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Pakistan’s peace with terrorists hits another snag: shari’a

posted at 9:50 am on May 5, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The leaders of the new Pakistani government insist that only peaceful negotiations will end the strife with radical Islamists in the frontier areas of western Pakistan. The Taliban has other ideas about peace and coexistence; they don’t like them. A leading Taliban military commander has issued a threat to men who shave their beards, warning of violent consequences:

A Pakistani Taliban leader has warned local tribesmen to grow beards within the next two months in accordance with Islamic teachings or face harsh punishment, residents said Monday.

The threat came amid an apparent increase in incidents of militants trying to enforce Islamic Sharia law in Pakistan’s tribal belt bordering Afghanistan, where the new government is trying to make peace with hardliners.

“Men must grow beards and stop shaving within the next two months,” residents quoted senior Taliban commander Maulvi Faqir Mohammad as telling dozens of people at a mosque in Khar, the main town in Bajaur tribal district.

Beards were mandatory under the harsh Taliban regime which ruled Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001 as part of a strict morality code that also made women wear the all-encompassing burka and outlawed music and other entertainment.

“It is un-Islamic to shave beards. Harsh punishments will be awarded to all violators,” added Mohammad, the central vice chief of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (Pakistan Taliban Movement) and also a Muslim cleric.

Not surprisingly, the Taliban and its leaders feel freer to issue — and enforce — such strictures in the area that Pakistan has all but conceded to them. Nor has it bought any peace for the residents of Waziristan and NWFP. AFP reports that “activities” against hair salons and music stores have increased since the military has stopped its operations against the Taliban.

Sovereignty requires a government to exercise its authority over that of militias and renegades. The abdication of those responsibilities in Waziristan and NWFP calls into question whether these territories can actual be considered Pakistani. That was one of the underlying principles of the Bush Doctrine after 9/11, and why Pervez Musharraf always understood that he had to at least give some effort in fighting the Taliban and al-Qaeda in these regions. Otherwise, the US could consider Pakistan as having withdrawn from the area and our hot-pursuit needs would then take precedence.

The new Pakistani government has obviously not learned much of the lessons of appeasement since the 1930s. If they continue to refuse to recognize the danger of their policy and allow these lunatics loose in the frontier regions, the US has to make clear that we do not consider ourselves bound by that decision.


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Got just one word for the Pakis: DU-HUH!

Miss_Anthrope on May 5, 2008 at 9:54 AM

The leaders of the new Pakistani government insist that only peaceful negotiations will end the strife with radical Islamists in the frontier areas of western Pakistan.

What do these Paki-Chamberlains think they’ll get in return? A promise that the talibs will stop trying to take over the country? Ha! Anybody for a shot of Taqqiya?

Tony737 on May 5, 2008 at 10:02 AM

Miss A., you’d think if ANYBODY understood the minds of these talibanimals it’d be the Pakis, but NNNNOOOOOOOOooooo!

Tony737 on May 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM

The threat came amid an apparent increase in incidents of militants trying to enforce Islamic Sharia law in Pakistan’s tribal belt bordering Afghanistan, where the new government is trying to make peace with hardliners.

Ok, somebody please tell me again why they call this the “Federally Administered tribal Area”?

Why don’t they just let the taliban have a section of Waziristan, change the name to Talibanistan, let them all move in and settle there and then we just bomb it back … ooops, I mean forward into the Stone Age?

Tony737 on May 5, 2008 at 10:09 AM

If Pakistan doesn’t recognize these provinces as Pakistan anymore why should we?

Sefton on May 5, 2008 at 10:17 AM

Two words for Pakistan:

SPECIAL FORCES.

Virus-X on May 5, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Beards they can grow.

Brains are another thing.

Islam: the Alzheimer’s of religions.

profitsbeard on May 5, 2008 at 10:37 AM

It is un-Islamic to shave beards

These bastards shave their beards when they want to strike Western targets and kill innocent people; but na, that’s not un-Islamic.

Richard Romano on May 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Two words for Pakistan: SPECIAL FORCES.

Virus-X on May 5, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Nah. Fence it off and stay on the outside. Isolate them, let them rot and kill each other. Lob nasty, murderous explosive in there from time to time. Carpet bomb the Iran – Pakistan border and make it unpassable by road.

They want the 7th century – give it to them.

Jaibones on May 5, 2008 at 10:49 AM

The leaders of the new Pakistani government insist that only peaceful negotiations will end the strife with radical Islamists in the frontier areas of western Pakistan.

This is a fallacy. The only thing extremists recognize is force. You need to kick them in the teeth until they apologize.

TooTall on May 5, 2008 at 10:53 AM

We will help them trim their beards, we understand the importance of such a thing.
First place your head in this, to help us “trim”…

right2bright on May 5, 2008 at 11:29 AM

TooTall on May 5, 2008 at 10:53 AM

You aim too high, sir.

OldEnglish on May 5, 2008 at 11:29 AM

The new Pakistani government has obviously not learned much of the lessons of appeasement since the 1930s.

In Pittsburgh, the wise elders of the City Council decided that they were going to combat graffiti vandalism, by declaring a wall along a bike path a legal place to do graffiti. New incidents of graffiti haven’t gone down since this bold strategy was taken. It’s fair to say that the wise elders of the Pittsburgh City Council learned nothing relevent to the situation of Pakistan.

When Democrats taunt me with the “Republican War on Science”–which is effective since I agree with what they have to say–I reply with the “Democratic War on Economics and History”. I point out that minimum wage laws and captial gains tax are no less insane relative to economics than Creationism is to biology. And then I mention Democrats, appeasement, and all of recorded human history. I encourage other people to use the term “Democratic War on Economics and History”. I’ve found it quite effective in making my point.

thuja on May 5, 2008 at 11:48 AM

A Pakistani Taliban leader has warned local tribesmen to grow beards within the next two months in accordance with Islamic teachings or face harsh punishment, residents said Monday.

I know the tribal areas of Pakistan are not Iraq, but could the same thing happen there as in the Sunni triangle? Meaning, the more restrictive, vindictive, and barbaric the Islamists become, the easier it is to turn the local populace against them? A kind of “darkest before dawn” condition that leads to the eventual throwing off of the yoke of these barbarians? Anyone with some knowledge on the tribal areas wanna sort me out on this?

VolMagic on May 5, 2008 at 12:29 PM

The new Pakistani government has obviously not learned much of the lessons of appeasement since the 1930s. If they continue to refuse to recognize the danger of their policy and allow these lunatics loose in the frontier regions, the

The new Pakistani government has one of the parties (Bhutto’s PPP) that created the Taliban in the first place, and another party that is allied to the idea of Islamization of the country. Their problem is not how to deal with the Taliban – their problem is how to deal with the US and avoid giving the impression of them being pro Jihad while being pro Jihad.

US has to make clear that we do not consider ourselves bound by that decision.

Such a decision should have been made in October 2001, when everyone, including Pakistan themselves, expected serious repercussions for 9/11. Allowing Pakistan to pretend to switch sides was a big mistake.

infidelpride on May 5, 2008 at 12:53 PM

If Pakistan doesn’t have the self-respect to crush these people they’re not going to last very long. Since the different fundamentalist movements seldom agree enough to unite in any sense that would resemble a government that probably means that Pakistan will become a stateless region…or have civil war until someone is strong enough to control the state. What concerns me most is that we may be watching Pakistan go through what we should expect to happen here sometime soon.

/doomsaying

blankminde on May 5, 2008 at 1:02 PM

The new Pakistani government has obviously not learned much of the lessons of appeasement since the 1930s. If they continue to refuse to recognize the danger of their policy and allow these lunatics loose in the frontier regions, the US has to make clear that we do not consider ourselves bound by that decision.

I don’t think that the U.S. has exactly set the best example in the world.

There are all those U.S.-fostered constitutions that enshrine Sharia law [Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestinian Authority] — just the sort of ideological concession our forebears would never have made.
- Diana West

MB4 on May 5, 2008 at 1:13 PM

Two words for Pakistan:

SPECIAL FORCES.

Virus-X on May 5, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Got two bettah words for ya:

Nucular weapons.

Miss_Anthrope on May 5, 2008 at 1:18 PM

Islam: the Alzheimer’s of religions.

profitsbeard on May 5, 2008 at 10:37 AM

Or maybe –

Islam: the Cancer of illnesses.

MB4 on May 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Pakistani PM: “O.k. guys, you can have one more city and village, but the last square mile of the country is ours…………Oh, o.k…….we can share that part-YOU can run it for us.”

ThePrez on May 5, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Trying to reason with a fanatic is an exercise in futility.

mojo on May 5, 2008 at 3:17 PM

I know the tribal areas of Pakistan are not Iraq, but could the same thing happen there as in the Sunni triangle? Meaning, the more restrictive, vindictive, and barbaric the Islamists become, the easier it is to turn the local populace against them? A kind of “darkest before dawn” condition that leads to the eventual throwing off of the yoke of these barbarians?

VolMagic on May 5, 2008 at 12:29 PM

The problem with this is that, in Iraq, the Sunnis had someone else to turn to: the US Military. In the Pak Frontier, they have no such alternative, not even the Pak Gov’t. Besides, beards and music are one thing, but AQI was chopping heads and hands.

Kafir on May 5, 2008 at 3:51 PM

The sooner that the Taliban consolidates its power in the Tribal areas the sooner we can target them from the air and via special ops without running it through Pakistan.

Tantor on May 5, 2008 at 4:49 PM

This is a fallacy. The only thing extremists recognize is force. You need to kick them in the teeth until they apologize KEILL them.

TooTall on May 5, 2008 at 10:53 AM

simple fix

jerrytbg on May 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM

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