Good news: McCain to attend La Raza’s annual conference
posted at 3:45 pm on May 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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An election-year pander aimed at shoring up the Latino vote by grudgingly patronizing Open Borders HQ? Why, no: As the boss reminds us, Maverick and the group that charmingly describes itself as “The Race” are old friends with plenty of allies and enemies in common. Can he outdo Obama’s mega-pander from last year? If Kos is right about Texas being in play, the sky’s the limit!
Go read Michelle’s post on this, as needless to say McCain’s feet will have to be held to the fire on this subject regularly to keep him from indulging his natural, jerky pro-amnesty tendencies.
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But I thought McCain was a conservative, why should anyone have to make the case if THAT were true? Oh! That’s right! McCain is a liberal political traitor who was willing to bolt the party in 2001 and toyed with the idea of joining John Kerry in 2004. He’s worked against the confirmation of qualified CONSERVATIVE jurists to pander to Democrats and built a junta of 14 like-minded traitors to thwart the Democratic process.
Lot’s of reasons to vote against the man and not a single solid reason why I should vote for McCain over one of the other Democrats running this year.
highhopes on May 6, 2008 at 9:05 AM
I’m done with McCain. I will void at least one of the RACE votes he wants so bad. He gained one vote from his ass-kissing, and lost one vote from me. Good job McFly!
Masscon on May 6, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Wait…did this discussion really turn into calling HAers anti-mexican and anti-immigrant?
Holy. F’ing. Christ.
MadisonConservative on May 6, 2008 at 9:42 AM
Every time I get the guts to throw my conservative ideals under the bus and vote for McCain I catch a clip of him somewhere saying something that makes me want to barf. Two days ago it was a clip of him lamenting about illegals being Gods children and needing legal standing in this country. Today it is him attending a La Raza meeting.
This jerk evidently doesn’t care about American drywallers, brick layers, painters, framers, roofers, landscapers (the list goes on) that are loosing their jobs every day to illegals who will work for half the pay while living in their (three families to a house) residences and driving with no insurance while fathering litters of children who will (unbelievably) automatically become US citizens to inundate our already suffering school and welfare system.
Evidently the idea is that because these people are in need in their own failing country, middle America (not the politicians) are supposed to give up a portion of their well being to share with the illegal invaders.
This has nothing to do with Race it has everything to do with a Mexico bail-out until the North American Union can become reality and presidential politics. Forget it McCain. I for one will sit out this election before submitting to your brand of crap.
Ernest on May 6, 2008 at 9:47 AM
McCain sucks up to the organization that epitomizes lawlessness at the border and the dissolution of our culture.
Ed: You know who that helps? McCain.
spmat on May 6, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Yes, it did. By the usual suspects.
Redhead Infidel on May 6, 2008 at 10:12 AM
McCain still supports comprehensive immigration reform over border enforcement. See Ed’s post across the page.
The McCain supporters posting here are open-borders zealots for the most part.
Valiant on May 6, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Excuse me. I hope you are not talking about me. Never once did I accuse anyone of being anti-Mexican or anti-immigrant. I’ve actually have hold my tongue (or keyboard) at some of the nonsense being thrown at me.
terryannonline on May 6, 2008 at 10:41 AM
When you defend a pro-Aztlan organization, you should expect to have a bit of friction with anti-Aztlan people.
MadisonConservative on May 6, 2008 at 10:43 AM
I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN.
Zetterson on May 6, 2008 at 10:44 AM
The McCain aplogists here are liars. Like McCain they refuse to honestly state their position of being for open-borders, no-questions-asked amnesty, and wholesale no-penalty citizenship to criminals who don’t respect our laws, culture, or society.
I, for one, will be interested to see how McCain spews his usual propoganda on this issue without enraging the GOP base.
highhopes on May 6, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Ann Coulter is a prophet. I am not convinced McCain would be better for this country than Hillary. In fact I’m starting to warm up to her….
elraphbo on May 6, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Those three words should probably not be used in the same sentence. Although I get your drift.
PappaMac on May 6, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Actually, no I wasn’t. I was thinking of the people who first injected race into this thread. It is a typical Liberal tactic to accuse anyone who is against open borders as RACIST, and that same tactic is deployed by McCain supporters on this issue (like after like, after all). It is tiresome and wholly predictable, because the same people can be counted on to throw that s*it into the ring every. single. time.
As for you, I don’t think you actually consider us racist. I could be wrong, of course, but that’s what I think for now.
Redhead Infidel on May 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Electo McCain y obtener los mejores jueces de habla hispana.
/sarc
Annar on May 6, 2008 at 11:08 AM
I’m not piling on terryann here, but she wanted to know what was so bad about The Race? Michelle just posted a GREAT top 10 list complete with links:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/06/top-10-reasons-mccain-should-repudiate-the-national-council-of-la-raza/
Darksean on May 6, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Uh, please oh PLEASE correct me if I’m wrong, but one of the stated purposes of The Race is the return of territories sovereign to the United States of America (repeat sovereign American territory) in the SW United States to sovereign control of Mexico. In many legal quarters, that constitutes treason.
Wouldn’t it be nice if Mac were to go to La Raza and say “Become citizens according to the law that I WILL enforce immediately upon taking the oath of office of President of the United States. Thank you!” (McCain summarily exits stage at this point).
I believe that would probably get the attention of the Republican base.
Amendment X on May 6, 2008 at 11:50 AM
When McCain said he had learned his lesson on Amnesty, what he meant was that he needs to approach total amnesty from a different direction so that he can now sneak it past the stupid electorate. IMHO.
TimothyJ on May 6, 2008 at 11:51 AM
That’s what pro-Aztlan people are. If you want confirmation, google “La Raza” and “Aztlan” together. It’s like googling Aryan Nations with KKK. Sure, they’re not DIRECTLY related, but give me a break.
MadisonConservative on May 6, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Way to go John…I mean, Juan.
The illegal alien, anti-American activist/terrorist vote should make up for the conservative base he won’t get back.
Whatever happens, he’s on the SPP/NAFTA gravy train; he earned it already.
Christine on May 6, 2008 at 12:16 PM
It’s hard to inflate a giant :) Plus, I’m not scared easily. I’m like an oak tree, a nut who stood its ground.
p.s. Darksean beat me to it - I was going to share those 10 MM items with Terryann too.
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 12:31 PM
I got an email today from Immigration Watchdog that had a picture of California with an uzi and “Aztlan” on it with the warning: “Whites get out! (Latinos are ‘white’, but logic is not a strong suit for these people.)
And below: “THIS IS ARE LAND”. That mis-spelling wasn’t covered by the Huffpo handiwipe, Nico Pitney. I’m shocked.
Christine on May 6, 2008 at 12:32 PM
This makes sense. Its the same reason Obama isn’t campaigning in African-American neighborhoods.
You don’t have to work your base, they’re going to go for you regardless. So you ignore those you can take for granted, and try to make inroads elsewhere.
And really, McCain has done enough to p*** me off that I wouldn’t have voted for him regardless (and decided that in ‘03) so its not like he just lost me now.
There are three groups of Conservatives.
1) Those that (by now) won’t support McCain regardless of what he does.
2) Those that will defend and support McCain even if he starts killing babies instead of kissing them.
3) Those that will get annoyed, but will still vote for him. (the “suck it up” crowd)
Really, he doesn’t lose much of anything by doing this, and more things like this.
His meetings with CAIR, MECHa, and the Black Panthers still to come.
gekkobear on May 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM
You forgot:
4) Would rather see a President Obama for the next 8 years for all sorts of meaningless idiocy that sounds good in their heads but screws all of the rest of the conservatives in America for their own selfish reasons.
wise_man on May 6, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Hey look, it’s a member of Conservative group 2!
MadisonConservative on May 6, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Hey look! It’s a member of group 4!!
wise_man on May 6, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Actually, it’s one. It has nothing to do with Obama, despite your position of voting out of fear of Obama. I’m not voting for John McCain for the simple fact that there is barely anything I agree with him on, and there are serious issues I disagree with him on. I’m also not voting for him because I do not want to support the GOP moving to the left for the sake of staying in office.
MadisonConservative on May 6, 2008 at 1:26 PM
I know it was a waste of time, but I went to Juan’s website and registered my opinion about this in the little comment box.
I am really having a hard time seeing why I should vote for him. I don’t want the Republican party to think they can offer up liberals and still get my vote. How is a Democrat who is a Republican any better than a Democrat who is a Democrat?
I think I’ll end up voting third party, or simply not voting for president at all. The truth is, we don’t elect the president anyway. The electoral college does.
America was nice while it lasted.
deewhybee on May 6, 2008 at 1:38 PM
No, it’s 4.
Cause that’s the result. President Obama. Like that? Then might as well vote for him, because that’s what’s going to happen as a result.
Meanwhile, I’m going to make my vote count, and vote for an “R”, and do everything I can to ensure that a “D” does not win. Because on November 2nd, there are only two choices. Even Ross Perot, the idiot ‘vote against me because you hate poppy bush’ got Bill Clinton elected. Some people are capable of learning from the past mistakes of American history.
Some people.
wise_man on May 6, 2008 at 1:49 PM
I did the same. Even though McCain doesn’t care about earning the conservative vote, I wasted only a moment of my time telling
himhis volunteer flunkies my position.Redhead Infidel on May 6, 2008 at 1:55 PM
As a conservative friend said, way back when the endless primaries began,
“The war trumps everything.”
Even illegal immigration.
President Bush wanted amnesty, but the conservative bulwark held and stopped it. President McCain will face the same wall—unless he builds one first.
But the war trumps everything. You don’t have to like John McCain or his policies, but you have to stop the Democrats from winning the White House.
MrLynn on May 6, 2008 at 1:58 PM
You know, your constant suggestion of voting for Obama makes me very suspicious of your motives.
There are many effects of a decision. You cannot claim that one effect drove the decision, no matter how filled with fear you are of that effect. It’s the equivalent of saying “If you don’t do this, the terrorists win.”
MadisonConservative on May 6, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Check the numbers here -
40% of Hispanics want the immigration laws enforced.
Strict law enforcement is a WINNING national issue!
fred5678 on May 6, 2008 at 2:22 PM
No. President McCain..like that even less.
Elect Obama/Hillary: Bad policies that will do damage to the country; united minority GOP more likely to oppose damaging policies.
Elect McCain: Bad Policies that will damage the country; Democrats will vote with him; some Republicans, not wanting to vote against a GOP President will vote with him. Bad Policies get passed (Global Warming legislation, Immigration, ect)
You can scare monger all you want, wizzman. My business has been destroyed by high gas prices; nothing much scares me anymore because I don’t have anything left. McCAin is not the lesser of the evils. His policies are just as capable of irreparably changing this country for the worse as either Hillary or Obama’s are. The only difference is the GOP remaining in the Congress will be more likely to slow down bad legislation from a Democrat than a Republican. McCain is actively courting the Democrat base. He is attacking the GOP more than the Democrats; what do you think that signals in his intentions? He is going to be depending on them to pass his legislation, and reelect him. We’re screwed no matter what. But I’ll be d*mned if I help that backstabbing old weasel in any manner whatsoever. Chant your mantra, wizzman: John McCain is the most conservative conservative to ever conservate in the conservatory. Clap those flippers: Vote the R! Arr, ARR ARR!
austinnelly on May 6, 2008 at 2:32 PM
The larger liberal senate will dissolve the ‘gang of 14′. Beware. Don’t put the congress, senate, presidency and SCOTUS in the hands of ultra liberal ninnies. Think beyond your own egos and stubbornness. There is a country and a world out there.
There is no Reagan waiting behind a curtain. It is nearly impossible to revert socialism. These are perilous times.
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Also, don’t count on the minority in the congress, both branches, to do anything. They’re a bunch of eunichs.
Entelechy on May 6, 2008 at 2:38 PM
“No. President McCain..like that even less.”
Yup. There you have it. McCain would be worse than Obama. Pathetic.
Knock yourselves out.
No, really.
wise_man on May 6, 2008 at 3:03 PM
And here I thought that the only internet trolls were liberals.
wise_man on May 6, 2008 at 3:06 PM
I don’t think a troll is what you think it is.
Considering that the guys you are calling trolls are regulars here and most-definitely on-topic your insult is meaningless. You might want to think of a more apropos epithet, ‘cuz “troll” ain’t it.
Redhead Infidel on May 6, 2008 at 3:15 PM
what “guys” is that? I quoted a man who mocked my name. And my crime? Mentioning that if groups of republicans don’t vote for a republican that - *GASP!* we are going to have a democrat president. I don’t want to see a democrat president. I point out the logical outcome of their and others like them will have. I have to live in this country too, and I don’t want 4 or 8 years of a democrat president.
This strange clouded vision to not see the logical outcome of their logic is meet with name calling.
That is the behavior of a troll.
I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the democrats are engaged in their own stealthier version of operation chaos against us. Their goal: get a democrat elected. How can any republican in their right mind claim that a president Obama would be better than a president McCain.
It’s idiotic.
wise_man on May 6, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Bulls**t. You claimed that anyone who didn’t vote for McCain wanted Obama for president, and blamed them for all the world’s woes and future woes based on the seventh layer of hell you claim Obama will bring upon the earth.
MadisonConservative on May 6, 2008 at 3:30 PM
So everyone here who doesn’t believe what you believe is a “troll”? Sorry, I don’t buy it.
You know, in real life, you’re eventually gonna get a Dem president - it’s the nature of the political cycle. And you’ll have to live in this country for 4 or 8 years of a Dem administration. How on earth are you going to deal?
Redhead Infidel on May 6, 2008 at 3:35 PM
That’s true, wiseman. You did rather vehemently and unequivically state that. It’s not like you benignly “mentioned” anything.
Redhead Infidel on May 6, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Entropy posted this link over at Ace’s. It’s a pretty good depiction of how there’s virtually no difference between the three candidates’ positions on border security.
Redhead Infidel on May 6, 2008 at 3:47 PM
This fries me!
An effective way to “hold his feet to the fire” is to throw Lindsey Grahamnesty overboard in SC - he’s up for re-election.
As an SC resident I’ll do everything in my power to see that happen. Then we’ll see how chummy with “The Race”-baiters McCain is!
The Ritz on May 6, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Gee, hob-nobbing with a racist, anti-Semitic organization like La Raza sure secures my Republican vote.
What a political twat that old bastard is..
TexasJew on May 6, 2008 at 7:53 PM
McCain is headed for defeat in November.
He is going to get his ass kicked by whoever is heading up the dem ticket.
Dave R. on May 6, 2008 at 8:45 PM
I’ve been voting since Ronald Reagan and a political junkie long before that. This is the first time I recall that the GOP nominee has yet to solidify his own base. GHW Bush and Bob Dole were not loved but the Republican base supported them despite misgivings. I don’t get that sense this year as McCain seems intent on pissing off all but the most liberal of liberal Republicans in an effort to pander to Democrats. I think McCain is running for President with the wrong letter behind his name and I am beginning to conclude it will lead to our nation’s first sorta black President.
highhopes on May 6, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Gram: “No group owns being an American”–what??—American citizens own being an Americans you dork!! Yeah, lets let get them “right with the law” by ENFORCING THE LAW. And it’s clear that McCain still doesn’t get it. He is a BOLD FACE LIAR. His true colors show up again. He deserves to lose for trying to be democrat-lite. He is nothing but a democan, just a democrat with an (R) after his name. What happened to the Republican party and why am I still a member? I really don’t care who wins this election anymore. It’s clear we are screwed.
Dollayo on May 6, 2008 at 10:17 PM
I’m very tempted to fill out my entire ballot EXCEPT voting for POTUS…wish I could write in “None Of The Above” even more!
Vntnrse on May 6, 2008 at 10:26 PM
My vote is irrelevant..its just one measly vote.
But, for what its worth, I have always voted for the republican for president…primarily because the democrat has always been SO friggin bad.
Well, I aint doing it this time. I will vote for republicans for congress, etc. but I wont be voting for anybody for president.
This country needs a political enema. The horrid Jimmy Carter provided it in the late 70’s. The equally horrid Obama will provide it for the next four years.
Its cool…I got a bunch of money in the bank. I can handle a recession and a period of socialism.
Roger Waters on May 7, 2008 at 2:20 AM
It’s funny - all the McCain supporters have as arguments are either fearmongering or brute force. Logic is definitely not on their side. McCain is clearly a liberal - so all arguments have to start with, “Well yeah, he’s an arrogant liberal who kicks his own base in the nuts, but I want you to overlook that for a minute…”
fossten on May 7, 2008 at 12:09 PM
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