Tomorrow’s focus: North Carolina Update: AOL Hot Seat Poll added
posted at 8:20 am on May 5, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The latest New York Times and CBS poll came to the same conclusion that Rasmussen and others have reached — that Barack Obama failed to convince a majority of his sincerity in dumping Jeremiah Wright. Half of the 601 respondents believe that Obama acted out of political expediency and not conviction when denouncing Wright last week for his lunatic statements on HIV, al-Qaeda, and organic neural differences between white and black brains:
A majority of American voters say that the furor over the relationship between Senator Barack Obama and his former pastor has not affected their opinion of Mr. Obama, but a substantial number say that it could influence voters this fall should he be the Democratic presidential nominee, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll. …
The poll, conducted after Mr. Obama held a news conference on Tuesday in which he renounced his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., for making incendiary comments, found that most Americans said they approved of the way Mr. Obama had responded to the episode and considered his criticism of Mr. Wright appropriate.
But nearly half of the voters surveyed, and a substantial part of the Democrats, said Mr. Obama had acted mainly because he thought it would help him politically, rather than because he had serious disagreements with his former pastor. The broader effect of the controversy on Mr. Obama’s candidacy among Democratic primary voters was less clear in the poll, but enough of them expressed qualms about Mr. Obama’s relationship with Mr. Wright to suggest it could sway a relatively small but potentially important group of voters in the remaining primaries.
Forget the cross-party results. The sample is just as bad as it ever is with the NYT/CBS poll. The Times reports that Obama and Clinton enjoy strong leads against John McCain, but it’s easy to reach that conclusion when the sample includes twice as many Democrats as Republicans. The sample comprises 283 Democrats, 148 Republicans, and 170 registered independents. If Obama didn’t have a lead with that kind of sampling, the DNC could skip the period after the convention.
National polls mean nothing at the moment; the focus is Indiana and North Carolina. Unlike the last few contests, Tuesday’s races have pressure on both Democratic candidates to win states. Hillary Clinton has to win Indiana, where white, working-class voters comprise the vast majority of the Democratic Party. She has to show that she can keep winning in order to drown out the demands from other Democrats that she concede to Barack Obama.
For the first time in probably two months, Obama faces a make-or-break moment, this time in North Carolina. He has gone weeks without a victory, but even more problematic, he has simply performed poorly through a number of stumbles and gaffes. He looked tentative and vacillating in dealing with the outrageous comments made by Jeremiah Wright, while at the same time insulting Midwestern voters for supposedly clinging to guns, religion, and bigotry instead of big government.
North Carolina has a large base of African-American voters, and Obama was expected to beat Hillary by a wide margin, but his lead has all but disappeared. If he loses North Carolina, the party elders that will cast the deciding vote on his nomination may start believing that the rookie doesn’t have the talent yet to play in the big leagues. If he can’t win in North Carolina in a Democratic primary, where can he win in a general election contest?
If Obama wins a narrow victory in North Carolina, that may still be enough for Hillary to claim momentum. At some point, the Democratic superdelegates have to acknowledge that Obama may have been proven a liability for the general election. Their problem is that Hillary may not be any better.
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Obama will win NC tomorrow. Regarding the polls showing Obama losing ground in NC, I would discount them for a couple of reasons. We have early voting here in NC and Obama was able to get a lot of people to vote before his latest Wright explosion. Also, news stories in the Raleigh area covering the end of the early voting showed huge lines and waits of well over an hour. Each of the local Raleigh TV stations showed these lines and they were in predominantly African-American neighborhoods and the lines reflected that demographic. Given Obama’s overwhelming success with them, I would say he is going to take NC going away.
The Opinionator on May 5, 2008 at 8:27 AM
This guy Hussein Banana O’Bamba wearing a cowboy hat is like calling Bill Clinton “The First Black president.”
Or he’s more like saying that Black people love Ice Hockey, NASCAR.
What a fake!
Indy Conservative on May 5, 2008 at 8:28 AM
Did I mention that Black people love also Tennis and Country Music?
Oh, and Cowboy Movies!
Indy Conservative on May 5, 2008 at 8:29 AM
The Opinionator on May 5, 2008 at 8:27 AM
Yeah, but when they vote again this Tuesday, they’ll be voting for Hillary!
/sarc
dish on May 5, 2008 at 9:24 AM
I don’t know about that.
The main thing the GOP always had going with Hillary was that the right hated her so completely.
Is that true anymore?
Look at all the popcorn eating Chaosers around here who are rooting her on even as they claim they’ll hold their noses and vote for ” Juan McShamnesty” or not vote for him at all. There obviously isn’t a lot of passion in the base for McCain, and likewise, a lot of the passion against Hillary has drained away.
If Hillary wins NC, my money says the Dems nominate her, and she wins in November.
Not that I want it. But that’s how I’d wager.
Typhoon on May 5, 2008 at 9:26 AM
I don’t care who wins, I just want this battle to wage on…
right2bright on May 5, 2008 at 9:32 AM
I see you like to stereotype. Know any funny racial jokes?
a capella on May 5, 2008 at 9:34 AM
Yep. One of the downsides of Operation Chaos may be the dulling of the anti-Hillary movement.
a capella on May 5, 2008 at 9:39 AM
Y’all just wait a bit. If Hillary gets the nomination, she will start treating McCain and Republicans the way she always has. Then, you’ll remember why you despised her in the first place. Also, when the right siders come out of their current Hillary swoon, the AA community is gone as well, because she will have “stolen” the nomination from their guy.
Buford Gooch on May 5, 2008 at 9:45 AM
That’s ridiculous. I think media bias is sometimes the unintentional result of most of the journalists being liberal, but this kind of stuff is intentionally deceptive. An 11% lead with a sample like that is not good news for Obama. That’s a break-even at best.
forest on May 5, 2008 at 10:26 AM
I hope you are right.
I WANT TO BELIEVE.
a capella on May 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM
If Hillary does well tomorrow, this sets up a huge fight over the Florida and Michigan delegates.
That’s the chaos.
Pythagoras on May 5, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Y’know, if she does pull this thing off, think what it will do to Mark Penn’s consulting fee structure. I know he’s ostensibly been demoted, but still,…
a capella on May 5, 2008 at 10:43 AM
One of the biggest problems with McCain’s up coming POUTS run is that is has already stated clearly to his opponents about what he is and is not willing to do in a campaign against either of them.
Both Dem candidates don’t suffer from that same tactical limitation. They will do whatever it takes and have the backers (soros – media) to back their plays. No limit.
A McCain win will be depended on a fearless and convincing VP to say and do what he won’t.
Egfrow on May 5, 2008 at 10:49 AM
With a little luck this will drag on until the convention in Denver.
TooTall on May 5, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Well, I would rather have Hillary than Obamamaniac-a-whack, because it’s very possible that McCain will wage a Bob Dole weak campaign, and while it’ll be painful to have the Clinton’s back in the White House, she’s at least shown that she will still pander to Republicans to get what she thinks is politically best for her. Obama will immediately try to do whatever Soros wants, and that’s really really bad, evil even.
kirkill on May 5, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Dish,
That may be the case but Obama is strong with the black vote in NC as well as the college students in the traiangle. He wins NC easily and I would not be surprised if he wins by double digits.
The Opinionator on May 5, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Obama leads in pledged delegates by a measly 4.05%
however with the way that delegates are distributed by the Democrats thats hard to makeup, unless they add Florida and Michigan..
Chakra Hammer on May 5, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Hey ED, I heard you on the BEEB the other night. HotAir is really moving up. The host laughed at your rookie comment but I thought it was great.
knat on May 5, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Anything that comes from the NY Times should be taken with a large grain of salt. First of all, the NY Times is obsessed with defeating John McCain. The Times has assigned four reporters to full time investigating of John McCain. The team at the Times, led by James Ruttenberg, has no other assignments. We are seeing an example of Parkinson’s law at work. Work fills up the time that an employee is given to do it. So even though there is no grand scandal involving McCain, Mr. Ruttenbeg and his three colleagues keep digging. First, they failed to prove that McCain was having an affair. Then they charged that McCain rigged the sale of federal lands to a wealthy supporter. However, there was one big problem with this story: The guy couldn’t stand McCain and said McCain was too squaky clean and self righteous to do him any good. So now the Times has another McCain “scandal”. The Times editorial board has demanded that McCain release to the NY Times editorial board his health records going back for decades. The Times said that McCain must hand over his medical records to an NY Times reporter named Lawrence Altman. The arrogance is monumental. So given this background, there is no reason to accept a NY Times poll as being worth a can of beans. Jayson Blair was no aberration at the Times.
Larraby on May 5, 2008 at 1:58 PM
I’m not so sure about that. I was up in Cary on Saturday and while there was a substantial wait for early voting, most of the folks in line there looked pretty European to me – AND a lot of them were sporting Hillary buttons/badges. I think what you were seeing on TV was more a projection of the stations’ wishful thinking than objective reporting.
And down here near Fayetteville, early voting’s been pretty evenly divided between the Obamanites and Hill’s Hags.
However it goes tomorrow, I won’t be surprised. Only wish I’d taken part in Operation Chaos, but since we have a closed primary, I’m stuck with a Republican ballot.
Lurking Vet on May 5, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Operation Chaos is working. Let them slug it out!
mariloubaker on May 5, 2008 at 10:04 PM
My choices tomorrow are McCain, Keyes, Huckabee, and Ron Paul! Any advice?
windbag on May 5, 2008 at 11:12 PM
KEYES ‘08!
Rosmerta on May 5, 2008 at 11:31 PM
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