A McCain pas de deux?
posted at 6:59 am on May 6, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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John McCain has a tough tightwire act to perform in this year’s election He has to find ways to reach out to conservatives while maintaining his credentials as an independent thinker if he wants to win the Presidency in a year which history indicates would normally produce a party change in the White House. The risk for McCain is in going too far to the center to keep conservative activists in the fold — and CNN’s Peter Hamby reports that McCain may have stuck his toe out over the edge on the one issue guaranteed to enrage the Right:
John McCain the presidential candidate suddenly sounded like the John McCain of 2005 on Monday, touting two pet issues that have generated considerable heartache among grassroots conservatives: the “Gang of 14” compromise and comprehensive immigration reform.
McCain brought up the “Gang of 14” saga unprompted at a town hall here, in advance of a major speech on judicial appointments he is set to deliver tomorrow in Winston-Salem. …
The Arizona senator also seemed to move past his usual “secure the borders first” mantra in favor of calling for, as he put it, “comprehensive immigration reform.”
Last summer, McCain and Sen. Edward Kennedy led the charge on an immigration reform package that aroused the ire of conservatives and ultimately threatened to undermine McCain’s then-frontrunning presidential bid. (McCain also supported immigration reform bills in 2005 and 2006.)
“Unless we enact comprehensive immigration reform I don’t think you can take it piecemeal,” he explained Monday, answering a question about providing visas for skilled workers.
McCain has an argument with the Gang of 14, although at the time I bitterly opposed it. It uncorked the judicial confirmation process, which had ground to a halt by 2005, and de-escalated the standoff to the point where George Bush got two Supreme Court justices confirmed to the bench. The Gang saved the judicial filibuster, which I still believe to be illegitimate, but some Republicans might find it handy in a Barack Obama presidency.
However, if McCain thinks he can start talking about comprehensive immigration reform outside the context of securing the borders first, he is very much mistaken. Conservative activists have watched McCain carefully for that very misstep, and if they catch him in it, all of the outreach he has done to the Right will vanish in an instant. Addressing the open-borders activist group National Council of La Raza reinforces the queasy feeling conservatives have about the commitment McCain has to securing the border at all, let alone as the vital beginning of any look at immigration policy.
The Hill, meanwhile, reports that McCain wants to build enthusiasm among conservatives with a focus on judicial nominations in the upcoming term, when at least two openings are expected to arise:
Seeking to overcome the right’s persistent mistrust, McCain will speak Tuesday on the importance of nominating conservative jurists to the federal courts, including the Supreme Court.
Along with abortion, this is one of the few areas where the candidate agrees with leading social conservatives.
These leaders are coalescing around the idea that the GOP should pledge in its official platform that the president should nominate only judges with clear conservative records.
McCain will target Barack Obama’s vote against John Roberts in the Wake Forest address, a vulnerable spot for the Democrat who claims to want to reach across the aisle and put aside partisanship. Obama even tried to use the Roberts confirmation as an example of his New Politics, but McCain will remind his audience that Obama caved under pressure from his party leaders to toe the line on Roberts while other Democrats showed a lot more political courage. It demonstrates rather nicely the hollow rhetoric of a rookie politician who has not taken a single risky vote in the three short years he has been on Capitol Hill.
It seems like McCain has the tightwire act well under way, but he’d better be careful not to tip too far to the Left on immigration. The center for that policy supports a borders-first approach, and McCain will find it easier not to fall if he follows that path.
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Everyone is a maverick now. Why go for the fake, when you can throw rocks at the real deal. The English figured that out last Friday.
And how exactly will McLame get his judicial nominations approved and seated if Schumer doesn’t agree. Smoke and mirrors. Just because a candidate says they are for something doesn’t mean that something will ever stand a chance of seeing the light of day.
We being played. I am practicing — How do you like my jive talking?
tarpon on May 6, 2008 at 7:30 AM
I thought he ‘got the message’…
Darksean on May 6, 2008 at 7:36 AM
If Juan Pablo McCain thinks he has every conservative voter wrapped up, simply due to his being the last man standing in the Republican race, he’d better think again.
And the speech yesterday to La Raza, his reminders of his easy bipartisan ways do not lend to his likability at all.
I wait to see whether or not he invites a real conservative to balance his ticket, before I could hold my nose and vote for him; otherwise, I intend to focus my time- and donations- on Congressional Republican races.
localmalcontent on May 6, 2008 at 7:40 AM
Now that the primary is over, I think he is very much mistaken. I’ve little doubt that the balance of the campaign will be filled with “my friends” and “they are all God’s children” (as if the office of the President is Pastor) and “that bill wouldn’t reach my desk”. I suspect strongly the days of referring to enforcement first are gone.
Spirit of 1776 on May 6, 2008 at 7:45 AM
See Ed, Obama was (W)right…you were just being bitter…
/sarc
In all seriousness, I agree with you that judicial filibusters are illegitimate and change the votes required for confirmation from 51 to 60. The blocked judicial confirmation process did have to be “uncorked”, but that was about to happen anyway with the change to the Senate rules to make judicial confirmations off-limits to filibusters. That would have been the preferable end game. McCain “preserved” something not worthy of being preserved, and allowed the Democrats to save face in the process. Typical case-study of John McCain.
Red Pill on May 6, 2008 at 7:46 AM
I will vote for Mac because of the Supreme Court issue and the WOT. I am hoping we have enough conservatives in Congress to block “immigration reform.” This makes local races vital. We need to work hard for House and Senate seats.
But if Mac loses White House over his stand on immigration, hopefully the Republican Party will wake up.
davidk on May 6, 2008 at 7:46 AM
I knew I was clinging to my Bible and guns a little harder in May 2005!
Ed Morrissey on May 6, 2008 at 7:49 AM
Please do not take the msm line that the gang of 14 made the confirmation of Roberts and Alito possible. They may be able to quietly block the confirmation of other judges but supreme court confirmations get front page and the demofascists knew that Alito and Roberts were solid any trying to demonize them would have backfired horribly. They took a couple of cheap shots but knew they couldn’t do their usual smear jobs. The gang of 14 knew this also and crumbled. Roberts and Alito were confirmed because they deserved to be confirmed and the leftists knew they could not stop it. Don’t fall for or help perpetrate revisionist history. They formation of the gang of 14 was to stymie the appointment of conservative judges and aid the fascists, plain and simple.
peacenprosperity on May 6, 2008 at 7:50 AM
He can’t be trusted on this issue. His spinners will say that these statements are intended to draw from the center, that he is appealing for the La Raza vote. He will not secure the border first. Period. He is what you thought he was.
kflynn on May 6, 2008 at 7:51 AM
McCain will p*ss on the American flag in favor of the Latino vote, special interests, and the right to say he’s thinking of all the “immigrants” here in this nation.
All the while, he won’t address any questions from Americans on illegal immigration, what the federal government will do about kicking Mexico’s ass into shape to take care of its own problems and how to keep its people from invading our country.
No matter how much of a “war hero” people say he is, McCain will sell out America for the Latino vote.
madmonkphotog on May 6, 2008 at 7:56 AM
From the look of it McCain is betting the farm that blue dogs will elect him. This whole judiciary ploy reminds me of a live rat trap.
He cannot get elected without the righties. A look at the 00 and 04 elections should be enough to tell him that. What good is it going to do to pick up 7% of the blue dogs when he throws out 15% of the the right?
Oh well. Looks like I better start that donkey as a second language class.
Limerick on May 6, 2008 at 8:05 AM
This is one of many wake up calls to McCainers to put the Kool-Aid away.
Someone needs to tell Coburn, et al. that he didn’t get the message. There must be an intervention of some type at the RNC convention.
Valiant on May 6, 2008 at 8:07 AM
Pardon me, Ed, but what outreach would that be? You’re making it up again — attributing things to McCain that aren’t there.
Illegal immigration is a big issue for many people, not just conservatives. We have three pro-amnesty candidates. I think the media will just ignore the topic.
BigD on May 6, 2008 at 8:08 AM
Perhaps Red Pill has the right idea. Couldn’t be much worse, could it?
a capella on May 6, 2008 at 8:22 AM
Pardon me, Ed, but what outreach would that be? You’re making it up again — attributing things to McCain that aren’t there.
* Coming to CPAC
* Bringing Steve Forbes onto his team
* Committing to judicial appointments like Alito and Roberts
* Committing to the Bush tax cuts
* Anti-pork statements
* War on terror
Just because you don’t want to pay attention, BigD, doesn’t mean I’m “making things up”.
Ed Morrissey on May 6, 2008 at 8:32 AM
McAmnesty+Linsey+Joey+Teddy=AMNESTY- do your math..Hillary will be stronger on this issue than any of the above mentioned CLOWNS. Also wake up..Cindy pulls the strings in that household, McPuppet is only made of wood and she pulls all the strings, and pulls it off all so well, with that all so meek attitude, without blinking an eye..She needs backs, strong backs to carry in all those beer kegs into the juice mills.. and like all elites they need cheap illegal labor (to increase their wealth), however when her and her Puppetman are done 20 million will no longer be illegal, problem solved. It will be like the best drug-high (coke,crack,herion etc.)anyone of these PATRIOTS have ever had the pleasure of doing..party on.
Legions on May 6, 2008 at 8:42 AM
2012 will not get here soon enough so we can have a rep candidate we will be excited about BOBBY!!!
BroncosRock on May 6, 2008 at 8:42 AM
- CPAC is beltway event — big deal.
- Bringing on Steve Forbes counts as outreach? Come on.
- Commitments to judges and taxes are words. Plus, he voted against the tax cuts in the first place.
See, I thought you meant actual OUTREACH, like the kind he is making toward La Raza, where he ostensibly would go before a conservative audience, or the press, and say something nice about conservatives as citizens, as people, as Americans. You know, recognize that they are an important voting bloc with opinions deserving of respect.
Believe me, I’m paying attention. And I appreciate your work - I just don’t like having to pick the sugar coating off each time.
BigD on May 6, 2008 at 8:48 AM
Yes. Like CPAC, the largest conservative activist event of the year. Where he did everything you just described.
Why doesn’t Forbes count? The man is a hero to fiscal conservatives. Some still regret he didn’t win the nomination after six years of budget-busting by the GOP.
Commitments on judges are just words — but so is a speech to La Raza. You seem to have an interesting double standard.
It’s not that he hasn’t made efforts, BigD, it’s that you don’t like him. That’s fine, but don’t accuse me of making things up.
Ed Morrissey on May 6, 2008 at 8:54 AM
McCain to conservatives:
“I will appoint strict constructionists like Robert and Alito.”
McCain to moderates, liberals and independents:
“Heh, heh, don’t worry about that crap — I have to say that. You know my record; sure I’ll appoint them, and then when my Democratic buddies in the Senate shoot them down, I’ll come up with “bipartisan” appointments that you’ll like.
Nichevo on May 6, 2008 at 9:00 AM
The more I hear McCain, the less comfortable I feel.
Sounds like the next four years could be a disaster regardless of who is in office, and it might be better if the Democrats get blamed. Sort of like after the disaster that was Jimmy Carter, we were able to win big in the following election. I just hope we’ll be able to win back more House & Senate seats compared to when Reagan won…
golfer1 on May 6, 2008 at 9:03 AM
Don’t LaRaza and CPAC have different opinions on illegal immigration? Which group is he lying to?
JiangxiDad on May 6, 2008 at 9:05 AM
McCain’s platform:
Secure the borders with
comprehensive immigration reform.
Designate illegal aliens as legal residents.
Now pass the butter, please.
maverick muse on May 6, 2008 at 9:15 AM
You know, Ed, I hate to argue with you and the discussion is useless at this point if we are going to discount everything McCain has said as “just words” — because if you want to say that about La Raza, then I can just as easily say it about CPAC. And that gets us nowhere.
As for Steve Forbes, well, McCain also has Juan Hernandez on his campaign team — what do you call that?
My point was that you write as if McCain has done some big outreach to the conservative base, and I disagree with that.
And since I am female and want to have the last word, I will submit to you that when you wrote last week about McCain “campaigning on the concepts of freedom and liberty” you were pretty much making it up.
With all due respect, Big D.
BigD on May 6, 2008 at 9:16 AM
ANYONE who regards McCain as reliable on any issue dear to conservative hearts simply has not been paying attention. McCain WILL betray conservatives on immigration, taxes, SCOTUS and yes, even abortion. There is simply nothing solid about this fellow to inspire confidence.
He will also betray conservatives on Guantanamo, torture, global warming, oil exploration and energy independence, though in all these issues he’s at least been up front and honest about his betrayal.
McCain is an advocate of big government “progressive” solutions his pandering statements to the conservative base notwithstanding.
Charles Martel on May 6, 2008 at 9:21 AM
CPAC was about trying to win the primary. He didn’t know Mitt was going to drop out. It was a commitment of nothing, just a political maneuver in campaign season. It takes no more than his answer re:last years bill - but that bill wouldn’t come to my desk, Sean - so show his duplicity. He’s not reconciled with conservatives. He’s just hoping conservatives will reconcile with him on weak gruel indeed.
Spirit of 1776 on May 6, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Sounds about right.
I would bet it isn’t “The Race”.
brtex on May 6, 2008 at 9:27 AM
He wouldn’t lose a thing by avoiding the presentation to La Raza. He’s already made his bones with them. This is a deliberate thumb in the eye to those opposing open borders, and it will hurt him by creating a lot more write in votes in the general. His handlers apparently don’t mind opening old wounds. He’s way too confident at this point.
a capella on May 6, 2008 at 9:39 AM
All the more reason to persist in keeping the issue front and center. McCain refuses to deal with conservatives AS a conservative because outside of taxation and defending the military, “conservative” is AWOL in McCain. He share no point of reference, being a “cosmopolitan” man of the world, at home without borders. He has his personal space, but he’s “special” and NEEDS it. We are nothing to him but a vote that at the moment he needs but hates needing. Whereas, he loves needing the Hispanic vote and plans to use them to get the Nobel Peace Prize for accomplishing the demise of American rule of law. The Nobel Peace Prize committee would readily award McCain honors for destroying the conservative movement in the USA. But look at Europe right now, CONSERVATIVES POUNDING LEFTISTS! So IF McCain were savvy, he’d be passing conservative agenda. Without affidavit, there is NO REASON ON EARTH to think McCain will do any “better” than what he has done. McCain, RINO-AZ, has no intention of being anything except what his Freudian slip revealed when he said, “I am a LIBERAL conservative.” Judas was a liberal conservative, too.
Constitutional RULE OF LAW matters on the streets, not just in print on the internet. If it does not exist in the USA, then where?
The American Dream is to LIVE AND WORK ACCORDING TO THE LAW and enjoy the fruits of your labors. McCain, ever taking the left fork in the road, will solve our “problems” (they are not his at home, just ours) by blinking them away with amnesty. Now everyone is legal, he gets more votes, and we all live happily (not) ever after.
Why hasn’t McCain initiated a treaty with Mexico for US business interests to own property and industry there, to provide medical and educational opportunities for employees and families THERE in Mexico, to provide bi-citizenship for US citizens who cross the border to invest, work, retire, and live in Mexico? Isn’t that what the nation of Mexico and illegal aliens want from the USA north of the border?
maverick muse on May 6, 2008 at 9:47 AM
McCain has a high tolerance for pain.
Perpetual persistence from conservatives is required.
Obnoxious incessant nagging is necessary.
The election is November, merely 6 months now.
maverick muse on May 6, 2008 at 9:50 AM
Confident bordering on cocky.
whitetop on May 6, 2008 at 9:51 AM
This effort by McCain to be everything to everybody isn’t going to fly with conservatives. Your one of us or you’re not Bubah.
Ernest on May 6, 2008 at 9:53 AM
QFT
Spirit of 1776 on May 6, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Bottom line a large cross section of conservatives do not trust McCain. His outreach seems to be out of neccesity not conviction. Who really beleives he wants to secure the border and enforce the law? Exactly.
We never know what we are going to get with McCain. Hence the tight wallets.
Theworldisnotenough on May 6, 2008 at 10:11 AM
I watched that McCain speech and this CNN reporter is cherry picking his quotes to support his headline. McCain clearly stated border security first several times. He didn’t deviate from his primary stance.
Texas Gal on May 6, 2008 at 10:23 AM
I’d say that Bush and McCain (and Chertoff) were the only ones thinking two steps ahead in solving the security problem of illegal immigration. Start the fence at the same time, but the first task is an inventory control problem. Start sorting those immigrants with some potential to benefit the country from the bad immigrants who won’t. Working immigrants can stay for now, and maybe even become citizens if they’re motivated enough to do several things to prove that they’re serious, and are willing to wait several years for the privilege. The two things (fence and inventory) could’ve been started simultaneously, and should’ve been. I think history will see that immigration compromise bill (a compromise with Democrats–not Satan) as a lost opportunity to finally get on top of what will be a never-ending problem for this county–fence or no fence.
RBMN on May 6, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Border security first, “reform” (AKA slowy legalizing scofflaws by the millions) later.
profitsbeard on May 6, 2008 at 10:35 AM
most of this exists already. US citizens and companies do own property in Mexico. If the property is within 50 of border or 25 miles of the beach your deed is held in a perpetual Mexican bank trust called a fidecomiso. If the property is in the interior, you get a deed just like a Mexican citizen. There are lots of US corporations operating in Mexico. Dual citizenship is available by obtaining an FM2 visa for 5 years.
windansea on May 6, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Needs repeating. Thank you.
I agree. We need to keep the pressure on him.
davidk on May 6, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Yup, this solidifies it. I don’t care about the Presidential race this year. I’ll be happy to watch the Dems squander an opportunity to win by a landslide and potentially damage their party for the next decade or so but I’m also looking very forward to stomping McCain in the face electorily. Our party will be better off if McCain loses this year and Hillary doesn’t have the opportunity to run 4 years from now. Are there any real, honest, principled leaders left in this country? I hope to God they stand up 4 years from now to defeat a lame duck President Obama.
Zetterson on May 6, 2008 at 10:55 AM
The fact that he would even utter the words “comprehensive immigration reform” shows how dangerous he is to conservatism. He learns nothing from his many mistakes.
Valiant on May 6, 2008 at 11:14 AM
A lot of people seem to be waiting on table scraps (reaching out) from McCain during the campaign, and eventually McCain-Kennedy when/if he is POTUS. If some focused at who McCain IS and not what you want him to be, you’d save yourself a lot of stress and back and forth, day to day, minute by minute, on whether you’ll get some scraps or not. Guess what? You won’t in the end.
All the denial and hope for McCain to be something he is not, is kind of like watching a much lesser form of battered-wife syndrome in action. Hoping for some good words here and there from McCain is no different than hoping for some “reaching out” from Hillary or even Obama.
nottakingsides on May 6, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Well, today is Tuesday, May 6, primary day here in North Carolina. I had jury duty today but we were released at 10:30 am. I left the courthouse and voted. Last night I saw Sen. McCain pandering to the hispanics again, then learned of the La Raza meeting. That was it, NO holding my nose and voteing for McCain. I held my nose and voted for Ron Paul. Sorry folks, I decided last night I would Not vote in the primary for McCain.
2theright on May 6, 2008 at 11:42 AM
* Coming to CPAC
Because he cannot win without conservatives. Now he has begun to take for granted that he will get their vote.
* Committing to judicial appointments like Alito and Roberts
His democrat guided gang of 14 crumbled when they realized how bad they would look blocking Roberts and Alito.
* Committing to the Bush tax cuts
Huh? The tax cuts for the rich? Like he committed to building the fence?
* War on terror
In which the US is torturing innocent middle easterners? Like sending all the Guantanamo terrorists to your nearest jail and giving them aclu attorney’s?
I’m starting to think someone has been nipping at the “I’m special because I’m a pundit” kool aid.
peacenprosperity on May 6, 2008 at 11:54 AM
McCain-the least of three evils.
Not to be gross, but if they dug up Reagan and ran him, he could beat McCain. I’d rather vote for a great dead guy than any of the “Gang of Three” that we have.
Doug on May 6, 2008 at 11:56 AM
I’m just pointing out that the CNN reporter is skewing the speech to what appears to me to support his headline. McCain did not deviate from his position on immigration as he presented himself in the primaries. Unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of people who agree with him that voted for him over the other candidates.
My pointing out what appears to me to be an attempt to misrepresent what McCain said does not mean I agree with his position.
As far as the attempt to spin “comprehensive immigration reform” into code word for amnesty, that evidently was a bad idea since it didn’t work.
Texas Gal on May 6, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Siding with Teddy Kennedy on the McCain/Kennedy atempted Shamnesty coup and with Russ Feingold on the McCain/Feingold #uck the First Amendment/Incumbents Protection Act and going to pay homage to La Raza is not my idea of an “independent thinker”. It is my idea of something else altogether.
MB4 on May 6, 2008 at 12:24 PM
How about the context of dealing with the greedy anti-American scofflaw plantation employers? How about dealing with them?
MB4 on May 6, 2008 at 12:27 PM
I look at where we all are, I look at McCain, and all I think of is Theoden saying, “How did it come to this?”
Darksean on May 6, 2008 at 12:28 PM
How would a President Juan McCain get any conservatives appointed to the Court/Supreme Court? Presidential Court/Supreme Court nominees have to be confirmed by the Senate and the Senate is almost certain to be controlled by Democrats, probably by a bigger margin that it is now.
MB4 on May 6, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Welcome back. I missed you. All tell lies. See Obama on NAFTA, Hillary on China, etc. We have 3 to pick from, and it’s just a matter of degree to which they’ll hurt the country, in order of bad to not so bad:
Obama
Hillary
McCain
MB4 brought up what I was going to address.
It s/b:
1. Enforce the current laws on employment
2. Border security, to the extent that it’s possible. No border, of any kind, will ever be enforced, if the steak to which the wasps are attracted is still there. See #1.
3. Then conditional and stringent amnesty, preferrabley legal immigration widened, and enforced.
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Thanks. Can’t do this so often anymore. Head is exploding. Anyway, I knew what you said. I was trying to gently tweak Ed to remember to always include your disclaimer in all his McCain posts. Seems like MM did used a hammer.
JiangxiDad on May 6, 2008 at 1:04 PM
didJiangxiDad on May 6, 2008 at 1:05 PM
I’m so glad she did. Our friend Terryannonline kept arguing last night, in big La Raza thread, on the left, that they’re just a mild group now,…the usual. MM always knows how to give a great suma sumarum.
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 1:13 PM
I heard McCain talking about this on Fox and he made a point of saying we had to secure the border. I think we need to be careful here, because the media knows how to cause trouble for Republicans. They might try to create a problem with this issue, they know how to get people like Michelle Malkin upset and excited. And they will do it if you let them.
Terrye on May 6, 2008 at 2:03 PM
It is worth noting that if the Republicans lose any more demographic groups, it will be almost impossible for them to win a national election. I think the left saw the immigration fight as a win for them, because it sent so many hispanics to the Democrats. I am sure they would like to siphon off a few more if they can. Just sayin.
Terrye on May 6, 2008 at 2:16 PM
I heard McCain talking about this on Fox and he made a point of saying we had to secure the border. I think we need to be careful here, because the media knows how to cause trouble for Republicans.Terrye on May 6, 2008 at 2:03 PM
We can be careful all we want, but the fact remains that after he secures the border (laying on the galaxy-sized assumption he’d actually do it), he still wants amnesty. He’s said as much.
Darksean on May 6, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Whoops, meant quotes instead of strike through Sorry, Terrye.
Darksean on May 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Btw, re. McCain/Republicans and Hispanics–legal and illegal.
It’s true, the Rep’s ought to have something to say to Hispanic voters other than we hate Castro. (Even the Miami Cubans vote Dem these days).
But the message shouldn’t be McCain’s usual amnesty crap! The Republican message to Hispanics should be this: You may be America’s newest immigrants, and in many respects occupy the bottom rung of the ladder in terms of jobs and income. But hang in there and let the American dream work its magic on your kids, and they will grow up to be well-educated and well-off. If you come here and vote Dem, with the intention of just sucking as much as possible from the public teat, you will destroy the very system that will allow your own kids to rise. It’s worked for countless millions of Americans,of all stripes. Sacrifice for your kids’ future!
Like most people here, my own grandparents came here destitute and worked a lifetime at manual labor. With very,very little government help, they learned English and raised families. Their grandchildren are all successful and prosperous in America. Why should Hispanics today want any less for their children and grandchildren? Kill the goose that lays the golden egg at your own family’s peril. The Democrats will be more than happy to move the black people over to make room for you on their socialist plantation– after all, you’re 15% of the pop.and growing.
Do you think McCain will tell laRaza that, and add for good measure that if the hispanics go Dem,they will be complicit in creating their own Mexico right here in the US? Then the new immigrants will know for sure how their grandchildren will end up– the same as the grandparents.
America is for individuals interested in democracy and capitalism. There are plenty of other places to go if that is not your thing.
/rant off. Screw McCain.
JiangxiDad on May 6, 2008 at 3:58 PM
JiangxiDad, you’re back, and you’re on :)
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Good, maybe they can strike down that abortion violating the first amendment’s statement that “Congress shall make no law … abridging freedom of speech”.
That would be a fine start, why doesn’t he start by attacking that piece of excrement. An obvious violation of the clear text of the Constitution by anyone’s fair reading of the text.
Oh, that’s his claim to fame isn’t it? The most clearly Unconstitutional piece of legislature in the past decade is his brainchild, with his stamp (and his attempts to expand it over the past 6 years); but I’m supposed to trust him to pick “Conservative” SCOTUS members? Are we using the same definition of “Conservative”? There may be a communication breakdown here…
Yeah, and I’ll trust the guy who pickpocketed me last week to watch my house while I’m on vacation too.
gekkobear on May 7, 2008 at 12:49 AM