are Gorebal Warming acolytes,….
steveegg on May 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM
If that’s true, then America and the free world are on the decline. Since the United States is the exception in the world, and history for that matter, that would be very bad news for the future of mankind. European socialism, which most on the Left wish to emulate, is partially supported by military burdens shouldered by the US and stoked by our capitalistic drive and innovation. They are in sorry shape, but they’d be in a much worse place if there wasn’t an America to allow them to be nanny-states.
Personally, I don’t see it. If you go issue by issue with your average Obama fan, you’ll find out that they really don’t agree with a lot of what he proposes.
Most people live their lives conservatively, no matter who they vote for. But I can see a situation where, after a long period of peace that Americans could become complacent and begin to consider their own navels more than the world at large. Left alone, stagnation might set in and things would begin to become a bit threadbare and worn.
But there are millions of people out there that aren’t interested in allowing the US to quietly fade away. And if we ignore them, if we pretend like electing a Democrat to the White House can make things right with the world, they’ll come to test our resolve again.
We’ll see where our collective heart lies on that day.
Asher on May 6, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Yeah, I believe the same period of “surplus” was when Osama was plotting 9/11 and Billy Jeff was sitting on his hands.
amerpundit on May 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM
No WAY!
Jinal-Palin!
upinak on May 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM
I disagree. On things like immigration, affirmative action, life, and judges, the country is moving right. On some other things, like taxes, the pendulum is moving left, but mainly as a result of past conservative successes.
Anyway, any discussion of “conservatism” before Reagan is moot. There was no national movement outside intellectual circles until then.
As for the video you posted, Allah, I’m curious now as to whether you’d rather be thought of as Hudson instead of Eeyore. I think think the Hudson analogy is actually more apt, considering how apocalyptic and panicked your band of pessimism is.
Nessuno on May 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Trending left, apparently, but still center-right according to the same studies that support that idea.
The Democrats have been overbidding, and the current group have shown precious little skill at actually legislating or governing. In addition, our system of government is inherently conservative in the sense that it can make getting anything done slow and difficult.
If the Democrats unite the government under them, they will likely either have to dispense with many of their campaign promises or attempt an even deeper gambit, offering an ever more hard left program in order to deal with ever more resistant economic and security realities. I have no doubt that they will do untold damage in either case, but the idea that it will be easy to get rid of them once they’re fully ensconced in power is delusory. Ronald Reagan the Second might come riding out of the West on his white horse – but it’s at least as likely that the Dems would hold power for twenty years, and do a much better job than the Republicans under George Bush have done at using crises to consolidate their hold on power.
CK MacLeod on May 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Jindal*
Ok I need to stop drinking redbulls
upinak on May 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Well, Newt’s a bright guy and has some good ideas–as well as some wacky ones–but let’s just remember that this is the same guy who around a year ago was giving 80/20 on Hillary being inevitable.
Typhoon on May 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM
I was trying to be a little sunny optimist for a very brief second. :-)
Upon my return to reality, the fact that Chicago suburbs are going blue, and signs like this, as well as these future voters after an inevitable John McCain amnesty lead me to believe you are right.
After all, we are not importing tens of millions of people who read Milton Friedman and Bill Buckley books.
ColtsFan on May 6, 2008 at 4:50 PM
A vast number of American’s have been ‘brain washed’ by the msm, lib’s., and some rep. that we can not possibly survive without the ‘government’ coming in to solve every problem in our lives. From kids, kids schools, food, oil, baseball, buying a house, our credit cards, I could go on and on. We need ‘hearings’ on every aspect in our lives so ‘big brother’ can make it all better. We, as good little taxpayers, just let the elected dictate how ‘our’ taxes get spent. The ‘R’ is indeed a dinosaur, it once stood for a person who actually took their lives in their own hands and taking responsibility for their actions. No need for that in the future. God Bless the USA, it will soon be a memory I knew.
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letget on May 6, 2008 at 4:51 PM
SECOND LOOK AT VIABLE THIRD PARTY
Both parties just suck. The lefties are insane, the righties are dumb, deaf and blind.
Plus, the district has the most NO refugees. Beware the foxes, similar to 2006, where they posed as conservatives, or middle-to-right, until they’re in, in the House and the Senate.
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 4:53 PM
ColtsFan is right. 1964 was an exception…the country wanted stability in the wake of the JFK assasination. If you take 1964 out of the picture, the last Democrat to get a larger percentage of the popular vote than Bush got in 2004 was…FDR!
Milton Friedman won a Nobel Prize in Economics for showing how policies the Federal Reserve put in place led to the speculation that caused the Great Depression. So FDR was helped by what the Fed did.
Socialists use national tragedy as their opportunity to make this country more socialist. Where did Social[ist] [In]Security come from? We should all thank God that George W. Bush, and not Al Gore, was in office on September 11, 2001.
Red Pill on May 6, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Let me guess, moron? I hate Ron Paul. I simply can’t stand hypocrisy, no matter where it comes from. Call me stupid names all you want, but independents are gonna see it the same way I do and your hubris and the hubris of others like you is gonna cost us all.
Darth Executor on May 6, 2008 at 4:53 PM
It is so bad that Democrats and independents gave the most liberal Republican on the ballot enough momentum to secure the GOP nomination for president.
It is so bad that this candidate and the sitting president are too afraid to face down liberalism with facts thus becoming active participants in the destruction of the United States from within.
It is so bad that this lack of leadership will result in an overwhelmingly Democrat Congress and White House. When the wheels come off (as they must under socialism), the blame will be placed squarely on the shoulders of Republicans who will not refute the charges against them.
Are there any men left in Washington?
Valiant on May 6, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Exit question: How bad is it going to be in November?
FAIL!
ihasurnominashun on May 6, 2008 at 4:54 PM
I think it will be a blood bath.
Zorro on May 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Congressional R’s are in general a disgrace. They deserve to lose and lose badly. Newt’s got a couple good ideas, but as was pointed out, most are just odd.
Gas tax holiday will save the day? And what in the world is “Introduce a “more energy at lower cost with less environmental damage and greater national security bill”"???? What does Newt “Mr Global Warming” think will be in this bill?
Clark1 on May 6, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Here’s the three step process for changing course.
1. Define the ideals.
2. Write the narrative.
3. Grab as many people you can to go along with the story.
Everything has to be bottom-up. There isn’t much the national GOP can do.
ninjapirate on May 6, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Darksean:
I think it would be possible to push for strong border security and enforcement without losing the hispanic vote if some people on the right would ease up on the rhetoric.
I have heard things on talk radio and seen things on line that would make it damn difficult for me to vote Republican, if I actually believed that stuff was representative of the party.
You can not look at the shift away from Republicans by hispanics in 2006 and not consider the possibility that the GOP has already lost that demographic.
Terrye on May 6, 2008 at 4:57 PM
I’m inclined to think so. American rugged individualism is still strong.
Spirit of 1776 on May 6, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Liberals don’t think Iraq is a national security issue, and hippie museums aren’t the only thing conservatives complain about. Replace it with “universal health-care” or “public schools” and it’s not so easy to dismiss.
And for the record, I’m against universal health care, having been exposed to it far more than I would like up here in the Progressive Utopia called Toronto.
Anyway, my point is that if you’re gonna complain about spending, either don’t spend yourself against the will of a huge chunk of the population OR give good, well thought out reasons as to why liberal spending is stupid on an issue by issue basis. Don’t just say “I don’t wanna pay for it” and spend people’s money on things they don’t want to buy, it just makes you look like a tool and costs you elections.
Darth Executor on May 6, 2008 at 4:58 PM
What’s scary is that new policies that the Federal Reserve has recently put in place (like the whole Bear Sterns deal) have the potential to create a totally new Great Depression. Even George Soros is being called a “prophet” in saying so.
I believe their goal is get an unstoppable Democrat majority (either with a filibuster-proof majority or via control of the presidency), spark a Depression, and voila, Socialist States of America.
Red Pill on May 6, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Dated video. They mostly come during the day now. Mostly with placards. Mostly with lots of misspellings.
You can spot them by their head tilts.
Dusty on May 6, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Actually not all Independents will agree with you. I for one won’t and I have no problems funding the war.
upinak on May 6, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Yes, plenty, eunichs.
Very few.
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 4:59 PM
There’s Hillary Clinton but he’s batting for the other team.
Darth Executor on May 6, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Man, Allah had a good one in another Thread. Now you. Wow I am giggling up a storm today! :)
upinak on May 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Not again! How many bad GOP candidates do we have? An endless supply.
Well, there’s this Party. Tell me why I shouldn’t re-register there?
kirkill on May 6, 2008 at 5:01 PM
You think it’s ok to spend other people’s money against the iwill and complain when they spend your money against your will?
Darth Executor on May 6, 2008 at 5:01 PM
I believe ihasurnominashun is a Democrat troll.
The very screen name is a giveaway to the Democrat’s plan to make McCain the nominee.
Red Pill on May 6, 2008 at 5:01 PM
a smart congressman or Senator or GOP governor should recognize the vacuum thats been created and step in and fill it soon, become the national leader. there are alot of challenges on the issues though and the media of course.
the Left/Media strategy has been to constantly demonize the Repubs and throw as much against the wall as possible to eventually turn public opinion. It worked, just look at the gradual slide in Repub. favorbility polls, it didnt’ happen over night.
jp on May 6, 2008 at 5:02 PM
I think Newt needs to explore the possibility of a career change. He’s really starting to jangle my nerves. I hate all this Chicken Little crap. It was only four years ago that Kerry got his ass whupped while the dems lost seats both the Senate & the House. The world didn’t come to an end for them then, and it ain’t coming to an end for us now. Suck .. it .. up .., ladies.
argos on May 6, 2008 at 5:02 PM
upinak, you might have said “Man” in general – lady here, just like you.
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Comment of the Day™
steveegg on May 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM
national security is the one legitimate role of our Republic at the federal role…unlike welfare.
jp on May 6, 2008 at 5:04 PM
You obviously have never worked in Government. No matter what you are going to complain about “How” they spend your money, from Federal, State, Sales and Medicare and SS. As for the “OIF and OEF Wars” I have NO problems. If I am paying Federal Taxes to help my Brothers and Sister in the Military and they can get the resources they need to help them in the War(s), more power to me to give it to them.
I pay my Taxes, I support the Troops and the War. I am a Conservative to the Core and I don’t back down from ignorant posts of those who think they know it all. I can even admit when I am wrong.
What is your excuse? Other then you are complaining. You sound like a libertarian more then a Independent! And a whiney one at that.
upinak on May 6, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Looks like Dr. Chuck Baldwin, the Constitution Party candidate is a Ronulan Paulite clone. *sigh*. I like a lot of what they say, but I don’t think we can go totally isolationist.
kirkill on May 6, 2008 at 5:05 PM
And the Republicans have done nothing about it. Just once I’d like to see Bush toss a slander lawsuit at someone accusing him of starting the Iraq war for oil. Not gonna happen in my lifetime, and given current trends, not gonna happen, ever.
Darth Executor on May 6, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Comment of the Day Part Deux™
steveegg on May 6, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Opps! LOL, you go girl!
upinak on May 6, 2008 at 5:06 PM
The GOP is in disarray because far too many of us have accepted – either out of intimidation or guilt – the Left’s premises. Typical example: Newt buys into “climate change”. Game over – Left wins, since the battle is no longer over what’s right, but how to implement the Left’s agenda. And if I remember correctly, Newt has also praised Hillary Clinton’s good intentions. Game over.
Halley on May 6, 2008 at 5:06 PM
argos is right. And for anyone thinking of a third party, remember Ross Perot. How did that work out for Republicans?
Terrye on May 6, 2008 at 5:06 PM
I hope Bush realizes he aint done once he’s back in Crawford. He needs to come out publicly, be on TV as much as possible, and say what he couldn’t say as President. and hopefully do so articulately. One thing that amazes me about him is he doesn’t lose his temper, unlike the Dems.
jp on May 6, 2008 at 5:08 PM
At some point, AP, you’re going to have to include the clip from the same movie where Paxton says “I don’t know if you’ve been keeping up with current events pal, but we just got our asses kicked out there.”
thirteen28 on May 6, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Darth:
If Bush sued the press they would only demonize him some more. The problem is not the crap the liberal press says, it is his fellow conservatives who are all too ready to abandon him to save their own skins. Gingrich, Noonan, Novak, etc.
Terrye on May 6, 2008 at 5:08 PM
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