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Good news: McCain to attend La Raza’s annual conference

posted at 3:45 pm on May 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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An election-year pander aimed at shoring up the Latino vote by grudgingly patronizing Open Borders HQ? Why, no: As the boss reminds us, Maverick and the group that charmingly describes itself as “The Race” are old friends with plenty of allies and enemies in common. Can he outdo Obama’s mega-pander from last year? If Kos is right about Texas being in play, the sky’s the limit!

Go read Michelle’s post on this, as needless to say McCain’s feet will have to be held to the fire on this subject regularly to keep him from indulging his natural, jerky pro-amnesty tendencies.


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I wonder what the reaction to this will be………GO!

ThePrez on May 5, 2008 at 3:48 PM

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darwin on May 5, 2008 at 3:48 PM

Stupid.

I just have to keep thinking to myself, “He sucks, but the others are worse. He sucks, but the others are worse.”

amerpundit on May 5, 2008 at 3:48 PM

Bad move on his part. A thumb in the eye to anti-amnesty folks is not a good idea.

a capella on May 5, 2008 at 3:49 PM

Ay Carrumba! I thought Johnny boy learned his lesson!

bloggless on May 5, 2008 at 3:50 PM

Look at McCain, reaching out to the right once again. Don’t you just love how he is pulling the Republicans together?

PappaMac on May 5, 2008 at 3:50 PM

Sick, Sick, Sick.

Pandering to cheating, law breaking criminals.

How stupid can you get?

saiga on May 5, 2008 at 3:55 PM

How did we get stuck with this man?

Maxx on May 5, 2008 at 3:55 PM

We’re going to tell the bigots to shut up!!!

VolMagic on May 5, 2008 at 3:55 PM

si se puede, si se puede!

j0 on May 5, 2008 at 3:57 PM

Embarrassment.

WisCon on May 5, 2008 at 3:58 PM

That cuts it, I will not vote in this general.

Geronimo on May 5, 2008 at 3:59 PM

If McCain is lucky the Democratic fanatics within La Raza was arrange a welcome about like what the Senator received last month during his speech to mark the 40th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.’s assassination. It makes it a lot easier not to pander when the other side is booing from the moment you step on stage, which automatically gives you the high ground among the voters watching on TV.

jon1979 on May 5, 2008 at 4:00 PM

…needless to say McCain’s feet will have to be held to the fire on this subject…

posted at 3:45 pm on May 5, 2008 by Allahpundit

How do you propose we do that?

I propose that NC Republican Primary voters vote for the candidate who committed in writing to complete construction of fences on both borders by July 1, 2010.

That candidate, of course, is Mike Huckabee.

I submit that the only way to hold McCain’s feet to the fire is to ensure that he doesn’t win another primary until he makes a similar commitment.

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:02 PM

John McCain, I have defended you at every turn. But going to the La Raza convention is going to be a big mistake.

Unless…

There’s gotta be a very good, and perhaps surprising, reason for him to attend this. I think we need to know more, before any conclusions are hastily jumped to.

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:03 PM

I just have to keep thinking to myself, “He sucks, but the others are worse. He sucks, but the others are worse.”

amerpundit on May 5, 2008 at 3:48 PM

And that is the problem. If you have to convince yourself of that, WHY would you vote for him?

MadisonConservative on May 5, 2008 at 4:03 PM

Pandering to cheating, law breaking criminals.

saiga on May 5, 2008 at 3:55 PM

Birds of a feather…

(remember the Keating Five)

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:05 PM

Ugh.

StephC on May 5, 2008 at 4:06 PM

Que lastima! No mas, por favor!

CP on May 5, 2008 at 4:07 PM

I love this. I absolutely LOVE this.

A vote for Schmuck was a vote for Juan McCain. You dopes get what you deserve.

ENJOY!!!

Roger Waters on May 5, 2008 at 4:08 PM

Anyone else having problems with HA?

upinak on May 5, 2008 at 4:09 PM

How did we get stuck with this man?
Maxx on May 5, 2008 at 3:55 PM

Possibility #1: Knucklehead republicans who voted for McCain in the primaries who have left us with him as our nominee.

Possibility #2: The left’s version of ‘Operation Chaos,’ democrats voting for the worst choice in the republican primaries so we don’t have a conservative candidate to go against Obama or Hillary.

Possibility #3: A combination of the first 2. My guess would be 70-30.

wise_man on May 5, 2008 at 4:09 PM

Does anyone know how to say “my friends” in spanish?

I’ll reserve judgment until he has spoken.

ninjapirate on May 5, 2008 at 4:09 PM

Yes we McCain can!

mred on May 5, 2008 at 4:10 PM

Republican primary voters are the dumbest people in the world - G. W. Bush, John McCain, Bob Dole. Maybe a Sister Souljah moment? Nah!

Hilts on May 5, 2008 at 4:10 PM

Roger Waters on May 5, 2008 at 4:08 PM

As always, you are a sick puppy.

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:10 PM

I just have to keep thinking to myself, “He sucks, but the others are worse. He sucks, but the others are worse.”
amerpundit on May 5, 2008 at 3:48 PM

And that is the problem. If you have to convince yourself of that, WHY would you vote for him?
MadisonConservative on May 5, 2008 at 4:03 PM

Good Lord.

wise_man on May 5, 2008 at 4:11 PM

It doesnt really matter because Red Pill already told us that God told him that Schmuckabee with be the next POTUS…so this is all academic anyway.

Oh wait, Schmuck was even worse on the issue of illegal immigration. oops. I am starting to wish God hadnt told Red Pill that.

Roger Waters on May 5, 2008 at 4:11 PM

I propose that NC Republican Primary voters vote for the candidate who committed in writing to complete construction of fences on both borders by July 1, 2010.

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Yes, that was a beautiful pander of his. After granting children of illegal aliens benefits, as well as saying opposition to “comprehensive” reform is partially driven by racism, he agreed to build the fence.

Such a tough, pro-enforcement guy.

Gov. Mike Huckabee on Thursday heaped criticism upon immigration legislation in the Arkansas Legislature, describing it as “inflammatory . . . race-baiting and demagoguery.” He also challenged the Christian values of its main sponsor.

Huckabee said the bill, seeking to forbid public assistance and voting rights to undocumented immigrants, “inflames those who are racist and bigots and makes them think there’s a real problem. But there’s not.”

amerpundit on May 5, 2008 at 4:11 PM

If Kos is right about Texas being in play, the sky’s the limit!

.
Now, that’s funny! Kos should be writing for Johnny Carson - Texas will be red by 10% or more in November, across the board.

Think_b4_speaking on May 5, 2008 at 4:11 PM

wise_man on May 5, 2008 at 4:09 PM

I will give you that, since I didn’t vote for him. But what else does a conservative have…. you have McCain.. or the other one… and honestly I would rather have McCain over the other one(s).

upinak on May 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM

Roger Waters on May 5, 2008 at 4:08 PM

Dude, you can blame it on whomever you want, but all the candidates were bad. From sanctuary mayor to Socialized medicine governor there wasn’t a good choice. So you hate Huckabee, great! But it wasn’t his ‘fault’ that the rest of the candidates were so bad.

McCain won’t win anyway so it is a moot point about ‘getting what you deserve’. I’m hoping for a third party conservative candidate. It is time to start a conservative party because the R party certainly is not the conservative party if it ever was.

ThackerAgency on May 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM

Hey RedPill, do you think you could ask God to change his mind about Schmuck being the next POTUS?

That would be great. Thanks.

Roger Waters on May 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM

Good Lord.

wise_man on May 5, 2008 at 4:11 PM

Dare you to say something substantive instead of being the typical jackass you are.

Not expecting much.

MadisonConservative on May 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM

Well, instead of the usual McCain-derangement, perhaps y’all shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions about this?

Like him or not, McCain IS the GOP nominee. This is no time to attack him. Unless you’d be happier with President Obama, or another Clinton term.

*sigh*

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM

And that is the problem. If you have to convince yourself of that, WHY would you vote for him?

MadisonConservative on May 5, 2008 at 4:03 PM

There’s a difference between convincing and reminding. I don’t have to convince myself that McCain would be better than Barack “Let’s Have Tea With Terrorists!” Obama. I only have to remind myself, at moments like these, that the alternative is worse than McC.

amerpundit on May 5, 2008 at 4:14 PM

How did we get stuck with this man?

Maxx on May 5, 2008 at 3:55 PM

My guess is how republicans dragged their asses in unifying around a Rommney or Rudy.

Blame yourselves, accept it and campaign against him. Try again in 2012.

ThePrez on May 5, 2008 at 4:14 PM

There’s gotta be a very good, and perhaps surprising, reason for him to attend this. I think we need to know more, before any conclusions are hastily jumped to.

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:03 PM

Dream on. There is nothing new here - McAmnesty has been a keynote speaker for La Raza before. This is wholly consistent with his open border views.

Please get over thinking that McCain is crafty enough to have an ulterior motive behind pandering to La Raza. He doesn’t. It is what it has always been.

Redhead Infidel on May 5, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Once again, McCain is telling the base of the Repub party to take a hike.

thatcher on May 5, 2008 at 4:14 PM

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:03 PM

You’re an honest and fair guy.

I have to say I really expected him to use this time, when the dems. are tearing themselves apart, to unite his base (at least as much as possible). I fully expected my frustration with him to begin to melt away as I listened to week after week of great campaign promises that sound conservative to the core. He hasn’t done this however. And this…well, it doesn’t look like he’s even going to try.

Weight of Glory on May 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM

Don’t make me cry… stop it! Another Clinton and 10 to 1 we all go into a depression… way beyond a recession!

upinak on May 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM

There’s gotta be a very good, and perhaps surprising, reason for him to attend this. I think we need to know more, before any conclusions are hastily jumped to.

Given McCain’s history, it’s not jumping to conclusions to be outraged by this. Your generosity is sorely misplaced with this candidate. I think rather than try to convince others that there might be a good reason; just go ahead and admit to yourself that you like McCain so much, there isn’t anything he can do that will change your mind.
I truly wish we could dump McCain, and have a chance at a real candidate, however to the person suggesting Huckaphony…umm..this party is already burning itself up by nominating someone that pretty much holds the base in contempt; nominating a Bill Clinton lite, mealy mouthed wannabe like Huckabee with his penchant for saying really stupid things, would be pouring gasoline over ourselves. McCain has a chance to win because the Democrats are running such an incompetent campaign; despite how bad they are, I don’t think Huckabee could beat either one, no matter how badly Hillary and Obama rip each other.
This is exactly what I predicted McCain would do, post election. The fact that he is pulling this before the general even begins…you guys that are going to vote for him, I would be VERY afraid of what he’s going to pull once he’s safe in office. It’s probably going to be even worse than I thought.

austinnelly on May 5, 2008 at 4:16 PM

“No group owns being an American. Nobody owns this”. - McCain’s sycophantic sidekick

1. America is group entitled to “being American”
2. Subdividing groups of Americans is antithetical to the concept of being American
3. American individuals are entitled to own “being an American”
4. Foreigners who immigrate legally and with allegiance are welcome to become American.

There’s gotta be a very good, and perhaps surprising, reason for him to attend this. I think we need to know more, before any conclusions are hastily jumped to.

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:03 PM

I will hold my conclusions for when I hear what he had to say. I think it’s reasonable to wait and see if he demonstrates some leadership on behalf of America, instead of just pandering to an aggressive, identity-based political group.

RushBaby on May 5, 2008 at 4:16 PM

Where’s MB4? This thread needs the kind of Spanish variations/permutations of McCain’s name that only he can provide.

Weight of Glory on May 5, 2008 at 4:17 PM

wise_man on May 5, 2008 at 4:09 PM

1) The “Religious Right” was split three ways among Romney, Huckabee, and Thompson.

2) Yes, Democrats voting in the Florida Republican Primary had a lot to do with McCain winning there.

3) I still wonder if the Washington state results were legitimate. It doesn’t pass the smell test in my opinion. I also question if McCain really had “1191″ after Texas because he waited until his Mississippi win (after Huckabee had left the race) to display the “1191″ sign.

4) Don’t give up hope for a brokered convention…it may seem crazy to think it’s possible, but I believe it’s not. Stranger things have happened.

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:17 PM

… needless to say McCain’s feet will have to be held to the fire on this subject regularly to keep him from indulging his natural, jerky pro-amnesty tendencies.

Held to the fire by whom? By those of us who couldn’t defeat him in the primary? He’s quaking, I’m sure.

paul006 on May 5, 2008 at 4:18 PM

You know what no one has talked about during this election cycle?

Race.

It’s refreshing that John will address that topic so courageously and altruistically. I do hope he mentions lettuce.

Nichevo on May 5, 2008 at 4:18 PM

There’s a difference between convincing and reminding. I don’t have to convince myself that McCain would be better than Barack “Let’s Have Tea With Terrorists!” Obama. I only have to remind myself, at moments like these, that the alternative is worse than McC.
amerpundit on May 5, 2008 at 4:14 PM

You can tell some people these wise words, backed by logic and reason all day, and just like attempting to lead the proverbial horse to water, the damn stubborn thing just won’t take a drink.

wise_man on May 5, 2008 at 4:19 PM

Don’t make me cry… stop it! Another Clinton and 10 to 1 we all go into a depression… way beyond a recession!

upinak on May 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM

Not to jump to a Clinton’s defense, but a president does not have near enough power to throw us into a depression, despite the fact that the MSM has been blaming Bush for every economic hiccup for the last 8 years.

MadisonConservative on May 5, 2008 at 4:19 PM

I don’t have to convince myself that McCain would be better than Barack “Let’s Have Tea With Terrorists!” Obama.

Considering that McCain thinks America is the evil nation that tortures these terrorists. Considering that McCain thinks that the terrorists in guantanamo bay should have American citizen-like constitutional protection for the mere fact that they hate America (that’s why they are in Guantanamo in the first place). To the concept that terrorists can come across the southern border with the ease of an illegal Mexican migrant farmer. . . . I don’t see how you can say with certainty that McCain IS better than Obama. Of course that depends on what the definition of IS is.

ThackerAgency on May 5, 2008 at 4:19 PM

It’s refreshing that John will address that topic so courageously and altruistically. I do hope he mentions lettuce.

Nichevo on May 5, 2008 at 4:18 PM

heh.

lettuce.

Redhead Infidel on May 5, 2008 at 4:21 PM

How did we get stuck with this man?
Maxx on May 5, 2008 at 3:55 PM

My guess is how republicans dragged their asses in unifying around a Rommney or Rudy.
Blame yourselves, accept it and campaign against him. Try again in 2012.
ThePrez on May 5, 2008 at 4:14 PM

And your prize will be “President Obama.” Hurray for you. That’s not acceptable for me, because I don’t want a democrat to control this country, and possibly nominate the next open slot for Supreme Court Justice, among others.

wise_man on May 5, 2008 at 4:21 PM

I was told I’d have to hold my nose and vote for Juan, but the stench is overwhelming and my eyes are starting to water. If I rush, I figure I could get an appointment with my doctor come November.

Zorg on May 5, 2008 at 4:22 PM

There’s a difference between convincing and reminding. I don’t have to convince myself that McCain would be better than Barack “Let’s Have Tea With Terrorists!” Obama. I only have to remind myself, at moments like these, that the alternative is worse than McC.

amerpundit on May 5, 2008 at 4:14 PM

There is something fundamentally wrong when people are voting against a candidate so bad, that they choose to vote for a candidate that they would never, in any regular circumstances, vote for otherwise.

MadisonConservative on May 5, 2008 at 4:23 PM

McCain will choose Supreme Court justices based on what the majority in congress wants. If the D’s are in congress, expect a D justice no matter what McCain thinks. He doesn’t even care. . . he just wants to ‘reach across the aisle’. McCain’s justice picks won’t be any less liberal than either Obama or Clinton.

ThackerAgency on May 5, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Like him or not, McCain IS the GOP nominee.

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM

No, McCain is not the GOP nominee. He is the PRESUMPTIVE nominee.

We won’t have a nominee until the convention.

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:23 PM

I don’t see how you can say with certainty that McCain IS better than Obama. Of course that depends on what the definition of IS is.

ThackerAgency on May 5, 2008 at 4:19 PM

Considering McCain supports a tough stance on Iran.
Considering McCain doesn’t favor surrender in Iraq.
Considering McCain doesn’t want to unconditionally sit down for tea with every terrorist and dictator that comes knocking.

amerpundit on May 5, 2008 at 4:24 PM

I just have to keep thinking to myself, “He sucks, but the others are worse. He sucks, but the others are worse.”

I’m having a hard time convincing myself of that.

flenser on May 5, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Rigga-fratta-ragga-rigga

Well it begins(continues)…..we have no chance at the latino vote so why not make it so we have no chance at the right vote either! Take pair of threes you have, John, really isn’t a raising hand.

Limerick on May 5, 2008 at 4:25 PM

Considering McCain supports a tough stance on Iran.
Considering McCain doesn’t favor surrender in Iraq.
Considering McCain doesn’t want to unconditionally sit down for tea with every terrorist and dictator that comes knocking.

Well, America may be screwed, but at least we’ll go down fighting Arab terrorists.

I don’t find that comforting.

flenser on May 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM

This only makes sense if this turns out to be his sista soldier moment.

Otherwise, if he’s simply whoring around because it feels good, then he should not be surprised when his base tells him not to come home after he’s done.

moxie_neanderthal on May 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM

Oh geez stop pissing and moaning. Call your representatives and remind them that John McCain can lay in front of a bulldozer if he wants to, but they better be on the right side of the issue.

Strategy: Take no action at the federal level and watch the states take care of the problem. The longer it plays out the harder it will be for the media to ignore the effect of Arizona and Oklahoma’s and now Missippi’s enforcement. Arizona’s economy is doing just fine and Oklahoma’s unemployment rate has recently dropped.

We are headed in the right direction.

Theworldisnotenough on May 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM

MadisonConservative on May 5, 2008 at 4:19 PM

Not that I care, but I was also in the Military at the time of the “First” Clinton mistake. And now that I am going back in… could I be wondering if I am going to be able to get parts for anything in the military? Will I have to worry about where I sleep… lets face it that barracks video was nothing compared to what could be worse.

I am not going to blame it on Bill for everything… but I do remember, and wonder if it will be worse.

upinak on May 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM

I wonder just how far cranky old bastard will go in pandering. He runs a real risk of alienating the very tepid support he has from the conservative side of his own party so if he is as full of the “only racists are against amnesty” crap he pulled last year then he had damned be pretty sure he can draw votes away from the left because the right will stay home in protest.

And for all you useless idiots who foisted this candidate on the party- I’m still angry that you were so selfish and myopic that you have caused this situation where the party is forced to nominate a Democrat-lite who hates social conservatives and has even nastier things to say to those of us who are evangelical conservatives.

highhopes on May 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM

Well, America may be screwed, but at least we’ll go down fighting Arab terrorists.

I don’t find that comforting.

flenser on May 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM

Why is America “going down”?

amerpundit on May 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM

I will hold my conclusions for when I hear what he had to say. I think it’s reasonable to wait and see if he demonstrates some leadership on behalf of America, instead of just pandering to an aggressive, identity-based political group.

RushBaby on May 5, 2008 at 4:16 PM

Exactly. Let’s hope he sets the record straight. But he hasn’t spoken to them yet.

I have to say I really expected him to use this time, when the dems. are tearing themselves apart, to unite his base (at least as much as possible). I fully expected my frustration with him to begin to melt away as I listened to week after week of great campaign promises that sound conservative to the core. He hasn’t done this however. And this…well, it doesn’t look like he’s even going to try.

Weight of Glory on May 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM

I mean, McCain isn’t going to simply say what he thinks the conservatives (and yes, I’m one) want to hear. He hardly makes empty, feel-good talk like Obama. McCain’s a “what you see is what you get” guy.

******

There’s just too much over-reaction to this whole “amnesty” thing. First off, McCain isn’t pro-amnesty. He’s just a realist on the issue. And he said he’ll secure the border.

There’s more important things to worry about than migrant worker’s legal status. Not saying legal status isn’t important, but c’mon…

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:30 PM

How any conservative can vote for this traitor is totally beyond my comprehension.

If anyone is still loyal to the GOP, then I suggest serving up a healthy dose of “tough love” this November by not voting for McCain (you don’t have to vote dem either, just vote the under ticket). Anything short of this will leave America without a true conservative party. As voting for McCain is a stamp of approval to the party’s move to the left.

voiceofreason on May 5, 2008 at 4:32 PM

There’s just too much over-reaction to this whole “amnesty” thing. First off, McCain isn’t pro-amnesty. He’s just a realist on the issue. And he said he’ll secure the border.

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:30 PM

I believe his exact words were, “I think the fence is least effective. But I’ll build the godamn fence if they want it”. Such an enthusiastic supporter of enforcement he is.

amerpundit on May 5, 2008 at 4:32 PM

austinnelly on May 5, 2008 at 4:16 PM

Huck went up against the Arkansas Democratic machine four times and won each time.

If Hillary manages to come out with the Democrat nomination, the only Republican she fears in the general election is Mike Huckabee. Hillary is prepared to defeat John McCain. She was able to collect dirt on him by abusing her access to the FBI and IRS. Defeating McCain was always part of her 2008 Presidential game plan. What she didn’t expect was having to battle her hand-picked VP running-mate (Obama) for the top slot.

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:32 PM

How did we get stuck with this man?

A stupid primary system. I believe he won the nomination with about 40% of the votes cast. The “winner-takes-all” rules in states like NY and NJ were a big part of it. Those rules were only put in place last year in an effort to help Giuliani.

But at the end of the day the buck stops with the voters. They screwed up, and they’ll pay the price.

flenser on May 5, 2008 at 4:33 PM

One thing.

I notice nobody has brought this up yet when talking about the horror of Obama or Clinton in the Oval Office…what about Congress ‘08 and ‘10? Do you think the Democrats are going to maintain Congressional control at this rate? Their approval ratings are in the toilet, and we could well see a new Contract with America. That Congress would be very powerful at fighting Clinton or Obama.

MadisonConservative on May 5, 2008 at 4:33 PM

Bah.

Earlier in the primaries I vowed that I wouldn’t vote for McCain were he the nominee.

Then he locked up the nomination, and as we learned how far left Obama is I was considering holding my nose for McCain and trying to drink away the shame afterwards.

Now he goes out of his way to piss in our Corn Flakes and I’m once again inclined to vote None Of The Above.

Hollowpoint on May 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM

First off, McCain isn’t pro-amnesty. He’s just a realist on the issue.

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:30 PM

Tell me I misquoted you. Please.

MadisonConservative on May 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM

No, McCain is not the GOP nominee. He is the PRESUMPTIVE nominee.

We won’t have a nominee until the convention.

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Well, I was going to put in “presumptive”, but it would take Divine intervention for anyone else to get the nod. The convention just makes the inevitable official.

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM

ThackerAgency on May 5, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Then you obviously seriously misunderstand Obama and Clinton and their views regarding the Supreme Court, judicial activism and constitutional interpretation.

I’d rather a Kennedy or an O’Connor over another Ginsberg.

And there’s a chance McCain will only nominate strict constructionists. Maybe it’s a slim chance, but it’s better than no chance at all. SCOTUS appointments and Iraq are enough reason for me to vote McCain.

exlibris on May 5, 2008 at 4:35 PM

. First off, McCain isn’t pro-amnesty.

That’s a bit like saying Hitler isn’t pro killing of Jews. If McLiar isn’t pro-amnesty then the term has no meaning.

flenser on May 5, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Well, instead of the usual McCain-derangement, perhaps y’all shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions about this?

Like him or not, McCain IS the GOP nominee. This is no time to attack him. Unless you’d be happier with President Obama, or another Clinton term.

*sigh*

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM

You’re point assumes we can win, and from all indications most of our battles are already lost. We have lost big government, liberals control the education system….etc, so if we have lost most fronts does that mean we’re wrong? I still believe that conservative views are correct we have simply been out maneuvered, but what does that leave for us? We have only one option left, and that is to allow(like we can stop them) the liberal agendas to take their course. I believe we will be proven right in the end, and when that happens we rebuild, so no I see no point in voting for McCain.

DFCtomm on May 5, 2008 at 4:35 PM

I don’t know why the democrats are upset about the election.

THis is a no lose year for them.

EJDolbow on May 5, 2008 at 4:35 PM

If Hillary manages to come out with the Democrat nomination, the only Republican she fears in the general election is Mike Huckabee. Hillary is prepared to defeat John McCain.

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Bwahahahahaha! Oh, you’re good. Have you applied at Cracked yet? You think she wouldn’t be able to defeat Mr. “Woman Should Submit to their Husbands”?

amerpundit on May 5, 2008 at 4:36 PM

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:30 PM

Now, now, I just meant in so far as every politician panders to his base in an election cycle. McCain is doing the opposite in a time when the Dems. are killing themselves. That’s all I meant.

Weight of Glory on May 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Then you obviously seriously misunderstand Obama and Clinton and their views regarding the Supreme Court, judicial activism and constitutional interpretation.

You overestimate the importance of these things. Once McCain gives the Dems thirty million new voters, you’ll see Hillary Clinton as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

flenser on May 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM

EJDolbow on May 5, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Indeed.

Weight of Glory on May 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:05 PM

Your guy is worse than McCain on immigration issues, recent claims to the contrary. What he did, not what he said interests me more.

Dream on with you nonsense about the Huckster. We resent him more than McCain, and that should tell you a lot.

RushBaby, thank you.

Entelechy on May 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM

With all due respect to AllahPundit, MM should have made Ed Morrissey cover this story in order to make him sweat a little and make an honest man of himself.

BigD on May 5, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Juan Hernandez for Secretary of State.

Akzed on May 5, 2008 at 4:38 PM

No, McCain is not the GOP nominee. He is the PRESUMPTIVE nominee.

We won’t have a nominee until the convention.

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Well, I was going to put in “presumptive”, but it would take Divine intervention for anyone else to get the nod. The convention just makes the inevitable official.

JetBoy on May 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM

:-)

Wait and see…

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:38 PM

meant in so far as every politician panders to his base in an election cycle. McCain is doing the opposite

McCain IS pandering to his base. Conservatives ain’t it.

flenser on May 5, 2008 at 4:39 PM

I might suggest, voting for someone who is a consertivite, if such a critter exists now, for the senate and house. As it looks now, the dem’s are going to have a majority in both. My precious country has three running for Pres. Which will keep the US from going down the tubes? Boy, that is a question! I’m hoping jm will do a better job.
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letget on May 5, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Forgot, Happy Cinco de Mayo. Have some good food and margaritas, and be happy.

Entelechy on May 5, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Hollowpoint on May 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM

I feel the same way. I swore I wouldn’t vote for him after the McCain/Kennedy bill graced our minds and I held to that until he was the only one left standing. Then I told myself, well, I’ll vote for him if it comes down to it as I would never vote for a Dem, regardless of who they are.
At this point, I just don’t care anymore. Maybe that will change the closer we get but that’s how I feel now.
I can’t even believe Obama is still in it. If he were white and in the same mess, he would have been crucified and out a couple of months ago.
HRC, no freakin way.

Geronimo on May 5, 2008 at 4:39 PM

flenser on May 5, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Heh. Well, okay. You got me.

Weight of Glory on May 5, 2008 at 4:40 PM

I don’t know why the democrats are upset about the election.

THis is a no lose year for them.

EJDolbow on May 5, 2008 at 4:35 PM

George Soros is laughing right now…

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:40 PM

Your guy is worse than McCain on immigration issues, recent claims to the contrary. What he did, not what he said interests me more.

No, Huck is pretty bad but he’s not worse than McCain on amnesty. I don’t think it’s even possible to be worse than McCain an amnesty.

flenser on May 5, 2008 at 4:41 PM

McCain IS pandering to his base. Conservatives ain’t it.

flenser on May 5, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Bingo.

Redhead Infidel on May 5, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Red Pill, you sound like a paulnut, with just a different nut to root for.

Entelechy on May 5, 2008 at 4:42 PM

But wait! Didn’t McCain say that he “Got it” when it came to Illegal Immigration? I’m soooo confused!
/sarc

Bah. All this means is that I’m one step closer to voting Conservative and Republican for all the lower seats, and writing in Mickey Mouse for POTUS. McVain is doing everything he can to lose my vote. I just don’t get him.

wearyman on May 5, 2008 at 4:44 PM

OK, I dislike McCain’s policies in many cases. I was a big Fred Thompson guy. However, I hope he is able to “pander” enough votes to get elected. I love Fred, but I think McCain probably has a better chance in the general because he is less than a conservative icon. Let McCain do what McCain does, and vote for him in the general anyway. Or, stay home and help a socialist get elected.

Buford Gooch on May 5, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Red Pill on May 5, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Oh, just shut the hell up you moronic one-trick-pony. It’s over. Barring some extreme misfortune to McCain, he will be the nominee. Even if something tragic were to happen (death, serious health issue) to McCain before the convention that prevented him from continuing they’re not going to pick a loser like Huckster with a record even worse than McCain’s.

Take it to whatever mouth-breather pro-Huckster site you came from and let the non-retarded people talk.

Hollowpoint on May 5, 2008 at 4:44 PM

With all due respect to AllahPundit, MM should have made Ed Morrissey cover this story in order to make him sweat a little and make an honest man of himself.

BigD on May 5, 2008 at 4:38 PM

What the heck do you mean by that?

upinak on May 5, 2008 at 4:44 PM

I’ll vote for Ralph Nader for President over any of these three turkys. Blech.

flenser on May 5, 2008 at 4:44 PM

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