Comments on: Hillary lowering expectations in North Carolina?

By: whitetop

whitetop — Tue, 06 May 2008 18:39:11 +0000

Like her or not

Not.

By: The Opinionator

The Opinionator — Tue, 06 May 2008 18:38:40 +0000

In comments on other threads I mentioned the fact that NC has early voting and Obama supportes took advantage of that in droves. Lines were well over an hour (in many case two or more) on the last day of early voting in Durham and other predominantly AA areas of the Triangle.

Net, I think Obama +9 in NC.

By: kirkill

kirkill — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:55:32 +0000

Tucker Carlson had a good analogy for Hillary hanging on…she’s like the cat you try to shove into the cat carrier to take to the vet. Fighting and clawing all the way.

By: saiga

saiga — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:24:12 +0000

Just stealing a page from Bill’s “come back kid” playbook. See, we didn’t loose as badly as it was thought so it’s a victory.

TooTall on May 6, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Bingo…Like her or not, you have to admire her tenacity. She seems to want it pretty bad. The higher you go, the thinner the air, and the sharper the knives. Obambi isn’t case hardened enough yet to knife fight with Hillary.

It will sure be a mess if Hillary gets the nomination. It will be a McCain landslide if Obama gets the nomination. Hillary will have a good argument for sure, and the gloves will come off during convention time. It should be sweeeeeeeet.

By: Weebork

Weebork — Tue, 06 May 2008 17:01:15 +0000

I heard Rush mention this earlier. Who knows. She’s staying in regardless if she does well or not. All that really matters to me is Clinton is doing enough to keep Obama from being the presumptive nominee. I’m happy liberal identity politics has caught up to them and are biting them back in the ass.

By: TooTall

TooTall — Tue, 06 May 2008 16:54:17 +0000

Just stealing a page from Bill’s “come back kid” playbook. See, we didn’t loose as badly as it was thought so it’s a victory.

By: jon1979

jon1979 — Tue, 06 May 2008 16:46:21 +0000

It’s just a pre-emptive strike to maintain momentum, so the spin tomorrow won’t be that Obama has just barely stopped the bleeding with a narrow win in North Carolina, but that Hillary defied expectations with a narrow loss, and that Barak’s downward spiral continues. Hack the Clinton campaign’s main PR computer and you can probably already find the draft text of that statement.

By: 2theright

2theright — Tue, 06 May 2008 16:43:45 +0000

I live in central North Carolina, I’ve seen a few Hillary signs but not many, No Obama signs. Not many McCain signs either. Signs I’ve seen are mostly for local races.

By: Vyce

Vyce — Tue, 06 May 2008 16:38:51 +0000

Yeah, I smell something fishy here. I’m wondering if they have internal data which shows it a lot closer than people expect, so that if she loses this one by only a small margin (and by that I mean 5% or less), her camp can spin this as a victory-that-isn’t-that-much-of-a-victory for Barack (considering, as Ed pointed out, Obama was once winning the state – with heavy African-American voting percentages – by over 20 points), with our plucky “heroine” Hillary doing better than previously expected, even in defeat.

Regardless, I stand by my earlier remarks that if she pulls it close in NC, within 5 points let’s say, and wins Indiana handily, then the DNC can’t amp up the pressure to force her out, especially since she’s set to destroy Obama in West Virginia (and possibly Kentucky).

This all leads to a bloody showdown at the convention in August. At least, I hope it does.

By: Outlander

Outlander — Tue, 06 May 2008 16:37:20 +0000

Why in God’s name would Hillary concede defeat while the polls are still open? I’d be pushing very hard to get every one of my supporters to the polls, not saying “oh well, looks like we’re going to lose.” It takes probably 15-20 minutes for someone to vote in a primary. Why give up that kind of time if you don’t think your vote will count because your candidate has already thrown in the towel?

Self-fulfilling prophecy, anyone?

By: HawaiiLwyr

HawaiiLwyr — Tue, 06 May 2008 16:35:40 +0000

I was going to write something insightful then realized I don’t care if she wins or not – except how it affects Operation C.H.A.O.S.

By: amerpundit

amerpundit — Tue, 06 May 2008 16:32:40 +0000

Reality or spin?

Spin. She knows she’s going to lose there, it’s just a matter of how much. If they set an expected 15-point loss, then lose by only 4, it looks good for them.

By: Jay

Jay — Tue, 06 May 2008 16:20:16 +0000

I thought the exact same thing when i saw this at Drudge. I’m hoping she squeaks out an actual win there.